| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 03:23 |
|
hdl |
helo |
| 03:34 |
|
paul |
hello |
| 04:14 |
|
Lea |
hi ppl |
| 04:29 |
|
hdl |
hi Lea |
| 04:38 |
|
Lea |
I'm really getting there with my migration. I may have to update the wiki with what I've done. I've written some handy scripts for data migration from this particular system. |
| 10:17 |
|
Lea |
everyone asleep? |
| 10:18 |
|
paul |
frenchies don't sleep atm... |
| 10:18 |
|
paul |
it's 4PM in france ;-) |
| 10:18 |
|
Lea |
frenchies lol! |
| 10:18 |
|
Lea |
hi paul :D |
| 10:18 |
|
paul |
hi lea |
| 10:19 |
|
Lea |
i've pretty much got my data migration sorted, apart from creating subjects (This can wait). I'll be looking at creating a custom intranet/opac. I was thinking of doing this via Joomla! CMS. Have you had any experince with creating custom front ends? |
| 10:20 |
|
paul |
hehe... we were just speaking, hdl & me of this question... |
| 10:20 |
|
Lea |
oh right :D |
| 10:20 |
|
hdl |
yes. |
| 10:20 |
|
paul |
Lea ask : I was thinking of doing this via Joomla! CMS. Have you had any experince with creating custom front ends? |
| 10:20 |
|
Lea |
well, I'll be creating a joomla component or something so maybe I can help? |
| 10:21 |
|
hdl |
Good. |
| 10:22 |
|
hdl |
I find joomla more difficult to add bots than Drupal. |
| 10:22 |
|
hdl |
And Drupal **seems** more active from a module development point of view. |
| 10:22 |
|
Lea |
tbh, i dont really mind. But last time i looked at drupal, it seemed only good for blogs |
| 10:23 |
|
hdl |
tbh ? |
| 10:23 |
|
Lea |
to be honest |
| 10:24 |
|
Lea |
i did setup a drupal site and I got to a point where i could allow people to comment on my news and there didn't seem to be anything else i could do |
| 10:24 |
|
owen |
Like what, Lea? |
| 10:25 |
|
owen |
I'm re-doing my library's site in Drupal, and find it works well to handle our fairly static content |
| 10:25 |
|
hdl |
There are now Plenty of modules. |
| 10:26 |
|
paul |
hi owen |
| 10:26 |
|
hdl |
hi owen. |
| 10:26 |
|
Lea |
hi owen |
| 10:26 |
|
owen |
(Hi everyone :) ) |
| 10:26 |
|
Lea |
:) |
| 10:26 |
|
hdl |
owen : Drupal 5 or 4.7 ? |
| 10:26 |
|
owen |
5 |
| 10:27 |
|
Lea |
i just found drupal to be too basic. Maybe i had a bad experience. |
| 10:27 |
|
hdl |
Is joomla more sophisticated ? |
| 10:28 |
|
Lea |
it seemed to be |
| 10:28 |
|
hdl |
and is it "userfriendly" ? |
| 10:28 |
|
Lea |
like it's really easy to have multiplingual sites |
| 10:28 |
|
Lea |
yeah, seemed to be |
| 10:28 |
|
owen |
I found Joomla to be too "CMS-like" I didn't feel I could customize it very well to go with our site and its content |
| 10:29 |
|
hdl |
It seems to. (I am testing it) |
| 10:29 |
|
Lea |
ah, i think that's what i was looking for. |
| 10:29 |
|
paul |
what do you mean by "CMS-like" ? |
| 10:29 |
|
owen |
But that doesn't have anything to do with whether it's a good system |
| 10:29 |
|
owen |
I mean that it seemed like Joomla sites always looked like Joomla. Same blocks here, same blocks there |
| 10:29 |
|
paul |
ah, ok |
| 10:29 |
|
Lea |
yeah, this is true |
| 10:30 |
|
hdl |
The fact is that library would really appreciate to have a blog-like site. |
| 10:30 |
|
hdl |
Becaus most of the time, they will present with events in the library ? |
| 10:30 |
|
owen |
I think it would be great to be able to incorporate Koha into a CMS. I think it would really expand its appeal |
| 10:30 |
|
Lea |
yeah, it would |
| 10:30 |
|
hdl |
owen do you agree with me ? |
| 10:30 |
|
Lea |
well, I have no CMS bias so I'm happy to develop for either |
| 10:31 |
|
owen |
If you ask kados, he'll tell you it should be Plone |
| 10:31 |
|
owen |
hdl: about a blog-like site? |
| 10:31 |
|
hdl |
yes. |
| 10:31 |
|
owen |
I think it's not necessarily true. |
| 10:31 |
|
owen |
We have an active events calendar, but a blog-like presentation wouldn't work for our needs. |
| 10:32 |
|
Lea |
ah, I know what annoyed me about Drupal: We have 3 libraries and i couldn't find an easy way to split the content. |
| 10:32 |
|
owen |
Split it how? |
| 10:33 |
|
Lea |
well, ideally, i'd like to allow the librarian on each site to edit their own "subcontent" area |
| 10:33 |
|
Lea |
so the front end is an overall library page, but people can go into "mini-sites" |
| 10:35 |
|
owen |
I've heard others say that they were dissatisfied wtih Drupal's user-role/permissions management. I haven't run into it because of the limited number of people who will contribute content for our site |
| 10:35 |
|
Lea |
maybe I'll give it another shot. I did find joomla! to be somewhat "cluttered" |
| 10:35 |
|
Lea |
heh, it's kinda like Gnome VS KDE |
| 10:36 |
|
owen |
I don't know anything about CMS module development, but I know lots of the "big" PHP apps have been ported to multiple CMSes |
| 10:36 |
|
owen |
I wonder how hard incorporating Koha will be given it's not PHP? |
| 10:37 |
|
paul |
owen : I may know the answer ... |
| 10:37 |
|
paul |
I have integrated Koha with a PHP software (not a public one) |
| 10:37 |
|
Lea |
if you are just calling cgi scripts with GET/POST vars then no at all |
| 10:38 |
|
paul |
(and not a CMS, but it was PHP & I think I've meet some/most of the problems ) |
| 10:38 |
|
Lea |
*not at all |
| 10:38 |
|
paul |
the main problem is authentification ! |
| 10:38 |
|
paul |
you need to create the koha cookie as well as the mySQL DB entry. |
| 10:38 |
|
paul |
it's not a big problem, but has to be done carefully |
| 10:38 |
|
paul |
(mainly to manage user branch for example) |
| 10:39 |
|
paul |
(as the user branch may not exist out of Koha) |
| 11:01 |
|
Lea |
ok, so how can i help with drupal/koha integration? |
| 11:03 |
|
hdl |
Everything has to be done. We are at the begining. |
| 11:06 |
|
hdl |
I wanted to look at Gallery2 module |
| 11:06 |
|
hdl |
To see how it was integrated with gallery. |
| 11:06 |
|
hdl |
And use it as a base for Koha module development. |
| 11:10 |
|
Lea |
ok, well for now I'll develop some custom static pages and see about just displaying them in drupal |
| 11:10 |
|
Lea |
i think proper integration is much harder, IE, user logging in to drupal = logging in to koha etc |
