| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 11:49 |
|
fbcit |
kados:Do I understand right: mysql 'enum' type simply limits a column to one of several pre-defined options? |
| 11:56 |
|
kados |
fbcit: yes |
| 12:00 |
|
kados |
fbcit: just so you know, I think there have been a couple changes to the db since you started |
| 12:00 |
|
kados |
fbcit: maybe just one ... but you should be able to rebase and catch those |
| 12:01 |
|
kados |
fbcit: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]?p=Koha;a=summary |
| 12:01 |
|
kados |
fbcit: http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]2eceaa74f;hb=HEAD |
| 12:02 |
|
kados |
hdl: are you here? |
| 12:02 |
|
kados |
paul_away: ? |
| 12:03 |
|
kados |
hdl: I'm having trouble with the patches to additem.pl/tmpl |
| 12:05 |
|
fbcit |
kados: I'll take a look. tnx |
| 12:11 |
|
hdl |
hi dados |
| 12:11 |
|
hdl |
hi kados |
| 12:11 |
|
kados |
hi hdl |
| 12:11 |
|
hdl |
what problem fo you have ? |
| 12:11 |
|
kados |
it's easiest to show you |
| 12:12 |
|
kados |
try to edit or add an item at the URL I sent you |
| 12:12 |
|
kados |
when you edit, all the fields will disappear |
| 12:12 |
|
kados |
when you try to add, you won't be able to save the record |
| 12:13 |
|
kados |
I attached a note to the bug specifying the specific patch it was |
| 12:13 |
|
kados |
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]c0a74e3a4d9a575ee |
| 12:16 |
|
ansius |
hi there! |
| 12:17 |
|
kados |
hi ani |
| 12:17 |
|
kados |
ansius I mean :-) |
| 12:19 |
|
ansius |
a dum question, wich distro of linux would be the best for koha, i have had trouble with all of them... :( |
| 12:19 |
|
ansius |
a dum question, wich distro of linux would be the best for koha, i have had trouble with all of them... :( |
| 12:20 |
|
ansius |
ok, debian how did you manage tu get mysql 4.1 runing, i have been triing that for 2 days |
| 12:20 |
|
ansius |
ok, debian how did you manage tu get mysql 4.1 runing, i have been triing that for 2 days |
| 12:20 |
|
kados |
well, I run Koha on mysql 5 |
| 12:21 |
|
kados |
the package maintainer hasn't released a 2.2.10 with all the mysql 5 support |
| 12:21 |
|
kados |
but it's all there in CVS |
| 12:22 |
|
ansius |
oho, so the 2.2.10 is in dev section? |
| 12:22 |
|
ansius |
good news! :D |
| 12:22 |
|
ansius |
good news! :D |
| 12:22 |
|
kados |
2.2.10 hasn't been released and the package maintainer has said he won't have time to create it |
| 12:22 |
|
ansius |
good news! :D |
| 12:23 |
|
kados |
but you can bug him :-) his name is Paul Poulain :-) |
| 12:25 |
|
ansius |
dumer question, how to get it form there... |
| 12:26 |
|
fbcit |
masonj: in z3950servers.position and type will a datatype of varchar(10) be sufficient? pg lacks an 'enum' type... |
| 12:26 |
|
fbcit |
masonj: so I'm using a constraint to do the same thing. |
| 12:27 |
|
kados |
fbcit: mason is in NZ, so probably asleep if he know's what's good for him :-) |
| 12:28 |
|
kados |
fbcit: position is just a numeric value defining the order to search the server |
| 12:28 |
|
kados |
fbcit: type varchar(10) will be fine |
| 12:30 |
|
the_ansius |
ok now i can talk, git mIRC running |
| 12:30 |
|
fbcit |
kados: so code referring to this field looks at the index rather than the value? |
| 12:31 |
|
kados |
fbcit: hmmm, to be honest I'm not sure |
| 12:32 |
|
the_ansius |
im no linux expert (except the typical LAMP setups), and have had trouble with getiing koha runing on various distributions. |
| 12:32 |
|
the_ansius |
ubuntu was before my choice |
| 12:33 |
|
fbcit |
kados: It will make a difference in how I handle it in pg. Reading in the mysql man indicates either value or index can be accessed w/SELECT. |
