| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 11:32 |
|
owen |
toins, are you still there? |
| 11:32 |
|
toins |
owen, yep |
| 11:33 |
|
owen |
Are you familiar with acquisitions? |
| 11:33 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 11:33 |
|
kados |
hi guys |
| 11:33 |
|
toins |
hi kados |
| 11:34 |
|
toins |
owen, what 's your problem with acquisition ? |
| 11:34 |
|
kados |
toins: you may want to see the few commits Ryan and I have made to dev_week, cleaning up a couple of minor bugs |
| 11:34 |
|
owen |
I'm curious about the screen that shows "Receive a new Parcel" |
| 11:34 |
|
owen |
Parcel Code and Freight. |
| 11:35 |
|
owen |
What values should be entered there? |
| 11:35 |
|
toins |
kados, ok |
| 11:35 |
|
hdl |
kados : what about mod_perl problems ? |
| 11:36 |
|
kados |
hdl: mod_perl probs? |
| 11:36 |
|
hdl |
Do you have mod_perl installations running ? |
| 11:36 |
|
toins |
kados, is npl under mod_perl ? |
| 11:36 |
|
toins |
CAN seems to have some mod_perl specific bugs |
| 11:37 |
|
kados |
npl is running mod_perl ... what bugs? |
| 11:41 |
|
hdl |
for circulation.pl, shelves.pl and branches.pl |
| 11:42 |
|
hdl |
Do you use shelves module ? |
| 11:43 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 11:44 |
|
kados |
what are the bugs? |
| 11:44 |
|
kados |
but not sure ... |
| 11:44 |
|
toins |
kados, yes perhaps |
| 11:44 |
|
hdl |
in rel_2_2 it crashes FF. |
| 11:44 |
|
kados |
hdl: mod_perl ? |
| 11:45 |
|
hdl |
yes |
| 11:45 |
|
hdl |
owen : Parcel Code is a code you enter in order to retrieve easily the parcel. Could be the parcel # from bookseller, could be any code you want. |
| 11:45 |
|
hdl |
owen : Freight is for freight fees. |
| 11:49 |
|
owen |
Okay, that's what I thought, but I wanted to make sure |
| 11:51 |
|
kados |
hi tumer |
| 11:51 |
|
dewey |
it has been said that hi tumer is still strugling |
| 11:51 |
|
kados |
tumer: hdl and I were wondering if you have been working on XSLT stuff? :-) |
| 11:52 |
|
hdl |
hi tumer. |
| 11:52 |
|
dewey |
i think hi tumer is still strugling |
| 11:52 |
|
hdl |
dewey : forget hi tumer |
| 11:52 |
|
dewey |
hdl: I forgot hi tumer |
| 11:52 |
|
toins |
hi tumer |
| 11:52 |
|
hdl |
dewey : forget tumer |
| 11:52 |
|
dewey |
hdl, I didn't have anything matching tumer |
| 11:53 |
|
tumer |
kados: i tried that once when i was doing metakoha records |
| 11:53 |
|
tumer |
used xml-libxslt ;impressive |
| 11:53 |
|
hdl |
was it slow ? |
| 11:54 |
|
tumer |
but need lots of xslt knowledge to define sheets so i left it |
| 11:54 |
|
tumer |
hdl:it was fast |
| 11:55 |
|
tumer |
you gain speed by not converting xml to koha perl hashes anyway |
| 11:59 |
|
hdl |
Do you still use your metakoha record ? |
| 12:07 |
|
toins |
kados, do you use a specific configuration for mod_perl ? Or a configuration like writed on the wiki ? |
| 12:09 |
|
toins |
http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=mod_perl |
| 12:12 |
|
tumer_ |
to whom it may concern:wiki.koha.org is not readable with IE. The left menu covers the documents and its frustating! |
| 12:12 |
|
kados |
toins: which wiki page? |
| 12:12 |
|
kados |
toins: I can compare to NPL's config |
| 12:13 |
|
toins |
