| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 13:23 |
|
kados |
paul/hdl reply to your email :-) |
| 13:23 |
|
kados |
g'morning all |
| 13:36 |
|
kados |
hey owen |
| 13:51 |
|
owen |
Sorry, kados, I was just getting my ear chewed off by a cataloger ;) |
| 14:06 |
|
gmcharlt |
greetings #koha |
| 14:31 |
|
paul |
hello kados, owen & gmcharlt |
| 14:32 |
|
owen |
Hi paul |
| 14:32 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi paul |
| 15:57 |
|
atz |
"I, for one, welcome our new CGI leaders...." |
| 16:17 |
|
atz |
owen: i'm guessing that was all the ppl who wanted to test ahead of time that they could get on channel |
| 16:17 |
|
atz |
or rather, one person |
| 16:18 |
|
owen |
IRC is a big scary world |
| 16:18 |
|
atz |
not sure how to interpret the ~465b7561 66.249.19.54 |
| 16:20 |
|
fbcit |
hello koha |
| 16:26 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi fbcit |
| 16:55 |
|
fbcit |
is anyone familiar with C4::Labels::draw_boundaries ? |
| 17:15 |
|
owen |
is anyone familiar with how I can erase all copies of Internet Explorer 6 from existence? |
| 17:15 |
|
paul |
owen : just install linux :-D |
| 17:15 |
|
atz |
format c: |
| 17:15 |
|
owen |
That might help me, but I want everyone else's gone too! |
| 17:16 |
|
atz |
hah... nice. www.getfirefox.com is as close as I can get, there. |
| 17:17 |
|
gmcharlt |
owen: first, find a helpful ninja |
| 17:17 |
|
gmcharlt |
owen: then find lots of cash :) |
| 17:18 |
|
owen |
I guess debugging my CSS and JS in IE will be cheaper in the long run |
| 17:37 |
|
fbcit |
IE == Idiot's Elysium |
| 17:59 |
|
atz |
that's the same CGI IP, methinks |
| 18:00 |
|
atz |
:q |
| 18:23 |
|
glh |
Just checking bye |
| 19:28 |
|
[K] |
*** join #kohaFreeNode: dbs n=danpdpc/supporter/active/denials |
| 19:29 |
|
chris |
hey dan |
| 19:29 |
|
[K] |
<dbsFreeNode> long time no visit :) |
| 20:14 |
|
chris |
hey rosa |
| 20:17 |
|
Rosa |
Hi chris |
| 20:21 |
|
fbcit |
is the Label code new to Koha 3? |
| 20:23 |
|
chris |
its in dev_week |
| 20:24 |
|
fbcit |
chris: do you know if anyone is using it to print barcode labels on Avery 5160 labels? |
| 20:25 |
|
chris |
good question, off the top of my head, no i dont know |
| 20:25 |
|
fbcit |
or is it in production use at all? |
| 20:25 |
|
chris |
yes, i know Opus here in nz print labels |
| 20:25 |
|
chris |
i think some libraries in the US use it too, ryan would know |
| 20:27 |
|
fbcit |
I had some problems with creep and it seems that Avery's published template dimensions are to blame |
| 20:27 |
|
fbcit |
I'd love to talk with someone who is using it in production to compare notes |
| 20:32 |
|
fbcit |
ryan appears to be ryan_ right now :) |
| 20:32 |
|
chris |
yup |
| 20:33 |
|
nengard |
hi |
| 20:33 |
|
chris |
hey nicole |
| 20:33 |
|
chris |
rosa: have you met nicole? she is a prolific and respected blogger, a librarian, now an open source evangelist, and all round nice person |
| 20:34 |
|
nengard |
wow |
| 20:34 |
|
nengard |
what a nice intro |
| 20:34 |
|
chris |
rosa is the head librarian at HLT and the main reason Koha exists |
| 20:34 |
|
nengard |
hi rosa |
| 20:34 |
|
thd` |
gmcharlt: I sent you an email with a link to an archive documenting the installation bug I have been experiencing |
| 20:34 |
|
chris |
who may in fact now have wandered away from the keyboard to run her library :-) |
| 20:35 |
|
nengard |
k |
| 20:35 |
|
chris |
but she'll read back ;) |
| 20:35 |
|
chris |
hey thd |
| 20:35 |
|
nengard |
well - anyone can contact me via my info on http://web2learning.net |
| 20:36 |
|
gmcharlt |
thd: got it; I'll review it |
| 20:47 |
|
Rosa |
hi nengard. yep I wandered off, not to run my library, but to have a grand morning tea to farwell three of my student assistants |
| 20:48 |
|
nengard |
sounds fun |
| 20:51 |
|
Rosa |
Where do you come from, nicole? |
| 20:51 |
|
nengard |
Philadelphia, PA, USA |
| 20:52 |
|
nengard |
well - a bit north of there |
| 20:52 |
|
nengard |
but close enough |
| 21:09 |
|
thd |
chris: can I buy some sleep from you? |
| 21:09 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 21:09 |
|
chris |
not getting much myself |
| 21:09 |
|
nengard |
i could use more too |
| 21:09 |
|
chris |
Kahurangi has 4 molars coming in |
| 21:09 |
|
nengard |
ahhhh |
| 21:10 |
|
nengard |
:( |
| 21:13 |
|
chris |
ouch |
| 21:16 |
|
owen |
I guess molars are going around, mine's gettin' 'em too |
