Time  Nick     Message
11:28 kyle     kados, you around?
12:57 kados    kyle: am now
12:57 kados    kyle: what's up?
13:05 owen     Hi kados
13:05 kados    hiya owen
13:07 owen     kados, foxnorth: here's the ext toolbar test I put together: http://zivotdesign.com/examples/ext/menu.html
13:08 owen     None of the links work, of course, but you get the idea
13:08 owen     foxnorth: I was worrying about the fact that the buttons can't function like regular links, for the purpose of open in new tab, or whatever
13:09 foxnorth very nice!
13:09 foxnorth yeah, that is unfortunate!
13:09 owen     I don't know if there's a way around that or not. But then I remembered that in our current intranet those are form buttons which can't be right-clicked anyway, so maybe it's a non-issue
13:09 foxnorth maybe not...
13:13 owen     foxnorth: I saw this ext forum post: http://extjs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12288 which leads me to believe there isn't a workaround (since it's being suggested as a feature request)
13:14 kados    owen: those look very slick
13:15 kados    owen: just looking at the page source, it doesn't appear they degrade very well, or is there something I'm missing?
13:16 owen     No, they don't degrade at all, without help. I'd have to have ext/jquery overwrite a hard-coded menu
13:16 owen     ...which is what I was trying to do with the YUI menu anyway
13:16 kados    ahh
13:16 owen     One thing I'm not sure of is how picky ext is about changing the style of buttons and menus. For instance, if I play around with margins or padding, is the alignment of the menu dropdown going to get messed up?
13:19 foxnorth that's a good question; i haven't tried playing around w/ the css at all
13:27 hdl      owen : I had a js error on your link : zivotdesign
13:27 owen     Sorry, I'm working on it just now
13:27 owen     Try now
13:28 owen     foxnorth: can I not add the same "iconCls:" to the menu items as I can with the toolbar items?
13:28 kados    owen: so the css triggers the whole thing?
13:29 owen     js
13:29 foxnorth owen: hhmm i'd have to check the docs :)
13:29 kados    ahh, ok, I see
13:29 kados    ExtMenu.js
13:30 hdl      owen : translations may be quite messy if it is not possible to play with margins and so.
13:30 kados    ahh, yes, translations
13:30 kados    that's something to consider
13:30 kados    thanks hdl
13:31 owen     Does the translator work on linked js files?
13:31 kados    we'll have to test it I suppose
13:31 paul     hello world.
13:31 kados    hiya paul
13:31 paul     owen : what do you call "linked js files" ?
13:31 hdl      yes, as far as you have _( ) around the string to translate.
13:32 owen     I mean <script src="linked.js"></script>
13:32 kados    owen: yea, should
13:32 paul     (/me happy to have 2 DSL connexion at home : one for home one for business... the business one is broken since yesterday, but the home one works fine ;-) )
13:32 kados    hehe
13:32 kyle     kados: I'm almost finished with my Reserves work. Is it safe for me to just commit it to dev_week?
13:33 kados    hiya kyle
13:33 kados    good question
13:33 hdl      owen : maybe you would have to put a dummy gettext function in those files.
13:33 kados    kyle: best person to answer that would be ryan actually
13:33 kyle     From what I've been told, only npl and ccfls run dev_week. And npl does not use the reserves system.
13:33 kados    he's taken on the task of maintaining that version
13:34 owen     hdl: Embed the gettext function in the files themselves?
13:34 kyle     ok, I'll ask him.
13:34 kados    kyle: npl, stow, ccfls, barberton run dev_week
13:34 hdl      maybe.
13:34 kyle     heh, more than I expected ; )
13:34 kados    kyle: he's just walked into the office, he should be at his desk in a few minutes
13:34 owen     npl's not getting a dev_week update, though, are we?
13:34 kados    (long night last night)
13:34 kados    owen: nope
13:37 kados    dbs: mornin
13:37 dbs      hey kados
13:37 kyle     kados: we would like to have an indicator that an item is on reserve from the circ catalog search. I think having the Reserves link say "Reserves (2)" if two people have reserved the item would be nice, but I don't know where to actually put the code.
13:37 kados    kyle: right
13:38 kados    kyle: I'll show you, just a sec
13:40 kados    kyle: you'll want to add it to the items_loop ref to hashrefs
13:41 kyle     can you point me to a particular file and line number?