this => http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=mod_perl |
| 12:15 |
|
owen |
What does it mean, on acquire.pl, "(that all costs are for 1 item)" ? |
| 12:15 |
|
kados |
toins: startup.pl is not included |
| 12:16 |
|
kados |
and it looks like the handlers are commented out currently |
| 12:16 |
|
toins |
ah ? and so you defined the PERL5LIB in the virtual host ? |
| 12:16 |
|
kados |
I have: |
| 12:16 |
|
kados |
<Directory /koha/opac/cgi-bin/> |
| 12:16 |
|
kados |
PerlSetEnv PERL5LIB "/koha/intranet/modules" |
| 12:16 |
|
kados |
PerlSetEnv KOHA_CONF "/koha/etc/koha.xml" |
| 12:16 |
|
kados |
</Directory> |
| 12:16 |
|
kados |
for the OPAC |
| 12:17 |
|
toins |
ok thanks |
| 12:19 |
|
toins |
kados, and where do you writed your koha is under mod_perl ?? |
| 12:20 |
|
hdl |
back |
| 12:20 |
|
kados |
toins: originally I had it in perl.conf file ... but I see it is commented out currently |
| 12:21 |
|
kados |
toins: so mod_perl is enabled, but Koha doesn't use it currently (but it looks like I did test it, so I'm not sure why it's not being used) |
| 12:24 |
|
toins |
hum... |
| 12:27 |
|
toins |
so we can't know if there are some mod_perl bugs in the npl installation... |
| 12:29 |
|
kados |
toins: right ... sorry :( |
| 12:30 |
|
toins |
kados, no problem... |
| 12:30 |
|
kados |
maybe I panicked at the last moment and turned it off just in case :-) |
| 12:30 |
|
kados |
(the migration was done in a hurry as you recall) |
| 12:31 |
|
paul_ |
kados : (hello) what sounds strange to me is that SAN-OP did some harness testing today and : |
| 12:32 |
|
paul_ |
- with mod_perl activated, they have big problems (like editing a page works only 1 every 2 times) |
| 12:32 |
|
paul_ |
- without mod_perl, they have awful performances (really : 20s to get a page) |
| 12:33 |
|
paul |
could you send me your NPL apache config files (all of them) to see if I can explain why response times are so nightmare ? |
| 12:33 |
|
paul |
hi tumer |
| 12:33 |
|
tumer |
hi paul |
| 14:01 |
|
owen |
kados? |
| 14:01 |
|
dewey |
kados is becoming a true Perl Monger... |
| 14:01 |
|
kados |
hey owen |
| 14:01 |
|
kados |
dewey: forget kados |
| 14:01 |
|
dewey |
kados: I forgot kados |
| 14:02 |
|
kados |
owen: looks like you committed a fix to the acquisitions, eh? |
| 14:02 |
|
kados |
shall I test it out? |
| 14:02 |
|
owen |
Yeah, hopefully it's working now. |
| 14:07 |
|
kados |
owen: looks like it's working! |
| 14:07 |
|
kados |
I'll update dev_week and get SMFPL to test it out |
| 14:07 |
|
kados |
owen: thanks! |
| 14:07 |
|
owen |
Sure thing. |
| 14:07 |
|
owen |
And I answered my own question, so I don't have anything to ask you :) |
| 14:07 |
|
kados |
hehe, cool |
| 14:08 |
|
paul |
kados : we face a very very strange problem with mod_perl... |
| 14:08 |
|
kados |
paul: what's that? |
| 14:08 |
|
paul |
a few script are failing miserabily : circulation.pl / branches.pl for example |
| 14:08 |
|
paul |
the 1st time you call them, it works, the 2nd time it may works, then, empty forms... |
| 14:09 |
|
paul |
the db handler seems to have "disappeared", or returns nothing at all. |
| 14:09 |
|
kados |
have you tested dev_week? |
| 14:09 |
|
paul |
but we have strictly no errors. |