| 21:16 |
|
chris |
fbcit: http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]p?g2_itemId=10929 |
| 21:17 |
|
chris |
thats a recent photo of my son, you have one of your daughter? |
| 21:17 |
|
chris |
owen: not a lot of fun eh? |
| 21:17 |
|
chris |
i guess you have had practice before tho eh :-) |
| 21:18 |
|
fbcit |
chris: he's a fine looking young man |
| 21:18 |
|
owen |
Not too bad, it's really the combination of that and the cold that is causing the trouble |
| 21:18 |
|
chris |
ahh yeah, lucky for us its nice and warm, so if his teeth wake him up, he can sometimes go back to sleep |
| 21:18 |
|
fbcit |
chris: I don't have one online, I'll get one scanned up where you can see |
| 21:18 |
|
chris |
cool :) |
| 21:19 |
|
chris |
we could have a koha kids club :) |
| 21:19 |
|
fbcit |
:-) |
| 21:20 |
|
fbcit |
owen: my daughter has had a cold on top of teething this past week or so |
| 21:20 |
|
gmcharlt |
chris: and resurrect blobby-man for the kids club? :) |
| 21:21 |
|
chris |
hehe good idea |
| 21:22 |
|
chris |
i have a blobby man tshirt |
| 21:22 |
|
chris |
http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]p?g2_itemId=10222 |
| 21:23 |
|
owen |
Speaking of children, I'd better head out to get mine... |
| 21:23 |
|
chris |
cya owen |
| 21:28 |
|
gmcharlt |
thd: I've retrieved your install directory and logs in case you need to reclaim the space |
| 21:42 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt: I do not need to regain the space. My remote server has more unused space than my local machine which needs a new hard drive :) |
| 21:44 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt: maybe I can reward my local machine with a new hard drve if koha will install without that error. I could even reward myself. |
| 21:44 |
|
gmcharlt |
thd: I shall endeavor to help give you an excuse to reward your computer ;-) |
| 21:46 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt: if you look at the archive file times, you should see that I spent all night on this again. I need to reward myself with some more sleep sometime ;) |
| 21:46 |
|
atz |
I'll sell you some, cheap. |
| 21:46 |
|
gmcharlt |
thd: I got a checkinstall error; I'm now in the process of setting up a completely clean Debian Etch VM to do more testing |
| 21:47 |
|
gmcharlt |
atz: if only it worked that way :( |
| 21:47 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt did you have a different checkinstall error from me? |
| 21:47 |
|
atz |
gmcharlt: just try it. paypal me teh monies$$$ |
| 21:48 |
|
gmcharlt |
thd: yes, it died when set_koha_permissions was attempting chown |
| 21:48 |
|
gmcharlt |
thd: but I need to start fresh so that I'm not attempting a checkinstall onto a VM that already has a default koha install on it |
| 21:49 |
|
gmcharlt |
thd: attempting chmod, rather |
| 21:49 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt: I repoted that rror yesterday if I manually created /etc/koha in advance |
| 21:50 |
|
gmcharlt |
thd: yeah, but /etc/koha had already existed on my VM |
| 21:50 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt: However, I think that if you look at the line before you ill find that he first error is still the same about ./etc/koha/README.txt |
| 21:51 |
|
thd |
atz: are you selling sleep? :0 |
| 21:51 |
|
gmcharlt |
thd: could be, but logs are now gone -- hence I'm starting from scratch and will be logging it properly this time |
| 21:52 |
|
atz |
thd: yeah, but dreams cost extra. |
| 21:52 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt: my logs are perfectly complete for every step so if I did anything silly screenlog recorded it |
| 21:53 |
|
gmcharlt |
tbd: yep, but I'll be needing to revert to a VM snapshot repeatedly as a I (hopefully) find the fixes for Makefile.PL and/or checkinstall |
| 21:54 |
|
atz |
this is a textbook case for VMs |
| 21:54 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt what VM application have you been using? |
| 21:54 |
|
gmcharlt |
Mac Parallels |
| 21:55 |
|
thd |
I gues that does not work on non-macs |
| 21:56 |
|
atz |
thd: actually, VMware Converter claims to be able to import parallels images |
| 21:56 |
|
atz |
to be clear, parallels claims to be able to import VMware images, but failed in my experience |
| 21:56 |
|
atz |
haven't yet tested the former case |
| 21:58 |
|
chris |
use the xen :) |
| 21:58 |
|
atz |
