| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 14:11 |
|
paul |
hello world. |
| 14:11 |
|
paul |
is there someone around that can answer a few questions about tools/manage-marc-import.pl and tools/stage-marc-importe.pl ? |
| 14:13 |
|
owen |
Hi paul. Not me :) |
| 14:14 |
|
paul |
hi owen |
| 14:16 |
|
atz |
owen: i've got AJAX for tagging "on list" working with the "Add Tag" buttons... |
| 14:16 |
|
atz |
... but not when the user hits enter |
| 14:16 |
|
atz |
(which submits the larger cart/bookbag form) |
| 14:16 |
|
atz |
any ideas for a workaround? |
| 14:17 |
|
owen |
should I be able to see that in my install? |
| 14:17 |
|
atz |
owen: probably not yet |
| 15:04 |
|
paul |
owen around ? |
| 15:05 |
|
paul |
(login/passwd : abel/abel), page : http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]endingreserves.pl |
| 15:06 |
|
paul |
the order-able columns items are almost-white on white with blue.css. Can you tell me the name of the css property to change ? |
| 15:09 |
|
paul |
gotcha. it's th.header |
| 15:09 |
|
owen |
I'm too slow! :) Yeah, that was a new css property introduced by the tablesorter js |
| 15:23 |
|
gmcharlt |
paul: questions about stage and mange marc-import? |
| 15:23 |
|
paul |
yes, ('morning gmcharlt |
| 15:24 |
|
gmcharlt |
good afternoon |
| 15:24 |
|
paul |
does it store only in reservoir (marc_breeding) table or can it be used to import directly in DB ? |
| 15:25 |
|
gmcharlt |
in stores in reservoir (note that the marc_breeding table was renamed to Import_batches and friends), doesn't import directly until you commit via the manage-marc-import.pl tool |
| 15:26 |
|
paul |
how do you 'import' ? |
| 15:27 |
|
gmcharlt |
it's two step process - stage, then go to batch management and commit |
| 15:27 |
|
paul |
stage-marc-import is the 1st step |
| 15:27 |
|
paul |
but how do I start the 2nd step ? |
| 15:28 |
|
gmcharlt |
when stage complets, will give you a link to the management page for that batch, or you can access it via the 'manage marc batches' link |
| 15:28 |
|
hdl |
you merely click on import |
| 15:28 |
|
paul |
mmm... there is a diff between en & french versions... |
| 15:29 |
|
paul |
no, it's more a terminology problem I think |
| 15:29 |
|
paul |
the button "Complete import" will transfer from reservoir to catalogue right ? |
| 15:30 |
|
paul |
one of our client thought it was to validate the staging... |
| 15:30 |
|
paul |
the button should be written differently I think. Something like "import to catalogue" |
| 15:31 |
|
paul |
a file with status "staged" is in the reservoir, while a batch with a status "imported" is now in the catalogue, right ? |
| 15:32 |
|
hdl |
I had the same surprise in la Trappe. |
| 15:32 |
|
gmcharlt |
yes (but note that when batch is imported, copies of bib are still left in reservoir) |
| 15:32 |
|
paul |
shame on me to have never tested that. A customer entered something like 200 biblios in the catalogue without planning to do it... |
| 15:32 |
|
hdl |
yes and this is very handy |
| 15:32 |
|
hdl |
thx gmcharlt |
| 15:32 |
|
paul |
gmcharlt: do you agree to spell the button differently ? |
| 15:34 |
|
hdl |
+ will be good to be able to make a list to import into catalogue in 3.10 :D |
| 15:34 |
|
gmcharlt |
paul: more like I don't disagree - i.e., it's fine with me |
| 15:34 |
|
gmcharlt |
paul: do you see any ambiguity in the reverse operation ('Undo import')? |
| 15:34 |
|
paul |
ok, will do it immediatly |
| 15:34 |
|
paul |
where is the "undo import button"... |
| 15:35 |
|
gmcharlt |
it shows up after you completd an import of a batch |
| 15:35 |
|
paul |
oh, I see ! |
| 15:35 |
|
gmcharlt |
if you go back to the same batch, you now have an option to undo it |
| 15:35 |
|
paul |
remove it from the catalogue ? |
| 15:35 |
|
gmcharlt |
yes |
| 15:36 |
|
paul |
how does it works (ie : how does it know the biblionumber ?) |
| 15:36 |
|
gmcharlt |
when each record is imported, the ID of bib that is added (or replaced) is attached to the staged record via import_biblios |