| 14:09 |
|
paul |
nope |
| 14:09 |
|
toins |
kados, dev_week is the same thing |
| 14:09 |
|
kados |
circ does some tricky stuff |
| 14:09 |
|
kados |
I suspect there are some problems with the way it's written (not mod_perl safe) |
| 14:10 |
|
toins |
circulation shelves & branches.pl don't work with mod_perl on rel_3_0 and on dev_week |
| 14:10 |
|
paul |
can you explain why SANOP has so bad perfs without mod_perl and NPL didn't ? |
| 14:10 |
|
toins |
kados, on this 3 script there are some internal sub |
| 14:10 |
|
paul |
because the server is quite a good one. |
| 14:10 |
|
toins |
it may be the problem |
| 14:11 |
|
kados |
paul: so without mod_perl it seems slow? |
| 14:11 |
|
paul |
no, it IS slow |
| 14:11 |
|
kados |
hmmm |
| 14:11 |
|
paul |
(like 20/30 seconds to get a page) |
| 14:11 |
|
kados |
does rel_3 have Date::Manip ? |
| 14:12 |
|
paul |
(under medium load : 30 persons testing it. |
| 14:12 |
|
kados |
very strange |
| 14:12 |
|
paul |
in circulation => toins cleaned D::M |
| 14:12 |
|
kados |
is my.cnf optimized to handle query cacheing? |
| 14:13 |
|
kados |
here are NPL's settings: |
| 14:13 |
|
kados |
# 25-33% of memory changed by JF |
| 14:13 |
|
kados |
key_buffer = 1G |
| 14:13 |
|
kados |
max_allowed_packet = 16M |
| 14:13 |
|
kados |
thread_stack = 128K |
| 14:13 |
|
kados |
thread_cache = 8 |
| 14:13 |
|
kados |
# Try number of CPU's*2 for thread_concurrency |
| 14:13 |
|
kados |
thread_concurrency = 2 |
| 14:13 |
|
kados |
# was 128 |
| 14:13 |
|
kados |
tmp_table_size = 256M |
| 14:13 |
|
kados |
table_cache = 512 |
| 14:13 |
|
kados |
sort_buffer_size = 2M |
| 14:13 |
|
kados |
record_buffer = 2M |
| 14:13 |
|
kados |
query_cache_limit = 5M |
| 14:13 |
|
kados |
query_cache_size = 128M |
| 14:13 |
|
kados |
query_cache_type = 1 |
| 14:14 |
|
kados |
also, try logging slow queries: |
| 14:14 |
|
kados |
log_slow_queries = /var/log/mysql-slow-queries.log |
| 14:14 |
|
kados |
long_query_time = 1 |
| 14:14 |
|
kados |
(means log all queries that take longer than 1 sec) |
| 14:14 |
|
kados |
and try to find out if the bottleneck is in perl or in mysql |
| 14:14 |
|
kados |
you can use mytop to see active mysql processes |
| 14:14 |
|
kados |
those are some of my ideas :-) |
| 14:17 |
|
paul |
kados : could you copy your apache config as well ? |
| 14:23 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 14:23 |
|
kados |
I use apache2 conventions for apache conf |
| 14:24 |
|
kados |
so it is split between several files |
| 14:24 |
|
kados |
in ports.conf I have |
| 14:24 |
|
kados |
Listen 80 |
| 14:24 |
|
kados |
and |
| 14:24 |
|
kados |
NameVirtualHost 66.213.78.76:80 |
| 14:24 |
|
kados |
NameVirtualHost 66.213.78.77:80 |
| 14:24 |
|
kados |
then in sites-enabled/ I have two conf files: |
| 14:24 |
|
kados |
intranet.athenscounty.lib.oh.us.conf |
| 14:24 |
|
kados |
search.athenscounty.lib.oh.us.conf |
| 14:25 |
|
kados |
paul: I will email you those files |
| 14:26 |
|
paul |
kados & alaurin : do you have apache2 or apache1 ? |
| 14:26 |
|
kados |
paul: mailed |
| 14:26 |
|
alaurin |
we have apache 2 |
| 14:27 |
|
paul |
kados : i was interested by httpd.conf |
| 14:27 |
|
kados |
why? |
| 14:27 |
|
paul |