13:41 kados    sure
13:41 kados    Search.pm
13:41 kados    3521
13:41 kados    hehe
13:42 kados    kyle: so you'll have to check if there's a lightweight enough function to pull out the count for you
13:43 kados    if all you need is the count, might make sense to just do a SQL one-liner
13:43 kyle     thanks.
13:43 kyle     Yeah, most of my work on Reserves2 are just additional subs and a few modificatinos to existing ones.
13:44 kados    sweet
13:44 kyle     I'll post a screenshot in a minute.
13:45 kyle     if I ever get Krita installed an downloaded ; \ Switched to Kubuntu Gutsy yesterday.
13:45 kados    actually, you'll want to do it like onloancount is done
13:45 kados    $onloan_count
13:45 kados    starting with 3524
13:46 kyle     ok
13:56 kados    owen: so are you settled on the ext menu?
13:57 owen     I don't know. I still need to see how flexible it is to style. But the code seems a lot more straightforward to me. I also need to check out much the ext libraries weigh when configured correctly for what we need
14:03 kados    *nod*
14:03 kados    makes sense
14:24 kyle     New reserves snapshot: http://kylehall.info/index.php/2007/10/18/reserves-system-update/
14:24 kyle     let me know what you think
14:24 kyle     I still need to port it to the npl templates, but that will only take a few minutes.
14:31 owen     kyle that looks really great
14:31 owen     I love the "lock" idea
14:31 owen     We gotta get this stuff for 3.0!
14:31 kyle     thanks.
14:32 kados    owen: looks swank
14:32 kyle     Once I get the all clear to integrate it into dev_week, we can look at 3.0 integration.
14:32 kados    kyle++
14:33 owen     By the way, kados, be sure to check out the generated source of that ext toolbar example. That's one of the other downsides of ext.
14:33 kyle     any idea when ryan might show up here?
14:33 kados    he's prolly around now
14:35 ryan     hi kyle
14:36 ryan     looks nice
14:37 kyle     Do you know if any of the libraries using dev_week are using the current reserves system?
14:37 ryan     kyle: yep
14:37 ryan     not sure if the item-level reserves stuff was committed.
14:38 kyle     Can you get clearance for me to commit my updates? I really don't know how this should work.
14:40 ryan     kyle: yes, everyone else has drifted from stock cvs
14:40 ryan     so np to commit
14:40 ryan     do you change the api ?
14:40 ryan     or tables ?
14:41 kyle     There are some new columns in the reserves table, and some new private and public subs.
14:43 ryan     cool - you'll add to updatedatebase ?
14:43 kyle     I'll give my code a good twice-over, clean up the docs, and commit it.
14:43 kyle     Yes, I'll add those new columns to updatedatabase.
14:44 ryan     great ... those are some nice features
14:44 kyle     question: does the current reserves system automatically e-mail people who have entered e-mail addresses? I couldn't find anything referencing it in Reserves2.pm
14:45 kados    kyle: no, I don't think that's ever made it into the general release
14:45 kados    kyle: but I can send you a patch that does that
14:46 kados    it's not really that impressive, it's a couple of lines in perl IIRC
14:46 kyle     Ok, I figured I'd do that. Jo from HLT also want's to be able to text message cell phones with reserve messages. That wouldn't be a problem if I could find a public API for texting. I think Yahoo might have one.
14:46 kados    tumer's already done that
14:47 kyle     I think I should add a prefs for borrowers so they can choose which ways to be contacted about various items.
14:47 kados    that code is in rel-TG
14:47 kados    kyle: yea, absolutely
14:47 kyle     That's cool. I'll check that out.
14:47 kados    kyle: I'd love to distinguish between global preferences, library preferences and user preferences
14:48 kados    pretty trivial enhancement, it's just the 'death by a thousand papercuts' thing :-)
14:48 kyle     You mean, have a default global for each, which is superceded by a default library pref, which is superceded by a user's prefs?
14:48 kados    kyle: exactly
14:48 kyle     Yeah, I know what you mean.
14:49 kyle     Maybe we should write Prefs.pm.
14:49 kyle     Have a standard interface for working with prefs.
14:50 kados    yea, well I'm pretty happy with C4::Context->preference for the global ones
14:50 kados    but we could look at splitting that stuff out into a separate module I suppose
14:50 kyle     seems to work well.
14:50 kados    the new session handling in 3.0 is another option I think
14:51 kados    the userenv can be arbitrarily expanded
14:51 kados    not based on tables like in 2.2
14:51 kyle     A good pref manager for php is http://pear.php.net/package/Auth_PrefManager2
14:51 kyle     Actually, http://pear.php.net/package/Auth_PrefManager is the stable version.
