| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 13:30 |
|
kados |
morning all |
| 13:30 |
|
jaron |
good morning |
| 13:30 |
|
jaron |
that's ok. i'm still waiting to hear from russel. |
| 13:31 |
|
kados |
that's cool |
| 13:32 |
|
kados |
lately I find it's best to do things when I think of them |
| 13:32 |
|
kados |
or they just get put off |
| 13:32 |
|
kados |
ok, it's uninstalled :-) |
| 13:32 |
|
jaron |
yeah, I'm trying to incorporate more of a "when you touch it, deal with it" approach |
| 14:38 |
|
paul |
seems nongnu disks are full : impossible to update or commit anything : |
| 14:38 |
|
paul |
cannot open z3950_search.pl |
| 14:38 |
|
paul |
No space left on device |
| 14:39 |
|
paul |
kados around ? mason seems to be able to commit. So am I the only one with those messages ? |
| 15:09 |
|
jaron_away |
paul: remember that today the americans--at least the red blooded ones--are drinking beer, eating bbq meats and setting off little explosions and rockets. |
| 15:10 |
|
jaron_away |
so it might be difficult to get a hold of the americans today. |
| 15:40 |
|
paul |
after "born a 4th of july", we have now "full a 4th of july" |
| 15:54 |
|
martinmorris |
afternoon all |
| 15:55 |
|
martinmorris |
i've been asking a question about name authorities in koha few times, put in a bug request yesterdy |
| 15:55 |
|
martinmorris |
just wondering if any authority experts are around so I can throw the question at them? :) |
| 15:55 |
|
martinmorris |
it's bug id #1370 if anybody sees this, ta |
| 16:05 |
|
jaron_away |
martinmorris: you still there? |
| 16:05 |
|
martinmorris |
hi jaron |
| 16:05 |
|
martinmorris |
how you? |
| 16:05 |
|
jaron_away |
I'm not certain that Koha 2.2 does see and see also references. |
| 16:05 |
|
jaron_away |
fine. |
| 16:06 |
|
jaron |
and you? |
| 16:06 |
|
martinmorris |
yeah good thanks |
| 16:06 |
|
martinmorris |
that would be a shame if it didn't |
| 16:06 |
|
martinmorris |
what about the 0 biblios thing? |
| 16:07 |
|
jaron |
So you have definitely linked that authority record to a biblio? |
| 16:07 |
|
martinmorris |
absolutely |
| 16:07 |
|
paul |
do yo uhave a $9 (hello martinmorris) |
| 16:07 |
|
paul |
? |
| 16:08 |
|
martinmorris |
i set it up so that when i go into the biblio - there are three dots (...) after the 100a field |
| 16:08 |
|
martinmorris |
yes I do |
| 16:08 |
|
martinmorris |
it was there already paul |
| 16:08 |
|
martinmorris |
(hello) |
| 16:08 |
|
paul |
because it's the $9, that is filled with the authid, that is used to calculate the # biblios |
| 16:08 |
|
martinmorris |
let me check it's set up properly |
| 16:09 |
|
martinmorris |
ok, how can i check it's set up properly? |
| 16:10 |
|
martinmorris |
do i put 100a in the Link box? |
| 16:10 |
|
jaron |
no. |
| 16:10 |
|
paul |
when you report the authority, so you see that it is filled with a number ? |
| 16:10 |
|
martinmorris |
what do you mean, when i report the authority? is that when i link it to the biblio? |
| 16:10 |
|
martinmorris |
i'm sure the concept is the same paul, thanks for your help |
| 16:11 |
|
paul |
when you click on the ..., then select an authority, the authority (author name, surname, ...) is reported. |
| 16:11 |
|
martinmorris |
let me do that now and check |
| 16:11 |
|
paul |
and the authid is reported on $9 |
| 16:11 |
|
martinmorris |
i don't remember seeing that must admit |
| 16:11 |
|
jaron |
I wonder if you view the complete record (or export it and look at it) the $9 field should have something in it |
| 16:12 |
|
martinmorris |
ok, i've got the pop-up with the name authority in now... |
| 16:13 |
|
martinmorris |
i can't see an authority number anywhere |
| 16:14 |
|
jaron |
