| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:11 |
|
ewwc |
a dmg file for koha on OSX would be nice |
| 12:12 |
|
kados |
ewwc: sure would ... do you know how to create one? |
| 12:12 |
|
ewwc |
learning the mac dev stuff |
| 12:13 |
|
ewwc |
will be a while tho |
| 12:13 |
|
ewwc |
<-- can't even get joha to work with instructions |
| 12:13 |
|
ewwc |
>_< |
| 12:14 |
|
ewwc |
technically everything but koha yaz and zebra is on OSX already |
| 12:14 |
|
kados |
and the perl stuff |
| 12:15 |
|
ewwc |
its not included in 5.8? |
| 12:15 |
|
kados |
not all the dependencies |
| 12:16 |
|
ewwc |
maybe something over at apple is stopping ppl from packaging it into a dmg file |
| 12:17 |
|
kados |
no ... just that koha uses some obscure perl modules |
| 12:18 |
|
ewwc |
so package all necessary perl modules into an installer pkg. Same for yaz and zebra |
| 12:18 |
|
ewwc |
then create a dmg for koha |
| 12:18 |
|
ewwc |
not as easy as it sounds |
| 12:23 |
|
ewwc |
ohhh, that's just wrong, apple is still using apache 1 |
| 12:33 |
|
owen |
*yawn* g'morning #koha. |
| 12:34 |
|
kados |
morning owen |
| 12:34 |
|
paul |
hi owen |
| 12:34 |
|
kados |
owen: I'm working on a perl version of the php hold report for NPL |
| 12:34 |
|
kados |
owen: just fyi ... |
| 12:34 |
|
owen |
do you think NPL's reserves queue script can be genericized? |
| 12:35 |
|
kados |
owen: yea, that's what I'm working on |
| 12:35 |
|
kados |
owen: and I don't think it will be too difficult |
| 12:35 |
|
owen |
that's great. |
| 12:35 |
|
ewwc |
anyone know where the error log in koha 3 beta2 is? |
| 12:35 |
|
owen |
I was just reading through you and paul's conversation about bugs yesterday. |
| 12:36 |
|
owen |
Or was that this morning? |
| 12:36 |
|
paul |
it was not yesterday, it was 3 hours ago |
| 12:36 |
|
paul |
;-) |
| 12:39 |
|
ewwc |
and how do I fix this - [fatal] lock file /var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios/zebrasrv.pid [No such file or directory] |
| 12:40 |
|
gmcharlt |
ewwc: what installation mode did you use when you installed Koha? "standard"? |
| 12:40 |
|
ewwc |
single |
| 12:40 |
|
ewwc |
should i have gone standard? |
| 12:40 |
|
gmcharlt |
no, single's fine |
| 12:40 |
|
gmcharlt |
logs would be in var/log off of the root directory you picked |
| 12:41 |
|
gmcharlt |
and what command are you using to start Zebra? |
| 12:42 |
|
ewwc |
i was following the install walkthru on koha wiki |
| 12:42 |
|
gmcharlt |
the ubuntu gutsy one? |
| 12:42 |
|
ewwc |
yes |
| 12:43 |
|
ewwc |
the last line on installing koha 3 gave me that error |
| 12:44 |
|
gmcharlt |
that line assumes 'standard'. to start Zebra in a single mode installation, do the following |
| 12:44 |
|
gmcharlt |
1. kill any running zebrasrv processes |
| 12:45 |
|
gmcharlt |
2. look for bin/koha-zebra-ct.sh (off of the base directory you picked) |
| 12:45 |
|
gmcharlt |
3. do 'koha-zebra-ctl.sh start' |
| 12:46 |
|
ewwc |
how do i check for and kill zebrasrv processes |
| 12:46 |
|
gmcharlt |
ps -ef | grep zebrasrv |
| 12:46 |
|
ewwc |
the erro log is showing a lot of errors |
| 12:49 |
|
ewwc |
latest one is - mainpage.pl: D=BEGIN failed- -compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl line 24 |
| 12:49 |
|
ewwc |
can i just rerun the koha install script or do I have to remove the previous install first |
| 12:52 |
|
gmcharlt |
ewwc: should be OK to rerun from the Makefile.PL step - do a 'make clean' first |
| 12:52 |
|
owen |
