| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 13:24 |
|
kados |
g'morning #koha |
| 15:27 |
|
thd |
kados: what should the plugin name be for 952 $f Coded location qualifier |
| 15:28 |
|
thd |
? |
| 15:28 |
|
kados |
hmmm |
| 15:28 |
|
kados |
locationqualifier.pl |
| 15:29 |
|
thd |
kados: should that be marc21_locationqualifier.pl? |
| 15:29 |
|
kados |
sure |
| 15:30 |
|
kados |
wasn't there a subfield reserved for linking one item to another? |
| 15:30 |
|
kados |
(I'm talking abotu one 852 to another 852) |
| 15:31 |
|
thd |
kados: If anyone were ever using it the OPAC should use the values in 952 $f to generate a plain language statement interpreting the code for record display |
| 15:31 |
|
thd |
kados: why would you join 2 852s? |
| 15:32 |
|
kados |
I don't know, I just thought I remembered that |
| 15:32 |
|
thd |
or do you mean join 852, 86X, and 876-8? |
| 15:34 |
|
kados |
ahh, yes, nevermine |
| 15:34 |
|
kados |
we'll do that in 3.2 |
| 15:34 |
|
thd |
kados: for joining multiple holdings fields for the same item copy number $t is usually used |
| 15:35 |
|
thd |
kados: $6 or $8 are used in more complex serials cases |
| 15:35 |
|
kados |
thd: here's our TODO list: |
| 15:35 |
|
kados |
THD: add authorized value DPT to items.location |
| 15:35 |
|
kados |
THD: add plugin bookseller.pl to items.booksellerid |
| 15:35 |
|
kados |
THD: fix items.dateassessioned (put dateaccessioned.pl in plugin column) |
| 15:35 |
|
kados |
THD: add marc21_locationqualifier.pl to 952 $f |
| 15:35 |
|
kados |
THD: add classcodes.pl to 952 $2 |
| 15:35 |
|
kados |
JMF: create marc21_locationqualifier.pl plugin |
| 15:35 |
|
kados |
JMF: create classcodes.pl plugin |
| 15:35 |
|
kados |
JMF: create authorized value for STACK |
| 15:35 |
|
kados |
JMF: fix wthdrawn in koha db and code |
| 15:37 |
|
thd |
kados: should that not be CLASSCODES authorised value or can it not be because the values could then only be a code without explanation? |
| 15:38 |
|
kados |
lets do it as an authorized value for now |
| 15:38 |
|
kados |
you're right |
| 15:38 |
|
thd |
kados: can they have explanation? |
| 15:38 |
|
thd |
oh I forgot they are supposed to show the edition so they need a plugin |
| 15:39 |
|
kados |
hmmm |
| 15:39 |
|
kados |
that is a bit too complicated |
| 15:39 |
|
thd |
ie edition of the classification |
| 15:39 |
|
kados |
yea, but how would I know what editions exist? |
| 15:39 |
|
thd |
ask me |
| 15:40 |
|
thd |
DDC is currently at 22 |
| 15:40 |
|
thd |
21 is still in common use |
| 15:41 |
|
kados |
the list os quite long |
| 15:41 |
|
kados |
we won't have time to check all of them |
| 15:41 |
|
kados |
I think we'll have to be satisfied with an authorized value for now |
| 15:42 |
|
thd |
kados, but edition is more important than that list of classifications for your customers |
| 15:42 |
|
kados |
edition of the classification? |
| 15:42 |
|
thd |
yes |
| 15:42 |
|
kados |
so it would be ddc22 ? |
| 15:43 |
|
thd |
format is a little different |
| 15:43 |
|
kados |
what ist he format? |
| 15:45 |
|
kados |
msdocs/1975 |
| 15:45 |
|
kados |
The code may be followed by the edition or date of publication of the source work. The code is separated from the edition or date by a slash (/). Omission of the year or edition will imply that the assigning institution used the most recent edition of the source work available. |
| 15:46 |
|
kados |
thd: fine, we can do it as a plugin |
