Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
14:01 |
|
owen |
paul? |
14:25 |
|
paul |
hi owen |
14:25 |
|
owen |
Hi paul, I had a question about your RSS bug |
14:25 |
|
owen |
I found the markup that got taken out |
14:26 |
|
owen |
It's wrapped in TMPL_IF "RSS"... Is that a system pref? |
14:26 |
|
paul |
no, iirc |
14:33 |
|
owen |
? |
14:33 |
|
owen |
And where does <!-- TMPL_VAR name="site_url"--> come from? |
14:36 |
|
paul |
(and i'm the author of that, so I should, sorry) |
14:36 |
|
owen |
Shall I reassign the bug to you? |
14:38 |
|
paul |
it used to work, so someone should have removed something. but assign it to me, i'll investigate when I have some time. Note that "opensearch" pb is not for me |
14:39 |
|
owen |
the opensearch stuff I copied from dev_week, thinking it was coming along with other fixes coming over from dev_week. |
14:39 |
|
owen |
It's easily removed if opac-rss.pl provides the same functionality |
14:44 |
|
paul |
owen, does opac work for you atm ? |
14:45 |
|
paul |
(because it does not work for me, on an uptodate opac setup) |
14:45 |
|
paul |
http://o16.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]koha/opac-main.pl (search "histoire") |
14:45 |
|
paul |
while the staff works fine |
14:46 |
|
owen |
Yeah, except for a problem with the layout of the advanced search page, everything seems to be working okay for me. I'm not getting the error that you are. |
14:47 |
|
paul |
mmm... there's something wrong with the translator... |
14:48 |
|
owen |
Could that be what's causing the problem with the layout? Looks much different from mine: http://oleonard.dev.kohalibrar[…]koha/opac-main.pl |
14:49 |
|
paul |
i've switched to english, and the look is the same |
14:50 |
|
owen |
Really? It fixes it for me, on your site |
14:51 |
|
paul |
i mean same as you. |
14:51 |
|
paul |
but still impossible to search :-( |
15:02 |
|
fbcit |
g'morning koha |
15:02 |
|
paul |
hi fbcit |
15:18 |
|
paul |
owen : strange, OPAC works for 2 of my 3 setups, but not for o16... |
15:18 |
|
paul |
(works fine for o11 and o15) |
15:24 |
|
hdl |
paul : have you checked that your QueryStemming QueryFuzzy and other is disable ? |
15:24 |
|
hdl |
(32 enables it by default.) |
15:24 |
|
paul |
yep, the search works for staff |
15:25 |
|
paul |
it does not work only for opac |
15:25 |
|
paul |
I get the following query in zebra : |
15:25 |
|
paul |
16:23:50-29/11 zebrasrv(20) [request] Search biblios ERROR 114 1 1+0 RPN @attrset Bib-1 @not chaos @or @and @and @and lost st-numeric gt 0 @not @attr "1=_ALLRECORDS" @attr 2=103 '' @attr 1=8002 @attr 2=103 '' |
15:35 |
|
hdl |
lost st-numeric gt 0 |
15:35 |
|
hdl |
set off hide lostitems. |
15:35 |
|
hdl |
paul |
15:36 |
|
hdl |
it should work. |
15:36 |
|
paul |
it's already off, sorry |
15:37 |
|
hdl |
then... you should NOT have lost st-numeric gt 0 |
15:37 |
|
hdl |
I already bugged kados about that. |
15:38 |
|
hdl |
I set it on then back off and |
15:38 |
|
hdl |
search happend to work. |
15:39 |
|
paul |
gotcha !!! |
15:39 |
|
paul |
it works !!! |
15:59 |
|
fbcit |
can someone provide me with a concise set of symlinks that need to be created to run koha from my clone (aka dev install)? |
16:00 |
|
owen |
Line 342 of circulation.pl: |
16:00 |
|
owen |
if ($getiteminfo->{'holdingbranch'} ne $num_res->{'branchcode'} ) { |
16:00 |
|
owen |
$getWaitingReserveInfo{waitingat} = GetBranchName( $num_res->{'branchcode'} ); |
16:00 |
|
owen |
} |
16:01 |
|
owen |
That's supposed to show the location of the item if the item is not waiting at the branch where the librarian is logged in? |
16:11 |
|
owen |
If only dewey were here, he'd know |
16:19 |
|
fbcit |
owen: any thoughts on why when I go to change marc framework under "Add MARC Record" the resulting form has no fields? |
16:19 |
|
fbcit |
am I missing a setting somewhere? |
16:20 |
|
owen |
fbcit: from addbiblip.pl? |
16:20 |
|
owen |
sorry: addbiblio.pl? |
16:20 |
|
fbcit |
that's it |
16:21 |
|
owen |
Do you have "Default" in the framework drop-down? |
16:21 |
|
fbcit |
