| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 11:28 |
|
kyle |
kados, you around? |
| 12:57 |
|
kados |
kyle: am now |
| 12:57 |
|
kados |
kyle: what's up? |
| 13:05 |
|
owen |
Hi kados |
| 13:05 |
|
kados |
hiya owen |
| 13:07 |
|
owen |
kados, foxnorth: here's the ext toolbar test I put together: http://zivotdesign.com/examples/ext/menu.html |
| 13:08 |
|
owen |
None of the links work, of course, but you get the idea |
| 13:08 |
|
owen |
foxnorth: I was worrying about the fact that the buttons can't function like regular links, for the purpose of open in new tab, or whatever |
| 13:09 |
|
foxnorth |
very nice! |
| 13:09 |
|
foxnorth |
yeah, that is unfortunate! |
| 13:09 |
|
owen |
I don't know if there's a way around that or not. But then I remembered that in our current intranet those are form buttons which can't be right-clicked anyway, so maybe it's a non-issue |
| 13:09 |
|
foxnorth |
maybe not... |
| 13:13 |
|
owen |
foxnorth: I saw this ext forum post: http://extjs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12288 which leads me to believe there isn't a workaround (since it's being suggested as a feature request) |
| 13:14 |
|
kados |
owen: those look very slick |
| 13:15 |
|
kados |
owen: just looking at the page source, it doesn't appear they degrade very well, or is there something I'm missing? |
| 13:16 |
|
owen |
No, they don't degrade at all, without help. I'd have to have ext/jquery overwrite a hard-coded menu |
| 13:16 |
|
owen |
...which is what I was trying to do with the YUI menu anyway |
| 13:16 |
|
kados |
ahh |
| 13:16 |
|
owen |
One thing I'm not sure of is how picky ext is about changing the style of buttons and menus. For instance, if I play around with margins or padding, is the alignment of the menu dropdown going to get messed up? |
| 13:19 |
|
foxnorth |
that's a good question; i haven't tried playing around w/ the css at all |
| 13:27 |
|
hdl |
owen : I had a js error on your link : zivotdesign |
| 13:27 |
|
owen |
Sorry, I'm working on it just now |
| 13:27 |
|
owen |
Try now |
| 13:28 |
|
owen |
foxnorth: can I not add the same "iconCls:" to the menu items as I can with the toolbar items? |
| 13:28 |
|
kados |
owen: so the css triggers the whole thing? |
| 13:29 |
|
owen |
js |
| 13:29 |
|
foxnorth |
owen: hhmm i'd have to check the docs :) |
| 13:29 |
|
kados |
ahh, ok, I see |
| 13:29 |
|
kados |
ExtMenu.js |
| 13:30 |
|
hdl |
owen : translations may be quite messy if it is not possible to play with margins and so. |
| 13:30 |
|
kados |
ahh, yes, translations |
| 13:30 |
|
kados |
that's something to consider |
| 13:30 |
|
kados |
thanks hdl |
| 13:31 |
|
owen |
Does the translator work on linked js files? |
| 13:31 |
|
kados |
we'll have to test it I suppose |
| 13:31 |
|
paul |
hello world. |
| 13:31 |
|
kados |
hiya paul |
| 13:31 |
|
paul |
owen : what do you call "linked js files" ? |
| 13:31 |
|
hdl |
yes, as far as you have _( ) around the string to translate. |
| 13:32 |
|
owen |
I mean <script src="linked.js"></script> |
| 13:32 |
|
kados |
owen: yea, should |
| 13:32 |
|
paul |
(/me happy to have 2 DSL connexion at home : one for home one for business... the business one is broken since yesterday, but the home one works fine ;-) ) |
| 13:32 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 13:32 |
|
kyle |
kados: I'm almost finished with my Reserves work. Is it safe for me to just commit it to dev_week? |
| 13:33 |
|
kados |
hiya kyle |
| 13:33 |
|
kados |
good question |
| 13:33 |
|
hdl |
owen : maybe you would have to put a dummy gettext function in those files. |
| 13:33 |
|
kados |
kyle: best person to answer that would be ryan actually |
| 13:33 |
|
kyle |
From what I've been told, only npl and ccfls run dev_week. And npl does not use the reserves system. |
| 13:33 |
|
kados |
he's taken on the task of maintaining that version |
| 13:34 |
|
owen |
hdl: Embed the gettext function in the files themselves? |
| 13:34 |
|
kyle |
ok, I'll ask him. |
| 13:34 |
|
kados |
kyle: npl, stow, ccfls, barberton run dev_week |
| 13:34 |
|
hdl |
maybe. |
| 13:34 |
|
kyle |
