| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:05 |
|
Brooke |
howdy |
| 13:26 |
|
kados |
morning pecisk, owen, Brook |
| 13:26 |
|
owen |
Hi kados |
| 13:34 |
|
kados |
slef++ for all the responses on the lists |
| 13:36 |
|
paul |
kados : 'morning to you. |
| 13:37 |
|
paul |
do you have a minut to speak of template modifs ? |
| 13:40 |
|
paul |
(owen : if you're around, you can answer my questions as well I suppose) |
| 13:41 |
|
owen |
Sure |
| 13:48 |
|
paul |
g'morning owen |
| 13:49 |
|
paul |
http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]/koha/mainpage.pl (login abel / abel) |
| 13:49 |
|
paul |
is the uptodate git repo afaik |
| 13:49 |
|
paul |
I have some questions about what is done and what is not done. |
| 13:49 |
|
paul |
the left menu sometimes appear (like in mainpage.pl), sometimes not (like in http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]/members-home.pl) |
| 13:49 |
|
paul |
what is correct ? |
| 13:50 |
|
paul |
on members-home.pl, there is a koha logo, with a form (Search patrons / Check out) |
| 13:50 |
|
owen |
Our new design has the left-hand menu space changing based on the context of the page |
| 13:50 |
|
paul |
sometimes there is no form (http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]alogue/search.pl) |
| 13:50 |
|
owen |
I'm in the process of adding the form to almost all pages |
| 13:51 |
|
paul |
sometimes the form contains other values (http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]c/circulation.pl) |
| 13:51 |
|
owen |
The primary form action will change based on the context of the page |
| 13:51 |
|
paul |
so there should usually be one ? |
| 13:52 |
|
paul |
mmm... let's speak of things one after each other... so, the left menu... |
| 13:52 |
|
paul |
on catalogue/search.pl, there is none |
| 13:52 |
|
paul |
on circ/circulation.pl, there is a small one |
| 13:53 |
|
paul |
on http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]qui/acqui-home.pl there is a small one PLUS the previous complete one. |
| 13:53 |
|
owen |
We haven't finished sorting that out |
| 13:53 |
|
owen |
Almost none of the left-hand menus are correct at the moment |
| 13:54 |
|
paul |
OK, so there should be no "old" menu on the left once done, right ? |
| 13:54 |
|
owen |
Yes, that's the plan |
| 13:54 |
|
paul |
sounds OK. |
| 13:54 |
|
paul |
about the primary form, what will it contain ? |
| 13:55 |
|
paul |
why, for example, is there Check out and Search the catalog on http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]rc/circulation.pl |
| 13:56 |
|
paul |
and Search Patrons / Check out and Search the catalog at http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]s/members-home.pl |
| 13:56 |
|
kados |
hi paul |
| 13:56 |
|
paul |
is it unfinished, or there's something i'm missing ? |
| 13:56 |
|
kados |
the global search is contextual |
| 13:56 |
|
owen |
the idea is that the primary search action changes based on the primary purpose of the module |
| 13:56 |
|
kados |
the options will change depending on the module you're in |
| 13:57 |
|
kados |
we're supporing 'habitability' for users that will always go to the same place to do a search |
| 13:57 |
|
kados |
even if the search is fr a different thing |
| 13:57 |
|
paul |
habitability ? (I understand the word, it's the same in gfrench, but not what you mean) |
| 13:58 |
|
kados |
users form habits |
| 13:58 |
|
kados |
we want to support those habits in the design |
| 13:58 |
|
kados |
