IRC log for #koha, 2008-08-30

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Time S Nick Message
12:09 danny hello #koha
12:58 atz_ kwak: you can use MarcEdit
13:09 gmcharlt greetings
13:12 atz_ kwak: to put all items in one branch, you could just use command-line mysql: update items set homebranch="my_branchcode_here"
13:13 atz_ that would change every item in the table
13:13 paul hello koha world. I'm back from vacation !
13:13 atz_ greets paul
13:15 gmcharlt hi paul - have a good vacation?
13:15 kados welcome back paul
13:52 rhcl at 17:08 chris said "some small features, or low barrier to entry bugs i can convince ppl to hack on". Actually, we (the two of us here at Rolling Hills Library) are kinda looking for a low-priority project like this to work on.
13:54 gmcharlt rhcl: good idea.  if you need help picking something to start with, are there any small pain points in Koha that you'd like to fix in your own Koha installation?
13:56 rhcl I don't know that we are aware of anything that's a specific problem for us yet. We are still mostly just "playing" with Koha in case our current ILS vendor goes south someday.
13:57 rhcl We will probably start using the serials module for real sometime soon, since we don't have that now, but if we ever do completely migrate we'll definitely get a support contract for Koha.
14:00 owen rhcl, you could always browse Bugzilla for stuff to work on :)
14:01 rhcl Yea, we've looked that over a couple of times. When we really do pick something out I may select 2-3 items to work on and then ask for suggestions before we begin.
14:02 gmcharlt sounds good
14:03 rhcl But for today, there's 18 registry settings I have to make, I want to install and test timetrex, I need to get started on Greenstone for my MAS project, and we have one videocamera that's kaput.
14:14 hdl owen : have you ever uesd treeview module in jquery ?
14:14 hdl s/uesd/used/
14:15 owen No I haven't
14:16 gmcharlt hdl: I have - used for the granular permissions tree
14:18 hdl So it would be ok to use it in acquisitions.
14:18 gmcharlt hdl: yep, the plugin is already in the Koha source tree
14:18 owen /lib/jquery/plugins/jquery.treeview.pack
14:19 hdl would add some hierarchy in budgets.
14:32 acmoore owen++ # Cleans up all my messes and that darned Australian spelling
14:34 acmoore I thought the kiwis had different spelling than that anyway. I guess they use 'ou' and 's' and the other British, Aussie stuff, too.
14:38 acmoore I still don't understand IndependantBranches, though!
14:48 danny i am always amazed how many foreign language hits i get when doing searches on the koha wiki
14:49 danny so many Ukrainian
14:50 danny am I missing a way to limit it to english?
14:54 ryan i don't know of one.  i think plone will offer some benefits there.
14:54 danny ok
15:59 pianohacker hdl: around?
16:09 hdl pianohacker: yes.
16:10 pianohacker Are you in bugzilla? I'd like to send[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2516 to ya
16:13 hdl no problem.
16:15 pianohacker k.
16:22 hdl gmcharlt: Is there anyone pushing patches from 3.1 to 3.0
16:22 hdl ?
16:22 gmcharlt hdl: not currently
16:22 gmcharlt hdl: kados or I would be willing to do some initial pushing
16:23 hdl ryan: posted a patch for quick push and asked for backport on 3.0.
16:23 hdl This is why I asked.
16:24 hdl And since I was willing to contribute on that, i asked.
16:29 gmcharlt hdl: we'll get something arranged soon
16:30 hdl should there be a vote ?
16:54 Kyle hey all.
16:55 acmoore hi Kyle
16:56 Kyle I just rolled a unconfigured koha3 vmware appliance. Any idea how I get it onto
16:57 gmcharlt how big is it?
16:57 gmcharlt upload as a contrib?
16:58 Kyle it's 741.1 MB. Kados mentioned puting on, but we decided to wait until 3.0 was out before putting one up.
17:01 gmcharlt Kyle: send me a URL to grab it from, and I'll make sure it gets put up on the downloads site
17:01 Kyle will do. brb.
17:59 Kyle gmcharlt: Here's the link :[…]
18:00 Kyle I suppose we should put Zebra in the filename, so we can also have a NoZebra version too.
18:00 Kyle let me change the file name.