| 12:33 |
|
the_ansius |
but no AMD64 didnt like mysql-4.1 |
| 12:33 |
|
fbcit |
kados: So, who to ask? |
| 12:33 |
|
kados |
the_ansius: it's likely the trouble wasn't related to koha, but one of the dependencies |
| 12:34 |
|
the_ansius |
jap i know, but i vasnt able to solve them :( |
| 12:34 |
|
kados |
fbcit: hmmm |
| 12:34 |
|
kados |
fbcit: value shuld be fine |
| 12:36 |
|
fbcit |
kados: ok. I'll go that direction then. |
| 12:39 |
|
fbcit |
kados: It appears that pg 8.3 will have enums. |
| 12:39 |
|
kados |
sweet |
| 12:43 |
|
ansius |
another dumb question what is 'http://download.savannah.nongn[…]oha-2.3.0.tar.gz' and will it work with mySQL5 ? |
| 12:43 |
|
kados |
ansius: no, that is a developer's pre-release |
| 12:43 |
|
kados |
you don't want that :-) |
| 12:44 |
|
ansius |
ok, so hwre can I get 2.2.10 |
| 12:45 |
|
kados |
ansius: you can bug the package maintainer to release it :-) |
| 12:46 |
|
ansius |
i gues that i will not be able to bug him so much to get it asap, cos client want to see something by tomorrow morning (UTC +3) |
| 12:47 |
|
kados |
ansius: ahh, you're doing this for a client? a library I suppose? |
| 12:48 |
|
ansius |
a school one |
| 12:49 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 12:49 |
|
ansius |
they didn't want to pay for something like a software, good that they at least bought server |
| 12:49 |
|
ansius |
mostly i work with web/php/ drupal cms stuff |
| 12:59 |
|
ansius |
is ther any other way without bugging anyone too much to get a 2.2.10 version? |
| 13:01 |
|
kados |
ansius: perhaps |
| 13:01 |
|
kados |
ansius: http://www.kohadocs.org/Updating_Koha.html |
| 13:02 |
|
kados |
ansius: you can run off of CVS |
| 13:02 |
|
kados |
the rel_2_2 branch |
| 13:08 |
|
ansius |
i'll try, thanks! |
| 14:28 |
|
owen |
foxnorth, you around? |
| 14:29 |
|
kados |
owen: he's on a call atm, should be back soon |
| 14:34 |
|
kados |
owen: go learn javascript! :-) |
| 14:35 |
|
owen |
No, that was the YUI guys ;) |
| 14:35 |
|
kados |
heh |
| 14:38 |
|
Frederic |
Hi, |
| 14:38 |
|
Frederic |
circ/memberentry.pl is broken in git repository. |
| 14:38 |
|
Frederic |
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]03a2571e3;hb=HEAD |
| 14:38 |
|
Frederic |
Lines: 44 50 115 etc |
| 14:43 |
|
hdl |
Can you detail ? |
| 14:45 |
|
Frederic |
Line 44, you get: |
| 14:45 |
|
Frederic |
<<<<<<< HEAD:members/memberentry.pl |
| 14:45 |
|
Frederic |
which isn't perlish. Etc. |
| 14:54 |
|
hdl |
This looks like you had a merge problem |
| 14:58 |
|
Frederic |
Yes. But the merging issue occurs into the git repository. |
| 14:58 |
|
Frederic |
I've done a fresh 'git clone' and get the brocken circ/memberentry.pl file. |
| 15:15 |
|
kados |
Frederic: you're right! |
| 15:21 |
|
kados |
Frederic: OK, I pushed up a fix |
| 15:21 |
|
kados |
sorry about that! |
| 15:30 |
|
Frederic |
Great. It works! Thanks. A simple 'get pull' and I get back a working memberentry.pl. |
| 15:30 |
|
Frederic |
Except that x right access wasn't set properly. Had to do chmod 755... |
| 15:31 |
|
kados |
ahh, right |
| 16:19 |
|
paul |
hello world |
| 16:20 |
|
paul |
I have found git-send-email again. It's in a specific package on mandriva 2008 ;-) |
| 16:20 |
|
paul |
sending 4 patches to chris now ! |
| 16:23 |
|
kados |
paul: patches to additem? :-) |
| 16:23 |
|
paul |
yep kados |
| 16:23 |
|
kados |
w00t |
| 16:23 |
|
kados |
paul: can you cc me, I'd like to test them |
| 16:24 |
|
paul |
done |
| 16:24 |
|
kados |
thx |
| 16:25 |
|
kados |
paul: I'll test immediately |
| 16:25 |
|
paul |
i'll leave soon (6:30 pm here) |
