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| 12:45 |
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lloyd_ |
Russel |
| 12:45 |
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| 15:06 |
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fbcit |
g'morning koha |
| 15:08 |
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paul |
hello fbcit |
| 15:12 |
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owen |
Hi everyone |
| 15:21 |
|
gmcharlt |
fbcit: for the winter? :) |
| 15:22 |
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fbcit |
gmcharlt: hopefully only for the day... but my patches went with it... scsi drive failure |
| 15:23 |
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gmcharlt |
ouch |
| 15:25 |
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fbcit |
gmcharlt: let me run spinrite on the array and see if I can recover some data |
| 15:26 |
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fbcit |
the file system was in readonly mode before I rebooted, so maybe its there somewhere... |
| 15:26 |
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fbcit |
that's the only one I will really miss |
| 15:26 |
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fbcit |
brb |
| 15:26 |
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gmcharlt |
good luck |
| 15:46 |
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fbcit |
gmcharlt: I have my clone on a usb key... :-) (git on a stick so to speak..) |
| 15:46 |
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fbcit |
that patch is there.. |
| 15:46 |
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gmcharlt |
yay! |
| 15:46 |
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fbcit |
I'll get it to you this afternoon |
| 15:46 |
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gmcharlt |
thanks |
| 15:53 |
|
aklibrarian |
Good morning. I need some help in updating Yaz. I think I downloaded it earlier today, but now I can't find it. |
| 16:01 |
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masonj |
locate yaz |
| 16:02 |
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chris |
good grief why are you awake mason .... i have an excuse but good lord man its 5am on saturday morning :) |
| 16:03 |
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masonj |
its the weekend, and i had a sleep before :) |
| 16:03 |
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paul |
hi chris. |
| 16:03 |
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paul |
(hi masonj as well) |
| 16:03 |
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masonj |
hiya paul |
| 16:04 |
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masonj |
paul, sweet nozebra! |
| 16:04 |
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chris |
hi paul, sorry i havent been around much i have campylobacter which im just now getting over (u might have to wikipedia it ;)) |
| 16:04 |
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paul |
masonj: hdl just sent some fixes to handle () support in NZ |
| 16:05 |
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paul |
wikipedia french known campylobacter ! |
| 16:05 |
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chris |
heh |
| 16:05 |
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paul |
so you've eaten some bad food it seems. |
| 16:06 |
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paul |
(usually chicken wp says) |
| 16:06 |
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owen |
Sounds nasty |
| 16:06 |
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masonj |
french created campylobacter :) |
| 16:06 |
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chris |
yes ... wasnt chicken, not sure what it was |
| 16:06 |
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hdl |
hi chris : are you better now ? |
| 16:06 |
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chris |
but i got sick saturday night, so missed Kahurangi's party on sunday :( didnt want to make the babies sick |
| 16:07 |
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paul |
wow, in france : 15 000 ppl getting it, with around 15 dying from it ! |
| 16:07 |
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paul |
the picture is nice : |
| 16:07 |
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chris |
hdl: i started on antibiotics yesterday (it took that long for the tests to prove what it was) so getting better now |
| 16:07 |
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paul |
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/I[…]cter_fetus_01.jpg |
| 16:07 |
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owen |
There is nothing about that link that makes me want to click it! |
| 16:08 |
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paul |
you've been beaten by the one on the left, middle of the page. |
| 16:08 |
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paul |
with nasty black eyes. |
| 16:08 |
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paul |
for sure. |
| 16:08 |
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masonj |
hmm, they are very small rice warriors |
| 16:09 |
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masonj |
i suspect basmati... |
| 16:11 |
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chris |
hdl: i feel a lot better today than i did yesterday so thats good |
| 16:13 |
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paul |
chris : so we can send you patches ? |
| 16:14 |
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chris |
yep |
| 16:14 |
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chris |
kados has been super busy so has a few waiting for him to check too |
| 16:15 |
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paul |
mmm... I have 13 patches, but i'm sure I already sent you at least 7 |
| 16:15 |
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paul |
owen still around ? |
| 16:15 |
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chris |
did you get an email from about them? when i send them up, i make sure the original patch sender is cc'd too |
| 16:15 |
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paul |
did you saw the patch I've sent to you directly about opac-advsearch.tmpl |
| 16:16 |
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paul |
chris : right. |
| 16:16 |
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paul |
(and yes, i got it) |
| 16:16 |
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owen |
