Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
12:31 |
|
owen |
Hi #koha |
12:46 |
|
kados |
morning owen |
12:46 |
|
kados |
owen: how was your weekend? |
12:46 |
|
owen |
Fine, thanks. Back at home base now? |
12:48 |
|
kados |
hehe, I wish ... I'm in Miami this week |
12:48 |
|
owen |
FL? |
12:48 |
|
kados |
today I have 'off' which basically means I'll be cooped up in my hotel room programming |
12:48 |
|
kados |
yea, Maimi FL |
12:48 |
|
kados |
got some meetings this week hereabout |
12:49 |
|
kados |
later in the week, MN, and then I'm back home on Sat for a while |
12:49 |
|
kados |
whew! |
12:49 |
|
owen |
I was going to suggest taking your laptop to the beach, but Google says you've got rain today |
12:49 |
|
kados |
yea, weather's not the greatest |
12:49 |
|
kados |
still kinda neat to be in FL though :-) |
12:49 |
|
kados |
it's fairly warm |
12:50 |
|
owen |
I've got an interface idea to run by you |
12:50 |
|
owen |
Should we disable the 'issue to' form field when the patron is restricted? |
12:50 |
|
kados |
good question ... |
12:51 |
|
kados |
yea, makes sense |
12:51 |
|
kados |
rather than just fail when they scan it |
12:51 |
|
owen |
That's what I was thinking |
12:52 |
|
owen |
For that matter, maybe the messages/warnings column expands to replace the issue column in the layout? |
12:52 |
|
owen |
...Since you can really do anything until you take care of whatever is blocking the account? |
12:53 |
|
kados |
yea, that also makes sense |
12:53 |
|
owen |
Okay, I'll experiment with that |
12:59 |
|
kados |
brb |
13:32 |
|
kados |
hdl: you around? |
13:33 |
|
kados |
hdl: there's some code in the template like "TMPL_IF NAME="9523a" ... for sorting |
13:33 |
|
paul |
hi kados |
13:35 |
|
hdl |
kados ? |
13:35 |
|
kados |
hi guys |
13:36 |
|
kados |
<!--TMPL_IF Name="9523d"--> |
13:36 |
|
kados |
<option value="1=9523 <i" selected="selected">Popularity (Least to Most)</option> |
13:36 |
|
kados |
<!--TMPL_ELSE --> |
13:36 |
|
kados |
this code ... doesn't seem to work |
13:36 |
|
kados |
ie, it never shows up as selected |
13:36 |
|
kados |
I'm planning to fix that now |
13:37 |
|
paul |
(kados : a quick question = how many liblimers are there today ? 10 ? 12 ? ) |
13:37 |
|
kados |
hdl: I just want to confirm it's not working for you, right? |
13:38 |
|
kados |
paul: 12 full-timers I think |
13:38 |
|
paul |
(it's for a press release to announce birth of BibLibre. I want to say that we are 3 in France, and you are already 12 on your side, all of us being equally involved in Koha) |
13:38 |
|
kados |
cool |
13:39 |
|
hdl |
OK. |
13:40 |
|
hdl |
This seems to disable 9523 when 9523 is not defined in bib1.att |
13:42 |
|
kados |
really? |
13:42 |
|
kados |
disable, as in it doesn't show up? |
13:52 |
|
kados |
hdl: also, it seems that my distinction between koha query, machine-readable query, and searchdesc have been muddied |
13:52 |
|
kados |
I'll also be fixing that today |
13:58 |
|
hdl |
kados : this distinction was not clearly used in templates. |
13:59 |
|
hdl |
I did my best to keep things working. |
14:00 |
|
hdl |
But I also think that having "human readable" search description is both important but not so easy to get. |
14:04 |
|
kados |
I'll do my best to get this working |
14:04 |
|
kados |
I've also resurected facets |
14:04 |
|
paul |
kados ++ |
14:05 |
|
kados |
http://staff-jmf.dev.kohalibra[…]e/search.pl?q=the |
14:05 |
|
kados |
resort working |
14:05 |
|
kados |
facets almost working |
14:06 |
|
kados |
one thing I could use advice on |
14:06 |
|
paul |
kados : shouldn't we remove the numbers in the facets ? |
14:06 |
|
kados |
in the advsearch.tmpl there is a section for 'TMPL_IF NAME=UNIMARC' |
14:06 |
|
kados |
that has some french language strings |
14:06 |
|
kados |
I think the translator will be confused |
14:07 |
|
kados |
paul: perhaps, yes |
14:07 |
|
paul |
because our libraries are VERY confused to see "branch (3)" and, when clicking, getting 10, 100 or even 1000 results ! |
14:07 |
|
kados |
paul: although we may be able to get the facets from zebra, with a valid count from teh result set |
14:07 |
|
kados |
paul: I am investigating this still |
14:07 |
|
paul |
yep, I remember you asked indexdata about the cost |
14:07 |
|
kados |
*nod* |
14:07 |
|
hdl |
kados : have you seen my email ? and how I did this ? |
14:07 |
|
kados |
it's $15,000 if I don't mind ... but I think i can do it with scan-> |