| 15:48 |
|
thd |
kados: actually edition might only be used for $2 in 0XX where it is called edition because the field usually indicates classification already but that sees a little inconsistent |
| 15:48 |
|
kados |
if we do it as a plugin, it's easy to manupulate |
| 15:48 |
|
kados |
so lets do it as a plugin |
| 15:49 |
|
kados |
thd: here's our TODO: |
| 15:49 |
|
kados |
THD: add authorized value DPT to items.location |
| 15:49 |
|
kados |
THD: add plugin bookseller.pl to items.booksellerid |
| 15:49 |
|
kados |
THD: fix items.dateassessioned (put dateaccessioned.pl in plugin column) |
| 15:49 |
|
kados |
THD: add marc21_locationqualifier.pl to 952 $f |
| 15:49 |
|
kados |
THD: add marc21_classcodes.pl authorized value to 952 $2 |
| 15:49 |
|
kados |
THD: describe lcc vs ddc behavior |
| 15:49 |
|
thd |
kados: I believe that I have seen edition included as 852 $2 ddc; 21 |
| 15:50 |
|
kados |
*noted* |
| 15:52 |
|
kados |
thd: 'Call Number Prefix' . 'Classification Part' . 'Call Number Suffix' . 'Copy Number' |
| 15:52 |
|
kados |
thd: is that the appropriate concatenation of those elements? |
| 15:52 |
|
thd |
kados: some documentation can only be found in circulars from LC where questions about ambiguities or inconsistencies in the standard documentation are answered |
| 15:53 |
|
thd |
you are missing item part after the classification part |
| 15:53 |
|
kados |
ahh, right |
| 15:53 |
|
kados |
and that works the same way in lcc and ddc? |
| 15:54 |
|
thd |
kados: I already wrote a Perl script for that which I used for Afognak |
| 15:54 |
|
kados |
ok, can you send it to me? |
| 15:54 |
|
thd |
yes |
| 15:54 |
|
kados |
thx |
| 16:01 |
|
kados |
thd: I'm adding items.damaged |
| 16:01 |
|
kados |
thd: so please add that to your list :-) |
| 16:02 |
|
thd |
kados: I was going to put that in $f and remove location qualifier :) |
| 16:03 |
|
thd |
kados: I will remove call number suffix instead |
| 16:04 |
|
kados |
akk |
| 16:04 |
|
kados |
why? |
| 16:04 |
|
kados |
I thought we needed call number suffix |
| 16:04 |
|
thd |
kados: only to the extent we need everything |
| 16:05 |
|
thd |
kados: I have hardly ever noticed call number suffix used in real records |
| 16:08 |
|
kados |
it seems like $8 would be less frequently used in koha |
| 16:08 |
|
thd |
kados: I have never noticed coded location qualifier but that seems much more useful to know how many recent years/months/issues of a serial are kept at the serials desk |
| 16:08 |
|
thd |
kados: yes $8 would never be used in Koha except for preserving previous use |
| 16:08 |
|
kados |
or $3 |
| 16:09 |
|
kados |
I think we should remove those from 3.0 |
| 16:09 |
|
kados |
simply because they aren't used in koha |
| 16:09 |
|
thd |
kados $3 is important |
| 16:09 |
|
kados |
but we don't use it |
| 16:09 |
|
kados |
it will be in 3.2 |
| 16:09 |
|
thd |
and would be used by many people |
| 16:09 |
|
kados |
but doesn't belong in 3.0 I don't think |
| 16:09 |
|
kados |
Materials Specified refers to what? |
| 16:10 |
|
thd |
Journal of blabla 852 $3 v. 3-4 $call number $p barcode |
| 16:11 |
|
thd |
maybe I should put the parenthesis explanation back |
| 16:12 |
|
kados |
Materials specified should be linked to items.multivolumenumber |
| 16:13 |
|
thd |
$3 Materials designated (bound volume or other part) |
| 16:13 |
|
kados |
which we removed |
| 16:13 |
|
thd |
$3 Materials specified (bound volume or other part) |
| 16:13 |
|
kados |