| 16:28 |
|
kados |
paul: this patch doesnt' seem to fix the problems with additem that I'm experiencing |
| 16:29 |
|
paul |
which one ? |
| 16:29 |
|
paul |
(it fixes only duplicate barcode) |
| 16:38 |
|
kados |
hdl, paul ... if we can't resolve the issues with additem today I'm going to revert patch 8bdc7f83acaf471ac9e14c7c0a74e3a4d9a575ee |
| 16:38 |
|
kados |
just to ensure that additem works in mainline git |
| 16:38 |
|
kados |
I just tested reverting and it works 'on the surface' |
| 16:38 |
|
paul |
cant this just wait until monday ? |
| 16:38 |
|
paul |
(update from .008 to .010 is very long for me...) |
| 16:39 |
|
kados |
well, it's been 48 hours with additem broken so I think i should just revert it if there's not an easy fix |
| 16:40 |
|
kados |
otherwise additem doesn't work at all in git :/ |
| 16:40 |
|
kados |
monday is too long I'm afraid |
| 16:42 |
|
kados |
it's my fault for not catching this _before_ it was pushed up :-) |
| 16:42 |
|
paul |
the Check function is supposed to check that all existing mandatory fields are working. |
| 16:42 |
|
paul |
it seems it uses the "old" marc editor structure (with field_values) |
| 16:43 |
|
paul |
and not the new one. |
| 16:43 |
|
paul |
just "return 1;" after the function declaration, and you should be able to validate an item (can't test, update still not finished on my computer) |
| 16:44 |
|
paul |
sh...t "internalt server error" ... |
| 16:44 |
|
paul |
the process was too long. |
| 16:44 |
|
kados |
updatedatabase_over_http-- ;-) |
| 16:44 |
|
paul |
this will probably be a major problem: if the update is too long, then Apache kill the process |
| 16:45 |
|
paul |
I have to leave now, Nathan is back after 1 week away. |
| 16:45 |
|
paul |
bye & good week end to everybody. |
| 16:45 |
|
kados |
bye paul |
| 16:56 |
|
hdl |
kados you reverted ? |
| 17:15 |
|
kados |
hdl: haven't pushed it up to main git |
| 17:15 |
|
kados |
hdl: why, have you solved the probs? :-) |
| 17:15 |
|
hdl |
still working on it. |
| 17:22 |
|
hdl |
damaged in field list (items table) Is this yours ? |
| 17:22 |
|
hdl |
database structure not uptodate |
| 17:29 |
|
kados |
maybe you didn't run updatedatabase? |
| 17:32 |
|
hdl |
Yes I did. |
| 17:32 |
|
hdl |
bbsoon |
| 17:32 |
|
hdl |
lunch time |
| 17:45 |
|
kados |
wow, late lunch :-) |
| 18:03 |
|
hdl |
sorry dinner |
| 18:44 |
|
fbcit |
Is there any particular reason that aqbudget.startdate is defaulted to 0? Since it is a date type could it be defaulted to the current date? |
| 18:44 |
|
kados |
it should default to NULL |
| 18:44 |
|
kados |
fbcit: thanks, I'll update kohastructure.sq |
| 18:44 |
|
kados |
l |
| 18:44 |
|
fbcit |
startdate date NOT NULL default 0 |
| 18:44 |
|
kados |
yea, that's just mental |
| 18:45 |
|
kados |
should be startdate date default NULL |
| 18:45 |
|
fbcit |
tnx |
| 18:53 |
|
hdl |
kados : patch sent. |
| 18:55 |
|
hdl |
There still is a little problem on duplicate subfield But it is more a display problem than and data |
| 18:56 |
|
kados |
hdl: thanks, I'll take a look |
| 20:09 |
|
fbcit |
I'm off for the weekend..... |
| 20:34 |
|
kados |
hi rex |
| 20:34 |
|
kados |
rex: how's the weather? :-) |
| 20:35 |
|
rex |
85 degrees and sunny... like every day :) |
| 20:35 |
|
rex |
where in NZ are you? |
| 20:35 |
|
kados |
what brings you to our temperate channel? :-) |
| 20:35 |
|
kados |
oh, I'm actually based on Ohio |
| 20:35 |
|
kados |
s/on/in/ |
| 20:35 |
|
kados |
the NZers won't be here today, it's Saturday there :-) |
| 20:36 |
|
rex |
Ah -- I was looking at the server address, not yours. |
| 20:36 |
|
rex |