14:08 |
|
kados |
hdl: no, I must have missed it |
14:08 |
|
kados |
did you figure out a way? |
14:08 |
|
hdl |
scan will give you only the 10 first results |
14:08 |
|
hdl |
no matter their weight. |
14:08 |
|
kados |
ahh |
14:08 |
|
hdl |
And this really is a pain in the neck. |
14:08 |
|
kados |
yep |
14:09 |
|
hdl |
unless you know a way to ask for the most relevant search results pqf ? |
14:09 |
|
kados |
I don't know, I haven't gotten to examining it yet, just had an idea while showering :-) |
14:09 |
|
kados |
I will take a look today |
14:10 |
|
hdl |
resort didn't work ? |
14:10 |
|
kados |
but if you have an idea for the UNIMARC issues |
14:10 |
|
kados |
hdl: resort should work now |
14:10 |
|
hdl |
Is it pushed ? |
14:10 |
|
kados |
not yet |
14:10 |
|
kados |
http://staff-jmf.dev.kohalibra[…]sort_by=author_az |
14:10 |
|
kados |
http://staff-jmf.dev.kohalibra[…]sort_by=author_za |
14:10 |
|
kados |
seems to work well |
14:11 |
|
kados |
er? now it's not working ... |
14:11 |
|
hdl |
are you not using 1=2 >i |
14:12 |
|
hdl |
in sort_by parameters ? |
14:12 |
|
kados |
ahh, yes, it's working |
14:12 |
|
kados |
hdl: yes, but I do it in Search.pm now |
14:12 |
|
kados |
hdl: it's too hard to remember the numbers :-) |
14:12 |
|
kados |
hdl: so we have string value that maps to the numbers in search.pm |
14:13 |
|
kados |
I think I will need to updateNoZebra too |
14:13 |
|
kados |
paul: hdl did you know changelanguage doesn't work on the staff client? |
14:13 |
|
kados |
(look for English / Fransais at bottom of page) |
14:13 |
|
hdl |
In koha 22 it was the case. |
14:13 |
|
kados |
it sets the cookie, but the staff client ignores the cookie for some reason |
14:14 |
|
kados |
it should be a simple fix, no? |
14:14 |
|
paul |
no, I didn't knew that. all our libraries just need french (on staff) ;-) |
14:14 |
|
kados |
hehe |
14:14 |
|
paul |
probably. |
14:14 |
|
hdl |
anyway, hopefully, staff will not change languages too often. |
14:15 |
|
kados |
so what shall I do about the TMPL_IF NAME=UNIMARC in the template? |
14:15 |
|
kados |
the advsearch.tmpl ? |
14:16 |
|
hdl |
paul ? |
14:17 |
|
paul |
the best solution would be to have those strings in english in the template |
14:17 |
|
paul |
and let the translator handle the french version. |
14:17 |
|
paul |
but I couldn't find time to do that |
14:17 |
|
hdl |
This should also be the case for all UNIMARC plugins. |
14:17 |
|
paul |
yep |
14:18 |
|
hdl |
I can do this for advsearch.tmpl |
14:18 |
|
kados |
could it make sense to have a separate template for advsearch for UNIMARC? |
14:18 |
|
hdl |
Question is : will it work fine for all the zebra and nonzebra installations ?? |
14:18 |
|
paul |
kados: I don't think so |
14:19 |
|
paul |
(because unimarc english could be interesting) |
14:19 |
|
kados |
right |
14:19 |
|
kados |
and in fact, that's something else we need to discuss re: installer |
14:19 |
|
paul |
right ! |
14:19 |
|
hdl |
We could do TMPL_INCLUDE ? |
14:19 |
|
kados |
I have UNIMARC english frameworks that I wnt to include |
14:19 |
|
kados |
in 3.0 |
14:19 |
|
kados |
hdl: ahh, good idea |
14:19 |
|
kados |
hdl: I'll do it as an include |
14:20 |
|
kados |
for now, and you can translate it when you have time |
14:22 |
|
kados |
next question ... how does TMPL_IF NAME=UNIMARC even get set? |
14:23 |
|
paul |
(but would be VERY easy to introduce) |
14:24 |
|
kados |
ok, that's done |
14:24 |
|
kados |
hdl: so w/respect to the installer |
14:25 |
|
kados |
hdl: do you have an idea for how to allow a UNIMARC/MARC21/XXMARC choice? |
14:25 |
|
kados |
because I have some english UNIMARC frameworks I'd really like to include |
14:25 |
|
kados |
(and it means I can test in UNIMARC too ;-)) |
14:25 |
|
paul |
kados : in french, we have divided directories differently than you |
14:26 |
|
kados |
ahh, really ... can you explain? |
14:26 |
|
paul |
it's not mandatory/ optionnal / ??? |
14:26 |
|
paul |
it's mandatory / public library / research library |
14:26 |
|
kados |
interesting |
14:26 |
|
paul |
of course, someone could clic on unconsistent values in PL & RL, but that would look idiot to anyone. |
14:27 |
|
paul |
so, you could have "mandatory / unimarc / usmarc" in english |
14:27 |
|
hdl |
Nope. |
14:27 |
|
kados |
I think frameworks are mandatory ... |
14:27 |
|
paul |
and explain "if you choose something in unimarc, then forget usmarc" |
14:27 |
|
kados |
and it's a global setting right now |