heh, more than I expected ; ) |
| 13:34 |
|
kados |
kyle: he's just walked into the office, he should be at his desk in a few minutes |
| 13:34 |
|
owen |
npl's not getting a dev_week update, though, are we? |
| 13:34 |
|
kados |
(long night last night) |
| 13:34 |
|
kados |
owen: nope |
| 13:37 |
|
kados |
dbs: mornin |
| 13:37 |
|
dbs |
hey kados |
| 13:37 |
|
kyle |
kados: we would like to have an indicator that an item is on reserve from the circ catalog search. I think having the Reserves link say "Reserves (2)" if two people have reserved the item would be nice, but I don't know where to actually put the code. |
| 13:37 |
|
kados |
kyle: right |
| 13:38 |
|
kados |
kyle: I'll show you, just a sec |
| 13:40 |
|
kados |
kyle: you'll want to add it to the items_loop ref to hashrefs |
| 13:41 |
|
kyle |
can you point me to a particular file and line number? |
| 13:41 |
|
kados |
sure |
| 13:41 |
|
kados |
Search.pm |
| 13:41 |
|
kados |
3521 |
| 13:41 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 13:42 |
|
kados |
kyle: so you'll have to check if there's a lightweight enough function to pull out the count for you |
| 13:43 |
|
kados |
if all you need is the count, might make sense to just do a SQL one-liner |
| 13:43 |
|
kyle |
thanks. |
| 13:43 |
|
kyle |
Yeah, most of my work on Reserves2 are just additional subs and a few modificatinos to existing ones. |
| 13:44 |
|
kados |
sweet |
| 13:44 |
|
kyle |
I'll post a screenshot in a minute. |
| 13:45 |
|
kyle |
if I ever get Krita installed an downloaded ; \ Switched to Kubuntu Gutsy yesterday. |
| 13:45 |
|
kados |
actually, you'll want to do it like onloancount is done |
| 13:45 |
|
kados |
$onloan_count |
| 13:45 |
|
kados |
starting with 3524 |
| 13:46 |
|
kyle |
ok |
| 13:56 |
|
kados |
owen: so are you settled on the ext menu? |
| 13:57 |
|
owen |
I don't know. I still need to see how flexible it is to style. But the code seems a lot more straightforward to me. I also need to check out much the ext libraries weigh when configured correctly for what we need |
| 14:03 |
|
kados |
*nod* |
| 14:03 |
|
kados |
makes sense |
| 14:24 |
|
kyle |
New reserves snapshot: http://kylehall.info/index.php[…]es-system-update/ |
| 14:24 |
|
kyle |
let me know what you think |
| 14:24 |
|
kyle |
I still need to port it to the npl templates, but that will only take a few minutes. |
| 14:31 |
|
owen |
kyle that looks really great |
| 14:31 |
|
owen |
I love the "lock" idea |
| 14:31 |
|
owen |
We gotta get this stuff for 3.0! |
| 14:31 |
|
kyle |
thanks. |
| 14:32 |
|
kados |
owen: looks swank |
| 14:32 |
|
kyle |
Once I get the all clear to integrate it into dev_week, we can look at 3.0 integration. |
| 14:32 |
|
kados |
kyle++ |
| 14:33 |
|
owen |
By the way, kados, be sure to check out the generated source of that ext toolbar example. That's one of the other downsides of ext. |
| 14:33 |
|
kyle |
any idea when ryan might show up here? |
| 14:33 |
|
kados |
he's prolly around now |
| 14:35 |
|
ryan |
hi kyle |
| 14:36 |
|
ryan |
looks nice |
| 14:37 |
|
kyle |
Do you know if any of the libraries using dev_week are using the current reserves system? |
| 14:37 |
|
ryan |
kyle: yep |
| 14:37 |
|
ryan |
not sure if the item-level reserves stuff was committed. |
| 14:38 |
|
kyle |
Can you get clearance for me to commit my updates? I really don't know how this should work. |
| 14:40 |
|
ryan |
kyle: yes, everyone else has drifted from stock cvs |
| 14:40 |
|
ryan |
so np to commit |
| 14:40 |
|
ryan |
do you change the api ? |
| 14:40 |
|
ryan |
or tables ? |
| 14:41 |
|
kyle |
There are some new columns in the reserves table, and some new private and public subs. |
| 14:43 |
|
ryan |
cool - you'll add to updatedatebase ? |
| 14:43 |
|
kyle |
I'll give my code a good twice-over, clean up the docs, and commit it. |
| 14:43 |
|
kyle |
Yes, I'll add those new columns to updatedatabase. |
| 14:44 |
|
ryan |
great ... those are some nice features |
| 14:44 |
|
kyle |
question: does the current reserves system automatically e-mail people who have entered e-mail addresses? I couldn't find anything referencing it in Reserves2.pm |