Default displays ok, the sample frameworks do not. |
16:22 |
|
owen |
So you know you have more than just the default framework, but they're not showing up? |
16:22 |
|
fbcit |
I have dropped the db and reinstalled it twice now with the same effects.. |
16:22 |
|
fbcit |
right |
16:24 |
|
fbcit |
the drop-down shows all 8 sample frameworks as available... |
16:24 |
|
owen |
Ah, but when you choose one, the page reloads as empty? |
16:24 |
|
fbcit |
exactly |
16:26 |
|
owen |
Sorry, no clue. But then again, the only framework I have is the default one. |
16:30 |
|
fbcit |
:-( |
16:31 |
|
ryan |
fbcit: fbcit works ok for me |
16:32 |
|
ryan |
must have been an error in adding the framework data |
16:32 |
|
fbcit |
ryan: it worked for me yesterday too, but then I dropped the db and reinstalled and you know the rest... |
16:34 |
|
owen |
fbcit, did your install come with 8 sample frameworks? |
16:35 |
|
fbcit |
owen: yes. they are in installer/data/mysql/en/marcflavour/marc21/optional/marc21_simple_bib_frameworks.sql I believe.... |
16:37 |
|
fbcit |
hrm... probably unrelated, but "circulation.pl: Warning: something's wrong at /usr/lib/cgi-bin/kohaclone1/circ/circulation.pl line 199." |
16:39 |
|
fbcit |
it looks like the sample frameworks loaded ok. |
16:47 |
|
ryan |
owen: i do get a wacky flash of multicolored lines behind the 'loading' box |
16:49 |
|
owen |
Is it the graphic? |
16:52 |
|
ryan |
related, anyway. |
16:52 |
|
ryan |
might just be css issue |
16:52 |
|
ryan |
i'll file a bug if it persists |
16:52 |
|
paul |
ok, problem solved for me : I can search on opac and the behaviour is the same in french and in english ! |
16:53 |
|
paul |
was tricky... |
16:53 |
|
ryan |
fbcit: must be problem with installer. |
16:55 |
|
ryan |
fbcit: you can manually apply installer/data/mysql/en/marcflavour/marc21/optional/marc21_simple_bib_frameworks.sql |
16:56 |
|
fbcit |
I don't think that's it as when I do the import manually, mysql complains about dup keys |
16:56 |
|
fbcit |
and bails out |
16:56 |
|
fbcit |
so it would appear the data is already loaded... |
16:57 |
|
ryan |
and /cgi-bin/koha/admin/biblio_framework.pl |
16:57 |
|
ryan |
what do you see frm 'MARC Structure' links there ? |
16:59 |
|
fbcit |
Create framework for SR (Audio Cassettes, CDs) using Default... |
16:59 |
|
fbcit |
with no other options in the drop-down |
16:59 |
|
fbcit |
? |
17:20 |
|
fbcit |
ryan: you were right... the framework data did not fully load for some reason... |
17:21 |
|
fbcit |
I'll take a look at install.pl... |
17:21 |
|
fbcit |
tnx ryan, owen |
17:24 |
|
ryan |
fbcit: there's quite a bit of work being done on installer right now, with a bunch of patches in the queue |
17:33 |
|
owen |
ryan and/or atz: have we got the date-picker widget working properly with the dateformat system pref? |
17:33 |
|
atz |
yes |
17:33 |
|
owen |
I get errors from the ones on memberentry.pl, and the format is wrong for the one on circulation.pl |
17:33 |
|
atz |
but not every script uses it yet |
17:33 |
|
owen |
It's a script issue? |
17:34 |
|
atz |
if you see "use C4::Date" |
17:34 |
|
atz |
instead of "use C4::Dates" |
17:34 |
|
atz |
then it is still the "old style" |
17:34 |
|
atz |
somewhere my patches of C4 modules were reverted recently too |
17:35 |
|
atz |
so basically, the module is fine but the integration is lacking |
17:36 |
|
atz |
that's on my plate after I polish up my LDAP integration |
17:36 |
|
owen |
Forgive the Perl-ignorant question, but what does C4:Dates do compared to Date::Calc? |
17:37 |
|
atz |
Calc allows you to say "how many days between X and Y dates" |
17:37 |
|
atz |
C4::Dates just provides the format-independent and syspref-aware date storage |
17:37 |
|
atz |
it doesn't do computation |
17:38 |
|
owen |
gotcha |
17:39 |
|
owen |
So atz, you'll be doing a systematic look at date-handling in scripts, so I shouldn't file bugs for date problems? |
17:39 |
|
atz |
if it is still using C4:Date, then you don't need to bother |
17:40 |
|
atz |
but if it is Dates, then please do |
17:40 |
|