14:52 kados    the cool thing about using sessions is you can hot-copy the session data into a user's account, and easily copy it back to their session, merge it with other sessions, etc.
14:52 kados    CGI::Session++
14:52 kyle     Something like it for perl would be great.
14:52 kyle     agreed.
15:54 fbcit    Are there plans to expand Koha to include the ability to track library fines?
15:55 kados    fbcit: ?
15:55 kados    fbcit: it's done that since version 1.0 8 years ago :=)
15:56 fbcit    kados: sorry. I typed before I looked.... :-(
15:58 kados    :)
15:58 fbcit    kados: We are looking to integrate a library management system with an accounting package so that fines are charged to student accounts.
15:58 kados    fbcit: which accounting package?
15:59 fbcit    kados: We are looking at LedgerSMB with some mods for non-profit.
16:00 hdl      kados ? did you receive my email ?
16:00 fbcit    kados: I'm not clear from the website or docs.... does Koha support PostgreSQL?
16:01 kados    fbcit: to use postgres you'd have to tweak some queries
16:01 kados    fbcit: we do use DBI, which has a driver for postgres
16:01 kados    but there are a few mysql specific queries still that would need to be adjusted
16:01 kados    fbcit: we humbly await your patch :-)
16:02 fbcit    kados: Ahh... I see it is in Perl...
16:02 kados    yup
16:03 kados    hdl: yes, I did
16:03 kados    hdl: sorry, haven't responded yet
16:03 kados    I'll look closely now
16:03 fbcit    kados: any estimate on the size of job doing the query convert would be?
16:04 fbcit    I've not looked at the code yet....
16:04 kados    I dunno, maybe a few days
16:04 hdl      kados: it is just that if you want to ask some questions, we could now.
16:04 kados    for someone who knows the differences
16:05 kados    hdl: sure
16:05 fbcit    we just finished moving several apps from MSSQL to PostgreSQL... What could be more different than tsql and every other sql? :-)
16:05 kados    hdl: I'm wondering if we should just leave the issue of truncation to Zebra at the back end
16:05 kados    hdl: it handles right and left truncation natively
16:06 kados    fbcit: :-)
16:06 kados    fbcit: if you've done that already, it will likely be a cinch for your team
16:06 kados    fbcit: you'll want to nab the 3.0 version though
16:06 kados    fbcit: and get familiar with Git
16:07 kados    fbcit: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:git_usage
16:07 fbcit    kados: Ok. And I'm not familiar with Zebra though saw references to it on the website.
16:07 kados    yep, there is a zebra option and a no-zebra option
16:08 kados    fbcit: the no-zebra option is easy :-)
16:08 fbcit    the query times with zebra were impressive...
16:08 fbcit    what is it? (besides brother to a horse...)
16:09 kados    zebra is an indexing engine
16:09 kados    and yes, it's extremely fast
16:15 fbcit    kados:tnx. I'll have a look at the code over the next week.
16:28 kados    hdl: got a sec?
16:28 kados    hdl: we are hoping you can explain the practice of call numbers among your libraries
16:28 kados    hdl: which fields in the koha tables do they use for storage of call numbers at the biblioitem level?
16:28 kados    if any
16:31 kados    hdl: ?
16:36 tnb      paul: ?
16:36 tnb      hdl: ?
16:36 tnb      atz: hi joe!
16:37 atz      greets
16:37 paul     kados : they use dewey, or nothing (and only itemcallnumber)
16:37 paul     tnd : yes ?
16:37 paul     all : git-send-semail is no more in git 1.5.3.2 ???
16:38 atz      for real?
16:38 paul     time to leave for frenchies...
16:38 kados    git-send-email ?
16:38 paul     atz : yes
16:38 kados    yowser
16:38 paul     unless i'm really really really tired...
16:38 kados    :-)
16:38 atz      so what great new feature makes it worthwhile to upgrade to 1.5.3.2 then?
16:39 kados    I wonder if there's a new way to send email patches
16:40 paul     time to leave. I'll look later if someone has an explanation...
16:40 kados    09:39 < kados> did git-send-email get removed from 1.5.3.2 and is there an alternative utility?