we don't handle multi-part items right now |
| 16:13 |
|
kados |
we will in 3.2 |
| 16:13 |
|
kados |
so i think we shoudl remove this from 3.0 |
| 16:14 |
|
kados |
anyway, we're getting distrated :-) |
| 16:14 |
|
thd |
kados: this is not a record relationship issue |
| 16:14 |
|
thd |
kados: understanding this is important |
| 16:14 |
|
kados |
ok |
| 16:14 |
|
thd |
kados: everyone binds serials |
| 16:14 |
|
kados |
so $3 is used to store a human-only textual string |
| 16:14 |
|
thd |
almost everyone |
| 16:15 |
|
thd |
yes |
| 16:15 |
|
kados |
ok, that's fine |
| 16:15 |
|
thd |
so the patron/librarian knows what that is for |
| 16:16 |
|
kados |
ok, so we'll leave that in, and I've got a note to look into that when we do binding for serials |
| 16:16 |
|
kados |
so the issue is, where do we put items.damaged |
| 16:16 |
|
thd |
kados: it could also be used to designate a CD separately from the book with an empty back pocket all for the CD but all in the same record |
| 16:16 |
|
kados |
sure |
| 16:17 |
|
thd |
$m Call number suffix will go |
| 16:17 |
|
kados |
ok |
| 16:18 |
|
thd |
kados: If you have a customer using call number suffixes then it is probably infrequently and they might temporarily be stored with some delimiter in $z public note |
| 16:19 |
|
kados |
sure |
| 16:19 |
|
kados |
we can alwasy customize it for customers |
| 16:19 |
|
kados |
it's the rest of the community I worry about for 3.0 :-) |
| 16:19 |
|
thd |
:-) |
| 16:19 |
|
thd |
what rest? |
| 16:20 |
|
thd |
developers ? :) |
| 16:20 |
|
kados |
no, I mean the libraries running koha without support |
| 16:20 |
|
kados |
there are far more of those than supported ones |
| 16:20 |
|
kados |
by a factor of 5-6 at least |
| 16:20 |
|
kados |
anyway ... |
| 16:20 |
|
thd |
oh, well they have the mailing list and very friendly people to help |
| 16:21 |
|
kados |
THD: add authorized value DPT to items.location |
| 16:21 |
|
kados |
THD: add plugin bookseller.pl to items.booksellerid |
| 16:21 |
|
kados |
THD: fix items.dateassessioned (put dateaccessioned.pl in plugin column) |
| 16:21 |
|
kados |
THD: add marc21_locationqualifier.pl to 952 $f |
| 16:21 |
|
kados |
THD: add marc21_classcodes.pl authorized value to 952 $2 |
| 16:21 |
|
kados |
THD: describe lcc vs ddc behavior |
| 16:21 |
|
kados |
THD: add mapping for items.damaged |
| 17:19 |
|
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*** join #koha FreeNode: eloise212 n=aimecscpe-74-79-243-242.twcny.res.rr.com |
| 17:40 |
|
ryan |
thd: and kados: how about changing DPT to SHELF_LOC ? |
| 17:41 |
|
ryan |
DPT isn't hardcoded anymore... |
| 17:41 |
|
thd |
kados: that makes sense to me |
| 17:42 |
|
thd |
kados: do you concur with ryan's suggestion? |
| 17:43 |
|
thd |
kados: I will presume that you concur in the absence of signification otherwise :0 |
| 17:48 |
|
kados |
hi thd |
| 17:48 |
|
kados |
ryan: yea, that' fine |
| 17:49 |
|
kados |
ryan: just that the departments feature in Koha exists |
| 17:49 |
|
kados |
that's where the list comes from |
| 17:50 |
|
kados |
actually, departments seems to be missing now from 3.0 |
| 17:50 |
|
kados |
where did it go? |
| 17:51 |
|
kados |
thd: with SHELF_LOC stored in items.location, what is the purpose of items.stack? |
| 17:52 |
|
kados |
nevermind, it's the coded qualification of that |
| 17:52 |
|
thd |
what is the purpose of SHELF_LOC ? |
| 17:52 |
|
thd |
:0 |
| 17:52 |
|
kados |