| 14:45 |
|
kados |
kyle: no, I don't think that's ever made it into the general release |
| 14:45 |
|
kados |
kyle: but I can send you a patch that does that |
| 14:46 |
|
kados |
it's not really that impressive, it's a couple of lines in perl IIRC |
| 14:46 |
|
kyle |
Ok, I figured I'd do that. Jo from HLT also want's to be able to text message cell phones with reserve messages. That wouldn't be a problem if I could find a public API for texting. I think Yahoo might have one. |
| 14:46 |
|
kados |
tumer's already done that |
| 14:47 |
|
kyle |
I think I should add a prefs for borrowers so they can choose which ways to be contacted about various items. |
| 14:47 |
|
kados |
that code is in rel-TG |
| 14:47 |
|
kados |
kyle: yea, absolutely |
| 14:47 |
|
kyle |
That's cool. I'll check that out. |
| 14:47 |
|
kados |
kyle: I'd love to distinguish between global preferences, library preferences and user preferences |
| 14:48 |
|
kados |
pretty trivial enhancement, it's just the 'death by a thousand papercuts' thing :-) |
| 14:48 |
|
kyle |
You mean, have a default global for each, which is superceded by a default library pref, which is superceded by a user's prefs? |
| 14:48 |
|
kados |
kyle: exactly |
| 14:48 |
|
kyle |
Yeah, I know what you mean. |
| 14:49 |
|
kyle |
Maybe we should write Prefs.pm. |
| 14:49 |
|
kyle |
Have a standard interface for working with prefs. |
| 14:50 |
|
kados |
yea, well I'm pretty happy with C4::Context->preference for the global ones |
| 14:50 |
|
kados |
but we could look at splitting that stuff out into a separate module I suppose |
| 14:50 |
|
kyle |
seems to work well. |
| 14:50 |
|
kados |
the new session handling in 3.0 is another option I think |
| 14:51 |
|
kados |
the userenv can be arbitrarily expanded |
| 14:51 |
|
kados |
not based on tables like in 2.2 |
| 14:51 |
|
kyle |
A good pref manager for php is http://pear.php.net/package/Auth_PrefManager2 |
| 14:51 |
|
kyle |
Actually, http://pear.php.net/package/Auth_PrefManager is the stable version. |
| 14:52 |
|
kados |
the cool thing about using sessions is you can hot-copy the session data into a user's account, and easily copy it back to their session, merge it with other sessions, etc. |
| 14:52 |
|
kados |
CGI::Session++ |
| 14:52 |
|
kyle |
Something like it for perl would be great. |
| 14:52 |
|
kyle |
agreed. |
| 15:54 |
|
fbcit |
Are there plans to expand Koha to include the ability to track library fines? |
| 15:55 |
|
kados |
fbcit: ? |
| 15:55 |
|
kados |
fbcit: it's done that since version 1.0 8 years ago :=) |
| 15:56 |
|
fbcit |
kados: sorry. I typed before I looked.... :-( |
| 15:58 |
|
kados |
:) |
| 15:58 |
|
fbcit |
kados: We are looking to integrate a library management system with an accounting package so that fines are charged to student accounts. |
| 15:58 |
|
kados |
fbcit: which accounting package? |
| 15:59 |
|
fbcit |
kados: We are looking at LedgerSMB with some mods for non-profit. |
| 16:00 |
|
hdl |
kados ? did you receive my email ? |
| 16:00 |
|
fbcit |
kados: I'm not clear from the website or docs.... does Koha support PostgreSQL? |
| 16:01 |
|
kados |
fbcit: to use postgres you'd have to tweak some queries |
| 16:01 |
|
kados |
fbcit: we do use DBI, which has a driver for postgres |
| 16:01 |
|
kados |
but there are a few mysql specific queries still that would need to be adjusted |
| 16:01 |
|
kados |
fbcit: we humbly await your patch :-) |
| 16:02 |
|
fbcit |
kados: Ahh... I see it is in Perl... |
| 16:02 |
|
kados |
yup |
| 16:03 |
|
kados |
hdl: yes, I did |
| 16:03 |
|
kados |
hdl: sorry, haven't responded yet |
| 16:03 |
|
kados |
I'll look closely now |
| 16:03 |
|
fbcit |
kados: any estimate on the size of job doing the query convert would be? |
| 16:04 |
|
fbcit |
I've not looked at the code yet.... |
| 16:04 |
|
kados |
I dunno, maybe a few days |
| 16:04 |
|
hdl |
kados: it is just that if you want to ask some questions, we could now. |
| 16:04 |
|
kados |
for someone who knows the differences |
| 16:05 |
|
kados |
hdl: sure |
| 16:05 |
|
fbcit |