owen |
Okay |
17:40 |
|
ryan |
owen: circulation.pl should be correct. |
17:41 |
|
atz |
there are likely to be some snags w/ different javascript validation functions that are not in the same pattern of usage |
17:41 |
|
owen |
ryan, I'm getting iso format dates from the date picker even though my sys pref says US |
17:42 |
|
ryan |
ah, i see. |
17:42 |
|
ryan |
i'll update that. |
17:42 |
|
atz |
i think that was a patch from paul recently |
17:42 |
|
atz |
moving the default from "if object declared in a format, then remember the format" to "forget declared format, default to syspref" |
17:43 |
|
atz |
which I can see now fits our application better |
17:44 |
|
ryan |
so DHTMLformat => C4::Dates->DHTMLcalendar(), |
17:46 |
|
ryan |
seems to return wrong format now. |
17:46 |
|
atz |
? |
17:46 |
|
ryan |
should return syspref fmt , right ? |
17:46 |
|
ryan |
not iso ? |
17:48 |
|
atz |
sub DHTMLcalendar ($;$) { # interface to posix_map |
17:48 |
|
atz |
my $class = shift; |
17:48 |
|
atz |
my $format = (@_) ? shift : $prefformat; |
17:48 |
|
atz |
return $posix_map{$format}; |
17:48 |
|
atz |
} |
17:49 |
|
atz |
not much to it. |
17:49 |
|
ryan |
i'm not seeing the problem. |
17:49 |
|
atz |
me either. |
17:50 |
|
atz |
lol |
17:50 |
|
atz |
nice. |
17:51 |
|
ryan |
huh |
17:51 |
|
ryan |
ok, owen's right |
17:51 |
|
atz |
if you had iso syspref... you get iso |
17:53 |
|
atz |
try this: perl -MC4::Dates -e 'print C4::Dates->DHTMLcalendar, "\n";' |
17:54 |
|
atz |
perl -MC4::Dates -e 'print C4::Dates->new->format(), "\n";' |
17:59 |
|
atz |
rch: i have a high degree of certainty those tests will produce correct results |
18:00 |
|
ryan |
yeah - is template bug. |
18:00 |
|
ryan |
my fault |
18:02 |
|
atz |
i get some updatedabase errors |
18:02 |
|
atz |
updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Duplicate column name 'damaged' at /home/atz/koha/production/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 561. |
18:05 |
|
atz |
also duplicates: column name 'itype' (line 584), entries 'QueryStemming','QueryFuzzy','QueryWeightFields' for key 1 (lines 711-713) |
18:05 |
|
ryan |
np there |
18:05 |
|
atz |
i assume this is fine, since it's just dups |
18:05 |
|
ryan |
yep |
19:13 |
|
fbcit |
uhoh... |
19:14 |
|
fbcit |
when attempting to add a marc record retrieved from loc.gov, I get the following: |
19:14 |
|
fbcit |
Can't coerce array into hash at /usr/lib/cgi-bin/kohaclone1/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl line 690. |
19:47 |
|
[K] |
*** join #kohaFreeNode: rangi n=chris203-118-134-114.netspace.net.nz |
20:03 |
|
fbcit |
hi chris |
20:04 |
|
chris |
hi |
20:06 |
|
fbcit |
chris: what is the relationship between authorities and marc records? |
20:08 |
|
chris |
ahhh thats a librarian question :) basically from what ive gathered, you have authority records to stop you having 28 slightly different spellings of an authors name |
20:08 |
|
chris |
or subjects |
20:09 |
|
fbcit |
I'm trying to figure out why things break when I go to save a marc record imported from loc.gov... |
20:10 |
|
owen-away |
Did you get an error when you tried that? |
20:10 |
|
chris |
http://authorities.loc.gov/help/auth-faq.htm#1 |
20:10 |
|
fbcit |
yes |
20:10 |
|
fbcit |
Can't coerce array into hash at /usr/lib/cgi-bin/kohaclone1/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl line 690. |
20:10 |
|
owen |
I got an error yesterday when I tried to save something that I grabbed via z3950. |
20:10 |
|
fbcit |
looks like there is no authority record.... |
20:10 |
|
owen |
But then the next time I tried something it worked okay. |
20:11 |
|
fbcit |
and the 'else' breaks |
20:11 |
|
fbcit |
do I have to create authorities for each 'foo'... whatever 'foo' is? |
20:11 |
|
owen |
I don't understand--why do you think it's related to authority records? |
20:12 |
|
chris |
no you shouldnt have to |
20:12 |
|
fbcit |
owen: only because it breaks in the section of code which looks like it builds an authority record when none exists.... |
20:16 |
|
gmcharlt |