i assumed some libraries use Shelving location |
| 17:52 |
|
kados |
like for instance, 'Circ Desk' |
| 17:53 |
|
kados |
or ... 'New Books Shelf' |
| 17:54 |
|
thd |
kados: I believe that shelf.location was already in use by Chis |
| 17:54 |
|
kados |
thd: did you remember that 'Call number' should be 'Koha Call number'? |
| 17:54 |
|
thd |
kados: yes |
| 17:54 |
|
kados |
thd: so are the frameworks finished? |
| 17:54 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 17:55 |
|
thd |
kados: or maybe Koha full call number would be better |
| 17:55 |
|
kados |
or do you want to explain the lcc and ddc stuff beforehand so I can decide what plugins I'll need? |
| 17:55 |
|
thd |
kados: I was writing an explanation of that in a comment at the beginning of a file with extracted code |
| 17:56 |
|
kados |
excellent |
| 18:13 |
|
kados |
thd: there are still some missing authorized values |
| 18:13 |
|
kados |
thd: items.itemlost => ITEMLOST |
| 18:14 |
|
kados |
items.damaged => DAMAGED |
| 18:14 |
|
kados |
items.notforloan => NOTFORLOAN |
| 18:15 |
|
thd |
kados: when I wrote those originally no one ever told me that there was a values table to report |
| 18:15 |
|
thd |
:) |
| 18:15 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 18:16 |
|
kados |
that's my fault |
| 18:18 |
|
kados |
thd: can we change the nomenclature a bit? |
| 18:18 |
|
kados |
instead of Item Status (withdrawn) |
| 18:18 |
|
kados |
Withdrawn Status |
| 18:19 |
|
kados |
instead of Item status (lost) |
| 18:19 |
|
kados |
Lost Status |
| 18:19 |
|
kados |
also, please label damaged as Damaged Status |
| 18:19 |
|
thd |
kados: that is not MARC 21 :) |
| 18:19 |
|
thd |
ok |
| 18:20 |
|
kados |
marc21 doesn't define more than one type of Item status :-) |
| 18:20 |
|
kados |
also, where is items.notforloan? |
| 18:21 |
|
thd |
kados: in MARC 21 different status types are stored in a repeatable status field |
| 18:21 |
|
thd |
kados: that would be in restricted |
| 18:22 |
|
kados |
it seems we have both items.restricted and items.notforloan |
| 18:22 |
|
kados |
hmmm |
| 18:23 |
|
thd |
('952', 'y', 'Use restrictions (not for loan)' |
| 18:23 |
|
kados |
ahh, ok |
| 18:23 |
|
kados |
it doesn't seem to be mapped to items.notforloan, is it? |
| 18:24 |
|
thd |
('952', 'y', 'Use restrictions (not for loan)', 'Use restrictions (not for loan)', 0, 0, 'items.notforloan', 10, '', '', '', 0, 0, '', '', '', NULL), |
| 18:24 |
|
kados |
ok |
| 18:24 |
|
kados |
thanks |
| 18:25 |
|
thd |
-- ('95k', 'y', 'Use restrictions (not for loan) (similar to 506 $a, 876-8 $h)' |
| 18:25 |
|
kados |
no! |
| 18:25 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 18:25 |
|
thd |
that was the explanation from the comment :) |
| 18:26 |
|
kados |
it seems items.restricted is used, but I don't see how to set it anywhere |
| 18:26 |
|
thd |
kados: is that not set by a script? |
| 18:27 |
|
thd |
s/a script/in the code/ |
| 18:27 |
|
kados |
it's not set anywhere |
| 18:27 |
|
kados |
but its used in circulation |
| 18:27 |
|
thd |
kados: I assumed that something triggers the setting |
| 18:28 |
|
kados |
no, I don't see any triggers |
| 18:28 |
|
kados |
what would it be good for? |
| 18:29 |
|
thd |
to keep the careless or dishonest from handling the especially fragile or valuable material without close supervision |
| 18:29 |
|
kados |
how does it differ from notforloan? |
| 18:29 |
|
thd |
kados: well they are not equal |
| 18:30 |
|
kados |
why? |
