| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:00 |
|
hdl |
hi |
| 12:00 |
|
dewey |
hi, hdl |
| 15:22 |
|
paul |
kados around ? |
| 15:24 |
|
kados |
hi paul |
| 15:31 |
|
hdl |
hi kados |
| 15:31 |
|
kados |
hi hdl |
| 15:32 |
|
paul |
kados : a zebra question : |
| 15:32 |
|
paul |
I have some problems I don't remember having before... |
| 15:32 |
|
paul |
I have : |
| 15:32 |
|
paul |
- zebra 2.0.12 |
| 15:32 |
|
paul |
- record.abs containing : |
| 15:32 |
|
paul |
melm 200$atitle:w,title:p,title:s |
| 15:33 |
|
paul |
melm 606subject-heading,subject-heading:p |
| 15:33 |
|
paul |
searching for a word in the title DON'T WORK |
| 15:33 |
|
paul |
searching for a word in subject WORK |
| 15:33 |
|
paul |
(knowing that I do a kw search everytime) |
| 15:33 |
|
paul |
it seems that melm 200$f don't work where 606 works |
| 15:34 |
|
kados |
huh? |
| 15:34 |
|
paul |
and it's the same for all my melm FFF$S and FFF lines |
| 15:34 |
|
kados |
wow, that's really strange |
| 15:34 |
|
kados |
it should only happen with |
| 15:34 |
|
kados |
200$a |
| 15:34 |
|
kados |
200 |
| 15:34 |
|
kados |
ie, the same tag |
| 15:34 |
|
kados |
but not for other tags! |
| 15:34 |
|
paul |
??? |
| 15:35 |
|
paul |
http://o9.bureau.paulpoulain.com/ui/main.xul |
| 15:35 |
|
paul |
search for "réforme". you'll find 5 answers, including : |
| 15:35 |
|
kados |
0 results |
| 15:35 |
|
paul |
retry |
| 15:35 |
|
kados |
(still no leaders or fixed fields in opencataloger? |
| 15:36 |
|
kados |
ok, 5 results |
| 15:36 |
|
paul |
(zebra was down, now it's up) |
| 15:36 |
|
paul |
so, search for "réforme" => 5 answers including "Mémoires historiques" |
| 15:36 |
|
paul |
search for "Mémoires" => no answers ! |
| 15:36 |
|
kados |
ok |
| 15:37 |
|
kados |
right |
| 15:37 |
|
kados |
very strange |
| 15:39 |
|
kados |
paul: do you have plans to add fixed fields and leader to opencataloger? |
| 15:39 |
|
paul |
they are already here. fixed fields sure & leader I have to test, but if they are not, it's a bug. |
| 15:39 |
|
kados |
ahh, but no plugin for fixed fields, eh? |
| 15:40 |
|
paul |
which ones ? |
| 15:40 |
|
kados |
or leader |
| 15:40 |
|
kados |
any? |
| 15:40 |
|
paul |
100 in unimarc is a ff |
| 15:40 |
|
paul |
and you can see that there is a plugin |
| 15:40 |
|
paul |
100 $a => look at the small ... |
| 15:40 |
|
paul |
(on the right) |
| 15:40 |
|
paul |
(should work with MARC21 plugins as well) |
| 15:41 |
|
paul |
for leader, I'll ask toins, because it seems it don't work. but I asked him and we spoke of this. So they should just be hidden somewhere ;-) |
| 15:41 |
|
kados |
I don't understand |
| 15:41 |
|
kados |
how do I go from results to edit? |
| 15:42 |
|
kados |
also, what if I have content that contains a $? |
| 15:42 |
|
paul |
clic on the small image on the right of the entry |
| 15:42 |
|
kados |
for instance, often in MARC21 we have $21.00 |
| 15:42 |
|
paul |
clic on the small image on the right of the result entry |
| 15:42 |
|
kados |
for money |
| 15:42 |
|
kados |
ahh, I see |
| 15:42 |
|
paul |
I don't think we manage $ as USD, you're right :-( |
| 15:43 |
|
kados |
there are more useful characters for subfield designation IIRC |