we just finished moving several apps from MSSQL to PostgreSQL... What could be more different than tsql and every other sql? :-) |
| 16:05 |
|
kados |
hdl: I'm wondering if we should just leave the issue of truncation to Zebra at the back end |
| 16:05 |
|
kados |
hdl: it handles right and left truncation natively |
| 16:06 |
|
kados |
fbcit: :-) |
| 16:06 |
|
kados |
fbcit: if you've done that already, it will likely be a cinch for your team |
| 16:06 |
|
kados |
fbcit: you'll want to nab the 3.0 version though |
| 16:06 |
|
kados |
fbcit: and get familiar with Git |
| 16:07 |
|
kados |
fbcit: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]lopment:git_usage |
| 16:07 |
|
fbcit |
kados: Ok. And I'm not familiar with Zebra though saw references to it on the website. |
| 16:07 |
|
kados |
yep, there is a zebra option and a no-zebra option |
| 16:08 |
|
kados |
fbcit: the no-zebra option is easy :-) |
| 16:08 |
|
fbcit |
the query times with zebra were impressive... |
| 16:08 |
|
fbcit |
what is it? (besides brother to a horse...) |
| 16:09 |
|
kados |
zebra is an indexing engine |
| 16:09 |
|
kados |
and yes, it's extremely fast |
| 16:15 |
|
fbcit |
kados:tnx. I'll have a look at the code over the next week. |
| 16:28 |
|
kados |
hdl: got a sec? |
| 16:28 |
|
kados |
hdl: we are hoping you can explain the practice of call numbers among your libraries |
| 16:28 |
|
kados |
hdl: which fields in the koha tables do they use for storage of call numbers at the biblioitem level? |
| 16:28 |
|
kados |
if any |
| 16:31 |
|
kados |
hdl: ? |
| 16:36 |
|
tnb |
paul: ? |
| 16:36 |
|
tnb |
hdl: ? |
| 16:36 |
|
tnb |
atz: hi joe! |
| 16:37 |
|
atz |
greets |
| 16:37 |
|
paul |
kados : they use dewey, or nothing (and only itemcallnumber) |
| 16:37 |
|
paul |
tnd : yes ? |
| 16:37 |
|
paul |
all : git-send-semail is no more in git 1.5.3.2 ??? |
| 16:38 |
|
atz |
for real? |
| 16:38 |
|
paul |
time to leave for frenchies... |
| 16:38 |
|
kados |
git-send-email ? |
| 16:38 |
|
paul |
atz : yes |
| 16:38 |
|
kados |
yowser |
| 16:38 |
|
paul |
unless i'm really really really tired... |
| 16:38 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 16:38 |
|
atz |
so what great new feature makes it worthwhile to upgrade to 1.5.3.2 then? |
| 16:39 |
|
kados |
I wonder if there's a new way to send email patches |
| 16:40 |
|
paul |
time to leave. I'll look later if someone has an explanation... |
| 16:40 |
|
kados |
09:39 < kados> did git-send-email get removed from 1.5.3.2 and is there an alternative utility? |
| 16:40 |
|
kados |
09:40 -!- arwed is now known as alley_cat |
| 16:40 |
|
kados |
09:40 < aroben> kados: it did not get removed |
| 16:40 |
|
kados |
paul_away: so looks like it's not removed :-) |
| 16:40 |
|
kados |
09:40 < kados> ahh, cool, thanks |
| 16:40 |
|
kados |
paul_away: you must be tired :-) |
| 17:10 |
|
tnb |
paul: when you have time, will you please send me a list of all the libraries you support in France? If we don't add those libraries as "koha users" to some of the US researcher websites, the Koha project is goign to continue to be under-represented. I'm happy to add them, but the users wiki is pretty out of date at this point |
| 17:11 |
|
kados |
tnb: I think paul has gone for the day |
| 17:11 |
|
kados |
tnb: best time to catch him is in the morning on EST |
| 17:11 |
|
tnb |
ok, good to know |
| 17:12 |
|
tnb |
do i remember correctly that an African library recently went live? |
| 17:12 |
|
kados |
sounds familiar |
| 17:12 |
|
kados |
can't rememeber which one thoug |
| 17:12 |
|
kados |
maybe look on the koha lists |
| 17:12 |
|
tnb |
yeah, i can't find it now :/ |
| 17:15 |
|
Frederic |
hello |
| 17:23 |
|
kados |
hiya Frederic |
| 17:26 |
|
tnb |
frederic: hi (This is Tina with LibLime). I see you didn't yet make it on the pay for support page on koha.org I actually don't have access right now to directly edit the website, but if you send your company info to rwg liblime.com, russel should be able to add you |
| 17:27 |
|
tnb |
seeing you name just reminded me! |
| 17:27 |
|
tnb |
your name |
| 17:27 |
|
tnb |
:) |
| 17:27 |
|
tnb |