| 18:30 |
|
thd |
kados: reference material might be on an open shelf but not for loan |
| 18:30 |
|
kados |
restricted would be 'OK for adults', 'not OK for children' ? |
| 18:30 |
|
kados |
(or something like that) |
| 18:31 |
|
thd |
kados: restricted material might be in a special climate controlled vault with armed guards :) |
| 18:31 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 18:31 |
|
kados |
ok, I get it now |
| 18:31 |
|
kados |
give items.restricted an authorized value of RESTRICTED |
| 18:31 |
|
kados |
please |
| 18:31 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 18:31 |
|
thd |
OK |
| 18:45 |
|
kados |
russel: you really awake? |
| 19:00 |
|
paul_away |
hello new zealand ! |
| 19:00 |
|
paul |
chris around ? |
| 19:00 |
|
chris |
hi paul |
| 19:01 |
|
paul |
I suppose you're happy of the result of australia / england ;) |
| 19:01 |
|
chris |
a little |
| 19:02 |
|
paul |
I would never have bet 0.01¤ for this result ! |
| 19:02 |
|
chris |
me either |
| 19:02 |
|
russel |
hiya paul |
| 19:02 |
|
paul |
hiya russel |
| 19:02 |
|
paul |
strange to see all blacks in grey... |
| 19:03 |
|
paul |
my 1st son Simon says hello to you |
| 19:03 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 19:03 |
|
chris |
hello simon |
| 19:03 |
|
paul |
(simon : hello chris) |
| 19:04 |
|
kados |
hi paul |
| 19:04 |
|
kados |
hi simon :-) |
| 19:04 |
|
paul |
hi kados |
| 19:04 |
|
paul |
you"re looking for the match too ? |
| 19:04 |
|
kados |
hehe, no |
| 19:06 |
|
chris |
ouch |
| 19:06 |
|
chris |
head in the wrong place in that tackle |
| 19:06 |
|
paul |
yep. KO... |
| 19:06 |
|
paul |
what time is it for you exactly ? |
| 19:06 |
|
chris |
8.06am |
| 19:09 |
|
paul |
ouch... seems really KO. |
| 19:09 |
|
chris |
yeah |
| 19:11 |
|
paul |
not that far... |
| 19:11 |
|
chris |
nope was worth a shot |
| 19:12 |
|
paul |
is it rugby or soccer ?? |
| 19:12 |
|
chris |
hehe finals rugby always lots of kicking |
| 19:13 |
|
chris |
everyone to nervous |
| 19:17 |
|
chris |
hmmm |
| 19:17 |
|
paul |
should do 3-0 |
| 19:17 |
|
chris |
the ref likes to blow the whistle for rucks |
| 19:18 |
|
paul |
(simon says : it's not all blacks, but all greys !) |
| 19:19 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 19:19 |
|
paul |
(simon laught...) |
| 19:19 |
|
paul |
in french we call that a "cocotte" |
| 19:20 |
|
paul |
when 4-X players advances hidding the ball |
| 19:20 |
|
paul |
n the middle of them |
| 19:20 |
|
chris |
ahh |
| 19:21 |
|
paul |
houhou... |
| 19:21 |
|
chris |
i think he was out |
| 19:21 |
|
paul |
yep |
| 19:21 |
|
paul |
yes... |
| 19:21 |
|
paul |
in french "ouf" ! |
| 19:23 |
|
paul |
10-0 ! |
| 19:23 |
|
chris |
macalister is playing the best ive seen him |
| 19:24 |
|
paul |
could have choosen another day !!!!! |
| 19:24 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 19:25 |
|
paul |
the score reflect the play for instance |
| 19:27 |
|
chris |
hmm this stadium has always had bad grass |
| 19:27 |
|
paul |
the TV says one of the all blacks will play in england next year, and thus never more play for all blacks ? |
| 19:28 |
|
paul |
when you leave NZ you can't be all black anymore ??? |
| 19:28 |
|
chris |
yeah |
| 19:28 |
|
paul |
wow, very strict ! |
| 19:28 |
|
chris |
you can come back and play in z |
| 19:28 |
|
chris |
nz |
| 19:28 |
|
chris |
and then become one again |
| 19:28 |
|
paul |
ah, ok |
| 19:28 |
|
chris |
like troy flavel did |