18:01 Kyle new link :[…]
18:19 gmcharlt Kyle: retrieving file now
18:20 atz Kyle: everybody should have zebra... it they want to run nozebra they can toggle it off, but it's not worth a separate VM imho
19:08 danny ok before I send this out as an rfc to koha-devel, has anyone talked about adding any type of advanced patron search to koha?
19:08 danny for example, to make it possible to search on fields like email, address, phone number
19:14 owen I've wished for it, danny. Does that count?
19:15 danny hehe
19:15 danny good enough for me, owen
19:15 gmcharlt go for it, danny
20:01 pianohacker Is circ/ supposed to work?
20:05 owen Naw, most of those reports are just for show.
20:05 atz lo
20:05 pianohacker Eh.
20:06 owen pianohacker: it's working for me in some fashion, at least
20:06 pianohacker koha libraries: what do you use to find out what needs pulled?
20:07 atz pianohacker: galens hold reports, i think
20:12 pianohacker atz: the stow extensions on
20:12 atz i think that's the most current, where available
20:36 Moonstorm hi.  does anybody know what contributions have been made by ?  I understand they did some heavy development on koha for thier own use
20:38 owen Moonstorm: I'm not sure of the details, but I didn't think it was "heavy"
20:38 atz Moonstorm: a lot of it is still in progress, i think
20:38 owen okay, atz, am I wrong?
20:39 atz i'd have to check our project DB
20:39 atz or maybe I'm confusing with some of the other KS consortia we support now...
20:40 owen Yeah, atz doesn't even know how many houses he has
20:40 Moonstorm er, wrong library.
20:41 Moonstorm - I was thinking of this one.  I understand they hired a programming group out of Oregon to make some changes
20:41 chris yeah looking at the git log, i dont see any patches
20:41 chris ditto for ckls :)
20:42 chris i see a couple from howard county tho
20:42 chris morning all :)
20:42 pianohacker Good morning
20:42 Moonstorm hrm.  any from Oregon?
20:43 atz[…]?p=Koha;a=summary
20:43 atz all regular stuff in the main repo
20:44 acmoore I guess it's possible they made a bunch of local modifications and didn't submit them.
20:45 Moonstorm ok.  i'll poke around and see.  i'm curious
20:47 Moonstorm so, is this channel a users or a developer channel?
20:47 acmoore a little of both.
20:48 acmoore mainly developers, though, it seems. Some libraries have folks that drop in, especially when they're getting started.
20:49 atz yeah, they want to do big things
20:50 atz very cool library system
20:52 chris *nod*
20:52 chris ohh long weekend for you guys eh
20:53 pianohacker I wonder how we're going to implement fast patron search for libraries that have as many borrowers as mine has bibs (~15000)
20:54 pianohacker Hopefully we can avoid Zebra and its endless indexing pain
20:55 chris yeah i think we could do that in sql
20:55 chris its fairly structured data, and much less mad than marc ;)
20:56 Moonstorm gramps-project has some type of database lookup that is amazingly fast.  they do genealogy
20:56 chris yeah its a pretty known problem and not jsut restricted to the library world (like marc searching) so lots of ideas we can use :)
20:57 Moonstorm they don't use sql
20:58 chris we have a db of about 600k users at work
20:58 chris postgres works fine handling it
20:58 pianohacker chris: How about MySQL? I think that port is very stalled right now
20:58 chris there is also the entire nz electoral roll, which is on a postgres cluster
20:59 chris pianohacker: cant see why not, we just use postgres more at work
20:59 pianohacker ah
20:59 pianohacker You managed to figure out the authentication side of postgres, that's fairly impressive
21:01 chris ahh, we have a couple of pg developers on staff .. that helps :)
21:01 chris ok, im on kid duty, and he has finished breakfast .. might cya later:) good weekend all
21:02 pianohacker cya
21:20 Ahmuck how does one register a nick here?
21:21 acmoore from what I can gather, it is not done.
21:27 Ahmuck ah.  works for me
21:27 Ahmuck a level of trust i suppose
21:29 rhcl Interestingly enough, you can register a nick on kohanews.
21:29 pianohacker rhcl: That's on freenode
21:29 rhcl Yea. Diff server.
21:29 pianohacker yah
21:43 Ahmuck gnite.  nice meeting ya'll
21:43 pianohacker bye
23:02 pianohacker g'night all
06:24 mason sheesh , in other linux related news...
06:24 mason[…]s-reiser-s-1.html
08:21 chris hey mason
08:22 chris hi nicomo
08:25 mason hiya chrissa
08:26 mason ive been trying out my 1st esspresso machine
08:26 chris oh yeah? working out?