or solaris virtualization, supposedly the performance king of the group (on sparc, of course) |
| 21:59 |
|
atz |
chris: i'd like to get more into xen |
| 21:59 |
|
thd |
I need a machine that can run a virtual machine without consuming all available resources |
| 21:59 |
|
atz |
thd: are you running VMs "headless"? |
| 22:00 |
|
thd |
atz: well I am not running any at the moment |
| 22:00 |
|
atz |
the video reprocessing of the desktop is by far the greatest CPU burden |
| 22:00 |
|
chris |
atz: its actually pretty easy with debian,there are some neat tools |
| 22:00 |
|
atz |
so if you just run the VM and connect to it via terminal |
| 22:00 |
|
atz |
you get better performance |
| 22:01 |
|
thd |
atz: I do not have enough RAM or CPU for my system without running any VM |
| 22:01 |
|
thd |
atz: I also run out of swap space on many nights while running cron jobs |
| 22:01 |
|
atz |
thd: ah, yeah, not much to do in that case... |
| 22:02 |
|
thd |
atz: I need to find some money so I can by more sleep and more hardware |
| 22:03 |
|
thd |
atz: which is difficult to do when lack of sleep pursuing money keeps leaving me sick for a week |
| 22:03 |
|
atz |
:( |
| 22:04 |
|
atz |
are you going to code4libcon in Portland? |
| 22:05 |
|
thd |
However, I refuse to sell out to working on non-free software :) |
| 22:05 |
|
chris |
:-) |
| 22:06 |
|
thd |
atz: no, ask them to hold it in New York City and I will attend ;) |
| 22:06 |
|
gmcharlt |
thd: know anybody at NYU, CCNY, etc. who might be willing to put out a bid to host? |
| 22:07 |
|
atz |
we have some clients there.... |
| 22:07 |
|
chris |
how bout the guggenheim :-) |
| 22:07 |
|
atz |
I think OCLC and Kent St. should team up and host in Columbus. :) |
| 22:08 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt: I know quite a few people at NYU but not ones who want to bother with organising a conference |
| 22:10 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt: ther is one possibilty at CCNY who might be willing to do the work if I can find her contact information. |
| 22:10 |
|
thd |
s/ther/there/ |
| 00:24 |
|
gmcharlt |
thd: I've made progress on the checkinstall issue |
| 00:24 |
|
gmcharlt |
thd: was able to do a checkinstall, then install the resulting .deb |
| 00:25 |
|
gmcharlt |
thd: after modifying checkinstall to only list regular files (as opposed to also the directories) from /etc in the package's conffile |
| 01:05 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt: is that merely a command option? |
| 01:05 |
|
gmcharlt |
no, I had to patch checkinstall itself |
| 01:05 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt: that is the same issue that the Koha installer had been having with globbing |
| 01:06 |
|
chris |
hi rachel |
| 01:06 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt: how do I obtain your patched version of checkinstall? |
| 01:07 |
|
thd |
hello rachel |
| 01:07 |
|
gmcharlt |
thd: I can email you a patch |
| 01:07 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt: horray, email away |
| 01:13 |
|
gmcharlt |
thd: email sent |
| 01:15 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt: which address did you send the message? I have many :) |
| 01:15 |
|
gmcharlt |
the kohaxxx one -- same one you emailed me from last |
| 01:17 |
|
thd |
odd, I have no new messages there |
| 01:18 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt: can you confirm that you typed koha AT agogme.com correctly? |
| 01:18 |
|
gmcharlt |
thd: I can confirm I copied and paste it correctly :) |
| 01:19 |
|
gmcharlt |
thd: I can try sending to another address if you wish |
| 01:21 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt: I have it now at least in my forwarded unified mail reading account |
| 01:24 |
|
thd |
gmcharlt: reading your message, is dpkg is happy to parse directories everywhere else but not for configfiles? |
| 01:26 |
|
gmcharlt |
thd: as far as I can tell from the dpkg format, the non-config files are basically in an ar archive, so there isn't a manifest as such -- it's only conffiles where there's a separate manifest that dpkg checks (as part of implementing the Debian policy about not scribbling over admin changes to config files during a package upgrade) |
| 08:21 |
|
paul |
chris : a small patch to validate in your mailbox |
| 08:21 |
|
paul |
(hello) |
| 08:22 |
|
chris |
hey paul |
| 08:22 |
|
chris |
ill take a look now |