| 19:29 |
|
chris |
so not quite never again, but never if you are old :-) |
| 19:29 |
|
paul |
hi hdl ? |
| 19:30 |
|
hdl |
salut paul. |
| 19:30 |
|
hdl |
En train de regarder le match ? |
| 19:30 |
|
paul |
looking for the match ? |
| 19:30 |
|
paul |
yep, of course. |
| 19:30 |
|
paul |
and chatting with chris ;) |
| 19:30 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 19:30 |
|
paul |
sweet dreams |
| 19:30 |
|
hdl |
I hope the best will win. |
| 19:31 |
|
hdl |
seen 5 minutes. |
| 19:31 |
|
hdl |
And it seems NZ are really having the hand over the match. |
| 19:31 |
|
hdl |
already |
| 19:31 |
|
paul |
yep. but in 99 the match started like that as well |
| 19:31 |
|
hdl |
So Happy chat. |
| 19:32 |
|
paul |
sweet dreams to you |
| 19:33 |
|
paul |
the kiwi was out with the ball. should have be for us. |
| 19:33 |
|
chris |
the officials arent doing so well so far |
| 19:36 |
|
paul |
the ref is right for this |
| 19:36 |
|
paul |
wow... 43m... |
| 19:36 |
|
chris |
right in front |
| 19:38 |
|
chris |
hmm i think maybe michalak for the 2nd half |
| 19:40 |
|
paul |
yellow card ? |
| 19:41 |
|
paul |
could have had one... |
| 19:42 |
|
paul |
3 "touches" missed... |
| 19:42 |
|
chris |
this is the danger time, just before halftime |
| 19:43 |
|
paul |
oh no ! |
| 19:44 |
|
kados |
what happened? |
| 19:44 |
|
chris |
maybe too nervous? |
| 19:44 |
|
paul |
a french missed a penalty, it's the 2nd one that was not that hard |
| 19:44 |
|
paul |
(although not as easy as possible) |
| 19:46 |
|
chris |
crazy kick |
| 19:46 |
|
paul |
kados : score is 13-0, and a succesful penalty is 3 points |
| 19:46 |
|
chris |
the all blacks have gone mental |
| 19:46 |
|
paul |
crazy kick ! nice word ! |
| 19:46 |
|
paul |
yep. |
| 19:47 |
|
paul |
a new one (crazy kick)... |
| 19:48 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 19:48 |
|
paul |
then half time |
| 19:48 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 19:48 |
|
paul |
47m ! |
| 19:48 |
|
russel |
but it is straight |
| 19:48 |
|
paul |
13-3 |
| 19:48 |
|
chris |
maybe he can kick only hard ones |
| 19:48 |
|
russel |
:-) |
| 19:48 |
|
paul |
lol |
| 19:48 |
|
russel |
man it is a bit stop start |
| 19:48 |
|
russel |
too much kicking |
| 19:49 |
|
chris |
yeah |
| 19:49 |
|
paul |
see you back soon, I go to cook the bread for tomorrow morning |
| 19:49 |
|
chris |
yum |
| 19:50 |
|
chris |
made me hungry for breakfast :) |
| 19:55 |
|
paul |
there is an ad with zinedine zidane playing rugby ! |
| 19:55 |
|
paul |
he makes everything wrong. |
| 19:55 |
|
paul |
very very poor |
| 19:55 |
|
paul |
at the end, he scores a goal with the head & is very happy. |
| 19:55 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 19:55 |
|
paul |
except it's a "soccer goal"... |
| 19:55 |
|
paul |
so the trainer is quite disappointed ! |
| 20:04 |
|
paul |
!!!! |
| 20:04 |
|
chris |
better play from france |
| 20:04 |
|
paul |
yep |
| 20:05 |
|
paul |
3m |
| 20:05 |
|
paul |
2m |
| 20:05 |
|
chris |
card i think |
| 20:05 |
|
paul |
in french it's "anti-jeu" |
| 20:06 |
|
paul |
yep. yellow card |
| 20:09 |
|
paul |
in french "un petit pas, un petit tas" |
| 20:10 |
|
paul |
"a small step, a small group" |
| 20:10 |
|
chris |
pick and go in nz |
| 20:10 |
|
chris |
stupid pass |
| 20:11 |
|
paul |
yes, but 3 or 4 minuts left... |
| 20:11 |
|
paul |
kudos to the blacks |
| 20:11 |
|
chris |
yes used up time |
| 20:12 |
|