I'm a professor at UH Manoa and our department library is looking at Koha as a solution for our IT needs. |
| 20:36 |
|
kados |
excellent |
| 20:36 |
|
rex |
I have some tech background so I thought I'd lurk to get a sense of how active the community is, etc. |
| 20:36 |
|
kados |
sure |
| 20:36 |
|
kados |
it's pretty active |
| 20:37 |
|
kados |
the commit log is always a useful metric too: |
| 20:37 |
|
kados |
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]?p=Koha;a=summary |
| 20:37 |
|
kados |
http://git.koha.org/gitstat/ |
| 20:37 |
|
rex |
yeah. As the chair of the comittee that is looking at 'solutions' t our IT needs I can't be too partisan, but on the whole I'm sympathetic to F/OSS solutions |
| 20:37 |
|
kados |
sure |
| 20:38 |
|
rex |
I guess our main concern is that Koha is too Drupal like -- i.e. useful only if you already know how to write it from scratch ;P |
| 20:39 |
|
kados |
well, I don't know much about your needs, a lot has to do with what you're planning to use it for, how large the collection is, who will be using it, etc. |
| 20:40 |
|
rex |
yes. Actually we should figure out how large our collection is. |
| 20:40 |
|
kados |
ie, if you're looking for a way to keep track of a couple hundred books, might be better off looking at something like librarything or something |
| 20:40 |
|
rex |
I mean... the room its in is large... |
| 20:40 |
|
kados |
koha is really designed for an active library |
| 20:40 |
|
kados |
that has at least cursory understanding of the basic modules and standards in place |
| 20:41 |
|
kados |
large_rooms++ :-) |
| 20:41 |
|
rex |
yeah. people are afraid of LIbrary Thing for some reason. |
| 20:41 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 20:41 |
|
kados |
well, Tim Spalding's a great guy |
| 20:41 |
|
rex |
you know how it is -- people only trust solutions where they're paying someone something. Otherwise they think it is either 'broken' or 'stealing their information' |
| 20:42 |
|
kados |
huh ... well that's an easy fix :-) |
| 20:42 |
|
kados |
http://koha.org/support/pay.html |
| 20:42 |
|
kados |
there are companies that will offer turnkey solutions, even hosting, for Koha |
| 20:43 |
|
rex |
Yeah it will be nice to have a spectrum of pay/free options |
| 20:43 |
|
rex |
At this point I think it looks like this: we have >5K books, I'd reckon. We want a searchable catalog online. |
| 20:44 |
|
kados |
rex: http://liblime.com/products/koha/koha-classic |
| 20:44 |
|
rex |
We want a proper database, populated hopefully w/MARC records we pull down |
| 20:44 |
|
kados |
that's my recommendation :-) |
| 20:44 |
|
kados |
</vendorbias> :-) |
| 20:44 |
|
rex |
yes I think some other memebrs of the committee have been looking at that |
| 20:45 |
|
rex |
we have an OSX box we can install Koha on, so hosting is probably not for us. |
| 20:46 |
|
rex |
I guess this means if we were to go for a liblime solution it would be 'basic' eh? |
| 20:46 |
|
kados |
yup |
| 20:47 |
|
kados |
but not sure we'd support it on OSX |
| 20:47 |
|
rex |
yeah. And we have no money, really. Might be better to just install ourselves. |
| 20:47 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 20:47 |
|
rex |
Since becoming a prof I feel a bit out of it techwise. |
| 20:47 |
|
kados |
there is a guide somewhere for OSX install |
| 20:47 |
|
kados |
did you run across that? |
| 20:47 |
|
rex |
might be nice to keep my hand in. |
| 20:47 |
|
kados |
someone posted to the list recently |
| 20:48 |
|
rex |
yeah. THere's a lot of docs. Apaprently getting the Z3259 (or whatever the protocol is called) client up is a bit of a pain. |
| 20:48 |
|
rex |
39.50 |
| 20:49 |
|
rex |
