| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:26 |
|
kados |
morning owen |
| 12:26 |
|
paul |
hello kados |
| 12:26 |
|
kados |
hi paul |
| 12:26 |
|
paul |
& owen |
| 12:28 |
|
kados |
paul: re: 1446 ... very strange you don't have this prob with unimarc, esp since we found the prob and it's in the code! |
| 12:28 |
|
paul |
you're completly right |
| 12:28 |
|
kados |
since there was another bulkmarcimport error |
| 12:28 |
|
kados |
also |
| 12:29 |
|
kados |
it's a clear indication to us that 3.0 w/kohastructure.sql is != to what you use with updatedatabase |
| 12:30 |
|
kados |
paul: also, I don't think it's a good idea to omit the nozebra table |
| 12:31 |
|
kados |
paul: and create/populate it 'on the fly' |
| 12:31 |
|
paul |
(on phone) |
| 12:31 |
|
owen |
Hi guys |
| 12:31 |
|
kados |
hiya owen |
| 12:31 |
|
owen |
Busy weekend, hunh? 8:30 AM Monday and I"m already behind! |
| 12:31 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 12:31 |
|
kados |
yea, we did some testing this weekend |
| 12:32 |
|
kados |
this week should be a busy one on #koha, koha-devel and git |
| 12:41 |
|
paul |
(back) |
| 12:42 |
|
paul |
kados : OK to add nozebra table to kohastructure.sql if you think it's useful. |
| 12:43 |
|
kados |
also other missing tables |
| 12:43 |
|
kados |
and please note the kohastructure.sql changes I made over the weekend |
| 12:43 |
|
kados |
some column defs were listed as NOT NULL |
| 12:43 |
|
kados |
and I changed them to default NULL |
| 12:43 |
|
kados |
because they broke bulkmarcimport |
| 12:44 |
|
kados |
also, could you explain the additional columns in biblioitems? |
| 12:44 |
|
kados |
what are they used for? |
| 12:44 |
|
paul |
to store serial collections informations |
| 12:45 |
|
paul |
to be able to show them easily. Those fields are often requested by libraries, for example in the result list. |
| 12:45 |
|
paul |
hdl wrote that in july, and, iirc, spoke of this with you. |
| 12:45 |
|
kados |
so there are new mappings to create? |
| 12:45 |
|
paul |
(I was in holidays, he told me that on phone, I may be wrong) |
| 12:46 |
|
paul |
yes! |
| 12:46 |
|
kados |
k |
| 12:46 |
|
paul |
a question from me now : |
| 12:46 |
|
paul |
about khastructure.sql, you say in 1448 that browser table is not here. |
| 12:46 |
|
paul |
but I see it in git |
| 12:46 |
|
kados |
I'm just reporting what I find |
| 12:46 |
|
kados |
when I run the script |
| 12:46 |
|
paul |
s/tag/browser/ sorry. |
| 12:47 |
|
paul |
browser is missing, you're right. |
| 12:47 |
|
paul |
but tags (comment #1 of 1448) |
| 12:48 |
|
kados |
the hierarchy feature fails for another reason? |
| 12:48 |
|
kados |
from my brief look at the code, the hierarchy feature relies on the browser table too |
| 12:48 |
|
kados |
all I know is it don't work :-) |
| 12:49 |
|
kados |
I was just guessing why |
| 12:49 |
|
paul |
ah, ok, I misunderstood. |
| 12:49 |
|
paul |
the hierarchy feature works with the "browser" table, it's right |
| 12:50 |
|
kados |
paul: also, you use a mysqldump to generate your sysprefs |
| 12:50 |
|
kados |
in the data/fr dir |
| 12:50 |
|
kados |
this means that there's no way to easily track changes to sysprefs |
| 12:50 |
|
kados |
and it's also not easy to see what is different between english and french sysprefs |
| 12:50 |
|
kados |
I'd highly suggest you create and maintain a human-readable sysprefs.sql file |
| 12:52 |
|
paul |
I've seen the problem. And I think I should at least use some flags to have a more easily human readable dump, you're right. |
| 12:52 |
|
paul |
(+ maybe it could solve the commit problem i have with those accented chars) |
| 12:53 |
|
paul |
are you OK to add a new step in the installer (to let the user choose between zebra & nozebra ?) |
| 12:53 |
|
kados |
sure |
| 12:53 |
|
kados |
as long as it doesn't break the installer :-) |
| 12:54 |
|
paul |
nobody's perfect, but i'll try ! |
| 12:54 |
|
paul |
ah, kados, a BIG NEWS ! |