paul |
szarzesky & chabal should enter soon says the TV |
| 20:12 |
|
paul |
??? the ball was out already isn't it ? |
| 20:12 |
|
chris |
yeah these officials are crazy |
| 20:12 |
|
paul |
strange referees decisions... |
| 20:13 |
|
slef |
hi all |
| 20:13 |
|
paul |
hi slef |
| 20:14 |
|
slef |
so, who wants to lose to England next? |
| 20:14 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 20:14 |
|
paul |
lol ! |
| 20:14 |
|
slef |
and will this match be won by the referees? |
| 20:14 |
|
chris |
looks like it so far |
| 20:14 |
|
paul |
lol again ! |
| 20:14 |
|
chris |
strange decisions |
| 20:14 |
|
paul |
slef : referees are engladers if i don't mind |
| 20:15 |
|
slef |
shame they have the roof closed... no lights visible from my office (so I'm sat in the lounge) |
| 20:15 |
|
slef |
actually, it's probably too misty to see Cardiff anyway |
| 20:15 |
|
paul |
yeah !!!! |
| 20:15 |
|
slef |
tryyyy |
| 20:16 |
|
slef |
heh, paul cheered before they scored here... I wonder how many satellite hops are involved for the pictures to reach me... maybe 1, maybe 3 |
| 20:16 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 20:16 |
|
slef |
funny given I have line-of-sight to the stadium |
| 20:17 |
|
slef |
ow, that was close |
| 20:17 |
|
paul |
... |
| 20:17 |
|
paul |
kados : 13-13 ... |
| 20:19 |
|
paul |
? the referee has taken a good decision ! |
| 20:19 |
|
paul |
everything happend !! |
| 20:19 |
|
paul |
(probably a frenchism...) |
| 20:22 |
|
slef |
refs: 3 england, 1 safrican, 1 irish...odd mix |
| 20:22 |
|
paul |
3 englands on the field if I don't mind. dunno which it the TV ref |
| 20:23 |
|
slef |
2 englands, 1 safrican on the field; tv ref is english |
| 20:23 |
|
slef |
paul: you watching on analogue tv? |
| 20:23 |
|
paul |
yep |
| 20:23 |
|
slef |
that's most of the reason you're faster than me then ;-) |
| 20:24 |
|
paul |
2055 ! |
| 20:24 |
|
slef |
cycle racing++ |
| 20:25 |
|
slef |
listened fr-nz 2000-2030 on radio though |
| 20:25 |
|
slef |
another try |
| 20:25 |
|
paul |
try ! |
| 20:25 |
|
chris |
try! |
| 20:25 |
|
slef |
did refs see it, though |
| 20:25 |
|
chris |
tv ref must |
| 20:26 |
|
slef |
guess so, from the cheer |
| 20:26 |
|
paul |
another strange descision ? |
| 20:26 |
|
slef |
yikes, the ref only looks 12 |
| 20:26 |
|
paul |
'from the refs) |
| 20:26 |
|
chris |
how can it take this long |
| 20:27 |
|
chris |
? |
| 20:27 |
|
russel |
w00t |
| 20:27 |
|
paul |
missed |
| 20:28 |
|
slef |
there is no kiwi wilkinson... |
| 20:28 |
|
chris |
he's subbed off |
| 20:28 |
|
paul |
subbed ??? |
| 20:28 |
|
russel |
evans should be kicking |
| 20:28 |
|
chris |
substituted |
| 20:30 |
|
paul |
yo ! |
| 20:30 |
|
slef |
there is no kiwi flood? |
| 20:30 |
|
paul |
well don ekiwi |
| 20:30 |
|
paul |
& well done froggy as well |
| 20:30 |
|
chris |
yep, 1 more inch |
| 20:30 |
|
paul |
but it was limit.. |
| 20:31 |
|
paul |
(another frenchism i'm afraid...) |
| 20:31 |
|
slef |
hrm, what animal are england rugby? |
| 20:31 |
|
slef |
england football is lions, but lions are british in rugby... |
| 20:31 |
|
chris |
ogre? |
| 20:31 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 20:31 |
|
slef |
lawyers ;-) |
| 20:31 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 20:32 |
|
paul |
haha |
| 20:32 |
|
paul |
yeah ! |
| 20:32 |
|
slef |
disturbing number of lawyers and military officers in england rugby over the years |
| 20:32 |
|
paul |