kados: is LibLime's Keystone suite a flavor of Greenstone? |
| 20:53 |
|
kados |
no ... it's an Index Data product |
| 20:53 |
|
kados |
indexdata.dk/keystone i think |
| 20:54 |
|
kados |
we're also going to be supporting Kete: http://horowhenua.kete.net.nz/ |
| 20:54 |
|
kados |
which is another digital library system |
| 20:56 |
|
rex |
heh. All these Polynesian names. |
| 20:57 |
|
chris |
thats cos they come from Aotearoa :) |
| 20:57 |
|
rex |
heh -- they all look like mispelled Hawai'ian to me :D |
| 20:58 |
|
chris |
Hawai'ian looks like mispelled Maori to me :-) |
| 20:58 |
|
rex |
we had different missionaries, apparently :) |
| 20:58 |
|
chris |
ps, tell your football teams to stop stealing our haka :-) |
| 20:58 |
|
rex |
don't get me started. |
| 20:58 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 20:59 |
|
rex |
that is not only totally disrespectful to Maori but it is also totally clueless about kana 'oiwi people here as well. |
| 20:59 |
|
rex |
*kanaka |
| 21:00 |
|
chris |
yeah, im with you there |
| 21:00 |
|
rex |
kados: just for the record, can you give me a ballpark on what the Koha classic woudl be costwise (you can msg me privately if you don't want to put it on channel). |
| 21:00 |
|
rex |
oof. Don't get me started. Honestly. |
| 21:03 |
|
chris |
my sister has been to Hawaii a bit, she works as a researcher for a school of medicine here, in the indigenous health area |
| 21:03 |
|
chris |
ive yet to visit though ... maybe ud like some Koha training? :-) |
| 21:03 |
|
rex |
we probably have some small world connections then |
| 21:04 |
|
rex |
heh -- I'll let you know. |
| 21:04 |
|
rex |
she may know Kalani Brady... but I think he might just be an indigenous doctor. |
| 21:05 |
|
rex |
albeit a healthy one. |
| 21:05 |
|
chris |
:-) |
| 21:05 |
|
chris |
ill ask next time i see her, shes at some conference at the moment |
| 21:05 |
|
chris |
donna cormack |
| 21:05 |
|
chris |
is her name |
| 21:06 |
|
rex |
they have a different campus than the one I'm on |
| 21:06 |
|
chris |
http://www.nzma.org.nz/journal/119-1231/1917/ <--- she does this kinda stuff |
| 21:08 |
|
rex |
ah. |
| 21:08 |
|
chris |
annoying the government by pointing out disparities in funding .. and unequal outcomes etc :) |
| 21:08 |
|
rex |
yeah. |
| 21:09 |
|
rex |
I guess you have to keep doing that over and over again even if its already been demonstrated for like decades and decades |
| 21:09 |
|
chris |
yeah |
| 21:10 |
|
chris |
sad but true |
| 21:11 |
|
chris |
ok, time to take the family out for some brunch, ttyl |
| 21:14 |
|
rex |
cu |
| 21:30 |
|
chris |
heh, i have no idea why i think i can make plans with an 11 month old ... while i was in the shower he has fallen asleep on his mum, who in turn has fallen asleep |
| 21:30 |
|
chris |
so brunch is postponed |
| 21:34 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 00:32 |
|
atz |
members/memberentry.pl still seems to be messed up in git repo. |
| 01:59 |
|
thd |
ping kados |
| 07:17 |
|
ansius |
hi again, i'm still in the same place. ok I got the cvs rel_2_2 koha, but i have no idea how to set it up, or i can use this one to fix installer so it would work with mysql5? |
| 09:15 |
|
ansius |
bugging again, i'm still in the same place. ok I got the cvs rel_2_2 koha, but i have no idea how to set it up, or i can use this one to fix installer so it would work with mysql5? |
| 09:34 |
|
ansius |
bugging again could anyone please help to get koha-2.2.10 or help to somehow set it up with mysql5 ? |
| 10:59 |
|
ansius |
bugging again could anyone please help to get koha-2.2.10 or help to somehow set koha up with mysql5 ? |