16:40 kados    09:40 -!- arwed is now known as alley_cat
16:40 kados    09:40 < aroben> kados: it did not get removed
16:40 kados    paul_away: so looks like it's not removed :-)
16:40 kados    09:40 < kados> ahh, cool, thanks
16:40 kados    paul_away: you must be tired :-)
17:10 tnb      paul: when you have time, will you please send me a list of all the libraries you support in France? If we don't add those libraries as "koha users" to some of the US researcher websites, the Koha project is goign to continue to be under-represented. I'm happy to add them, but the users wiki is pretty out of date at this point
17:11 kados    tnb: I think paul has gone for the day
17:11 kados    tnb: best time to catch him is in the morning on EST
17:11 tnb      ok, good to know
17:12 tnb      do i remember correctly that an African library recently went live?
17:12 kados    sounds familiar
17:12 kados    can't rememeber which one thoug
17:12 kados    maybe look on the koha lists
17:12 tnb      yeah, i can't find it now :/
17:15 Frederic hello
17:23 kados    hiya Frederic
17:26 tnb      frederic: hi (This is Tina with LibLime). I see you didn't yet make it on the pay for support page on koha.org I actually don't have access right now to directly edit the website, but if you send your company info to rwg@liblime.com, russel should be able to add you
17:27 tnb      seeing you name just reminded me!
17:27 tnb      your name
17:27 tnb      :)
17:27 tnb      Frederic: also, if you have any clients you'd like included in the 'koha users' lists, please let me know
17:28 tnb      we have several US researchers who track who is using Koha, so it benefits the project if I add any new libraries using Koha to those databases
17:31 Frederic Hi Tina, I send a text to you June 16th... I will resend it. Thx. Feel free to accomate my idiom to English :)
17:32 tnb      ok, thanks Frederic! I'll forward your test to Russel so he can add it to the site
17:34 Frederic hiya (?) Kados,
17:34 Frederic Are you integrating YUI to Koha as JS and UI framework, or are you just picking up some pieces, mixing with other libraries (jQuery...)?
17:34 kados    hi
17:34 kados    Frederic: just pieces
17:34 kados    ajax and ui pieces
17:35 Frederic Tnb: email sent...
17:37 tnb      great!
17:37 Frederic YUI is a very powerfull framework, as you know.
17:37 Frederic I don't understand why jquery is used.
17:51 tnb      atz: did you receive my email about the bio?
17:51 atz      yes
17:51 atz      sounds like a good idea
17:51 tnb      ok, great. I just wanted to make sure it did not get lost in cyber space!
17:52 tnb      I'm gunning for early next week for that announcement, so the sooner you can get something to me the happier I'll be :)
17:54 atz      ok, i've got some already written... up to about 4th grade when my pet turtle died.
17:54 atz      j/k
17:55 tnb      ha!
18:05 hdl      kados : back
18:09 hdl      tnb :
18:10 tnb      hdl: hi
18:10 tnb      :)
18:11 tnb      could you send me a list of the french libraries you and paul are supporting? There is a widely-used US research database that we'd like to include them in
18:11 tnb      It's important for the project for all Koha libraries to be represented in it
18:12 hdl      I saw the figures rported on NGC4LIB.
18:12 tnb      yep, that researcher was using a specific method for counting
18:12 tnb      that's why we need to make sure Koha libraries get counted
18:12 hdl      http://www.dakar.aliaco.com/index_en.htm
18:13 tnb      i see there are only 6 french libraries currently in the database that is used for this research
18:13 hdl      In This programme you will find some libraries using Koha in Africa.
18:13 hdl      Kinshasa University is using Koha.
18:14 tnb      ah, great!
18:14 tnb      those aren't in the wiki  (i don't think they are)
18:15 tnb      hdl: i don't see that university listed... it is on this url?
18:15 hdl      Yes look For Kabeya
18:15 tnb      oh, it is in the pdf, probably
18:15 hdl      Yes.
18:16 hdl      Botwsana and malawi too, iirc.
18:16 tnb      and your libraries are listed here as well? (I am opening the pdf now)
18:16 hdl      Nope.
18:16 hdl      This was a conference in Dakar, where Koha was much represented.
18:17 hdl      Eifl.net was there too. Bess sadler took part.
18:17 tnb      that's very exciting.
18:18 tnb      Would you prefer to add french libraries to the database yourself?
18:18 hdl      http://sidarecyouth.freeflux.net/blog/
18:18 tnb      I only offered because it is time-consuming and I was trying to be helpful :)
18:19 hdl      Sidarec implemented a Koha in an african country.
18:19 hdl      Can't find the name.
18:19 hdl      (remember.)
18:19 tnb      yes, i knew about sidarec, but I'm not sure if i've added them yet.