fbcit: this is code that is automatically trying to create authority records for each bib heading |
20:17 |
|
gmcharlt |
if this is blocking something else you're pursuing, you can turn off the BibloAddsAuthorities preference |
20:17 |
|
gmcharlt |
to disable this |
20:18 |
|
fbcit |
gmcharlt: I'm actually trying to get a copy into production here. Is turning it off a "safe" option? |
20:18 |
|
owen |
gmcharlt: Koha now creates authority records every time a record is saved? |
20:18 |
|
gmcharlt |
yes -- automatically creating authorities is not something every library will want turned on |
20:18 |
|
chris |
ohh how cool |
20:19 |
|
fbcit |
should it work ok? |
20:19 |
|
gmcharlt |
fbcit: yes, it should |
20:19 |
|
fbcit |
bugzilla? |
20:19 |
|
gmcharlt |
yeah, go ahead and file a bug |
20:20 |
|
gmcharlt |
it may be a configuration issue -- either missing framework or setting up Zebra authority index |
20:20 |
|
gmcharlt |
but if it is just config, probably indicates install doc bug |
20:20 |
|
chris |
i suspect youd get a bunch of duplicates ... but for places like NZ .. where the national library charges an arm and a leg for authority records |
20:21 |
|
chris |
a lot of libraries will like it |
20:21 |
|
gmcharlt |
main issue I have it with is that it happens completely silently to the cataloger at the moment |
20:21 |
|
aklibrarian |
As a librarian, I would like it if it asked my approval before adding it. |
20:21 |
|
gmcharlt |
cataloger should have an option to review the new records first |
20:21 |
|
aklibrarian |
gm, I agree with you |
20:21 |
|
chris |
ahhh yep good point |
20:22 |
|
fbcit |
so authority records basically help enforce rules? |
20:22 |
|
fbcit |
data entry rules? |
20:22 |
|
fbcit |
for marc records? |
20:23 |
|
gmcharlt |
fbcit: that's a part of it |
20:23 |
|
gmcharlt |
here's authority records in a nutshell: |
20:23 |
|
gmcharlt |
1. create unique entry for each name or subject heading |
20:23 |
|
gmcharlt |
2. related different forms of names (e.g., think of Shakespeare's name in every language his plays were published in) |
20:24 |
|
gmcharlt |
3. link subjects -- i.e., urology is a part of medicine; or if you're interested in cars, see automobiles |
20:25 |
|
gmcharlt |
4. link variant forms of titles for the same work -- e.g., "War and Piece" is the English name of whatever the Russian title is |
20:25 |
|
gmcharlt |
War and Peace, rather |
20:25 |
|
gmcharlt |
5. (and in a way, this is the least important function) catch typos when entering access headings |
20:25 |
|
gmcharlt |
here endeth the nutshell |
20:25 |
|
chris |
:) |
20:26 |
|
fbcit |
gmcharlt: so authorities can be added after the fact? |
20:26 |
|
gmcharlt |
often |
20:26 |
|
gmcharlt |
e.g., if you're cataloging the first book by an author, no authority exists yet, so you can create one for that person |
20:27 |
|
owen |
fbcit: In the U.S. libraries are probably most accustomed to buying their authority records from someone else, rather than creating them from scratch |
20:27 |
|
gmcharlt |
national libraries and library collectivies like LC, OCLC, NLA, NLNZ, etc maintain big authority files |
20:27 |
|
owen |
I think in France the records are free to Frech libraries |
20:27 |
|
gmcharlt |
so yeah, as owen said, most catalogers try to look up and get a valid authority record before creating one from scratch |
20:27 |
|
fbcit |
I notice that loc.gov has auth records for free |
20:28 |
|
gmcharlt |
yep, but at present not in the most convenient fashion to actually get at |
20:28 |
|
gmcharlt |
so people often end up paying OCLC or so-called authority control vendors for the records |
20:29 |
|
gmcharlt |
the authority control vendors can also analyze a library's bib file, determine which authorities fit, and supply the authorities in a MARC file |
20:29 |
|
gmcharlt |
authority control vendors can also correct outdated forms of various headings |
20:30 |
|
owen |
Someone's gotta add a year to all the recently-dead authors... |
20:30 |
|
fbcit |
:-) |
20:30 |
|
gmcharlt |