| 15:36 |
|
gmcharlt |
also stores copy of previous state of a replaced bib |
| 15:37 |
|
paul |
field matched_biblionumber ? |
| 15:37 |
|
gmcharlt |
undo restores original bib (or deletes it if was added) and deletes any items added by the op (keeping other items that were not directly part of that import operation) |
| 15:37 |
|
gmcharlt |
yes, matched_biblionumber |
| 15:38 |
|
paul |
wow, that's really great, wonderful, powerfull, ... |
| 15:38 |
|
paul |
it will just lack the possibility to do some local changes on the item and that would be the handiest tool we could have... |
| 15:38 |
|
paul |
(something like changing the homebranch/holdingbranch) |
| 15:39 |
|
gmcharlt |
and due to have more added to it in post-3.0, including |
| 15:39 |
|
gmcharlt |
1. ability to get report of authority heading issues in staged batch |
| 15:40 |
|
gmcharlt |
2. possibly ability to hook in custom routines to parse item data (so that you wouldn't need to create the 952/949/995 fields before staging the file) |
| 15:40 |
|
gmcharlt |
3. implement handling authority record loads in same manner |
| 15:42 |
|
paul |
in France, each "département" (we have 100) has a local "bibliothèque départementale de prêt", who issues large number (200+) books to local small libraries & give them thelist of books they've issued, for inclusion in local ILS. we have to write a specific script for each library to "rewrite" the items on the fly |
| 15:43 |
|
gmcharlt |
so some generalized item parsing and mapping mechanism would be useful |
| 15:44 |
|
atz |
paul: that sounds difficult |
| 15:44 |
|
paul |
atz : we could add a "plugin" system, where we could do those rewrite |
| 15:45 |
|
gmcharlt |
how much do the scripts vary - are the main differences just setting the specific branch codes for eaach library, or are there more complicated changes that vary from library to library? |
| 15:45 |
|
paul |
sometimes, the library also want some rewrite on localisation (or call number) |
| 15:47 |
|
paul |
to specify that "CD" are "1st floor", where "children's book" are "2nd floor", and "adult books" are ... |
| 15:48 |
|
hdl |
this could be handled via batch modifications of biblios |
| 16:28 |
|
owen |
paul, hdl, do you know what "without periodicity" means when specifying a serial's frequency? |
| 16:28 |
|
paul |
yes. |
| 16:29 |
|
paul |
some very specific (usually high level science) don't have a true periodicity |
| 16:29 |
|
paul |
when you subscribe to the title, you subscribe for 6 issues. |
| 16:29 |
|
paul |
which can arrive in 1 year... or 2... |
| 16:29 |
|
owen |
I see there's a choice to say that the frequency is "irregular." Does "irregular" not cover that case? |
| 16:30 |
|
paul |
in UNIMARC there are both. I can't say what's the difference... |
| 16:30 |
|
paul |
hdl, any idea ? |
| 16:30 |
|
owen |
Interesting, so it's a UNIMARC thing. I wonder if MARC has a corresponding set of descriptions... |
| 16:43 |
|
owen |
paul, am correct that serials-collection.pl might list multiple subscriptions? |
| 16:43 |
|
paul |
yes. If you have several subscription of the same title at the same branch |
| 16:44 |
|
owen |
thanks |
| 17:11 |
|
paul |
bye world. Have a good day/night depending on where you are. |
| 17:12 |
|
hdl |
irregular stands for sthg that is not "regular" but has a periodicity |
| 17:13 |
|
hdl |
owen : say it comes out on January, then in October and December for instance |
| 17:13 |
|
hdl |
it is irregular |
| 17:13 |
|
hdl |
But without periodicity is when you donot have any regularity |
| 17:13 |
|
owen |
I see: irregular implies that you /do/ know when it comes out |
| 17:13 |
|
owen |
with periodicity implies that you don't |
| 18:07 |
|
ryan |
gmcharlt: did you have a patch in the queue for import_borrowers.pl ? |
| 18:08 |
|
gmcharlt |
ryan: no. why? |
| 18:08 |
|
ryan |
i recall talking about allowing user to specify column headers for an import file |
| 18:09 |
|
gmcharlt |
right - I can put something together over weekend if needed |