18:19 tnb      thanks for the reminder
18:20 hdl      tnb: I think you'll have to wait for Paul to get a full list of Koha users.
18:20 tnb      ok, I will send him an email
18:20 hdl      I would certainly forget some.
18:20 tnb      thanks for the link to the program! i did not know about those!
19:43 fbcit    kados: r u around?
19:43 hdl      kados : patch sent to manage truncation
19:44 hdl      It is only on non stemmed and non ranked search
19:44 kados    hdl: ok, did you see the link I sent you for the parser?
19:44 hdl      But it works.
19:44 hdl      yes.
19:44 hdl      thanks.
19:45 hdl      But i couldnot have time enough to get deep into this.
19:45 kados    *nod*
19:45 hdl      I should have read the doc of the parser and install it.
19:45 hdl      Before beeing able to do anything.
19:46 hdl      Now going to sleep
19:46 kados    cool, I'll have a look
19:46 kados    thanks hdl
19:46 hdl      I hope you won't have any problems with it.
19:51 hdl      kados : what does r=r stand for in ccl.properties ?
19:52 kados    is'nt it documented?
19:52 hdl      we have problem when searching publication dates.
19:52 hdl      I searched ccl.properties for that and couldnot see.
19:52 kados    it's for date fields maybe
19:53 kados    check bib1.att
19:53 hdl      Yeah, should be but cannot find where you took it from
19:53 kados    r = relation maybe?
19:54 kados    # Date
19:54 kados    # Used if structure=date (@attr 4=5)
19:54 kados    index d
19:54 kados    completeness 0
19:54 kados    charmap @
19:54 kados    default.idx
20:00 hdl      cannot simulate query for yaz-client.
20:00 hdl      It is frustrating not to be able to debug query on Publication date.
20:00 kados    with or without zebra?
20:01 hdl      with zebra.
20:01 kados    it's indexed as a date field?
20:01 hdl      as a year field
20:02 kados    it won't work
20:02 kados    it expects nnnn
20:02 ryan     should run a regexp before indexing ?
20:02 ryan     or store a pubyear in 942 ?
20:02 hdl      UNIMARC
20:03 ryan     hdl : does unimarc have a pub year field ?
20:03 thd      hdl: all text subfield dates in MARC need normalising
20:04 hdl      yes, but catalogers ususally add some texts before and after.
20:04 ryan     well, sort by pub year needs to work...
20:05 ryan     so do we add an extra field?  or index the regexp'ed field rather than the actual text (in 260$c, eg)
20:05 thd      hdl: just be thankful that UNIMARC actually provides a separate subfield for publication and copyright dates unlike MARC 21 in which it is not always possible to determine which is which
20:06 hdl      :P
20:06 hdl      I think that we should rather index regexp'ed field.
20:07 hdl      This could be the solution.
20:07 thd      ryan: can you index the regular expression result without actually storing the regular expression?
20:07 hdl      kados : Does your search and sorting on dates works on dev_week ?
20:09 hdl      thd : with zebra, yes. but then, we would need to make a zebra specific record before indexing.
20:09 thd      ryan: can you index the regular expression result in Zebra without actually storing the regular expression result in the record?
20:09 ryan     thd: i do not know ...
20:09 thd      I asked improperly.  Ignore the first form of the question.
20:10 hdl      Since you index after the record is stored in database, you could process it before indexing.
20:10 kados    hdl: yes
20:10 kados    hdl: http://search.athenscounty.lib.oh.us/search?q=harry+potter+and+%28yr%3A2005-2007%29&sort_by=1%3D32+%3Ei
20:10 masonj   morning koha
20:10 kados    search for harry potter published between 2005-2007 and sort by acquisition date
20:12 kados    hdl: r=r might be for ranking
20:12 kados    no, nevermind
20:12 kados    it's not
20:13 hdl      are you using dates in 008 or in an other specific field ?
20:13 kados    dates are several places
20:13 hdl      Some dates are not showing up in the list you pointed me.
20:13 kados    check the record.abs and search for 'Date'
20:14 hdl      + I did quite the same on ccfls some time ago and order was quite messy.
20:14 hdl      (cannot remember the query I did)
20:14 kados    date is very problematic in marc
20:14 kados    esp marc21
20:15 kados    there is no machine-readable place that it's stored except 008
20:15 hdl      Are you processing date fields before storing them ?
20:15 kados    no
20:15 kados    but if I do it over I might
20:16 ryan     no, record.abs says it's only using 008.