14:27 |
|
hdl |
Because one marcflavour is mandatory. |
14:27 |
|
kados |
hdl: right |
14:27 |
|
kados |
we need the user to choose |
14:28 |
|
kados |
what if we had: |
14:28 |
|
kados |
data/en/frameworks |
14:28 |
|
kados |
data/en/mandatory |
14:28 |
|
kados |
data/en/etc |
14:28 |
|
kados |
and in frameworks we had two types: |
14:28 |
|
kados |
marc21_ |
14:28 |
|
kados |
unimarc_ |
14:28 |
|
kados |
and the user only sees the type he has picked |
14:28 |
|
kados |
? |
14:29 |
|
paul |
it would be harder to add XXXmarc or marcYYY |
14:30 |
|
kados |
true |
14:30 |
|
kados |
maybe a directory then? |
14:30 |
|
kados |
installer/data/en/marc21/ |
14:30 |
|
kados |
installer/data/en/unimarc/ |
14:30 |
|
hdl |
no. |
14:31 |
|
kados |
what then? :-) |
14:31 |
|
hdl |
frameworks should be separated from other data. |
14:31 |
|
hdl |
installer/data/en/frameworks/marc21/ |
14:31 |
|
kados |
ok |
14:31 |
|
kados |
I can live with that :-) |
14:32 |
|
hdl |
then the user should have radio button for framework choice. |
14:32 |
|
kados |
hdl: will it be hard to add that to the installer? |
14:33 |
|
hdl |
Not so hard. |
14:33 |
|
hdl |
But i must find the right place. |
14:34 |
|
hdl |
because one should do framework choice before all the sql values are loaded. |
14:34 |
|
kados |
right |
14:34 |
|
kados |
hdl++ |
14:40 |
|
paul |
kados : i have a question about "default searchon kw-wrdl |
14:40 |
|
paul |
you have reverted my 2nd patch, but not the 1st one. |
14:40 |
|
paul |
now, a lot of search features don't work anymore. |
14:41 |
|
paul |
but if we revert my 1st patch, the search forms on top won't do kw,wrdl search and truncations don't work |
14:41 |
|
paul |
so, we have a problem ;-) |
14:41 |
|
paul |
and I don't know how to solve it ! |
14:42 |
|
kados |
hmmm |
14:42 |
|
kados |
first, the default search shoudl be "", not kw,wrdl |
14:42 |
|
kados |
I've fixed that, but not pushed up yet |
14:43 |
|
kados |
do you expect to do truncation with every query? |
14:43 |
|
paul |
nope, only if the user enter truncation wildcard |
14:43 |
|
paul |
but hdl did it only on wrdl, which is logic I think |
14:43 |
|
kados |
what is the truncation wildcard? |
14:43 |
|
paul |
* |
14:43 |
|
kados |
ok, I will need to test this |
14:44 |
|
paul |
potte* will find potter & pottery |
14:44 |
|
paul |
*tter will find potter & hatter |
14:44 |
|
paul |
??? |
14:44 |
|
kados |
http://staff-jmf.dev.kohalibra[…]?q=testing+biblio |
14:44 |
|
kados |
testing biblio finds test biblio |
14:45 |
|
kados |
I see truncation isnt' working on mine |
14:45 |
|
kados |
I'll test |
14:45 |
|
paul |
I confirm it doesn't work |
14:46 |
|
paul |
http://i11.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]ort_by=&do=Search |
14:46 |
|
paul |
find egyptien & egyptologie as expected |
14:47 |
|
paul |
kados : adv search "default" search is on keyword, kw,wrdl. don't you expect the top forms to be the same ? our libraries really think it is. |
14:49 |
|
paul |
(on this link, click on page 2, and you 'll see the bug introduced by the 1st commit patched by the 2nd one you've reverted) |
14:53 |
|
rh |
should the "z3950servers" table be populated or does it get populated on the fly when you do a search? |
14:54 |
|
hdl |
rh : it should be populated. |
14:54 |
|
rh |
okay mine is empty.. does that mean i screwed something up during install? |
14:54 |
|
hdl |
(it is up to the librarian to know from which sources he wants to get biblios) |
14:55 |
|
rh |
ah |
14:55 |
|
rh |
oh so that is something that I need to add manually |
14:59 |
|
rh |
oh i see there is a handy form in the gui |
15:16 |
|
kados |
hdl: so you have: |
15:16 |
|
kados |
if (index($index,"phr")<0 && index($index,",")>0){ |
15:16 |
|
kados |
# if the operator contains more than one qualifier, but not phrase |
15:16 |
|
kados |
that's when you apply truncation? |
15:16 |
|
kados |
paul: is that right? |
15:16 |
|
hdl |
yes. |
15:17 |
|
hdl |
maybe we could apply also when no qualifier defined. |
15:17 |
|
hdl |
But would be a problem |
15:17 |
|
kados |
why not just turn on the right-truncation for every query? |
15:18 |
|
hdl |
because one could enter ccl=ti=atata and au,phr=zzmzm |
15:18 |
|
hdl |
No. |
15:18 |
|
hdl |
This is not what our users expect (in Intranet) |
15:18 |
|
kados |
what I mean is, add the right-truncation qualifier to every query |
15:18 |
|
kados |
not add * to every query |
15:19 |
|
