| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:48 |
|
arsenic |
good morning! |
| 13:35 |
|
fbcit |
g'morning koha |
| 13:36 |
|
arsenic |
hi fcbit! |
| 14:11 |
|
fbcit |
kados ping |
| 14:14 |
|
fbcit |
morning arsenic |
| 14:22 |
|
arsenic |
fcbit: How goes the windows' port? |
| 14:53 |
|
kados |
morning all |
| 15:00 |
|
fbcit |
arsenic_: there lack maybe 4 deps of having it up |
| 15:00 |
|
fbcit |
one is a real challenge |
| 15:00 |
|
fbcit |
libxslt |
| 15:01 |
|
fbcit |
seems nobody has XML::LibXSLT running under strawberry |
| 15:02 |
|
fbcit |
and I have not been able to get the activeperl version to work under strawberry |
| 15:06 |
|
gmcharlt |
good morning #koha |
| 15:06 |
|
arsenic |
'morning gmcharlt |
| 15:06 |
|
kados |
hey galen |
| 16:05 |
|
fbcit |
morning gmcharlt |
| 16:05 |
|
fbcit |
I sent you an email about libxslt |
| 16:05 |
|
gmcharlt |
morning fbcit -- got the e-mail, thanks |
| 16:24 |
|
fbcit |
can anyone recommend a quick and accurate way to test regex's before hand? |
| 16:28 |
|
gmcharlt |
fbcit: test regexes for what? |
| 16:28 |
|
fbcit |
results |
| 16:29 |
|
gmcharlt |
fbcit: sorry, not understanding -- so you have a regex, and you want to test it -- throwaway script? |
| 16:29 |
|
fbcit |
ie when I apply $foo =~ /[ ,].*$/ what is the regex returning for any given $foo |
| 16:30 |
|
gmcharlt |
i.e., what string it's matching? |
| 16:30 |
|
fbcit |
ie something like http://www.regexbuddy.com/ |
| 16:31 |
|
fbcit |
yes |
| 16:31 |
|
fbcit |
specifically that is |
| 16:33 |
|
gmcharlt |
fbcit: you could use $& to see what was matched |
| 16:33 |
|
gmcharlt |
but note that this should never appear in production code -- according to man perlvar, it causes a performance penalty |
| 16:34 |
|
fbcit |
right |
| 16:34 |
|
fbcit |
I'm looking for the equiv of sed -n -e '/foo/p' |
| 16:34 |
|
fbcit |
I think that's it |
| 16:34 |
|
fbcit |
I'm looking for the equiv of sed -n -e '/foo/p /foobar.txt' |
| 16:34 |
|
fbcit |
I'm looking for the equiv of sed -n -e '/foo/p' /foobar.txt |
| 16:34 |
|
fbcit |
even |
| 16:37 |
|
fbcit |
gmcharlt: tnx that does exactly what I wanted it to |
| 16:37 |
|
gmcharlt |
you're welcome |
| 16:43 |
|
fbcit |
kados: are there a fixed number and nomenclature of zebra keywords? |
| 16:43 |
|
kados |
it's configurable |
| 16:43 |
|
fbcit |
:( |
| 16:44 |
|
kados |
nozebra searching is supposed to suck ... |
| 16:44 |
|
kados |
if that's any consolation :-) |
| 16:44 |
|
kados |
that's why we switched to zebra :-) |
| 16:49 |
|
owen |
Merry Christmas Eve, #koha |
| 16:54 |
|
fbcit |
Merry Christmas Eve owen |
| 16:55 |
|
gmcharlt |
hi owen |
| 16:56 |
|
owen |
So I'm not the only one thinking about Koha today? :) |
| 16:59 |
|
gmcharlt |
owen: no, just can't tear ourselves away :) |
| 17:03 |
|
fbcit |
a NoZebra title search on 'Alexander the Great (NF)' results in a search limited by non-fiction... |
| 17:04 |
|
fbcit |
NZanalyse has some serious problems methinks. |
| 17:04 |
|
fbcit |
and lunch. |
| 17:05 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 17:05 |
|
kados |
hey owen |
| 17:05 |
|
kados |
owen: working on 670 today |
| 17:06 |
|
owen |
A timeless classic. |
| 17:07 |
|
owen |