Frederic: also, if you have any clients you'd like included in the 'koha users' lists, please let me know |
| 17:28 |
|
tnb |
we have several US researchers who track who is using Koha, so it benefits the project if I add any new libraries using Koha to those databases |
| 17:31 |
|
Frederic |
Hi Tina, I send a text to you June 16th... I will resend it. Thx. Feel free to accomate my idiom to English :) |
| 17:32 |
|
tnb |
ok, thanks Frederic! I'll forward your test to Russel so he can add it to the site |
| 17:34 |
|
Frederic |
hiya (?) Kados, |
| 17:34 |
|
Frederic |
Are you integrating YUI to Koha as JS and UI framework, or are you just picking up some pieces, mixing with other libraries (jQuery...)? |
| 17:34 |
|
kados |
hi |
| 17:34 |
|
kados |
Frederic: just pieces |
| 17:34 |
|
kados |
ajax and ui pieces |
| 17:35 |
|
Frederic |
Tnb: email sent... |
| 17:37 |
|
tnb |
great! |
| 17:37 |
|
Frederic |
YUI is a very powerfull framework, as you know. |
| 17:37 |
|
Frederic |
I don't understand why jquery is used. |
| 17:51 |
|
tnb |
atz: did you receive my email about the bio? |
| 17:51 |
|
atz |
yes |
| 17:51 |
|
atz |
sounds like a good idea |
| 17:51 |
|
tnb |
ok, great. I just wanted to make sure it did not get lost in cyber space! |
| 17:52 |
|
tnb |
I'm gunning for early next week for that announcement, so the sooner you can get something to me the happier I'll be :) |
| 17:54 |
|
atz |
ok, i've got some already written... up to about 4th grade when my pet turtle died. |
| 17:54 |
|
atz |
j/k |
| 17:55 |
|
tnb |
ha! |
| 18:05 |
|
hdl |
kados : back |
| 18:09 |
|
hdl |
tnb : |
| 18:10 |
|
tnb |
hdl: hi |
| 18:10 |
|
tnb |
:) |
| 18:11 |
|
tnb |
could you send me a list of the french libraries you and paul are supporting? There is a widely-used US research database that we'd like to include them in |
| 18:11 |
|
tnb |
It's important for the project for all Koha libraries to be represented in it |
| 18:12 |
|
hdl |
I saw the figures rported on NGC4LIB. |
| 18:12 |
|
tnb |
yep, that researcher was using a specific method for counting |
| 18:12 |
|
tnb |
that's why we need to make sure Koha libraries get counted |
| 18:12 |
|
hdl |
http://www.dakar.aliaco.com/index_en.htm |
| 18:13 |
|
tnb |
i see there are only 6 french libraries currently in the database that is used for this research |
| 18:13 |
|
hdl |
In This programme you will find some libraries using Koha in Africa. |
| 18:13 |
|
hdl |
Kinshasa University is using Koha. |
| 18:14 |
|
tnb |
ah, great! |
| 18:14 |
|
tnb |
those aren't in the wiki (i don't think they are) |
| 18:15 |
|
tnb |
hdl: i don't see that university listed... it is on this url? |
| 18:15 |
|
hdl |
Yes look For Kabeya |
| 18:15 |
|
tnb |
oh, it is in the pdf, probably |
| 18:15 |
|
hdl |
Yes. |
| 18:16 |
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hdl |
Botwsana and malawi too, iirc. |
| 18:16 |
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tnb |
and your libraries are listed here as well? (I am opening the pdf now) |
| 18:16 |
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hdl |
Nope. |
| 18:16 |
|
hdl |
This was a conference in Dakar, where Koha was much represented. |
| 18:17 |
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hdl |
Eifl.net was there too. Bess sadler took part. |
| 18:17 |
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tnb |
that's very exciting. |
| 18:18 |
|
tnb |
Would you prefer to add french libraries to the database yourself? |
| 18:18 |
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hdl |
http://sidarecyouth.freeflux.net/blog/ |
| 18:18 |
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tnb |
I only offered because it is time-consuming and I was trying to be helpful :) |
| 18:19 |
|
hdl |
Sidarec implemented a Koha in an african country. |
| 18:19 |
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hdl |
Can't find the name. |
| 18:19 |
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hdl |
(remember.) |
| 18:19 |
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tnb |
yes, i knew about sidarec, but I'm not sure if i've added them yet. |
| 18:19 |
|
tnb |