kados |
it does nothing if you don't have * defined, right? |
15:19 |
|
hdl |
I understood what you said. |
15:19 |
|
kados |
(the other way to acomplish this right-truncation is with regex ... it might be the better way) |
15:19 |
|
hdl |
But librarians donot expect truncation to happen on any query. |
15:20 |
|
hdl |
(regex seems to be time consuming on zebra) |
15:20 |
|
kados |
(ok) |
15:20 |
|
kados |
hmmm |
15:21 |
|
hdl |
And my opinion is that what i did provide users with great fexibility. |
15:22 |
|
hdl |
and allow them both truncated and non truncated search. |
15:22 |
|
kados |
yep, I agree |
15:22 |
|
kados |
but it breaks the field weighting, stemming and fuzzy stuff |
15:22 |
|
kados |
so I'm looking at how to make it work |
15:23 |
|
kados |
one issue is that the variables change hands so often I'm not sure where the right ones are :-) |
15:24 |
|
kados |
so you split the $operand into a @wordlist |
15:24 |
|
kados |
but that will certainly break multi-leaf queries |
15:24 |
|
kados |
what if the $operand itself is a full query? |
15:24 |
|
hdl |
Can you explain field weighting? in some details ? |
15:25 |
|
kados |
field weighting ranks results according to where they are found and how ... so if an exact title, it gets a high score, if an exact author, less high score, etc. |
15:27 |
|
kados |
hdl: for instance: |
15:27 |
|
kados |
http://staff-jmf.dev.kohalibra[…]e/search.pl?q=the |
15:27 |
|
kados |
hdl: without field weighting, exact title 'the' would not be the first result |
15:28 |
|
kados |
hdl: these two features are compatible with each other |
15:28 |
|
kados |
hdl: with some minor changes ... I'm working on it now |
15:29 |
|
hdl |
how is it calculated ? |
15:29 |
|
kados |
it's done with the r1,r2,r3 stuff ... a query is parsed and turned into a multi-leaf query |
15:29 |
|
kados |
rk = ( |
15:29 |
|
kados |
some stuff |
15:29 |
|
kados |
) |
15:30 |
|
hdl |
kados : if $operand itself is a full query |
15:30 |
|
hdl |
then index should be null. |
15:31 |
|
kados |
nope, not according to CCL syntax |
15:31 |
|
kados |
dev_week supports hiararchical nesting of queries |
15:31 |
|
hdl |
can you give user examples ? |
15:31 |
|
kados |
so a whole query can be an operand and there can be an operator and qualifiers on it |
15:31 |
|
kados |
facets are a good example |
15:32 |
|
hdl |
but facets are calculated and not user based. |
15:33 |
|
kados |
ok, I found this example: |
15:33 |
|
kados |
if (scalar(@righttruncated)+scalar(@lefttruncated)+scalar(@rightlefttruncated)>0){ |
15:33 |
|
kados |
s/example/code/ |
15:33 |
|
kados |
$query.= "$index: @nontruncated " if (scalar(@nontruncated)>0); |
15:33 |
|
kados |
how is @nontruncated evaluated there, as a scalar or an array? |
15:34 |
|
hdl |
(One thing that strikes me is that facet order is never the same.) |
15:34 |
|
hdl |
array |
15:34 |
|
hdl |
index is assumed to be wordlist. |
15:34 |
|
hdl |
and puts the words behind. |
15:35 |
|
hdl |
index : |
15:35 |
|
hdl |
au,wrdl: Hugo Victor |
15:35 |
|
hdl |
print @list |
15:35 |
|
kados |
au,wrdl: Hugo* Victor* ? |
15:35 |
|
hdl |
will print "$list[0] $list[1]" |
15:36 |
|
hdl |
no. |
15:36 |
|
kados |
or do you use ? |
15:36 |
|
kados |
instead of * |
15:36 |
|
hdl |
I use rtrn, ltrn and lrtrn zebra attributes. |
15:37 |
|
hdl |
@nontruncated is for non truncated words. |
15:37 |
|
hdl |
@righttruncated is for right truncated words (Vic*) |
15:37 |
|
hdl |
@lefttruncated left truncated words (*tor) |
15:38 |
|
hdl |
I remove any * |
15:38 |
|
hdl |
and adds the good qualifier to indexes. |
15:38 |
|
hdl |
ltrn |
15:38 |
|
hdl |
rtrn |
15:38 |
|
hdl |
lrtrn |
15:38 |
|
hdl |
I didnot process real regular expressions. |
15:39 |
|
hdl |
I considered then that librarian would know how to write a ccl expression. |
15:40 |
|
hdl |
ccl=au,regexp-1=Ba[c|h]+ |
15:40 |
|
kados |
right |
15:40 |
|
kados |
in fact, this works well for non-field-weighted queries: |
15:40 |
|
kados |
http://staff-jmf.dev.kohalibra[…]search.pl?q=libl* |
15:41 |
|
kados |
well, almost: |
15:41 |
|
kados |
http://staff-jmf.dev.kohalibra[…]search.pl?q=*lime |
15:41 |
|
kados |
:( |
15:42 |
|
kados |
better: |
15:42 |
|
kados |
http://staff-jmf.dev.kohalibra[…]search.pl?q=*lime |
15:42 |
|
hdl |
you should have then q=kw,wrdl,rtrn=libl |
15:42 |
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kados |
@attrset Bib-1 @attr 5=2 lime |
15:43 |
