IRC log for #koha, 2006-11-29

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12:19 paul hello kados
12:19 paul seems you're at office now, as you write mails ;-)
12:25 kados hi paul
12:25 kados :-)
12:25 kados yes, I'm at the office, and it's a slow monday for once
12:25 kados (probably librarians are catching up after the holiday :-))
12:25 paul holiday ?
12:26 kados thanksgiving
12:27 paul what do you (kados) eat for thanksgiving ?
12:28 paul really ? i've read somewhere that some fast-food just produced a new hamburger, called "heart break ham", with 8000 calories in just 1 hamburger !!!
12:28 paul they are crazy...
12:28 kados wow
12:29 paul (it was in US, of course, but can't remember where exactly)
12:30 paul kados : toins ask me if thanksgiving is a christian holiday ? I don't think, but you'll have the correct answer
12:31 owen It's origins are technically Christian, but it's now non-denominational.
12:32 owen (And: the Quadruple Bypass Burger:[…]06510748,00.html)
12:34 paul hi owen
12:34 owen Hi paul
12:42 owen Thanksgiving is a very carnivorous holiday, so vegetarians may feel left out of the traditional festivities.
12:55 hdl Traditional dish is the turkey isn't it ?
12:57 owen Yes
12:57 hdl was it not for the first pilgrims to Thanks Lord for their arrival on this new ground ?
12:58 hdl (There is/was... ( 10years ago ) a living museum near Boston very interesting...
13:00 owen or something similar
13:01 hdl yea.
13:04 hdl toins : for the latest GW Bush proclamation of Thx Giving...
13:33 paul kados : about popularity, a quick question :
13:33 paul melm 952$s popularity means it's related to items.
13:33 paul shouldn't it be related to sum(all items of this biblio) ?
13:46 btoumi kados are u around?
13:50 kados hi btoumi
13:51 kados paul: yes, ideally
13:51 kados paul: but I didn't have time
13:51 btoumi how are u kados
13:51 kados good, and you>?
13:52 btoumi same for me , can u tell me where do u find some french ? perhaps we forget
13:52 paul I just wrote a small script for OPAC, showing books by popularity. It does not rely on zebra, and the patron can select 1 branch only, 1 itemtype only, 3/6/12 months acquisitions only
13:53 kados btoumi: when adding a member, the 'Mr., Mrs.' salutation titles
13:53 kados paul: cool
13:53 btoumi kados right we forget to change
13:53 btoumi i will change on cvs
13:56 btoumi and commit kados :
13:57 paul btoumi : probably a good candidate for a systempref...
13:58 paul (because even in french, christian libraries, for exemple, will be happy to add "Father", "Sister"... and research libraries will add "Prof."...)
13:58 paul not only in french probably ;-)
13:59 btoumi sure : borrowerstype for examples
14:00 paul BorrowersTitle would be better
14:00 paul BorrowersTitles being the best ;)
14:01 btoumi yes not type  
14:15 kados IMO it would even be better to have a new table
14:16 kados for SaultationTitle
14:16 kados so a library can define for themselves what are approapriate values
14:19 paul kados: why do we need a table ? A systempref is enough.
14:19 paul I mean, it contains the list of title separated by commas, and a split builds the array, for the template.
14:19 paul btoumi: you understood what i explained here, or planned to have a systempref just to choose between french & english titles ?
14:21 btoumi paul : a systeme preference to have french title or english title
14:22 kados paul: a syspref is slower to read because it must be parsed in perl as well, whereas a read from mysql is quite fast ... but either way it's OK
14:22 paul BorrowersTitles being a list of avaialble titles for the library : M,Mme,Mlle,Docteur
14:22 kados syspref is easier for the library to understand how to set up also
14:22 paul i don't think splitting a perl systempref is slower than reading X lines from mySQL
14:22 kados :-)
14:22 paul right.
14:22 paul (with mod_perl, i'm sure it's faster even)
14:23 kados (true)
14:23 btoumi paul:  it's a system preference to record the title u want
14:24 paul yep
18:10 owen Anyone know why virtual shelves store things by itemnumber rather than biblionumber?
18:12 chris its a good question
18:12 chris i cant think of any reason why ... other than perhaps they wanted only a certain type/format
18:12 chris altho, when you view it it just shows the biblio anyway
18:13 chris nope, cant think why its done that way
18:13 owen I've seen a lot of virtual shelves with blank entries, and I'm wondering if they're due to items having been deleted since being added to a virtual shelf.
18:15 chris yeah, that certainly sounds plausible
18:15 owen The OPAC seems to be smart enough not to display the blank entries, but not the intranet
18:16 chris wonder if thats just a template thing? .. i guess you want them to display on the intranet .. but with some way to remove them
18:16 chris so you can clean up
18:17 owen Except that it looks like deletions work via itemnumber (since there's no other primary key available)
18:18 chris right
18:19 chris itd be good if on the intranet, it showed the itemnumbers for the blank ones, then you could check the deleteditems table, to find out what they were maybe
18:25 owen I don't find the item numbers in our deleteditems table in the case that I examined, but I wonder if our deleteditems data is accurate...I seem to recall a bug we encountered in that department.
19:28 mason1 ello
03:10 mohameimran82 hi i am using fc6 and trying to install koha 2.2.7 on it
03:10 mohameimran82 when i run this command perl -MCPAN -e 'install "ZOOM"'
03:10 mohameimran82 i get the following error
03:11 mohameimran82 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lexslt
03:11 mohameimran82 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
03:11 mohameimran82 make: *** [blib/arch/auto/Net/Z3950/ZOOM/] Error 1
03:11 mohameimran82 ...........
03:12 rch hi mohameimran82
03:12 dewey hi mohameimran82 is using fc6 and trying to install koha 2.2.7 on it
03:13 rch have you installed expat and libxml fedora packages?
03:13 mohameimran82 ill just check
03:14 rch and possibly libxslt if it isn't included in those
03:28 mohameimran82 these modules are present...
03:52 rch libxml2 and libxslt ?
05:01 btoumi hi all
05:30 js hello
05:30 dewey que tal, js
06:04 paul kados sleeping or around ?
10:32 owen paul: thanks for your input on the virtual shelves

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