it should be a hidden field in your framework so you might not see it there. |
| 16:14 |
|
martinmorris |
i can send a screen shot if that would help? |
| 16:14 |
|
martinmorris |
of my 100$9 and the authority popup? |
| 16:14 |
|
jaron |
try exporting the record first and see if you see the 100$9 then. |
| 16:15 |
|
martinmorris |
ok will do |
| 16:16 |
|
jaron |
brb |
| 16:16 |
|
martinmorris |
'k |
| 16:25 |
|
jaron |
anything? |
| 16:27 |
|
martinmorris |
i'm trying to dump it using a perl script but it's being difficult |
| 16:27 |
|
martinmorris |
i can send it over? |
| 16:28 |
|
jaron |
sure |
| 16:28 |
|
jaron |
you can also try: |
| 16:28 |
|
jaron |
yaz-marcdump file.mrc |
| 16:28 |
|
jaron |
and that'll pretty print it to screen |
| 16:28 |
|
martinmorris |
ah, amazing :) |
| 16:28 |
|
martinmorris |
right, there's no 100$9 field in there |
| 16:28 |
|
paul |
or $KOHA/scripts/dumpmarc -f file.mrc ;-) |
| 16:29 |
|
martinmorris |
noted :) |
| 16:29 |
|
jaron |
ls |
| 16:29 |
|
paul |
then check your framework, field 100, subfields. |
| 16:29 |
|
martinmorris |
yep, i'm there |
| 16:29 |
|
paul |
how is $9 defined ? |
| 16:29 |
|
martinmorris |
there's definitely no subfield 9 |
| 16:29 |
|
paul |
then it can't work... |
| 16:29 |
|
paul |
add it pls |
| 16:30 |
|
martinmorris |
well, it's in the marc structure |
| 16:30 |
|
paul |
which koha version are u using ? 2.2.9 ? |
| 16:30 |
|
martinmorris |
yes |
| 16:30 |
|
paul |
npl templates ? or default ones ? |
| 16:30 |
|
martinmorris |
npl |
| 16:31 |
|
martinmorris |
is $9 meant to be linked to something? |
| 16:32 |
|
paul |
nope, it's automatic |
| 16:32 |
|
paul |
just define it. |
| 16:32 |
|
paul |
if another subfield is "connected" to authorities, then the $9 is automatically managed for this field |
| 16:33 |
|
martinmorris |
i have my 100$a connected to my PN thesaurus, which is my personal names authority list |
| 16:33 |
|
martinmorris |
and with a Koha link to biblio.author |
| 16:33 |
|
paul |
sounds OK |
| 16:33 |
|
martinmorris |
$9 has very little configured |
| 16:34 |
|
martinmorris |
it's hidden (-5) |
| 16:34 |
|
martinmorris |
and the two texts are defined, and that's it |
| 16:34 |
|
paul |
it's OK |
| 16:34 |
|
martinmorris |
perhaps unhide it and see what it loosk like in a biblio? |
| 16:34 |
|
paul |
good idea |
| 16:34 |
|
jaron |
might help |
| 16:34 |
|
martinmorris |
assume it'll be empty but will see |
| 16:35 |
|
martinmorris |
yep, it's empty |
| 16:37 |
|
martinmorris |
100$9 doesn't need mentioning in the marc structure of my authorities does it? |
| 16:38 |
|
jaron |
dunno |
| 16:38 |
|
martinmorris |
:) |
| 16:38 |
|
paul_away |
time to leave for frenchies... |
| 16:38 |
|
paul_away |
bye & good problem hunting martinmorris |
| 16:38 |
|
martinmorris |
thanks paul |
| 16:50 |
|
martinmorris |
one other question - when using bulkauthimport.pl - do i need to specify into which thesaurus? |
| 16:50 |
|
martinmorris |
can't see an option for it but mine fails when i try to import an authority |
| 16:57 |
|
martinmorris |
ignore me, solved it :) |
| 16:58 |
|
jaron |
what was your solution? |
| 16:58 |
|
jaron |
last I used it I had to modify the script |
| 16:58 |
|
martinmorris |
the problem was that bulkauthimport.pl expected an NP thesaurus, i had to modify it to PN (Personaj Nomoj) after which it worked like a treat |
| 17:00 |
|
jaron |
ok |
| 17:10 |
|
martinmorris |
interestingly, on that problem, i've just imported a name authority from LOC, linked it to a biblio, and now it's correctly reporting that 1 biblio is usign the authority |
| 17:11 |
|
martinmorris |
perhaps there's a field in the name authority i've not been adding |
| 17:11 |