I'm working on opac-advsearch.tmpl now, paul. |
| 16:16 |
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chris |
cool, they will be waiting for kados |
| 16:19 |
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chris |
cool |
| 16:20 |
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paul |
gmcharlt: /me just added a comment on bug 1634 (incorrect encoding) |
| 16:20 |
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gmcharlt |
paul: thanks -- mysql version diff is interesting |
| 16:43 |
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owen |
paul, I've CC'ed you a patch for opac-advsearch.tmpl and mastead-basic.inc |
| 16:44 |
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owen |
The reason for using a different masthead inc for the advsearch is to remove possible confusion over the "quick search" form being on the same page as the advanced search form |
| 16:45 |
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owen |
opac-advsearch.tmpl is probably going to change some more, though, as we do more refining of that interface |
| 16:47 |
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chris |
hmm first 3 patches wouldnt apply owen |
| 16:48 |
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chris |
i think, we let kados catch up, then rebase and resend those ones |
| 17:01 |
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ryan |
owen: can't masthead diff be handled with tmpl vars ? |
| 17:02 |
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owen |
It certainly could. We'd just have to set (or identify) a variable in opac-advsearch.pl that could trigger the alternate appearance |
| 17:39 |
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fbcit |
gmcharlt: check your inbox... I sent the correct patch |
| 17:39 |
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fbcit |
if you have an email for slef, I'll forward him a copy... or you can. |
| 17:41 |
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ryan |
win 4 |
| 17:42 |
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gmcharlt |
I'll forward, but he does respond to the address he uses for postings on koha-devel |
| 17:45 |
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gmcharlt |
fbcit: got the patch, thanks |
| 19:08 |
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CGI828 |
Hello, first time here, is anyone there? |
| 19:11 |
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owen |
Yes, a few |
| 19:12 |
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ryan |
owen: link to the wiki page detailing the interface design goals ? |
| 19:13 |
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ryan |
i can't find it |
| 19:13 |
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ryan |
nm |
| 19:13 |
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ryan |
found it |
| 19:15 |
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CGI828 |
Hello, my name is Judy, I'm a library student in the US, not very technical, and learning about Koha. I'm really confused as to what the differences are between Koha downloadable on Koha.org (2.2.8 for Windows) and the ones offered on Liblime. I'm getting the sense that Liblime uses the same software, they just add on services like hosting and packaging? Can someone please correct me? Thanks in advance for your help. Also I see that 3.0, when is that due out? |
| 19:17 |
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owen |
CGI828: Liblime is a Koha support company, so they'll host Koha for you, or install it for you, or develop new Koha features for you |
| 19:19 |
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owen |
CGI828: Are you talking about the demo on Liblime.com, or do they have a Koha demo up for your library school? |
| 19:21 |
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CGI828 |
I meant the downloadable version on Koha.org website, which also has a demo version which seems to be hosted by Liblime. I don't have the school demo. |
| 19:22 |
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CGI828 |
So does it mean that the downloadable version on Koha.org website also has the Amazon cover images capabilities, and the zebra fast search, rss and book bag features? Or do I need to get that from Liblime. |
| 19:24 |
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owen |
The zebra fast search demoed on the Liblime site is a preview of functionality that will be in 3.0, which will be out...uh...soon. |
| 19:24 |
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owen |
We're working actively on 3.0 now, and hope to have a developer's release out within a couple of weeks |
| 19:25 |
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owen |
2.2.8 doesn't have the zoom fast search...and while it /may/ have Amazon book covers, it doesn't have the other Amazon-added features like book reviews and similar items |
| 19:26 |
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CGI828 |
Oh okay. So how is it that Liblime can offer the zebra and Amazon book reviews. Are there a different set of developers? I'm confused. |
| 19:29 |
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owen |
The demo that they have on their site is like a preview version of Koha 3.0, an unreleased hybrid of the 2.x series and 3.0 |
| 19:29 |
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owen |
The hybrid version was the first test of the Zebra fast searching |
| 19:30 |
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owen |
...And since Koha is open source, anyone can offer any customized version that they want! |
| 19:31 |
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CGI828 |
Oh, okay, so Liblime truly isn't building unique capabilities, they truly just do services. Its weird that their website currently describes their products as being capable of doing all this stuff. So it seems it's ready to go, they don't indicate that it's just a preview. |
| 19:32 |
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owen |
Liblime does build unique capabilities into Koha, but they integrate those capabilities into the official release |
| 19:32 |
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owen |
So you might hire them to develop a feature that your library wants, and when they're done with it the feature will be added to the official Koha version. |
| 19:32 |
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CGI828 |
Do you guys get that version, and make it downloadable on Koha.org? |