| 15:43 |
|
kados |
‡ for instance |
| 15:43 |
|
kados |
I think that's becoming the convention |
| 15:43 |
|
paul |
how do you do this char on a french keyboard... |
| 15:44 |
|
kados |
you use javascript to have an escape sequence to create it |
| 15:44 |
|
kados |
something like CTRL-s or something |
| 15:44 |
|
kados |
the idea being, don't use a character that is also content |
| 15:45 |
|
paul |
our "problem" is that $ is never a content in France ;-) |
| 15:45 |
|
kados |
otherwise, it could be a problem if you have content with that character |
| 15:45 |
|
kados |
it is valid content |
| 15:45 |
|
kados |
even in France :-) |
| 15:45 |
|
kados |
‡ is not valid for MARC content (at least in MARC-8) |
| 15:45 |
|
paul |
yes, but never needed. that's probably why nobody care using it as subfield separator. |
| 15:46 |
|
paul |
(afaik for french libraries) |
| 15:46 |
|
kados |
http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/2xx/245.shtm |
| 15:47 |
|
kados |
OCLC seems to use ‡ |
| 15:48 |
|
kados |
anyway |
| 15:51 |
|
paul |
kados : which zebra/yas version do you use at NPL & other dev_week user ? |
| 15:51 |
|
kados |
2.0.12 at NPL |
| 15:52 |
|
cm |
hi guys...looks like i have yaz 2.1.22 & zebra 1.3.44 |
| 15:52 |
|
paul |
hi cindy. quite old versions... |
| 15:53 |
|
cm |
yeah...but they still work. ;) |
| 15:53 |
|
hdl |
how do you call this sign ? |
| 15:53 |
|
paul |
for sure ! |
| 15:53 |
|
hdl |
‡ |
| 15:54 |
|
jaron |
‡ is called a double dagger in English if that helps. |
| 15:54 |
|
kados |
cm: IIRC, there is a update bug in zebra 1.3 that wasn't ever fixed except in 2.0 |
| 15:54 |
|
hdl |
ok. thanks. (It could help in lectures) |
| 15:54 |
|
kados |
hdl: http://www.zvon.org/other/char[…]2021&searchType=3 |
| 15:54 |
|
cm |
hi kados...what was the bug? |
| 15:55 |
|
kados |
cm: well, we never were able to figure out what triggered it, but it would cause the index to get corrupted |
| 15:55 |
|
cm |
not good... |
| 15:55 |
|
kados |
cm: and updates after that would fail, necessitating a re-index |
| 15:56 |
|
cm |
that might explain some things. |
| 15:56 |
|
kados |
cm: 2.0's been running stably for a while (though paul may have discovered a bug today) |
| 15:56 |
|
cm |
i could try it out on my test server first. |
| 15:56 |
|
kados |
while being several months with no crashes |
| 15:56 |
|
cm |
that's good. |
| 15:56 |
|
kados |
there are a couple minor changes to make to the config files |
| 15:56 |
|
kados |
lemme find a reference |
| 15:56 |
|
cm |
ok. |
| 15:57 |
|
kados |
http://www.indexdata.com/zebra[…]de.tkl?skin=print |
| 15:57 |
|
cm |
thanks. |
| 15:57 |
|
kados |
after you upgrade, change the config files, and re-index |
| 15:57 |
|
kados |
should be good to go |
| 15:58 |
|
kados |
(except note paul's problem might be an issue with the most recent version) |
| 15:58 |
|
kados |
paul: I'd suggest you write a mail to the zebralist asking if it's a bug |
| 15:58 |
|
paul |
I don't think so, because I have 2.0.12 as you |
| 15:58 |
|
kados |
paul: it sounds like a bug to me |
| 15:58 |
|
kados |
ahh |
| 15:58 |
|
paul |
but i'm writing a mail to zebralist anyway |