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kados |
addinfo: "Both left - and right truncation not supported |
15:43 |
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kados |
zebra it seems can't do both left and right truncation |
15:43 |
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kados |
maybe you have a newer version? |
15:44 |
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hdl |
2.0.18 |
15:45 |
|
kados |
2.0.14 |
15:45 |
|
hdl |
But I think that you have tright truncation activated by default. |
15:45 |
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hdl |
I donot. |
15:46 |
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kados |
hmmm, I don't think I do |
15:46 |
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kados |
nope |
15:46 |
|
kados |
well, if you enable field-weighting AND stemming |
15:46 |
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hdl |
ltrn and rtrn are exclusives. |
15:46 |
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kados |
the stemmed operand will be right-truncated |
15:48 |
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kados |
hdl: I think with field-weighting off, your code is preserved |
15:48 |
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kados |
hdl: on my installation |
15:48 |
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kados |
(currently it's turned off, so you can test if I'm right) |
15:49 |
|
kados |
but with field weighting turned off: |
15:49 |
|
kados |
http://staff-jmf.dev.kohalibra[…]o+be+or+not+to+be |
15:49 |
|
kados |
failes |
15:49 |
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kados |
:-) |
15:49 |
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kados |
we need a query parser :/ |
15:50 |
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hdl |
Is this a zebra error a ccl error ? |
15:51 |
|
kados |
it's an unbalanced query |
15:51 |
|
kados |
to be OR NOT to be |
15:51 |
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kados |
if you send it directly to zebra it will fail of course |
15:53 |
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hdl |
results of scan indexes are unwelcoming. |
15:54 |
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hdl |
Do you use stemming or fieldweighting for to be or not to be ? |
15:54 |
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kados |
if I enable field weighting, it works |
15:55 |
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kados |
I can show you, just a sec |
15:55 |
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kados |
owen: bug 1520 is a frameworks thing |
15:55 |
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kados |
owen: those fields are there, they're probably just set to 'hidden' |
15:55 |
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owen |
Okay, cool. |
15:55 |
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kados |
owen: check the MARC framework in 952 to see if I'm right |
15:55 |
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kados |
hdl: http://staff-jmf.dev.kohalibra[…]o+be+or+not+to+be |
15:58 |
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kados |
huh, wonder why the itemtype icons don't display for those results |
16:05 |
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hdl |
itemtype icons havenot been displayed for the whole day. |
16:05 |
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hdl |
what does zebra query look like ? |
16:06 |
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kados |
I'm going to have to dig deeper, some things are failing here |
16:06 |
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kados |
hdl: I'll let you work on installer, I'll fix the searching :-) |
16:07 |
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paul |
kados : just to let you know : http://www.biblibre.com/ launched this morning |
16:07 |
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paul |
MUCH less appealing that www.liblime.com ;-) |
16:08 |
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paul |
but hopefullty efficient & easy to use for future customers. |
16:08 |
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paul |
(+ french librarians won't probably enjoy some of the typically US enthusiasm that are on www.biblibre.com) |
16:09 |
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paul |
(for example, the guy on the main page that seem to fly due to the speed of koha zoom would probably be very unliked by most librarians) |