20:16 hdl      Is dev_week branch up to date for all you did ?
20:16 kados    yep
20:17 kados    I think so anyway
20:18 hdl      Ok. Now going to bed.
21:00 fbcit    kados:in the table 'labels_templates' is the collation of the tmpl_code, tmpl_desc, and units columns different from the rest of the table or could the collation be set the same for the entire table?
21:07 kados    fbcit: honestly I'm not sure, but masonj or ryan should know
21:08 fbcit    postgresql does not do collation at the column level.
21:09 kados    IMO using consistant collation should be the goal
21:09 kados    are you seeing something else in the kohastructure.sql?
21:09 masonj   hiya fbcit , can u explain a bit more? :)
21:09 kados    looks like both are set to utf8 fbcit
21:09 kados    fbcit: are you seeing other behavior?
21:10 fbcit    masonj: I'm most of the way through converting kohastructure.sql to postgresql
21:10 masonj   ah, all columns should be the same, utf*
21:11 masonj   oops, utf8
21:11 kados    fbcit: cool!
21:11 fbcit    masonj: just to be sure: I can disregard the column collate settings and make the entire db utf8?
21:12 kados    fbcit: well, there are a lot of mysqlisms in the installer/data dirs I'm afraid
21:12 kados    we do things like INSERT INTO BRANCH (a,b,c) VALUES (x,y,z),(x,y,z)
21:13 fbcit    kados: that's ok. As long as I can drop in here and get some help when I get stuck on the mysql, I'll keep plowing.
21:13 kados    because in mysql that's much much faster thatn separate statemnts
21:13 kados    (also easy to fix with a regex :-)
21:13 fbcit    sed all the way :-)
21:13 kados    hehe
21:13 kados    sed++
21:13 kados    fbcit: so did you read over the basics of Git?
21:14 kados    because we'd love to get your patch when you're done
21:14 kados    :-)
21:14 masonj   im not too sure on the other tables, but the labels* tables can all be utf8
21:14 kados    all the tables should be utf8
21:14 masonj   sounds good
21:15 fbcit    kados: yum install git....
21:15 kados    there's another git out there :/
21:16 fbcit    I'm used to svn, but git seems straight forward enough...
21:16 kados    I'm not sure about the red hat, but in debian you want git-core
21:16 fbcit    the one I git seems to work ok...
21:16 fbcit    ;-)
21:16 kados    git is completely different in that it's a distributed vcs
21:16 kados    so you have a local copy of the entire repo when you clone
21:17 fbcit    Everything worked following the ex on the page you pointed me to.
21:17 kados    sweet
21:21 fbcit    off for the night...
21:21 kados    laters
21:21 masonj   cya,
21:22 masonj   great move with the postgres too, fbcit :)
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04:54 ATA      hi all
04:55 chris    hi ata
04:55 ATA      How do you do chris?
04:55 ATA      Would you mind telling me about the release of koha 3.0?
04:56 chris    what about it?
04:56 chris    :)
04:56 ATA      hmmm
04:56 ATA      I mean when it is going to release?
04:56 chris    ahh when we get the last of the bugs fixed
04:56 ATA      I am windows user of koha
04:56 chris    there really isnt a set time, but it shouldnt be far away we are working hard on closing all the bugs at the moment
04:57 ATA      Ok
04:57 atz      liblime is hiring 4 new people.  including me.
04:57 atz      :)
04:57 chris    not sure when it will be ported to windows
04:57 ATA      One more question, when koha 2.29 is going to be released for windows?
04:57 chris    that i dont know
04:57 ATA      :) @ atz
04:57 chris    the windows port is done by rob weir
04:58 chris    koha for windows is sorta unofficial :-)
04:58 ATA      I asked him a couple of time but no response, i think he is really a buzy man
04:58 atz      is it a cygwin version?
04:59 chris    no its a fullblown apache for windows, mysql for windows, active state perl etc
04:59 chris    rob does a pretty neat click click its installed thing
04:59 atz      nice
04:59 atz      i'd recommend just doing VMware w/ linux image on win32
05:00 ATA      vmware image is good but how to enter its gui mode?
05:00 chris    that i dont know
05:00 chris    either :)
05:00 ATA      You know windows users always look for gui
05:00 atz      remote desktop
05:00 atz      :)
05:01 ATA      lol
05:01 ATA      Ok friends thanks
05:02 ATA      Thank you chris and atz
05:02 ATA      BYE
05:02 atz      ttyl
05:02 chris    cya later