| 15:58 |
|
kados |
*nod* |
| 16:00 |
|
cm |
i might wait until next week...we're finally migrating this weekend, and i want to have time to test before upgrading. |
| 16:00 |
|
paul |
cm is wise... |
| 16:00 |
|
cm |
:) |
| 17:15 |
|
kados |
cm: still there? |
| 17:15 |
|
dewey |
well, there is no spoon |
| 17:15 |
|
kados |
cm: I'd recommend sending that announcement to the code4lib, perld4lib, web4lib, ngc4lib lists as well |
| 17:32 |
|
cm |
hey kados, i'm back. |
| 17:33 |
|
cm |
i sent it to web4lib & oss4lib; i'm not on the other ones. |
| 17:35 |
|
kados |
cm: any response yet? |
| 17:36 |
|
cm |
i haven't heard anything. |
| 17:36 |
|
kados |
cm: did anyone at the wellington public library contact you yet? |
| 17:36 |
|
kados |
cm: they said they were planning a site visit to meadville |
| 17:36 |
|
cm |
we've had 6 responses on the survey so far. |
| 17:36 |
|
kados |
ahh, great! |
| 17:37 |
|
jaron |
cm: perl4lib would be a good one for anyone running a Koha installation to be on. When Perl modules used by Koha and Evergreen get fixes it seems to get posted to perl4lib. |
| 17:37 |
|
kados |
jaron: yep |
| 17:37 |
|
cm |
wellington....i don't think so. |
| 17:37 |
|
cm |
thanks jaron. |
| 17:37 |
|
cm |
i'll have to subscribe & post it. |
| 17:47 |
|
cm |
kados, where is wellington? maybe they contacted johnb. |
| 17:49 |
|
kados |
wellington new zealand? |
| 17:49 |
|
kados |
ahh, right |
| 17:49 |
|
kados |
it's not wellington |
| 17:49 |
|
kados |
worthington :-) |
| 17:50 |
|
kados |
worthington is in ohio |
| 17:50 |
|
kados |
worthingtonlibraries.org |
| 18:07 |
|
cm |
you never know, there *could* be a wellington, ohio. ;) |
| 18:08 |
|
owen |
Google says yes :) |
| 18:08 |
|
cm |
yay google. ;) |
| 18:12 |
|
cm |
anyway, i think they might have contacted john. i'm pretty sure he said *somebody* had contacted him about visiting us. |
| 18:13 |
|
cm |
don't remember who though. all my brain cells are directed towards migration, lately. :P |
| 20:12 |
|
johnb |
Kados you around? |
| 20:13 |
|
kados |
johnb: yep |
| 20:13 |
|
kados |
johnb: what's up? |
| 20:14 |
|
johnb |
Kados: The Ashtabual County Library System is coming here for a site viisit |
| 20:14 |
|
johnb |
Kados sorry Ashtabula |
| 20:14 |
|
kados |
johnb: ahh, right, maybe that was the group |
| 20:14 |
|
kados |
there are too many to remember them all :-) |
| 20:14 |
|
johnb |
I was told six libraries |
| 20:14 |
|
johnb |
I am also talking to the the Libraries in Washington County PA next week |
| 20:14 |
|
dewey |
okay, johnb. |
| 20:14 |
|
kados |
johnb: cool |
| 20:15 |
|
johnb |
People are starting to call ne now:) |
| 20:15 |
|
kados |
hehe, excellent! |
| 20:15 |
|
johnb |
I will try to get a web page up by the end of the week on the users group meeting |
| 20:16 |
|
kados |
johnb++ |
| 20:59 |
|
chris |
morning |
| 07:12 |
|
toins |
hi all |
| 11:49 |
|
kyle |
hey all, to anybody up at this hour ; ) |
| 11:52 |
|
paul |
hello kyle |
| 11:53 |
|
paul |
in France, it's almost 2PM |
| 11:53 |
|
kyle |
hello. |
| 11:53 |
|
paul |
ppl are back from lunch |
| 11:53 |
|
kyle |
heh, here it's so early that I'm the only one at the library. |