16:09 |
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kados |
paul, hdl: congrats! |
16:10 |
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paul |
(picture probably considered as not "serious as a librarian should be" :-D ) |
16:10 |
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kados |
looks nice, paul |
16:10 |
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kados |
(french librarins are different than 'wild' US ones I guess ;-)) |
16:11 |
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paul |
liblime = "jeu de mot". bibLibre = jeu de mot as well. means "freelibrary". the left page of the book logo being also a bird with the yellow L |
16:11 |
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paul |
book = library / bird = freeness |
16:11 |
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paul |
(pictures @ me, from the SAN-OP library ;-) ) |
16:13 |
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kados |
cool |
16:17 |
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paul |
kados / hdl : i've reverted the 1st part of the kw,wrdl search reverted. no more problems, except the one that we had before : |
16:18 |
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paul |
http://o11.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]koha/opac-main.pl |
16:18 |
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kados |
paul: do a search on 'to be or not to be' |
16:18 |
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paul |
search "egyp*" on main search => 10 results |
16:18 |
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paul |
http://o11.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]ha/opac-search.pl |
16:18 |
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kados |
paul: yep, the problem is, the revert means your stuff works, but mine doesn't :-=) |
16:19 |
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kados |
paul: I'm working on a solution for all features to work :-) |
16:19 |
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kados |
paul: so hang tight :-) |
16:19 |
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paul |
ok, so I let you the ball ;-) |
16:19 |
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kados |
:) |
16:20 |
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kados |
hehe |
16:20 |
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kados |
on your installation? |
16:20 |
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kados |
or on mine? |
16:20 |
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paul |
on your |
16:20 |
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kados |
ahh, on mine :-) |
16:20 |
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kados |
hehe |
16:20 |
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kados |
funny book title |
16:23 |
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hdl |
I recveived some information from Mike Taylor. |
16:24 |
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hdl |
And facets could certainly result from scans operations. |
16:27 |
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hdl |
But there is still the problem of relevancy sorting. |
16:31 |
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kados |
I'll look at that later today |
16:49 |
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17:14 |
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gmcharlt |
hi paul |
17:14 |
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paul |
hi gmcharlt |
17:14 |
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gmcharlt |
translation question for you |
17:14 |
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paul |
(it's almost time to leave for me, just in case you have a long question :-) ) |
17:14 |
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gmcharlt |
short, hopefully |
17:14 |
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gmcharlt |
working on a template that includes a record status |
17:15 |
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gmcharlt |
is there a way in the TMPL code to say use a particular translation table |
17:15 |
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gmcharlt |
rather than a bunch of TMPL_IFs |
17:15 |
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paul |
not sure to understand your question. |
17:16 |