Can Koha 3 handle a delete operation on a biblio which has items attached? We can do that in dev_week, but the interface in Koha 3 wants to prevent it |
| 12:53 |
|
paul |
owen : afai, it's an interface problem, not a Koha one. |
| 12:53 |
|
kados |
owen: no ... first have to delete items, then delete the bib |
| 12:53 |
|
kados |
owen: at least that's how I remember it |
| 12:53 |
|
gmcharlt |
kados is right - it would be possible to write a delete items and bibs one-shot function, but even that shouldn't allow deletion of items that are on loan |
| 12:54 |
|
paul |
right, but it's not due to Koha internals. A biblio could be deleted with items attached at the same time. |
| 12:54 |
|
kados |
paul: don't think it can at the moment |
| 12:54 |
|
owen |
Okay, so Koha /will/ prevent me from attempting it (by turning Javascript off) |
| 12:54 |
|
paul |
imho it's correct to require deletion of items before deletion of biblios anyway. |
| 12:56 |
|
owen |
I think librarians like to be able to delete the biblio and item at the same time when they're deleting the last copy |
| 12:56 |
|
paul |
owen: ++ |
| 12:56 |
|
owen |
I think that's why we've got it in dev_week |
| 13:03 |
|
ewwc |
can we assume that if the Makefile.PL returns a prerequisite not found that we have to fetch it and reMakefilePL? |
| 13:06 |
|
gmcharlt |
ewwc: yes, you'll need to install the prereq, but you don't need to rerun Makefile.PL |
| 13:07 |
|
ewwc |
which means anything I Make without it will break the program a bit |
| 13:10 |
|
gmcharlt |
no, once you install the missing preqreqs, you can then run make - no need to redo Makefile.PL, which checks the prereqs but doesn't do anything with them per se |
| 13:12 |
|
ewwc |
technically speaking, can I install koha3 on this mac using the same instructions as the unbuntu one? |
| 13:13 |
|
gmcharlt |
ewwc: mostly. the big difference is that most of the Perl modules would have to be installed from CPAN, and are not packaged like in Debian and Ubuntu |
| 13:13 |
|
ewwc |
the ubuntu walkthru had me downloading a whole bunch of modules anyway |
| 13:30 |
|
owen |
Looks like a couple of things are consistently missing from opac-opensearch.pl: startIndex (<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="page" -->) and itemsPerPage (<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="count" -->) |
| 13:30 |
|
owen |
I'm wondering if either of those need dynamic values |
| 13:30 |
|
owen |
Wouldn't a feed normally always start at 1 and have a set number of results? |
| 13:31 |
|
atz |
I don't mind recirculating values, as long as they get checked/limited on the way in |
| 13:32 |
|
kados |
opac-opensearch.pl is deprecated |
| 13:32 |
|
owen |
I mean opac-opensearch.tmpl |
| 13:32 |
|
kados |
use opac-search.pl?format=rss2 or format=atom |
| 13:32 |
|
kados |
ahh, right |
| 13:33 |
|
kados |
yea, it's missing some variables ... I've got that on my shortlist |
| 15:09 |
|
eric |
Hi there. Anybody have problem with utf-8 and Marc 21 on Koha 3? |
| 15:09 |
|
paul |
could someone remind me something about bugzilla : |
| 15:10 |
|
paul |
priority P5 means "lower priority" & P1 mean "higher priority" or the opposite ? |
| 15:11 |
|
paul |
http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]lds.html#priority |
| 15:11 |
|
paul |
is the answer. |
| 15:11 |
|
gmcharlt |
eric: what sort of problem? |
| 15:13 |
|
eric |
gmcharlt, when I'm getting a record with, lets say é, from a z39.50 server, they are not imported correctly |