thanks for the reminder |
| 18:20 |
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hdl |
tnb: I think you'll have to wait for Paul to get a full list of Koha users. |
| 18:20 |
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tnb |
ok, I will send him an email |
| 18:20 |
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hdl |
I would certainly forget some. |
| 18:20 |
|
tnb |
thanks for the link to the program! i did not know about those! |
| 19:43 |
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fbcit |
kados: r u around? |
| 19:43 |
|
hdl |
kados : patch sent to manage truncation |
| 19:44 |
|
hdl |
It is only on non stemmed and non ranked search |
| 19:44 |
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kados |
hdl: ok, did you see the link I sent you for the parser? |
| 19:44 |
|
hdl |
But it works. |
| 19:44 |
|
hdl |
yes. |
| 19:44 |
|
hdl |
thanks. |
| 19:45 |
|
hdl |
But i couldnot have time enough to get deep into this. |
| 19:45 |
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kados |
*nod* |
| 19:45 |
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hdl |
I should have read the doc of the parser and install it. |
| 19:45 |
|
hdl |
Before beeing able to do anything. |
| 19:46 |
|
hdl |
Now going to sleep |
| 19:46 |
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kados |
cool, I'll have a look |
| 19:46 |
|
kados |
thanks hdl |
| 19:46 |
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hdl |
I hope you won't have any problems with it. |
| 19:51 |
|
hdl |
kados : what does r=r stand for in ccl.properties ? |
| 19:52 |
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kados |
is'nt it documented? |
| 19:52 |
|
hdl |
we have problem when searching publication dates. |
| 19:52 |
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hdl |
I searched ccl.properties for that and couldnot see. |
| 19:52 |
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kados |
it's for date fields maybe |
| 19:53 |
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kados |
check bib1.att |
| 19:53 |
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hdl |
Yeah, should be but cannot find where you took it from |
| 19:53 |
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kados |
r = relation maybe? |
| 19:54 |
|
kados |
# Date |
| 19:54 |
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kados |
# Used if structure=date (@attr 4=5) |
| 19:54 |
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kados |
index d |
| 19:54 |
|
kados |
completeness 0 |
| 19:54 |
|
kados |
charmap @ |
| 19:54 |
|
kados |
default.idx |
| 20:00 |
|
hdl |
cannot simulate query for yaz-client. |
| 20:00 |
|
hdl |
It is frustrating not to be able to debug query on Publication date. |
| 20:00 |
|
kados |
with or without zebra? |
| 20:01 |
|
hdl |
with zebra. |
| 20:01 |
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kados |
it's indexed as a date field? |
| 20:01 |
|
hdl |
as a year field |
| 20:02 |
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kados |
it won't work |
| 20:02 |
|
kados |
it expects nnnn |
| 20:02 |
|
ryan |
should run a regexp before indexing ? |
| 20:02 |
|
ryan |
or store a pubyear in 942 ? |
| 20:02 |
|
hdl |
UNIMARC |
| 20:03 |
|
ryan |
hdl : does unimarc have a pub year field ? |
| 20:03 |
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thd |
hdl: all text subfield dates in MARC need normalising |
| 20:04 |
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hdl |
yes, but catalogers ususally add some texts before and after. |
| 20:04 |
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ryan |
well, sort by pub year needs to work... |
| 20:05 |
|
ryan |
so do we add an extra field? or index the regexp'ed field rather than the actual text (in 260$c, eg) |
| 20:05 |
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thd |
hdl: just be thankful that UNIMARC actually provides a separate subfield for publication and copyright dates unlike MARC 21 in which it is not always possible to determine which is which |
| 20:06 |
|
hdl |
:P |
| 20:06 |
|
hdl |
I think that we should rather index regexp'ed field. |
