Time Nick Message 03:23 hdl helo 03:34 paul hello 04:14 Lea hi ppl 04:29 hdl hi Lea 04:38 Lea I'm really getting there with my migration. I may have to update the wiki with what I've done. I've written some handy scripts for data migration from this particular system. 10:17 Lea everyone asleep? 10:18 paul frenchies don't sleep atm... 10:18 paul it's 4PM in france ;-) 10:18 Lea frenchies lol! 10:18 Lea hi paul :D 10:18 paul hi lea 10:19 Lea i've pretty much got my data migration sorted, apart from creating subjects (This can wait). I'll be looking at creating a custom intranet/opac. I was thinking of doing this via Joomla! CMS. Have you had any experince with creating custom front ends? 10:20 paul hehe... we were just speaking, hdl & me of this question... 10:20 Lea oh right :D 10:20 hdl yes. 10:20 paul Lea ask : I was thinking of doing this via Joomla! CMS. Have you had any experince with creating custom front ends? 10:20 Lea well, I'll be creating a joomla component or something so maybe I can help? 10:21 hdl Good. 10:22 hdl I find joomla more difficult to add bots than Drupal. 10:22 hdl And Drupal **seems** more active from a module development point of view. 10:22 Lea tbh, i dont really mind. But last time i looked at drupal, it seemed only good for blogs 10:23 hdl tbh ? 10:23 Lea to be honest 10:24 Lea i did setup a drupal site and I got to a point where i could allow people to comment on my news and there didn't seem to be anything else i could do 10:24 owen Like what, Lea? 10:25 owen I'm re-doing my library's site in Drupal, and find it works well to handle our fairly static content 10:25 hdl There are now Plenty of modules. 10:26 paul hi owen 10:26 hdl hi owen. 10:26 Lea hi owen 10:26 owen (Hi everyone :) ) 10:26 Lea :) 10:26 hdl owen : Drupal 5 or 4.7 ? 10:26 owen 5 10:27 Lea i just found drupal to be too basic. Maybe i had a bad experience. 10:27 hdl Is joomla more sophisticated ? 10:28 Lea it seemed to be 10:28 hdl and is it "userfriendly" ? 10:28 Lea like it's really easy to have multiplingual sites 10:28 Lea yeah, seemed to be 10:28 owen I found Joomla to be too "CMS-like" I didn't feel I could customize it very well to go with our site and its content 10:29 hdl It seems to. (I am testing it) 10:29 Lea ah, i think that's what i was looking for. 10:29 paul what do you mean by "CMS-like" ? 10:29 owen But that doesn't have anything to do with whether it's a good system 10:29 owen I mean that it seemed like Joomla sites always looked like Joomla. Same blocks here, same blocks there 10:29 paul ah, ok 10:29 Lea yeah, this is true 10:30 hdl The fact is that library would really appreciate to have a blog-like site. 10:30 hdl Becaus most of the time, they will present with events in the library ? 10:30 owen I think it would be great to be able to incorporate Koha into a CMS. I think it would really expand its appeal 10:30 Lea yeah, it would 10:30 hdl owen do you agree with me ? 10:30 Lea well, I have no CMS bias so I'm happy to develop for either 10:31 owen If you ask kados, he'll tell you it should be Plone 10:31 owen hdl: about a blog-like site? 10:31 hdl yes. 10:31 owen I think it's not necessarily true. 10:31 owen We have an active events calendar, but a blog-like presentation wouldn't work for our needs. 10:32 Lea ah, I know what annoyed me about Drupal: We have 3 libraries and i couldn't find an easy way to split the content. 10:32 owen Split it how? 10:33 Lea well, ideally, i'd like to allow the librarian on each site to edit their own "subcontent" area 10:33 Lea so the front end is an overall library page, but people can go into "mini-sites" 10:35 owen I've heard others say that they were dissatisfied wtih Drupal's user-role/permissions management. I haven't run into it because of the limited number of people who will contribute content for our site 10:35 Lea maybe I'll give it another shot. I did find joomla! to be somewhat "cluttered" 10:35 Lea heh, it's kinda like Gnome VS KDE 10:36 owen I don't know anything about CMS module development, but I know lots of the "big" PHP apps have been ported to multiple CMSes 10:36 owen I wonder how hard incorporating Koha will be given it's not PHP? 10:37 paul owen : I may know the answer ... 10:37 paul I have integrated Koha with a PHP software (not a public one) 10:37 Lea if you are just calling cgi scripts with GET/POST vars then no at all 10:38 paul (and not a CMS, but it was PHP & I think I've meet some/most of the problems ) 10:38 Lea *not at all 10:38 paul the main problem is authentification ! 10:38 paul you need to create the koha cookie as well as the mySQL DB entry. 10:38 paul it's not a big problem, but has to be done carefully 10:38 paul (mainly to manage user branch for example) 10:39 paul (as the user branch may not exist out of Koha) 11:01 Lea ok, so how can i help with drupal/koha integration? 11:03 hdl Everything has to be done. We are at the begining. 11:06 hdl I wanted to look at Gallery2 module 11:06 hdl To see how it was integrated with gallery. 11:06 hdl And use it as a base for Koha module development. 11:10 Lea ok, well for now I'll develop some custom static pages and see about just displaying them in drupal 11:10 Lea i think proper integration is much harder, IE, user logging in to drupal = logging in to koha etc