| 12:54 |
|
paul |
it's finally here ! |
| 12:55 |
|
paul |
you won't believe it, but it's live since this morning. |
| 12:55 |
|
paul |
. |
| 12:55 |
|
paul |
. |
| 12:55 |
|
paul |
. |
| 12:55 |
|
paul |
http://www.mediathequeouestprovence.fr/ |
| 12:55 |
|
kados |
wow, funny |
| 12:55 |
|
paul |
click on "catalogue & ressources" to reach Koha (or search in "Rechercher sur", radio "le catalogue" |
| 12:56 |
|
paul |
it's done with typo3 |
| 12:56 |
|
kados |
hehe, it's broken for me |
| 12:56 |
|
kados |
firefox rejects the popul |
| 12:56 |
|
kados |
popup |
| 12:56 |
|
kados |
Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIDOMHTMLFormElement.submit]" nsresult: "0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)" location: "JS frame :: http://www.mediathequeouestpro[…]te/rechercher.php :: onload :: line 1" data: no] |
| 12:56 |
|
paul |
! right, same for me ! |
| 13:03 |
|
hdl |
kados : About change in authorities frameworks, I did it last year. |
| 13:03 |
|
hdl |
It was to prepare a merge between biblios and authorities management. |
| 13:04 |
|
hdl |
Merge which is not good now. |
| 13:04 |
|
hdl |
But still, some features are really useful. |
| 13:04 |
|
hdl |
a) it enables ppl to link an authority with an other one, just like biblios. |
| 13:05 |
|
kados |
I'd like to see 'a)' in action |
| 13:05 |
|
kados |
do you have an example? |
| 13:05 |
|
hdl |
(frameworkcode is used as authtypecode for authorities. I could not find a good name : relatedauthorities.) |
| 13:05 |
|
hdl |
(could be) |
| 13:06 |
|
hdl |
Not live. |
| 13:07 |
|
paul |
kados : http://koha.mediathequeouestpr[…]koha/opac-main.pl |
| 13:11 |
|
hdl |
Could be soon live when authorities framework input will be based on biblios framework. |
| 14:32 |
|
kados |
hdl: could you explain that? |
| 14:32 |
|
kados |
hdl: authorities framework input based on biblios framework? |
| 14:33 |
|
hdl |
I have to add [...] after a subfield if subfield is linked to an authtypecode and open an auth_finder.pl window |
| 14:34 |
|
kados |
in the marc editor? |
| 14:46 |
|
thd |
kados: if the [...] link is doing something useful for your users now, it should be more noticeable than 3 dots are. |
| 14:47 |
|
kados |
hdl: I'm still unclear whether you're adding that to the biblio or authorities editor |
| 14:48 |
|
hdl |
kados: marceditor for authorities |
| 14:52 |
|
hdl |
kados ? |
| 14:53 |
|
kados |
hdl: so the ... would allow you to link two authorities? |
| 14:53 |
|
hdl |
yes. |
| 14:54 |
|
kados |
as peers or in a hierarchy? |
| 14:54 |
|
hdl |
a 550 field would contain Broader term, Specific term or see also depending on $5 value |
| 14:54 |
|
hdl |
(to be an authorised_value list) |
| 14:55 |
|
hdl |
thd... Do you confirm that $5 USMARC-A contains relation code ? |
| 14:56 |
|
hdl |
For UNIMARC $5 contains g for generic, h for specific, nothing for peer |
| 15:03 |
|
kados |
I'd like to see an easy way to link peer authority records for doing, e.g., multi-language authorities |
| 15:03 |
|
kados |
one in turkish, one in english |
| 15:03 |
|
kados |
afaik, that's a manual process right now |
| 15:04 |
|
thd |
hdl: In MARC 21 that would be the first position of 450 or 550 $w |
| 15:05 |
|
hdl |
thd is there many positions in $w ? |
| 15:06 |
|
hdl |
tumer did some work about that. |
| 15:07 |
|
hdl |
But you have then 2 thesaurii (1 for each language) and you link different authorities. |
| 15:07 |
|
kados |
paul: did you revive stopwords? |
| 15:07 |
|
kados |
pauor just for NoZebra? |
| 15:08 |
|
paul |
kados : yes. and not just for nozebra. |
| 15:08 |
|
kados |
hmmm |
| 15:08 |
|
kados |
will it die if you have no stopwords defined? |
| 15:08 |
|
paul |
Search now removes stopwords before sending the query to zebra |
| 15:08 |
|
thd |
hdl: 4XX - 5XX $w is perhaps variable length but if position 0, the first position, is filled then it may include the relationship of the tracing or reference to the main heading of the authority |