yeah ! |
| 20:32 |
|
paul |
yeah ! |
| 20:32 |
|
paul |
yeah ! |
| 20:32 |
|
slef |
wow |
| 20:32 |
|
slef |
out of nothing |
| 20:32 |
|
chris |
forward pass |
| 20:32 |
|
paul |
yep |
| 20:32 |
|
paul |
I think you"re right |
| 20:32 |
|
paul |
just at the beginning |
| 20:32 |
|
chris |
the ref has a lot to answer for |
| 20:33 |
|
slef |
yep |
| 20:33 |
|
chris |
i dont think he will be reffing again |
| 20:33 |
|
paul |
probably |
| 20:33 |
|
slef |
won't be able to - england will be too involved ;-) |
| 20:33 |
|
paul |
france behind ! |
| 20:33 |
|
slef |
er, ahead? |
| 20:33 |
|
paul |
kados : 20-18 |
| 20:33 |
|
paul |
sorry |
| 20:33 |
|
paul |
ahead, right |
| 20:34 |
|
slef |
10mins to go |
| 20:34 |
|
slef |
ack, called to kitchen |
| 20:35 |
|
paul |
! |
| 20:35 |
|
paul |
kick of the century ! |
| 20:36 |
|
chris |
momentum shifted to france here |
| 20:37 |
|
paul |
the last 5mn will be loooooonnnnggggg ... |
| 20:38 |
|
slef |
1 penalty needed |
| 20:38 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 20:39 |
|
chris |
but we dont have our 2 best kickers |
| 20:39 |
|
paul |
do you have a pass counter on your TV ? |
| 20:39 |
|
chris |
no |
| 20:39 |
|
paul |
it's 13th |
| 20:39 |
|
paul |
14th |
| 20:39 |
|
paul |
16th |
| 20:39 |
|
paul |
17th |
| 20:40 |
|
paul |
19th |
| 20:40 |
|
chris |
cmon |
| 20:40 |
|
paul |
cmon ? |
| 20:40 |
|
paul |
21th |
| 20:40 |
|
chris |
yelling at the tv |
| 20:40 |
|
chris |
come on nz |
| 20:41 |
|
paul |
ouf !!! |
| 20:41 |
|
chris |
jeez |
| 20:41 |
|
chris |
what is the touch judge doing |
| 20:41 |
|
slef |
smoking pot |
| 20:41 |
|
chris |
hands on the ground |
| 20:41 |
|
slef |
I hear it's easy to get around the stadium |
| 20:41 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 20:42 |
|
paul |
2mn to go ... |
| 20:43 |
|
paul |
maybe 3 |
| 20:45 |
|
chris |
:( |
| 20:45 |
|
paul |
... |
| 20:45 |
|
chris |
well i wont be sending the ref a christmas card |
| 20:45 |
|
chris |
but well played france |
| 20:46 |
|
paul |
yeah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:47 |
|
paul |
france win ! |
| 20:47 |
|
paul |
after 7 misses against blacks. |
| 20:47 |
|
paul |
but i'm not that proud of that victory |
| 20:47 |
|
chris |
i think there will be lots of talk |
| 20:47 |
|
chris |
about the officials |
| 20:47 |
|
paul |
semi final : no more than 1 team of southern hemis |
| 20:48 |
|
paul |
probably the 1st time this happends |
| 20:48 |
|
chris |
argentina and south africa |
| 20:48 |
|
chris |
2 maybe |
| 20:49 |
|
paul |
I was just counting NZ/AUS/SAF |
| 20:49 |
|
paul |
the 3 best teams in the world |
| 20:49 |
|
paul |
2 eliminated ! |
| 20:49 |
|
chris |
i think SAF will win from here |
| 20:50 |
|
slef |
nah, eng to retain |
| 20:50 |
|
slef |
;-) |
| 20:50 |
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| 20:50 |
|
paul |
ok, time to go to bed for frenchies. |
| 20:50 |
|
chris |
gnight |
| 20:51 |
|
paul |
(sincerely) |
| 20:51 |
|
russel |
night paul |
| 20:51 |
|
paul |
gday russel |
| 20:51 |
|
russel |
well played france |
| 20:51 |
|
chris |
ill be happy again in a few hours |
| 20:51 |
|
chris |
but it probably cost the nz economy a few million $ |
| 20:51 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 20:51 |
|
paul |
the TV sing a famous french song : "we all are going to paradise" |
| 20:52 |
|
paul |
"you and me" |
| 04:48 |
|
Brooke |
what's up? |
| 05:30 |
|
chris |
hi hdl |