|
martinmorris |
just a thought |
| 17:11 |
|
martinmorris |
100$9 was also populated with the correct biblio number |
| 17:11 |
|
jaron |
or possibly ones that you add manually are not correct? |
| 17:11 |
|
jaron |
I'd add that info to your bug report |
| 17:16 |
|
martinmorris |
cheers |
| 20:59 |
|
chris |
morning |
| 21:01 |
|
kados |
hey chris |
| 21:02 |
|
kados |
sweet |
| 22:28 |
|
JYL57 |
Hi koha world |
| 22:29 |
|
chris |
hi |
| 22:29 |
|
JYL57 |
Hi Chris |
| 22:29 |
|
JYL57 |
It's been a while now and I'm in mood to upgrade my koha version |
| 22:30 |
|
JYL57 |
What about the long wished 3.0 version ?! |
| 22:30 |
|
JYL57 |
Should be out soon or still time to install a 2.2.9 |
| 22:30 |
|
chris |
there should be a beta release of that in the next couple of weeks |
| 22:30 |
|
chris |
what version are you running now? |
| 22:31 |
|
JYL57 |
2.2 |
| 22:31 |
|
chris |
2.2.? |
| 22:31 |
|
JYL57 |
Well not sure 2.2.4 maybe |
| 22:31 |
|
chris |
right 2.2.9 will have a bunch of bugfixes, and a couple of new features |
| 22:31 |
|
JYL57 |
I'm using my test box so I can't check it right now |
| 22:32 |
|
JYL57 |
And mysql 5 is correctly supported ? |
| 22:32 |
|
kados |
might not be in the release itself |
| 22:33 |
|
chris |
nope its all in cvs, but didnt make it in the 2.2.9 release if you get the code from the rel_2_2 |
| 22:33 |
|
kados |
it is in CVS |
| 22:33 |
|
chris |
cvs branch |
| 22:33 |
|
chris |
its all good |
| 22:33 |
|
kados |
2.2.10 should correct that |
| 22:33 |
|
JYL57 |
hey kados |
| 22:33 |
|
kados |
hiya JYL57 |
| 22:33 |
|
kados |
JYL57: where ya fron? |
| 22:33 |
|
kados |
from even :-) |
| 22:33 |
|
JYL57 |
Paul would release a 2.2.10 before the 3.0 |
| 22:34 |
|
JYL57 |
From Metz, north East France |
| 22:34 |
|
chris |
(if you have a test box and want to try 3.0 .. you can try following this http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=22_to_30) |
| 22:34 |
|
chris |
but i wouldnt do it on a production machine :) |
| 22:35 |
|
JYL57 |
Well, I'm still wondering what to choose... |
| 22:35 |
|
chris |
if i was you, i would wait for 2.2.10 |
| 22:35 |
|
chris |
upgrade to that |
| 22:35 |
|
kados |
yea |
| 22:36 |
|
kados |
me too |
| 22:36 |
|
kados |
JYL57: you planning to install this for a production environment? |
| 22:36 |
|
chris |
then wait for a full 3.0 release ... unless you want to play around and expect to find some things broken |
| 22:37 |
|
JYL57 |
Well we run a public library with koha in production so I will not break anything soon... |
| 22:38 |
|
JYL57 |
But I'm still very curious and would like to see the new functions... |
| 22:39 |
|
JYL57 |
Is it sensible to install both versions 2.2.9 (or 10) and another 3.0 on the same box ?! |
| 22:39 |
|
chris |
if it was in production i wouldnt |
| 22:40 |
|
JYL57 |
nope I was thinking on using my test box |
| 22:40 |
|
chris |
just in case i made a mistake and killed the database |
| 22:40 |
|
chris |
ahh in that case yep |
| 22:40 |
|
JYL57 |
both versions will coexist without trouble ?! |
| 22:40 |
|
chris |
yep, if they have their own database each |
| 22:41 |
|
JYL57 |
ok, I can manage that |
| 22:41 |
|
JYL57 |
Is there any 3.0 archive or should I use the last CVS ? |
| 22:42 |
|
chris |
latest cvs |
| 22:45 |
|
kados |
JYL57: if you want to try out 3.0 I can give you a package |
| 22:45 |
|
JYL57 |
well Ok kados, I've not yet installed any workbench so |
| 22:46 |
|
kados |
workbench? |
| 22:46 |
|
JYL57 |
Eclipse fan |
| 22:46 |
|
JYL57 |
Do you want my email ? |
| 22:47 |
|
JYL57 |
Or maybe you can lead me to the proper URL ? |
| 22:49 |
|
JYL57 |
The link from 2.2 to 3.0 doesn't talk about MARC specificities ?! |
| 22:51 |