| 15:13 |
|
eric |
you can do a search of 'Astérix' for example |
| 15:13 |
|
gmcharlt |
what z39.50 target? and what is the name of the character in question (not showing up in my IRC client) |
| 15:14 |
|
eric |
you can use library of congress. The character is e acute |
| 15:16 |
|
kados |
eric: can you reproduce the error here: http://koha.liblime.com/cgi-bi[…]uing/addbiblio.pl |
| 15:17 |
|
eric |
kados: last time i tried i got the problem. I'll double check that |
| 15:17 |
|
eric |
you can search for LCCN: 89873320 |
| 15:19 |
|
kados |
not finding LCC 89873320 |
| 15:19 |
|
kados |
hang on |
| 15:20 |
|
kados |
I see now |
| 15:20 |
|
kados |
it comes back with a corruption of the acute accent |
| 15:20 |
|
kados |
Astâerix |
| 15:20 |
|
kados |
looks like double-encoding |
| 15:20 |
|
gmcharlt |
eric: workaround found - in SQL, set z3950servers.encoding = 'MARC-8' for the LC target |
| 15:20 |
|
eric |
yep, that is. |
| 15:20 |
|
kados |
maybe LOC's got utf8 claiming to be marc8 or the other way around? |
| 15:21 |
|
gmcharlt |
I'll take a look at fixing the Z3950 target administration page so that it can do that |
| 15:21 |
|
kados |
gmcharlt: we've discussed this in the past, we almost need two encoding types ... 'claims encoding' and 'actual encoding' |
| 15:21 |
|
kados |
ie, one you send, and the other you receive |
| 15:22 |
|
gmcharlt |
kados: would work except that charset negotiation is not reliable in Z39.50 - must determine what target is actually submitting, then set Koha accordingly |
| 15:23 |
|
gmcharlt |
perhaps adding a widget to the Z39.50 admin page to do test searches would help - add documentation to search for something known to have diacritics, and go through encoding options until it hitlist looks right |
| 15:23 |
|
gmcharlt |
other part, of course, is making sure that sample target defs are correct |
| 15:28 |
|
eric |
thanks for the workaround gmcharlt. It works fine. |
| 15:33 |
|
eric |
Oh! it seems that I have found another problem. After having imported Asterix, it seems that I can not find it if I do not use the accented letter. |
| 15:33 |
|
eric |
So, Asterix returns 0 result, and Astérix is ok. Any clue? |
| 15:34 |
|
gmcharlt |
eric: yeah, I need to commit some default character normalization rules to the English MARC21 Zebra config |
| 15:34 |
|
paul |
yep. Eric, you can use the unimarc/french things for that. |
| 15:34 |
|
paul |
it's complete. |
| 15:34 |
|
eric |
where do I have to set this? |
| 15:35 |
|
paul |
head/etc/zebradb/lang_defs/fr/sort-string-utf.chr |
| 15:35 |
|
gmcharlt |
eric: in your zebra conf directory, look for sort-strings-utf8.chr - copy the fr one to your en config, and restart zebrasrv |
| 15:35 |
|
gmcharlt |
you may need to also reindex (rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -r) |
| 15:35 |
|
paul |
and reindex your datas I think |
| 15:35 |
|
paul |
yep |
| 15:35 |
|
gmcharlt |
snap |
| 15:36 |
|
eric |
is there a way to flush all zebra indexes and rebuild them? I still have leftover data from a previous installation |
| 15:37 |
|
paul |
-r with rebuild_zebra |
| 15:37 |
|
paul |
r like reset ;-) |
| 15:37 |
|
eric |
cool. thanks paul! |
| 15:38 |
|
hdl |
++ interaction of lists with Zotero... |
| 15:38 |
|
hdl |
Is it possible to have it for result lists too ? |
| 15:39 |
|
owen |
For opac-search.pl? It's there |
| 15:40 |
|
hdl |
Not on my lists. |
| 15:40 |
|
hdl |
Not on my result search |
| 15:40 |
|
hdl |