08:26 mason 40 bux from TM
08:26 mason so far, so good
08:26 chris cool
08:27 mason i bumped into old friends down the road recently , and zane has an identical model
08:27 mason hes a 4 years barista
08:28 mason so i get to brain-dump his skillz to my machine ;)
08:28 chris nice
08:28 chris a lot of it is in the grind
08:28 mason yeah, so i hear
08:29 mason my stove-tops are stronger tho ;(
08:29 chris we have a machine on level 3, so ive been getting some practice
08:30 mason i think i tovetops are 4 shots
08:30 nicomo hi chris
08:30 chris coffee drinker nicomo?
08:30 mason i guess ive just adjusted to it - so doubles seem weak..
08:30 nicomo yes...
08:30 mason heya nicomo
08:31 nicomo hi mason
08:31 nicomo was away 5 days in morocco for 2 koha workshops
08:31 chris ohhh cool
08:31 nicomo it's nice to see Koha implemented in developping countries
08:31 chris did that go well?
08:31 mason niiiice
08:32 chris yep sure is
08:32 nicomo yes, I think it went down well and they'll go into production with it
08:32 nicomo probably in a couple of months
08:32 chris my friend chris (another one) is off to the cook islands next week, to upgrade their national library to koha 3
08:33 nicomo cool too: I'd love to do that workshop too, but it's a bit too far from France, I guesss :-)
08:33 chris hehe yes
08:33 chris there is quite a lot of interest in the pacific .. im hoping mason gets some work out of it :-)
08:33 nicomo indeed
08:33 mason work the Nouvelle-Calédonie angel ;)
08:34 mason angle
08:34 chris ahh paul has already been there, if i remember right
08:34 nicomo yes he has
08:34 nicomo afair
08:34 nicomo he hated it
08:34 mason pack the scuba
08:34 nicomo 24h travel
08:34 nicomo and it mostly rained
08:34 chris heh
08:34 paul hello world
08:35 nicomo but I'd certainly would pack the scuba if taht was me going over there
08:35 nicomo hi paul
08:35 chris yes, i remember the travel when russel and I came to france .. its a long way :-)
08:35 chris hi paul
08:37 chris mason: regitered here
08:37 chris ?
08:37 mason oooh, thx
08:38 mason done
08:39 mason ooh, brought to us by cafenet
08:41 chris pizza and beer from catalyst :)
08:44 mason very exciting event, a 1st for me
08:45 chris yeah should be fun
08:46 mason hey, while yall about
08:47 mason ive been thinking about a nice idea for the web-installer...
08:48 mason that might take a bit of addintional setup, but would be useful to the project in general
08:49 chris whats the idea?
08:49 mason the idea is an option in the web-installer that send a koha-registration form back to a server somewhere
08:50 mason and we start geting some usage stats
08:50 paul I think this option should be in koha itself too. Because someone installing just for testing may not want to answer during tests.
08:50 chris *nod*
08:51 mason with other important stats on OS usage, locations etc...
08:51 chris i like that idea
08:51 paul then, when going to production, he may want to answer
08:51 chris as part of the about section
08:51 mason yes, good idea
08:52 chris it could use the info thats already there, to populate most of it
08:52 mason yep
08:52 mason IP, host.domain etc
08:52 mason theres some location info right there....
08:53 chris yep
08:53 chris plus we have all the stats about os, versions of software
08:53 mason would be good , for people trying to start local usergroups
08:53 mason sure
08:54 mason that info alone would be veery useful
08:54 chris as long as its totally voluntary, i think its a great idea
08:55 mason yes, agreed
08:57 nicomo ++ for all of the above: it's often asked about by libraries looking at Koha
08:58 mason we could even get (with admins permission, of course) stats on cpu/ram/disk info
08:58 mason and bib and item totals
08:59 chris the bib and item totals would be very interesting
09:01 mason an idea that will get discussed a bit before it happens... while we agree on the best method
09:02 chris yep
09:02 mason but i think most will agree it could be work the small amount of effort
09:04 chris yep
09:04 mason as nic says: libraries interested in koha *always* ask about usage/deployment stats
09:05 chris yep, they sure do
09:05 mason and we always say "umm, lots more than we know of"
09:10 chris yeah, i find new ones on google everytime i look

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