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gmcharlt |
OK, let's say the record status field has three values 1, 2, 3 |
17:16 |
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gmcharlt |
which correspond to English display "good", "bad", and "ugly" |
17:16 |
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gmcharlt |
is there an easy way to say |
17:16 |
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gmcharlt |
when mapping such a status to display values |
17:16 |
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paul |
don't you use authorised_values ? |
17:16 |
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gmcharlt |
"please use this external table of mappings from my coded values to strings" |
17:17 |
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gmcharlt |
could, I suppose, but for the field in question (which is a non-MARC field), user cannot and should not edit the lists of statuses |
17:17 |
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gmcharlt |
except for the display lables, I suppose |
17:18 |
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paul |
I don't think there is a simple solution to this question. At least, I don't see one |
17:19 |
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gmcharlt |
OK. I'll keep it in mind -- maybe at some point it would be worth the effort to create such a solution to aid translating some parts of the interface |
17:20 |
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gmcharlt |
thanks, paul |
17:20 |
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paul |
your welcome |
17:57 |
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fbcit |
kados:hi |
17:57 |
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kados |
hiya fbcit |
17:57 |
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fbcit |
kados: I'm back to the point where I need MARC::File::XML & XML::RSS, however... |
17:58 |
|
fbcit |
apt seems to have issues connecting to the berkeley server |
17:58 |
|
fbcit |
although I can browse to it... |
17:59 |
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kados |
hmmm, your outbount port 80 isn't being proxied on your server, is it? |
17:59 |
|
fbcit |
so apt will not install libxml-rss-perl |
17:59 |
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fbcit |
no I permit all outbound traffic from this ip across the firewall. |
17:59 |
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kados |
hmmm, very strange |
18:00 |
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kados |
try apt-get update |
18:00 |
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fbcit |
that blows chunks too. |
18:00 |
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fbcit |
I was able to apt install libxml-libxml-perl... |
18:01 |
|
fbcit |
Failed to fetch http://linux.csua.berkeley.edu[…]/etch/Release.gpg Could not connect to linux.csua.berkeley.edu:80 (169.229.49.36). - connect (101 Network is unreachable) |
18:01 |
|
fbcit |
etc.. |
18:01 |
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kados |
hmmm |
18:01 |
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fbcit |
apt does fine with ftp.indexdata.dk |
18:01 |
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kados |
sounds like that target is down |
18:02 |
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kados |
I'd find another apt source |
18:02 |
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kados |
I think ftp.debian.org is one |
18:02 |
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fbcit |
I figured it might be down to although I can browse through the dir structure w/firefox. |
18:03 |
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fbcit |
I'll add debian.org... |
19:31 |
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hdl |
kados : patch on your way. |
19:38 |
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kados |
hdl: thanks |
19:56 |
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fbcit |
kados: I went ahead with a reinstall via CPAN of MARC::File::XML. It fails on 'make test'... |
21:12 |
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chris |
hdl: you still about? |
21:13 |
|
chris |
can you tar amd gzip your patch and send again, the utf8 characters got killed by the mailer |
21:32 |
|
mj |
is there any place where I can download koha 3.0 beta's? |
21:33 |
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kados |