| 19:32 |
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owen |
Yes, ultimately. |
| 19:33 |
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owen |
But you might have to wait until the next major release to get those new features, unless you're installing the development version |
| 19:33 |
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owen |
Anyone with the technical skills can download and install the development version, which has all the latest features (and the latest bugs) |
| 19:34 |
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CGI828 |
So there is a lag time between Koha and Liblime on swapping and incorporating features? I guess I'm trying to figure out who has the latest downloadable version. Sorry for the dumb questions. |
| 19:35 |
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owen |
Koha.org has the latest official release. If you want the latest development version (including the latest features added by Liblime and all the other Koha developers), you have to access it through the version-control system..and there it gets pretty technical. |
| 19:36 |
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owen |
And by official release, I mean a version that has been classified as stable and ready for production use |
| 19:36 |
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CGI828 |
Uh, okay. :) So, the latest for Windows platform is 2.2.8? which is not classified as stable? 2.2 is considered the latest stable? Will 3.0 be classified as stable? |
| 19:37 |
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owen |
2.2.8 is considered stable. When 3.0 is officially released, it will be considered stable. But not until that official release. |
| 19:37 |
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CGI828 |
Will 3.0 work on Windows platform? |
| 19:39 |
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owen |
I don't know. I know there are lots of folks who are interested in getting Koha to work on Windows, so I'm assuming they'll try to make it happen. |
| 19:39 |
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owen |
Windows releases always lag behind the regular official release |
| 19:40 |
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CGI828 |
Okay, thanks very much for your help. I may be back again to ask more questions. Have a great weekend! |
| 19:49 |
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fbcit |
gmcharlt: I found an error in the patch I sent you earlier... |
| 19:49 |
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gmcharlt |
ok -- will you resend it? |
| 19:49 |
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fbcit |
1 sec |
| 19:53 |
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fbcit |
gmcharlt: I sent a patch to add the correction. |
| 19:53 |
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fbcit |
it applies over the first I sent |
| 19:53 |
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fbcit |
sorry |
| 19:55 |
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gmcharlt |
no problem |
| 20:47 |
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owen |
fbcit, it's time like these when you wonder about conputers' supposed time-saving qualities |
| 21:04 |
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fbcit |
owen: computers only serve to deepen the delusion that we can get more done in the same amount of time... |
| 21:05 |
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fbcit |
the problem is that the problems they introduce consume any real time they save... ;-) |
| 21:05 |
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fbcit |
so expectation is raised while resources either stay the same or are reduced. |
| 21:09 |
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fbcit |
hehe |
| 21:15 |
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ryan |
owen: is class=warning|error the only standardised way of presenting errors ? |
| 21:16 |
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ryan |
owen: i need to do a couple permissions changes... |
| 21:17 |
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ryan |
e.g., permissions on editing a user who has 'permissions' privilege when you only have 'borrowers' permission |
| 21:19 |
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owen |
ryan: I haven't really standardized the styling of warnings/errors/messages yet |
| 21:20 |
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owen |
It's one of those things on my to-do list |
| 21:20 |
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ryan |
i don't want to have to reload same page on partial failure |
| 21:21 |
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owen |
I'm not sure what you mean |
| 21:21 |
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ryan |
in the example above, |
| 21:22 |
|
ryan |
a circ staff edits a higher-priv staff borrower |
| 21:22 |
|
ryan |
submits the form-- |
| 21:22 |
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ryan |
rather than reload the same edit page, it makes more sense to me to return to member dtails |
| 21:23 |
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ryan |
but show a msg saying 'password update' failed |
| 21:23 |
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ryan |
as opposed to 'too short password', which should stay on edit page |
| 21:23 |
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ryan |
make sense ? |
| 21:31 |
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owen |
Yes, that makes sense |
| 21:35 |
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owen |
ryan, I'd use <div class="error"> for that |
| 21:37 |
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ryan |
yep |
| 21:38 |
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ryan |
owen: i'll place at top of <div class="yui-g"> . You can make whatever changes from there |
| 21:40 |
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ryan |
will that cause any problems btwn yui-g and yui-u_first ? |
| 21:41 |
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owen |
yui-g is the container for the yui-u divs, which are the columns |
| 21:41 |
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owen |
It might be better to put it outside yui-g if you can, I'm not sure what will happen |
| 21:41 |
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owen |
...happen otherwise, I mean |
| 21:42 |
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ryan |
ok |