and you'd be amazed about the long and bitter debates about author death dates in name authority records |
20:31 |
|
owen |
Wow, I can think of better things to do with my time! |
20:31 |
|
fbcit |
so really I should: 1. turn off the BibloAddsAuthorities && |
20:32 |
|
fbcit |
2. Get some accurate auth records |
20:32 |
|
aklibrarian |
I don't know anyone that has enough time to worry about death dates. |
20:32 |
|
fbcit |
3. Add marc records...? |
20:32 |
|
owen |
fbcit, there's no reason why you /need/ authority records |
20:35 |
|
gmcharlt |
right -- MARC 21 authority support is in fact in need of tweaking atm |
20:35 |
|
fbcit |
do authority records assist in patron searches as well? |
20:35 |
|
owen |
One benefit of having authority records is that the patron can browse by authority in the OPAC |
20:36 |
|
owen |
I'm not sure how Koha does it, but other systems use authority records to provide feedback to the patron about "see also" references |
20:36 |
|
fbcit |
ok, so I think I'll proceed w/o them for the time being. |
20:37 |
|
fbcit |
tnx everyone for the MARC 21 Authorities 101 class... :-) |
20:39 |
|
aklibrarian |
I don't think they help that much Either that or I haven't taught my patrons enough about their use. |
20:39 |
|
owen |
aklibrarian: With Koha, or another system? |
20:42 |
|
aklibrarian |
Any system |
20:42 |
|
aklibrarian |
Koha will the third I have used. |
20:43 |
|
aklibrarian |
I don't know if any of my patrons use it as much as they should, but I am trying this year. |
20:43 |
|
aklibrarian |
This is the first year we will have interlibrary loan between branches. |
20:44 |
|
masonj |
morning #koha |
20:44 |
|
fbcit |
hi masonj |
20:46 |
|
aklibrarian |
I love being at my desk. I am trying to install Koha on Ubuntu this morning. It is much easier to do from your own desk and not in a different village. |
20:47 |
|
masonj |
hiya back fbcit |
20:48 |
|
fbcit |
one other librarian type question.... |
20:49 |
|
fbcit |
when importing a marc record, does one modify the dewey decimal classification number to match the local copy? |
20:51 |
|
aklibrarian |
I change it |
20:51 |
|
aklibrarian |
The local copy gets it from 082 |
20:52 |
|
fbcit |
tnx aklibrarian |
21:11 |
|
owen |
chris? |
21:12 |
|
chris |
yep |
21:12 |
|
owen |
do you have ReservesNeedReturns turned on in sys prefs? |
21:12 |
|
chris |
lemme check |
21:13 |
|
chris |
ahh that'll be it |
21:13 |
|
chris |
its off |
21:14 |
|
owen |
Off for me too |
21:14 |
|
chris |
hmm then maybe not |
21:14 |
|
chris |
weird |
21:14 |
|
chris |
ill turn it on and retest |
21:17 |
|
chris |
ok reserved it to be picked up at southwest bend |
21:17 |
|
chris |
gonna return it to main |
21:18 |
|
chris |
i get hold found |
21:18 |
|
chris |
and a button to confirm and transfer |
21:18 |
|
chris |
clicked that |
21:18 |
|
chris |
now im gonna go return it at southwest bend |
21:19 |
|
chris |
hold found (item is already waiting) |
21:19 |
|
chris |
seems to be working fine |
21:19 |
|
chris |
hmm do you have independentbranches on? |
21:20 |
|
owen |
Dang, working for me now too. I wonder if I've got the steps wrong |
21:20 |
|
owen |
Or maybe I'm just crazy |
21:20 |
|
chris |
heh |
21:21 |
|
owen |
Are you seeing the "hold waiting" message on the circ screen of the patron you reserved for? |
21:21 |
|
chris |
havent looked, ill go check |
21:21 |
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chris |
yep there it is |
21:23 |
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owen |
Right there on the screen, rather than down in the "holds" tab? |
21:24 |
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chris |
its in both places |
21:24 |
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chris |
on the right, and in the holds tab |
21:24 |
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owen |
I'm not seeing the message on the right for my patron. Does that patron have other messages? |
21:24 |
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chris |
yep, overdue and fines |
21:25 |
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chris |