| 15:08 |
|
paul |
kados : I hope no, but haven't tested, that's true ;-) |
| 15:09 |
|
thd |
hdl: there are up to 4 optional positions for 4XX-5XX $w |
| 15:11 |
|
thd |
hdl: For linking fields 7XX, $w functions like UNIMARC $3 and contains the control number of the linked record |
| 15:14 |
|
thd |
hdl: In MARC 21 $5 contains the institution code in case the particular field is only meant to apply to a particular institution. I have never noticed a real MARC 21 record using $5. |
| 15:17 |
|
thd |
paul: what happens to a title query when the title contains only stopwords? |
| 15:19 |
|
thd |
paul: Andy Warhol has a novel entitled "A". Stephen King wrote a novel entitled "It". |
| 15:26 |
|
kados |
Opera has a publication called "O" |
| 15:26 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 15:31 |
|
owen |
Opera -> Oprah |
| 15:32 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 15:33 |
|
paul |
maybe we should remove stopwords only for word search, not for exact search. Could that be correct ? |
| 15:34 |
|
paul |
or, if there is no answer, re-query with empty words included |
| 15:47 |
|
kados |
IMO, stopwords should be configured at the index level |
| 18:18 |
|
owen |
Will/Should a z39.50 search from addbiblio work if the ISBN is hyphenated? |
| 18:24 |
|
owen |
kados: did you test addbiblio over the weekend? |
| 18:24 |
|
kados |
it _should_ work with hyphens |
| 18:24 |
|
kados |
if it doesn't, let me know |
| 18:25 |
|
owen |
I just tried adding a biblio and it didn't work. It looked like it was working...it forwarded on to additem |
| 18:37 |
|
owen |
No Amazon features in 3.0? |
| 18:38 |
|
owen |
Oh, I see the sysprefs now |
| 19:18 |
|
hdl |
owen : did you have an error ? |
| 19:18 |
|
hdl |
I had the same problem with my installation. But it was a problem of field missing in biblioitems |
| 19:19 |
|
owen |
An entry was created in the biblio table, but not in biblioitems. Should a line be created in biblioitems even if there are no items yet? |
| 19:20 |
|
owen |
The way I discovered the problem was that after saving the biblio I tried to enter an item and that failed. When I went back to check for the biblio details on catalogue/detail.pl, nothing showed up |
| 19:22 |
|
hdl |
owen : yes, a line in biblioitems should be created even if no item is created. |
| 19:22 |
|
hdl |
It is biblioitems which contains marcrecord. |
| 19:22 |
|
owen |
That's what I thought. No entry in biblioitems was created. |
| 19:23 |
|
hdl |
In fact, you have biblio = Title author and primary information |
| 19:23 |
|
hdl |
biblioitems = editor, editionstatement asoasf |
| 19:23 |
|
hdl |
(itemtype is in biblioitems) |
| 19:24 |
|
owen |
I wonder if it's a frameworks problem? When I try to change the framework in addbiblio.pl, several come up blank |
| 19:25 |
|
hdl |
We could say that Koha COULD be ready for a kind of FRBRization... (If we managed multiple biblioitems for one biblio, which we donot do anymore.) |
| 19:25 |
|
hdl |
owen : did you have acces to logs ? |
| 19:25 |
|
hdl |
Don't you have any mysql error ? |
| 19:25 |
|
owen |
I'll try adding again and see if I can see an error |
| 19:28 |
|
owen |
I can't see anything in the logs, but I'm not sure I'm looking in the right place. I'd have to double-check with kados, since it's his testing server |
| 19:34 |
|
kados |
owen: the log in your home dir is the right one |
| 19:36 |
|
owen |
[Mon Oct 01 14:27:25 2007] [error] [client 66.213.78.34] [Mon Oct 1 14:27:25 2007] addbiblio.pl: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'editionresponsibility' in 'field list' at /home/oleonard/koha/production/intranet/modules/C4/Biblio.pm line 3495., referer: http://staff.oleonard/cgi-bin/[…]0=1&breedingid=34 |
| 19:36 |
|
owen |
[Mon Oct 01 14:27:26 2007] [error] [client 66.213.78.34] [Mon Oct 1 14:27:26 2007] additem.pl: COUNT8 at value_builder/barcode.pl line 83., referer: http://staff.oleonard/cgi-bin/[…]0=1&breedingid=34 |