to make it easier for users to perform a given function |
| 13:58 |
|
paul |
it's like usability ? |
| 14:00 |
|
kados |
it's one part of usability |
| 14:00 |
|
kados |
w00t |
| 14:00 |
|
kados |
paul++ |
| 14:00 |
|
kados |
has hdl made progress on member entry? |
| 14:00 |
|
paul |
today & friday, hdl is demo-ing Koha to a MAJOR library : BSG |
| 14:01 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 14:01 |
|
paul |
(Bibliothèque Sainte Geneviève) |
| 14:01 |
|
paul |
(more than 1 million documents...) |
| 14:01 |
|
kados |
that's great, paul |
| 14:01 |
|
paul |
yes, he did a lot of progress on member entry, but on previous templates. |
| 14:01 |
|
paul |
so we can't commit it for instance. |
| 14:02 |
|
kados |
it should be simple to convert, only about 15 lines or so |
| 14:02 |
|
paul |
I think we will wait until you've stabilised the stuff. |
| 14:02 |
|
kados |
header, and footer |
| 14:02 |
|
kados |
sure |
| 14:02 |
|
paul |
probably, but if we try to cherry-pick, it fails miserabily. iirc I had to do port manually 5 of the 13 commits |
| 14:03 |
|
paul |
(but that was easy, I agree. Easier than solving failed automatic merges ;-) ) |
| 14:03 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 14:04 |
|
paul |
http://coupe-du-monde-de-rugby[…]s-tonga-live.html |
| 14:04 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 14:04 |
|
paul |
(15-25 vs tonga) |
| 14:04 |
|
kados |
wow |
| 14:04 |
|
kados |
go tonga |
| 14:05 |
|
paul |
kados & owen : do you have a timeline to finish the template stuff ? |
| 14:07 |
|
kados |
I think those items will take longer than the template modifs |
| 14:07 |
|
kados |
esp since the template modifs are fairly incremental |
| 14:07 |
|
kados |
(once we get the global elements done) |
| 14:08 |
|
kados |
(and they are nearly done I think, maybe 2-3 modules left?) |
| 14:11 |
|
kados |
paul: did you see MJ's comments on koha-dev about updating? |
| 14:12 |
|
paul |
nope I go now to read them |
| 14:15 |
|
paul |
kados : you speak of the aug,31 mail, isn't it ? |
| 14:16 |
|
kados |
yes |
| 14:31 |
|
paul |
answered |
| 14:35 |
|
paul |
kados : about the release = OK, but the timeline for the template stuff is important for us, as the memberentry will be after. |
| 14:35 |
|
paul |
so is it a question of a few days or a few weeks ? |
| 14:36 |
|
paul |
(not sure it's not a frenchism...) |
| 14:38 |
|
paul |
hello slef |
| 14:38 |
|
slef |
So who wants to answer that dual-database question from koha.lists.katipo? |
| 14:38 |
|
slef |
hi paul |
| 14:43 |
|
kados |
slef: the Jon Bek one? |
| 14:51 |
|
kados |
sent |
| 14:52 |
|
kados |
sorry in advance for top posting |
| 14:52 |
|
kados |
I didn't have time to convert his html email into text and reformat :-) |
| 15:07 |
|
paul |
kados / owen, about memberentry (rewritted) |
| 15:07 |
|
paul |
I could deal with hdl commit & new structure |
| 15:07 |
|
paul |
Here is the result : |
| 15:07 |
|
paul |
http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]d&category_type=A |
| 15:07 |
|
paul |
BUT : |
| 15:08 |
|
paul |
Personal Information / Contacts / Library management are javascript, that is supposed to show & hide part of the template |
| 15:08 |
|
paul |
(like the main form) |
| 15:08 |
|
paul |
Can I use the main form we spoke with owen previously for this ? |
| 15:08 |
|
paul |
and how do I do exactly ? |
| 15:09 |
|
kados |
paul: could we make the 'three tabs' feature an option? |
| 15:09 |
|
paul |
??? |
| 15:09 |