| 20:07 |
|
hdl |
This could be the solution. |
| 20:07 |
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thd |
ryan: can you index the regular expression result without actually storing the regular expression? |
| 20:07 |
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hdl |
kados : Does your search and sorting on dates works on dev_week ? |
| 20:09 |
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hdl |
thd : with zebra, yes. but then, we would need to make a zebra specific record before indexing. |
| 20:09 |
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thd |
ryan: can you index the regular expression result in Zebra without actually storing the regular expression result in the record? |
| 20:09 |
|
ryan |
thd: i do not know ... |
| 20:09 |
|
thd |
I asked improperly. Ignore the first form of the question. |
| 20:10 |
|
hdl |
Since you index after the record is stored in database, you could process it before indexing. |
| 20:10 |
|
kados |
hdl: yes |
| 20:10 |
|
kados |
hdl: http://search.athenscounty.lib[…]rt_by=1%3D32+%3Ei |
| 20:10 |
|
masonj |
morning koha |
| 20:10 |
|
kados |
search for harry potter published between 2005-2007 and sort by acquisition date |
| 20:12 |
|
kados |
hdl: r=r might be for ranking |
| 20:12 |
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kados |
no, nevermind |
| 20:12 |
|
kados |
it's not |
| 20:13 |
|
hdl |
are you using dates in 008 or in an other specific field ? |
| 20:13 |
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kados |
dates are several places |
| 20:13 |
|
hdl |
Some dates are not showing up in the list you pointed me. |
| 20:13 |
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kados |
check the record.abs and search for 'Date' |
| 20:14 |
|
hdl |
+ I did quite the same on ccfls some time ago and order was quite messy. |
| 20:14 |
|
hdl |
(cannot remember the query I did) |
| 20:14 |
|
kados |
date is very problematic in marc |
| 20:14 |
|
kados |
esp marc21 |
| 20:15 |
|
kados |
there is no machine-readable place that it's stored except 008 |
| 20:15 |
|
hdl |
Are you processing date fields before storing them ? |
| 20:15 |
|
kados |
no |
| 20:15 |
|
kados |
but if I do it over I might |
| 20:16 |
|
ryan |
no, record.abs says it's only using 008. |
| 20:16 |
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hdl |
Is dev_week branch up to date for all you did ? |
| 20:16 |
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kados |
yep |
| 20:17 |
|
kados |
I think so anyway |
| 20:18 |
|
hdl |
Ok. Now going to bed. |
| 21:00 |
|
fbcit |
kados:in the table 'labels_templates' is the collation of the tmpl_code, tmpl_desc, and units columns different from the rest of the table or could the collation be set the same for the entire table? |
| 21:07 |
|
kados |
fbcit: honestly I'm not sure, but masonj or ryan should know |
| 21:08 |
|
fbcit |
postgresql does not do collation at the column level. |
| 21:09 |
|
kados |
IMO using consistant collation should be the goal |
| 21:09 |
|
kados |
are you seeing something else in the kohastructure.sql? |
| 21:09 |
|
masonj |
hiya fbcit , can u explain a bit more? :) |
| 21:09 |
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kados |
looks like both are set to utf8 fbcit |
| 21:09 |
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kados |
fbcit: are you seeing other behavior? |
| 21:10 |
|
fbcit |
masonj: I'm most of the way through converting kohastructure.sql to postgresql |
| 21:10 |
|
masonj |
ah, all columns should be the same, utf* |
| 21:11 |
|
masonj |
oops, utf8 |
| 21:11 |
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kados |
fbcit: cool! |
| 21:11 |
|
fbcit |
masonj: just to be sure: I can disregard the column collate settings and make the entire db utf8? |
| 21:12 |
|
kados |
fbcit: well, there are a lot of mysqlisms in the installer/data dirs I'm afraid |
| 21:12 |
|
kados |
we do things like INSERT INTO BRANCH (a,b,c) VALUES (x,y,z),(x,y,z) |
| 21:13 |
|
fbcit |
kados: that's ok. As long as I can drop in here and get some help when I get stuck on the mysql, I'll keep plowing. |
