| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:22 |
|
kados |
morning #koha |
| 12:22 |
|
jaron |
morning, kados |
| 12:23 |
|
kados |
hiya |
| 12:23 |
|
kados |
bout time for some coffee ... I'll bbiab |
| 13:16 |
|
hdl |
morning kados |
| 13:16 |
|
hdl |
morning owen |
| 13:46 |
|
martinmorris |
hello, whoever's there got a question about fuzzy searching in the intranet and catalogue |
| 13:58 |
|
martinmorris |
well, if anybody sees this, i have, for example, an author 'Petőfi, Sándor' and i'd like users to be able to search under just 'Petofi' without knowing about the accent on the 'o' - any ideas? |
| 14:00 |
|
jaron |
martinmorris: this is an issue I've encountered as well, but never had a chance to investigate. |
| 14:00 |
|
martinmorris |
fair enough jaron (hello btw) |
| 14:01 |
|
jaron |
let me know if you discover anything. |
| 14:01 |
|
martinmorris |
will do :) |
| 14:01 |
|
jaron |
it'd be nice to have those characters indexed by their latin1 counterparts without the diacritics |
| 14:01 |
|
martinmorris |
definitely |
| 14:02 |
|
jaron |
I'm sure it's possible but unsure if something like that would be worked into 2.2. I wonder if zebra can handle this better? |
| 14:02 |
|
owen |
I know the developers have discussed this issue before, but I'm not sure what the current status is |
| 14:03 |
|
jaron |
owen: yeah, it's not trivial to implement for sure. |
| 14:04 |
|
martinmorris |
i'm tempted to automatically put something in 700$a without the accents for each case, but it's not idea by any means |
| 14:05 |
|
jaron |
it looks like for zebra you can create a huge mapping file string.chr which would do this. |
| 14:05 |
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martinmorris |
that's good |
| 14:05 |
|
martinmorris |
brb |
| 14:11 |
|
jaron |
martinmorris: see: http://www.indexdata.com/zebra[…]ter-map-files.tkl |
| 14:12 |
|
jaron |
what you want may be possible with the zebra index without changing your records. |
| 14:14 |
|
jaron |
If you were to change your records now to include latin1 characters for indexing you may see if there's something in the MARC standard for that. I doubt it though. Otherwise you might choose a local field in the 9XX range and then change your MARC framework to also search that field. |
| 14:15 |
|
jaron |
1XX and 7XX should either be the authorized form or if there is no authority file the form as it appears on the piece. |
| 14:35 |
|
hdl |
jaron : you are not far from the solution. |
| 14:35 |
|
hdl |
But you would have to reindex after changing the character map file. |
| 14:36 |
|
jaron |
hdl: you're talking zebra? |
| 14:36 |
|
hdl |
btw, zebra and rel30 is supposed to use utf8 and not latin1. |
| 14:36 |
|
hdl |
jaron : quite |
| 14:37 |
|
jaron |
hdl: of course utf8 but there's overlap with the ascii (or whatever) set. |
| 14:37 |
|
hdl |
not for accented characters |
| 14:37 |
|
hdl |
afaik |
| 14:38 |
|
jaron |
hdl: yes, but what martinmorris wants would map characters from accented characters to non-accented ones |
| 14:38 |
|
jaron |
the one problem I see is that there's more than one way to normalize diacritics in utf8 |
| 14:38 |
|
jaron |
composed and decomposed |
| 14:39 |
|
jaron |
the MARC21 standard seems to want decomposed characters to make the round trip back to MARC-8 more possible. |
| 14:41 |
|
jaron |
and I haven't looked at character mapping in zebra enough to know how it would handle that. |
| 14:41 |
|
jaron |
hdl: but it's good to know I was on the right track :) |
| 14:43 |
|
hdl |
owen : how do you manage your opac home page for athens ? |
| 14:44 |
|
owen |
What in particular? |
| 14:44 |
|
owen |
Much of it is done by customizing the OpacMainUserBlock system preference |
| 14:45 |
|
owen |
I have to edit the template directly to get the right-hand sidebar extras in there. |
| 14:48 |
|
toins |
perhaps a npl specific one ? |
| 14:48 |
|
owen |
It's dev-week specific |
| 14:49 |
|
owen |
If there's no updatedatabase for dev-week then it may not be in there by default |
| 14:50 |
|
hdl |
and we didnot install devweek in france. |
| 14:51 |
|
owen |
Yeah, dev-week is pretty much a dead-end I think |
| 14:53 |
|
owen |
I think it's great to be able to manage that area of the OPAC with whatever content I want |
| 14:53 |
|
owen |
It's much more flexible and library-friendly than trying to fill that space with hard-coded OPAC stuff |
| 14:59 |
|
hdl |
I am OK with this feature. |
| 14:59 |
|
hdl |
But I would like to port it to opac rel_3_0 |
| 15:00 |
|
hdl |
Is it easiliy understandable and is the use easy for a librarian ? |
| 15:00 |
|
owen |
No :) |
| 15:00 |
|
owen |
It's just a textarea for pasting HTML markup |
| 15:01 |
|
owen |
I suppose you could use something like TinyMCE or FCKEditor to make it a more usable |
| 15:03 |
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owen |
There are a few instances now of system preferences which expect HTML markup as input, it might not be a bad idea |
| 15:41 |
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| 18:10 |
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owen |
kados around? |
| 19:10 |
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| 23:04 |
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jamesa |
greetings martin |
| 23:06 |
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martinmorris |
hi jamesa |
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darcilicious |
ooooh. |
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chris |
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