I thought sometime we ought to talk in detail about the advanced search form. |
| 17:07 |
|
kados |
owen: sure |
| 17:09 |
|
kados |
owen: I'm thinking a mix between worldcat.org and google.com 's advanced searches |
| 17:09 |
|
kados |
maybe what we should do is have two separate templates |
| 17:09 |
|
kados |
one 'clean' and one 'traditional' |
| 17:10 |
|
kados |
(traditional woudl have boolean, all the subtype limits, etc.) |
| 17:10 |
|
owen |
A simplified one for the general public, and a complex one for librarians and die-hards |
| 17:10 |
|
kados |
even better |
| 17:11 |
|
kados |
so basically it's just a matter of skinning opac-results.tmpl |
| 17:11 |
|
owen |
Results? |
| 17:11 |
|
kados |
oops |
| 17:11 |
|
kados |
opac-advsearch.tmpl |
| 18:49 |
|
fbcit |
gmcharlt: if I put Koha 3 into production w/installer->standard |
| 18:49 |
|
fbcit |
is updating just a matter of running installer again w/same options? |
| 18:49 |
|
fbcit |
ie non-git |
| 18:50 |
|
kados |
yea |
| 18:50 |
|
kados |
so long as you haven't modifed any files in the tree |
| 18:50 |
|
kados |
install tree I mean |
| 18:51 |
|
kados |
it would be worth testing though |
| 18:51 |
|
kados |
if it overwrites the files |
| 18:51 |
|
kados |
ie, make a change and see if it overwrites the file |
| 18:51 |
|
kados |
long-term of course, we want to be all fancy, back up the user's install, warn them, force them to sign in blood before upgrading, etc. :-) |
| 18:51 |
|
fbcit |
right :-) |
| 18:52 |
|
fbcit |
I'm mainly wanting to get on with my production install while keeping up with changes |
| 18:53 |
|
fbcit |
before beginning |
| 18:53 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 18:56 |
|
fbcit |
kados: is there a way to get apt-get to tell what has been installed? |
| 19:14 |
|
gmcharlt |
fbcit: should work as long as you haven't been playing with timestamps in your production tree |
| 19:27 |
|
fbcit |
hrmm |
| 19:27 |
|
fbcit |
kados |
| 19:27 |
|
fbcit |
Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 19:27 |
|
fbcit |
libxml-sax-perl |
| 19:27 |
|
fbcit |
libxml-libxml-perl |
| 19:27 |
|
fbcit |
libxml-libxslt-perl |
| 19:27 |
|
fbcit |
libxml-simple-perl |
| 19:27 |
|
fbcit |
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 19:28 |
|
fbcit |
using 'dpkg --set-selections < install_misc/debian.packages' |
| 19:28 |
|
fbcit |
ok |
| 19:29 |
|
fbcit |
yup |
| 19:29 |
|
kados |
that's gonna be problematic |
| 19:29 |
|
kados |
I should add anote to the install doc |
| 19:29 |
|
kados |
libxml is really a problem! |
| 19:29 |
|
kados |
someome oughta fix it :-) |
| 19:30 |
|
kados |
basically, you want to run the package maintainer's versions of libxlm2 and libxxml-libxlm-perl (and associated) |
| 19:30 |
|
kados |
because they are compatible |
| 19:30 |
|
kados |
the cpan version isn't compatible with debian etch's version fo libxlm2 (C) |
| 19:35 |
|
kados |
s/bib/big/ |
| 19:37 |
|
fbcit |
kados: I added a note to README.debian you want the patch direct? |
| 19:38 |
|
gmcharlt |
kados: now have bulkmarcimport.pl converting from MARC-8 to UTF-8 correctly |
| 19:45 |
|
kados |
awesome |
| 19:45 |
|
kados |
fbcit: you can route it through patches@ if it's non-critical |
| 19:45 |
|
kados |