that might be the issue a misplaced tmpl_if maybe |
21:25 |
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owen |
There must be a bug in the template for those with no other messages. I'll have to check it out tomorrow |
21:25 |
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owen |
Thanks for your help chris |
21:25 |
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chris |
no worrie |
21:25 |
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chris |
s |
23:31 |
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aklibrarian |
Chris, I am back to installing Koha. I am trying to Open Hints and I can't do it. It tells me permission denied. Any ideas? I am using Ubuntu |
23:31 |
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chris |
open hints? |
23:32 |
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aklibrarian |
I tried that and i get permission denied. Unable to open vt 7 |
23:32 |
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chris |
i meant what is open hints? im unsure what you are trying to do |
23:34 |
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aklibrarian |
Hints is one of the files in the program |
23:34 |
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aklibrarian |
I want to open it before I go on to see how it could help me, I seem to need a lot of help. |
23:35 |
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chris |
ahh im fairly sure nothing in there will be helpful, let me just check |
23:37 |
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chris |
nope thats old and out of date |
23:37 |
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aklibrarian |
lol, I have been trying to open it for an hour now. |
23:38 |
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chris |
you have the installing koha on ubuntu webpage eh ... thats about the best resource there is for getting 2.2.9 going on ubuntu |
23:39 |
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chris |
basically you have to get all the software koha depends on, like mysql, and apache and the perl modules installed, then as root run perl installer.pl |
23:41 |
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aklibrarian |
That worked. Thanksz |
23:49 |
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aklibrarian |
I found that I only thought I had all the prerequisistes done for this. |
01:10 |
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aklibrarian |
Is YAZ 2.1.8 earlier than 2.1.5 I am getting an installation error for this. |
01:11 |
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masonj_ |
hmm, its a later version. |
01:12 |
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aklibrarian |
I thought it was, but I get an error message that I have YAZ 2.1.8 AND I need at least 2.1.50 |
01:13 |
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masonj_ |
ah, 2.1.5 is 45 versions behind 2.1.50 :) |
01:14 |
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aklibrarian |
Got it. I thought the numbering was different. |
01:14 |
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masonj_ |
yeah, 2.1.50 isnt 2.1.5.0 |
01:15 |
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masonj_ |
its got me before too :) |
01:18 |
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aklibrarian |
Does the command sudo perl -MCPAN -e ' install "You will need PDF::AP12 for barcode generator"' Sound correct |
01:20 |
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masonj_ |
try, sudo perl -MCPAN -e ' install "PDF::AP12"' |
01:21 |
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aklibrarian |
Cannot install PDF::AP12, don't know what it is |
01:22 |
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masonj_ |
ooh, typo |
01:22 |
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masonj_ |
API2, not AP12 |
01:23 |
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masonj_ |
I not 1 |
01:32 |
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aklibrarian |
Correct words makes all the difference |