But I have the RSS Icon, maybe conflicting |
| 15:41 |
|
owen |
No, it shouldn't conflict |
| 15:41 |
|
kados |
owen: I wasn't able to get zotero working on the results list either |
| 15:41 |
|
owen |
http://oleonard.dev.kohalibrar[…]search.pl?q=teach |
| 15:42 |
|
kados |
oh, I see |
| 15:42 |
|
kados |
it's a folder icon |
| 15:42 |
|
kados |
neat |
| 15:42 |
|
hdl |
Good owen. It workd for you. Not for me. |
| 15:42 |
|
kados |
owen++ |
| 15:42 |
|
hdl |
http://o15.hdlaurent.paulpoula[…]idx=&q=particules |
| 15:43 |
|
hdl |
but it works for lists so it should be OK soon. |
| 15:44 |
|
hdl |
(that also may be a problem of opac-resultlists update) |
| 15:44 |
|
hdl |
will investigate |
| 15:44 |
|
hdl |
owen ++++ |
| 15:45 |
|
owen |
owen-- for letting the OPAC search bar break when form fields get too long :( |
| 15:46 |
|
hdl |
:P |
| 16:03 |
|
owen |
paul, is there a patch pending for fixing OPACViewOthersSuggestions? |
| 16:03 |
|
paul |
not from me. hdl ? |
| 16:04 |
|
eric |
when rebuilind the index, i got multiple 'Failed to read character table sort-string-utf.chr'... |
| 16:05 |
|
paul |
ton fichier n'est pas en utf-8 |
| 16:05 |
|
paul |
ou alors c'est ta config qui ne l'est pas |
| 16:05 |
|
paul |
oups, sorry, should have answered in english here ;-) |
| 16:05 |
|
eric |
hehe |
| 16:05 |
|
paul |
your file is not saved in utf-8 format. |
| 16:06 |
|
paul |
or your zebra config don't specify you're in utf-8 |
| 16:08 |
|
eric |
checking this |
| 17:18 |
|
hdl |
owen : from me yes |
| 17:39 |
|
kados |
paul_koha: i've just pushed up some changes that I hope will address most of the US library holds problems |
| 17:40 |
|
kados |
paul_koha: completely external from holds management proper ... just a report with a holdsqueue table and a batch script to update it |
| 18:19 |
|
owen |
kados, can we get the full branch name passed to the template for the view_holdsqueue.pl results output? |
| 18:20 |
|
kados |
owen: yea, knew you'd ask that :-) |
| 18:23 |
|
owen |
kados, I just put some things on reserve but don't see them coming up in the results for all branches |
| 18:39 |
|
kados |
owen: sorry ... didn't mention you have to run the cron job |
| 18:45 |
|
kados |
hey danny |
| 18:57 |
|
owen |
C'mon, how can Yahoo be down? |
| 19:03 |
|
danny |
hey kados and #koha |
| 19:30 |
|
owen |
Later, all. |
| 20:20 |
|
chris |
morning |
| 20:52 |
|
acmoore |
some interesting git tutorials http://www.gitcasts.com/ |
| 20:56 |
|
chris |
oh cool |
| 21:04 |
|
acmoore |
yeah, I just know that there are about a zillion git tricks that I don't know about yet. add --interactive was one of them. I like being able to choose only some hunks out of a file for a commit. |
| 21:33 |
|
chris |
yeah |
| 21:33 |
|
chris |
stash is currently my fave |
| 21:33 |
|
chris |
and i like blame too :) |
| 21:46 |
|
chris |
have you used git-gc before? |
| 06:02 |
|
atz |
anybody used the "cogito" version of git? |
| 06:06 |
|
chris |
yeah its pretty much deprecated now |
| 06:07 |
|
chris |
all the stuff has been folded into git |
| 06:07 |
|
atz |
ah cool |
| 06:08 |
|
chris |
it certainly was a lot nicer than plain git pre 1.4ish |
| 06:36 |
|
atz |
big Tags AJAX patch sent! |
| 06:40 |
|
atz |
and now, teh sleepingz.... |
| 07:41 |
|
hdl |
prob |
| 08:57 |
|
chris |
hmm spam to the patches list |
| 09:10 |
|
hdl |
chris: yes. |
| 09:10 |
|
hdl |
Sorry. |
| 09:10 |
|
chris |
no problem |
| 09:20 |
|
lloyd_ |
I didn't get it, exchange must have binned it :) |