mj: yes, but wait about 10 minutes, it's broken at the moment ;-) |
21:33 |
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mj |
ok :) |
21:33 |
|
mj |
because at the homepage I only see 2.2.x downloads |
21:35 |
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kados |
mj: yep |
21:47 |
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hdl |
chris : on your way |
21:47 |
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hdl |
(patch coming) |
22:00 |
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[K] |
<darciliciousFreeNode> chris! congratulations! :) |
22:13 |
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chris |
thanks :) |
09:32 |
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hdl_away |
new install updates marcflavour on selection. |
09:33 |
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hdl |
So if you donot want to display an error on marcflavour insert when adding systempreferences, consider removing i from systempreferences if you have a marcflavour directory. |
09:34 |
|
hdl |
ERROR 1146 (42S02) at line 23: Table 'BSG.class_sort_rules' doesn't exist |
09:34 |
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hdl |
Other problem : class_sources. |
10:32 |
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kados |
hi hdl |
10:32 |
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kados |
hdl: I believe I removed the line from sysprefs.sql in the end dir |
10:32 |
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hdl |
hi kados : already up ? |
10:32 |
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kados |
hdl: where do you get that error with class_sources? |
10:32 |
|
kados |
yes, early day today :-) |
10:33 |
|
hdl |
I tried to complete the installation. |
10:33 |
|
kados |
hdl: did you get a chance to try the searching yet after updating? |
10:33 |
|
hdl |
I had this on third step |
10:33 |
|
hdl |
not yet. |
10:33 |
|
kados |
hmmm |
10:33 |
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kados |
owen also had trouble last night |
10:34 |
|
hdl |
Can't call method "param" on an undefined value at /home/hdl/Koha/Code/koha_dev/catalogue/search.pl line 190. |
10:34 |
|
hdl |
|
10:34 |
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kados |
3.00.00.012 is when class_sort_rules are created |
10:34 |
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hdl |
when searching particu* |
10:35 |
|
hdl |
I had the previous message |
10:35 |
|
kados |
if (C4::Context->preference("marcflavour") eq "UNIMARC" ) { |
10:35 |
|
kados |
$template->param('UNIMARC' => 1); |
10:35 |
|
kados |
} |
10:35 |
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kados |
that's line 190 |
10:35 |
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kados |
it should be moved down |
10:35 |
|
kados |
about 8 lines or so |
10:35 |
|
kados |
sorry ... |
10:36 |
|
kados |
it needs to go after get_template_and_user |
10:36 |
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kados |
(if I had a unimarc install I would have caught this :-)) |
10:37 |
|
kados |
hdl: working now? |
10:37 |
|
hdl |
yes. |
10:37 |
|
kados |
great! |
10:37 |
|
kados |
can you try something like : |
10:37 |
|
kados |
*someword* |
10:38 |
|
kados |
does right and left truncation work with zebra 2.0.18? |
10:38 |
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hdl |
su,wrdl:,rtrn:particu |
10:38 |
|
kados |
hmmm, that doesn't look right |
10:38 |
|
hdl |
Donot work for subjects. |
10:39 |
|
hdl |
you should concatenate before : |
10:39 |
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kados |
right |
10:40 |
|
hdl |
yes rightand left truncation work on zebra 2.0.18 |
10:40 |
|
kados |
how did you test this with subjects, from advsearch? |
10:40 |
|
hdl |
yes. |
10:40 |
|
hdl |
I chose Subject entry in advsearch |
10:41 |
|
hdl |
rltrn not working. |
10:43 |
|
kados |
I see the bug with :, |
10:43 |
|
kados |
line 758 |
10:45 |
|
kados |
ok, the index-based searches need work |
10:45 |
|
kados |
I see a couple bugs there |
10:45 |
|
kados |
I will work on this today |
10:46 |
|
kados |
hmmm, and my fixes to sorting were also removed :/ |
10:48 |
|
kados |
ahh, no, those are already fixed |
10:48 |
|
kados |
I was trying on a wrong demo :-) |
10:50 |
|
kados |
hdl: let me know if you find additional bugs |
10:50 |
|
kados |
hdl: I will try to fix them asap |
10:51 |
|
hdl |
OK. |
10:51 |
|
hdl |
Will do some testing. |
10:52 |
|
kados |
hdl++ |