| 21:13 |
|
kados |
because in mysql that's much much faster thatn separate statemnts |
| 21:13 |
|
kados |
(also easy to fix with a regex :-) |
| 21:13 |
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fbcit |
sed all the way :-) |
| 21:13 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 21:13 |
|
kados |
sed++ |
| 21:13 |
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kados |
fbcit: so did you read over the basics of Git? |
| 21:14 |
|
kados |
because we'd love to get your patch when you're done |
| 21:14 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 21:14 |
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masonj |
im not too sure on the other tables, but the labels* tables can all be utf8 |
| 21:14 |
|
kados |
all the tables should be utf8 |
| 21:14 |
|
masonj |
sounds good |
| 21:15 |
|
fbcit |
kados: yum install git.... |
| 21:15 |
|
kados |
there's another git out there :/ |
| 21:16 |
|
fbcit |
I'm used to svn, but git seems straight forward enough... |
| 21:16 |
|
kados |
I'm not sure about the red hat, but in debian you want git-core |
| 21:16 |
|
fbcit |
the one I git seems to work ok... |
| 21:16 |
|
fbcit |
;-) |
| 21:16 |
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kados |
git is completely different in that it's a distributed vcs |
| 21:16 |
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kados |
so you have a local copy of the entire repo when you clone |
| 21:17 |
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fbcit |
Everything worked following the ex on the page you pointed me to. |
| 21:17 |
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kados |
sweet |
| 21:21 |
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fbcit |
off for the night... |
| 21:21 |
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kados |
laters |
| 21:21 |
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masonj |
cya, |
| 21:22 |
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masonj |
great move with the postgres too, fbcit :) |
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ATA |
hi all |
| 04:55 |
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chris |
hi ata |
| 04:55 |
|
ATA |
How do you do chris? |
| 04:55 |
|
ATA |
Would you mind telling me about the release of koha 3.0? |
| 04:56 |
|
chris |
what about it? |
| 04:56 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 04:56 |
|
ATA |
hmmm |
| 04:56 |
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ATA |
I mean when it is going to release? |
| 04:56 |
|
chris |
ahh when we get the last of the bugs fixed |
| 04:56 |
|
ATA |
I am windows user of koha |
| 04:56 |
|
chris |
there really isnt a set time, but it shouldnt be far away we are working hard on closing all the bugs at the moment |
| 04:57 |
|
ATA |
Ok |
| 04:57 |
|
atz |
liblime is hiring 4 new people. including me. |
| 04:57 |
|
atz |
:) |
| 04:57 |
|
chris |
not sure when it will be ported to windows |
| 04:57 |
|
ATA |
One more question, when koha 2.29 is going to be released for windows? |
| 04:57 |
|
chris |
that i dont know |
| 04:57 |
|
ATA |
:) @ atz |
| 04:57 |
|
chris |
the windows port is done by rob weir |
| 04:58 |
|
chris |
koha for windows is sorta unofficial :-) |
| 04:58 |
|
ATA |
I asked him a couple of time but no response, i think he is really a buzy man |
| 04:58 |
|
atz |
is it a cygwin version? |
| 04:59 |
|
chris |
no its a fullblown apache for windows, mysql for windows, active state perl etc |
| 04:59 |
|
chris |
rob does a pretty neat click click its installed thing |
| 04:59 |
|
atz |
nice |
| 04:59 |
|
atz |
i'd recommend just doing VMware w/ linux image on win32 |
| 05:00 |
|
ATA |
vmware image is good but how to enter its gui mode? |
| 05:00 |
|
chris |
that i dont know |
| 05:00 |
|
chris |
either :) |
| 05:00 |
|
ATA |
You know windows users always look for gui |
| 05:00 |
|
atz |
remote desktop |
| 05:00 |
|
atz |
:) |
| 05:01 |
|
ATA |
lol |
| 05:01 |
|
ATA |
Ok friends thanks |
| 05:02 |
|
ATA |
Thank you chris and atz |
| 05:02 |
|
ATA |
BYE |
| 05:02 |
|
atz |
ttyl |
| 05:02 |
|
chris |
cya later |