to find any diff between SAN & NPL |
| 14:28 |
|
paul |
in apache core config |
| 14:28 |
|
kados |
ahh, ok |
| 14:28 |
|
kados |
it's just debian standard |
| 14:28 |
|
kados |
I'll email it to you |
| 14:28 |
|
kados |
it's broken into sections, so the mods aren't in the apache2.conf proper |
| 14:28 |
|
toins |
kados, the most import file is site-enables/default |
| 14:29 |
|
kados |
but are in their dirs |
| 14:29 |
|
toins |
sites-enabled/000-default |
| 14:30 |
|
kados |
toins: mailed to paul |
| 14:30 |
|
toins |
ok |
| 14:30 |
|
kados |
so now you should have all the conf files |
| 14:30 |
|
kados |
what distro do you run on? |
| 14:30 |
|
paul |
mandriva for me & SANOP |
| 14:30 |
|
paul |
ubuntu for toins |
| 14:30 |
|
kados |
we use debian sarge |
| 14:30 |
|
paul |
I have to leave now. see you tomorrow for the 2nd part of this story ;-) |
| 14:31 |
|
kados |
ok, have a good night :-) |
| 14:31 |
|
toins |
bye all too |
| 17:04 |
|
pecisk |
hi guys, I have question again - how one can localise Koha for his local language? |
| 17:10 |
|
chris |
pecisk |
| 17:10 |
|
chris |
http://www.kohadocs.org/KOHAtr[…]/translation.html |
| 17:10 |
|
chris |
if there isnt already a set of templates in your language, you can use this guide to make one |
| 17:11 |
|
pecisk |
thanks :) |
| 17:20 |
|
pecisk |
chris: question, do you use UTF-8 or something else in Koha? |
| 17:21 |
|
pecisk |
in which encoding those po files should be? |
| 17:24 |
|
chris |
utf8 |
| 17:24 |
|
pecisk |
ahhh, cool |
| 17:30 |
|
pecisk |
chris: I get Can't locate Locale/PO.pm in @INC error when launching that generation script, what CPAN thingy I need? |
| 17:31 |
|
chris |
ah ha |
| 17:31 |
|
chris |
i think Locale::PO |
| 17:32 |
|
pecisk |
ok, that it is what I thought |
| 17:32 |
|
pecisk |
thanks |
| 17:37 |
|
pecisk |
hmmm, it says Create FAILED at the end of issued command like in document |
| 17:37 |
|
pecisk |
without futher details |
| 17:38 |
|
chris |
hmm |
| 17:39 |
|
chris |
http://lists.nongnu.org/mailma[…]fo/koha-translate |
| 17:39 |
|
chris |
might be the place to ask |
| 17:39 |
|
pecisk |
http://pastebin.ca/276964 |
| 17:39 |
|
pecisk |
ok, I will do |
| 19:43 |
|
pecisk |
Anyone here? if someone would like to buy Koha eq. commercial software, how much he should spend? 3000$? 2000$? |
| 19:44 |
|
chris |
to pa for something that has the same functionality as Koha? |
| 19:45 |
|
chris |
like sirsidynix horizons ...or liberty3 ? |
| 19:46 |
|
chris |
you wouldnt be payng less than 40k id imagine |
| 19:46 |
|
chris |
kados would know better |
| 19:46 |
|
chris |
you can get things like dbtextworks for around 2000$ but they have no where near the features koha does |
| 19:50 |
|
pecisk |
Jesus Christ :) |
| 19:50 |
|
chris |
40k is cheap too |
| 19:50 |
|
chris |
some will cost over 200k |
| 19:52 |
|
russ |
i know one system that cost over $500k to deploy |
| 19:55 |
|
pecisk |
:) |
| 04:59 |
|
btoumi |
hi all |
| 10:42 |
|
owen |
kados? |
| 10:43 |
|
paul |
hi owen. |
| 10:43 |
|
owen |
Hi paul |
| 10:44 |
|
paul |
our mod_perl problem is (at least partially) solved |
| 10:44 |
|
owen |
This was with rel_3_0 ? |
| 10:54 |
|
paul |
yep |
| 10:54 |
|
paul |
see the last 2 commits from toins |