gmcharlt: what was the trick? |
| 19:45 |
|
gmcharlt |
basically, forcing use of NFC |
| 19:46 |
|
kados |
oh, interesting |
| 19:46 |
|
kados |
did you find that bit of code .../me can't remember where I hid it :-) |
| 19:46 |
|
kados |
Record.pm maybe? |
| 19:46 |
|
gmcharlt |
that gets the german example displaying in Firefox correctly |
| 19:46 |
|
kados |
_entity_encode |
| 19:46 |
|
kados |
in Record.pm |
| 19:46 |
|
kados |
FWIW |
| 19:47 |
|
kados |
y'know, I think there's a problem with firefox on OSX |
| 19:47 |
|
kados |
for certain fonts |
| 19:47 |
|
kados |
but maybe your NFC fixes that ... |
| 19:48 |
|
gmcharlt |
yeah, ran into something saying the Arial does not handle characters with decomposed diacritics correctly |
| 19:48 |
|
gmcharlt |
hence why NFC helps |
| 19:48 |
|
kados |
I always check with safari |
| 19:48 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 19:48 |
|
kados |
it'd be good to document that |
| 19:48 |
|
kados |
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]ncodingscratchpad |
| 19:48 |
|
kados |
is as good a place as any |
| 19:49 |
|
kados |
Web Browser section |
| 19:50 |
|
kados |
gmcharlt: so you convert to NFC before import? |
| 19:50 |
|
gmcharlt |
yes -- I revived the fMARC8toUTF8 functin that someone (thd?) had started |
| 19:51 |
|
gmcharlt |
it's bulkmarcimport only, for now |
| 19:51 |
|
kados |
*nod* |
| 19:59 |
|
gmcharlt |
icky, icky -- prior to this change, biblioitems.marc would be left in MARC-8 but biblioitems.marcxml would be in UTF-8 (presumably because MARC::File::XML was doing an automatic character conversion when the XML was generated) |
| 19:59 |
|
kados |
ok, here's an SQL question gmcharlt ... say I have the cn_sort value from one item, and I want to find the two before and after ? |
| 19:59 |
|
kados |
yea, that's messy |
| 20:00 |
|
gmcharlt |
select cn_sort from item where cn_sort <= X limit 2? |
| 20:00 |
|
gmcharlt |
select cn_sort from item where cn_sort <= X order by cn_sort desc limit 2? |
| 20:01 |
|
kados |
brilliant, thanks |
| 20:02 |
|
kados |
gmcharlt: I notice there's no imposed uniqueness on cn_sort, is that on purpose? |
| 20:03 |
|
gmcharlt |
yes -- can't guarantee it, since nothing prevents a library from having duplicate call numbers |
| 20:03 |
|
gmcharlt |
i.e., a lot of small public libraries don't insist on uniqueness |
| 20:03 |
|
gmcharlt |
they're probably a bit misguided IMO, but that's the practice |
| 20:03 |
|
kados |
:) |
| 20:04 |
|
gmcharlt |
false_economy-- |
| 20:04 |
|
kados |
I guess it means there's no way to truly identify shelf order |
| 20:04 |
|
kados |
unless we just 'fake it' |
| 20:04 |
|
gmcharlt |
kados: yeah, you pretty much have to fake it, at least in the general case |
| 20:05 |
|
gmcharlt |
a library could provide lots of specific info about which location codes correspond to which physical shelves, but that's not an instant thing to implement |
| 20:05 |
|
kados |
*nod* |
| 20:06 |
|
gmcharlt |
although a feature to ease management of such library maps would be nice (and distinctive) |
| 20:07 |
|
kados |
*nod* |
| 20:08 |
|
kados |
VM acting up again ... :/ |
| 21:03 |
|
fbcit |
Merry Christmas koha. |
| 21:04 |
|
gmcharlt |
Merry Christmas fbcit |