| 19:51 |
|
kados |
owen: you need to reinstall |
| 19:51 |
|
owen |
Whee. |
| 19:51 |
|
kados |
owen: that's the error the ryan fixed a couple days ago |
| 19:52 |
|
kados |
it's a db-level prob |
| 19:52 |
|
kados |
owen: how much data have you put into your system? |
| 19:52 |
|
owen |
I'd happily wipe the system if we could get Zebra working in the process |
| 19:52 |
|
kados |
ok, lets do it |
| 04:47 |
|
Irma |
Hi all...I am looking for Russel. Is he around? |
| 09:02 |
|
chris |
lol |
| 09:03 |
|
masonj |
:) |
| 09:03 |
|
chris |
did you read pauls latest email mason? |
| 09:04 |
|
chris |
google translates it as |
| 09:04 |
|
chris |
ASSOCIATION OF FOND OF DELICACIES OF FROG THIGHS |
| 09:04 |
|
chris |
thats classic |
| 09:05 |
|
masonj |
ohh man , thats cute |
| 09:06 |
|
chris |
i had escargot though |
| 09:06 |
|
masonj |
still reading!.... |
| 09:08 |
|
paul |
hello folks ! |
| 09:08 |
|
paul |
frog legs are something very sweet. |
| 09:08 |
|
paul |
(less keen of escargots) |
| 09:09 |
|
masonj |
i havent tried either |
| 09:12 |
|
chris |
ill have to visit again paul, and we can go out for frog legs :) |
| 09:14 |
|
chris |
and creme brulee |
| 09:14 |
|
chris |
i think i had creme brulee every second day :) |
| 09:32 |
|
paul |
chris : not that good for your health to eat creme brulee every 2nd day ;-) |
| 09:32 |
|
chris |
lucky i was only there for 2 weeks :) |
| 09:33 |
|
paul |
chris : 3 patches in your mailbox. |
| 09:33 |
|
chris |
pain au chocolat in the morning, creme brulee at night |
| 09:34 |
|
chris |
cool ill go look |
| 09:36 |
|
chris |
cool nice patches, ive pushed them up to the RM repo |
| 09:36 |
|
chris |
so when kados wakes up ;) |
| 09:40 |
|
paul |
the france => NZ => US workflow is not timezone optimized... |
| 09:42 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 09:42 |
|
chris |
means there is always someone working :) |
| 09:42 |
|
chris |
http://www.wellingtonnz.com/Re[…]rdeaux+Bakery.htm |
| 09:42 |
|
chris |
best pain au chocolat in wellington |
| 09:43 |
|
chris |
ahh new caledonia is close |
| 09:43 |
|
paul |
the main NC library (bernheim) moves to Koha |
| 09:43 |
|
chris |
very cool |
| 09:43 |
|
paul |
with most the small ones. Could be the 1st "Koha country" ;-) |
| 09:43 |
|
chris |
soon the whole pacific, so far its the cook islands |
| 09:43 |
|
chris |
samoa |
| 09:43 |
|
chris |
fiji |
| 09:44 |
|
chris |
and new caledonia |
| 09:44 |
|
paul |
chris, did you see : http://www.mediathequeouestprovence.fr/ |
| 09:44 |
|
paul |
? |
| 09:44 |
|
paul |
(click on "catalogue & ressources") |
| 09:45 |
|
paul |
same in french as in english... |
| 09:45 |
|
chris |
ohhh cool |
| 09:46 |
|
chris |
nice and fast |
| 09:46 |
|
chris |
6 books about maori :) |
| 09:46 |
|
chris |
thats very cool paul |
| 09:47 |
|
paul |
(not from me at all) |
| 09:47 |
|
chris |
tell bruno and arnaud congratulations on a great site when you see them |
| 09:49 |
|
chris |
its very fast, all the way to new zealand |
| 09:50 |
|
chris |
so must be super fast there |
| 09:54 |
|
chris |
ok, i think bedtime for me, have a good day paul |
| 09:54 |
|
paul |
bye & good day |
| 09:54 |
|
paul |
bye & good night |
| 09:56 |
|
masonj |
yes, the new koha looks stunning |
| 09:56 |
|
rach |
v nce paul |
| 09:56 |
|
paul |
hello rach & masonj |
| 09:56 |
|
masonj |
heya rach :) |
| 09:57 |
|
rach |
hi ya |
| 09:58 |
|
rach |
ah finally ben is asleep |
| 09:58 |
|
paul |
rach : our daylight change in in 3 weeks... |
| 09:59 |
|
rach |
somehow we have managed to get going to bed at old time combined with getting up at new time :-( |
| 09:59 |
|
rach |
which makes the night seem v short |
| 10:00 |
|
rach |
it just changed last weekend |
| 10:00 |
|
rach |
ah but finally si has managed to get ben to sleep so now I can head off |
| 10:00 |
|
paul |
sweet night |
| 10:01 |
|
rach |
have a good day :-) |