|
kados |
JYL57: the package I have is built for debian sarge or etch |
| 22:52 |
|
JYL57 |
Super ! I'm using etch since a few hours... :-) |
| 22:52 |
|
kados |
http://kados.org/stuff/koha_zoom_0.4.tar.gz |
| 22:52 |
|
kados |
follow the README.txt in the archive |
| 22:53 |
|
kados |
and let me know how it works! |
| 22:55 |
|
JYL57 |
Ok kados, downloading... Will give it a try in the next few days and will keep you informed ! thanks ! |
| 22:56 |
|
kados |
JYL57++ |
| 22:57 |
|
JYL57 |
Ok see you guys and have a nice day ! |
| 22:57 |
|
chris |
cya |
| 23:02 |
|
kados |
figure might as well have more eyes on that |
| 23:03 |
|
chris |
yep thats the main reason i wanted a developer release, more ppl looking at it faster bugs are found |
| 23:05 |
|
kados |
so you think naming it beta is a mistake? |
| 23:05 |
|
chris |
google has runied beta :) |
| 23:05 |
|
kados |
what about pre-alpha, alpha, stable? |
| 23:05 |
|
kados |
or ... |
| 23:05 |
|
kados |
development, testing, stable |
| 23:05 |
|
chris |
thats what id do |
| 23:06 |
|
kados |
space them out by two months |
| 23:06 |
|
chris |
development its pretty clear we dont expect you to use it in production |
| 23:06 |
|
kados |
the hardest one is gonna be 3.0 itself |
| 23:06 |
|
kados |
getting enough of the issues resolved before the scheduled release is gonna be a challenge |
| 23:07 |
|
kados |
it's right buggy atm :-) |
| 23:07 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 23:07 |
|
chris |
i think getting the development release (which your package pretty much is) |
| 23:08 |
|
chris |
being used by more ppl, and getting bugs reported is the only way they are going to get fixed |
| 23:08 |
|
kados |
yea |
| 23:08 |
|
kados |
the package works great for debian |
| 23:08 |
|
chris |
thats the thing with a development release |
| 23:08 |
|
kados |
I'm hoping MJ can make one that works for other platforms |
| 23:08 |
|
chris |
it doesnt have to work for everything yet |
| 23:08 |
|
kados |
true |
| 23:13 |
|
chris |
i can do a full koha day on 3.0 bugs next week, if someone has reported a bunch :) |
| 23:25 |
|
kados |
I've been making a list |
| 23:25 |
|
kados |
I'll add them to bugzilla soon |
| 23:25 |
|
chris |
sweet |
| 23:25 |
|
chris |
called my bluff :) |
| 23:26 |
|
kados |
heh |
| 00:26 |
|
jaron |
anyone around know how to get the public facing z39.50 zebra server working? |
| 00:26 |
|
chris |
for 2.2? |
| 00:26 |
|
chris |
i must admit i havent tried in ages |
| 00:26 |
|
jaron |
3 |
| 00:26 |
|
chris |
ahh zebra? |
| 00:27 |
|
jaron |
yes |
| 00:27 |
|
chris |
that should be just a matter of editing the koha.xml file |
| 00:27 |
|
jaron |
ok, if I mimic what was done for biblios I should be good? |
| 00:28 |
|
chris |
yep there should be a section in there already for the public one eh? |
| 00:28 |
|
jaron |
no, just the listen line for it |
| 00:29 |
|
chris |
hmm 2 secs ill just go look in my cvs checkout |
| 00:29 |
|
jaron |
once I uncommented it, I was able to connect to the server but immediately disconnected. |
| 00:31 |
|
chris |
yeah i reckon if copy what is set up for the biblioserver |
| 00:31 |
|
chris |
but u will anonymous access |
| 00:31 |
|
jaron |
actually I'm wanting to play with extended services :) |
| 00:31 |
|
chris |
in that case u want :) |
| 00:31 |
|
chris |
wont even |
| 00:32 |
|
jaron |
ok, let me give that a go and see what happens... |
| 00:44 |
|
jaron |
ok, copied and pasted biblioserver xml and s/biblioserver/publicserver/ and then restarted zebraserver and was allowed to connect. |
| 00:45 |
|
jaron |
But I figured the database name was 'koha' but even after adding that to zebra-biblio.cfg I get an error saying the database is unavialable |