|
kados |
I know several libraries in the US don't like to have to fill out more than one page |
| 15:09 |
|
kados |
(even if it's just one page really) |
| 15:10 |
|
owen |
That could be handled with custom CSS+custom js |
| 15:10 |
|
kados |
(they don't want it split into 3 pages) |
| 15:10 |
|
slef |
kados: thanks. |
| 15:10 |
|
paul |
owen : custom means specific CSS, or there is already something somewhere ? |
| 15:10 |
|
slef |
and +1 to simplifying forms and stripping out js ;-) |
| 15:11 |
|
owen |
slef: progressive enhancement |
| 15:11 |
|
owen |
paul: I'm using a jquery plugin to manage tabs (including the resident search form) |
| 15:13 |
|
owen |
http://stilbuero.de/jquery/tabs/ |
| 15:16 |
|
owen |
Paul, do you want to send me what you have and I'll finish the process of setting up the tabs? |
| 15:18 |
|
paul |
owen send by mail or through git ? |
| 15:19 |
|
paul |
OK, done |
| 15:19 |
|
paul |
can kados accept patch immediatly or do we need to wait for chris ? |
| 15:20 |
|
paul |
(he should be sleeping now, was looking at the rugby match with Laurel, so should be consolating her) |
| 15:20 |
|
kados |
paul: send it directly to me |
| 15:21 |
|
kados |
or you can send it to owen actually |
| 15:21 |
|
paul |
owen, what is your preferred mail ? |
| 15:21 |
|
owen |
oleonard myacpl.org |
| 15:21 |
|
paul |
oleonard at myacpl.org ? |
| 15:22 |
|
paul |
ok, sent |
| 15:27 |
|
owen |
Thanks paul |
| 15:55 |
|
CGI860 |
Hi there, I am looking for web-based OSS that can help me organize my eBook collection. I am hoping to be able to browse by subject or author and search by title, etc. Does Koha fit that bill? |
| 16:12 |
|
owen |
CGI860: How big is your collection? |
| 16:25 |
|
CGI860 |
10000+ |
| 16:25 |
|
owen |
Wow, you really could use a system for help! |
| 16:25 |
|
CGI860 |
I need storage of the files, and the ability to download them from the interface. |
| 16:26 |
|
owen |
One question to ask is whether Koha comes with more stuff than you really need--acquisitons, reports, patron management, etc. |
| 16:26 |
|
CGI860 |
I don't need "checkout/checkin" or physical inventory. |
| 16:26 |
|
CGI860 |
Yeah, I am sure it does. |
| 16:26 |
|
owen |
Yeah... And Koha right now doesn't have a system for storing electronic resources. |
| 16:26 |
|
CGI860 |
But I can ignore stuff I dont need, as long as it does do the stuff I do need. :-) |
| 16:27 |
|
owen |
...Although I think Katipo has a product for that? I'm not sure if it's been released. |
| 16:27 |
|
CGI860 |
Oh. Well that pretty much wraps up that discussion. |
| 16:27 |
|
CGI860 |
Oh? |
| 16:27 |
|
CGI860 |
What is that? |
| 16:27 |
|
owen |
I don't see it on their site, so I could be making that up: http://katipo.co.nz/solutions/ |
| 16:28 |
|
CGI860 |
Hmmm... oh well. |
| 16:28 |
|
owen |
Catch chris or rach when New Zealand wakes up and ask one of them |
| 16:28 |
|
CGI860 |
Any other pointers of possible products that you know of that I might check out? |
| 16:28 |
|
owen |
Nothing I know of, but my library doesn't manage electronic resources in that way so I'm out of the loop |
| 16:29 |
|
CGI860 |
Ah well. Thanks anyway for trying. |
| 17:08 |
|
slef |
erm, oops |
| 17:08 |
|
slef |
I think I just went in a bit hard on Rick. |
| 17:16 |
|
slef |
kados++ for the dual-db answer, it seems |
| 17:16 |
|
slef |
/names |
| 17:16 |
|
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*** #kohaFreeNode names: [K] rangi ru55el |
| 02:36 |
|
masonj |
nice |