| 00:47 |
|
chris |
hmm |
| 00:48 |
|
jaron |
well, let me see what I can do first... |
| 00:59 |
|
jaron |
I'm wanting to add biblios to the database but the marc structure is broken. any other way I can get biblios into the database? Already tried import into reservoir. |
| 00:59 |
|
chris |
hmm dont think you can if the structure is broken |
| 00:59 |
|
jaron |
ok, I might just be outta luck until that's fixed |
| 02:07 |
|
jaron |
finally, I was able to insert (and delete) a record into a zebra database. Not sure if it's the correct one. Of course doesn't show up in the catalog, so who knows where it is. |
| 02:10 |
|
jaron |
in any case, that's enough for tonight. |
| 02:10 |
|
jaron |
g'night |
| 02:10 |
|
chris |
night |
| 09:09 |
|
Fallor |
hi |
| 09:09 |
|
dewey |
privet, Fallor |
| 09:44 |
|
chris |
hi Fallor |
| 10:08 |
|
Fallor |
hi chris |
| 10:27 |
|
Fallor |
have you ever installed Koha on SELinux server |
| 10:27 |
|
Fallor |
(CentOS) |
| 10:28 |
|
Fallor |
it's terrible :D |
| 10:28 |
|
chris |
ive installed on redhat |
| 10:29 |
|
Fallor |
same thing |
| 10:29 |
|
Fallor |
it seems to break addbiblio |
| 10:29 |
|
Fallor |
and z3950 search |
| 10:29 |
|
Fallor |
at least |
| 10:29 |
|
chris |
probably the z3950 stuff |
| 10:29 |
|
chris |
the Net::Z3950::Zoom module |
| 10:30 |
|
chris |
its all the 3rd party stuff thats the hardest to install |
| 10:30 |
|
Fallor |
hmm |
| 10:30 |
|
Fallor |
did you manage to get it working? |
| 10:30 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 10:30 |
|
chris |
its been in production for hmm 1.5 years |
| 10:31 |
|
Fallor |
but then you have a lot more experience than i do ;) |
| 10:31 |
|
chris |
http://www.rangitikeilibrary.org.nz/ |
| 10:31 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 10:31 |
|
chris |
been doing it for hmm nearly 8 years now hehe |
| 10:32 |
|
chris |
you getting any sort of useful error in the error logs? |
| 10:34 |
|
Fallor |
well selinux tells me that search.pl wants to access resolv.conf and suggests creating a local security policy for it |
| 10:35 |
|
chris |
hmm |
| 10:36 |
|
chris |
yeah sometimes selinux is a little over the top |
| 10:36 |
|
Fallor |
and that i should run "setsebool -P httpd_unified=1" to make addbiblio.pl working |
| 10:37 |
|
Fallor |
setsebool has absolutely no effect whatsoever |
| 10:37 |
|
Fallor |
also a strange thing is that with SELinux koha tries to find value_builder directory from a wrong place |
| 10:37 |
|
Fallor |
it works just fine without SELinux |
| 10:38 |
|
Fallor |
and then there are the strange noises... ;D |
| 10:38 |
|
chris |
hmm i cant remember how i got it to work, wish id written it down |
| 10:39 |
|
chris |
i think i saw a blog about this recently, lemme check if i can find it |
| 10:40 |
|
Fallor |
i tried searching the net but without much luck |
| 10:43 |
|
chris |
http://www.kohadocs.org/Instal[…]ha_on_Fedora.html |
| 10:43 |
|
chris |
anything in there useful? |
| 10:44 |
|
chris |
http://osdir.com/ml/misc.koha/[…]-01/msg00025.html <-- suggests disabling selinux for httpd |
| 10:45 |
|
Fallor |
that's the last option then |
| 10:45 |
|
Fallor |
nothing really useful in the above document |
| 10:45 |
|
Fallor |
I already have the contexts set correctly |
| 10:45 |
|
chris |
right |
| 10:46 |
|
Fallor |
I'll first try to set cgi-scripts to run without SELinux |
| 10:47 |
|
Fallor |
maybe that'll do the trick |
| 10:47 |
|
chris |
good idea |
| 11:02 |
|
Fallor |
Z39.50 search still gives internal server error |
| 11:04 |
|
Fallor |
but that could be because of the remote Z39.50 server |
| 11:04 |
|
Fallor |
at least there are no selinux alerts in syslog anymore |
