| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 11:11 |
|
Lea |
does anyone know where the "item count" data comes from? I've imported 2 records with bulkimport and using -d each time. However, the item count for both items is 5? This doesn't increment if i bulk import again, and there is no "5" values in my MARC records. Any ideas? |
| 11:35 |
|
Lea |
yea, bulkimport seems to be importing 5 records per MARC record, 4 are fairly corrupt, however dumpmarc seems to think there is only 2 records.... |
| 11:35 |
|
Lea |
* 5 entries in Koha.items; |
| 11:40 |
|
kados |
Lea: items are copies |
| 11:41 |
|
kados |
Lea: so your records must have copy data attached |
| 11:41 |
|
kados |
Lea: to count how many records check the count of 'biblios' |
| 12:27 |
|
Lea |
thanks kados. It's very odd. I'll have to deconstruct some work I've done on MARC mappings to see where this is coming from. Thanks. |
| 12:35 |
|
Lea |
ok, it seems that if there is a barcode, bulkmarcimport will treat this as an item and import it as such. that would be right yes? |
| 12:37 |
|
kados |
Lea: yep |
| 12:38 |
|
kados |
Lea: in MARC, one 'record' can have multiple 'copies' and Koha treats 'record' as a biblio and a 'copy' as an item |
| 12:38 |
|
kados |
Lea: in this respect, so do all library systems that I know of |
| 12:38 |
|
kados |
this is so you can have one record for harry potter, even if you have 10 copies of the book |
| 12:38 |
|
Lea |
ok, this is odd. If I now add a "price" tag (952 _9) to the same record, it seems to make an entry in items when it finds the barcode, then another entry when it finds the price. |
| 12:38 |
|
kados |
(no need to have 10 records) |
| 12:39 |
|
kados |
is it in the same 952 as the barcode, or a new one? |
| 12:39 |
|
Lea |
so for 2 records, I now have 4 items |
| 12:39 |
|
Lea |
same |
| 12:39 |
|
kados |
I've never seen that before |
| 12:39 |
|
kados |
so something's up with your configuration ;-) |
| 12:39 |
|
Lea |
um..... really? where would I even start to look? |
| 12:40 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 12:40 |
|
kados |
good question |
| 12:40 |
|
Lea |
there is nothing much beyond a standard install here.... |
| 12:40 |
|
kados |
did you adjust the MARC framework? |
| 12:40 |
|
Lea |
no, i specifically changed the MARC data rather than alter the framework. Last time i did that I ended up in a sticky situation |
| 12:41 |
|
kados |
can you reproduce the problem you're having here: http://koha.liblime.com/ |
| 12:41 |
|
kados |
if so maybe I can see where the problem is |
| 12:41 |
|
Lea |
is there a way i can find out? |
| 12:42 |
|
btoumi |
oui d'accord mais quand tu fais ta recherche il pointe sur des mandriva2007 |
| 12:44 |
|
kados |
Lea: ahh, you're running bulkmarcimport |
| 12:44 |
|
Lea |
yes |
| 12:44 |
|
kados |
can you email me the records? |
| 12:44 |
|
kados |
jmf kados.org |
| 12:44 |
|
Lea |
sure |
| 12:45 |
|
kados |
or jmfliblime.com actually would be easier |
| 12:48 |
|
Lea |
sent |
| 12:49 |
|
kados |
ok |
| 12:49 |
|
kados |
here's the prob: |
| 12:49 |
|
kados |
952 _g14304 |
| 12:49 |
|
kados |
952 _99.99 |
| 12:49 |
|
kados |
in the mapped one |
| 12:49 |
|
kados |
you have one 952 for the barcode |
| 12:49 |
|
kados |
and one for the price |
| 12:50 |
|
kados |
for them to be one item instead of two they need to be in the same 952 |
| 12:50 |
|
kados |
ie, subfields within the 952 field |
| 12:50 |
|
kados |
rather than separate 952 fields |
| 12:50 |
|
kados |
am I making sense? |
| 12:50 |
|
Lea |
ah right |
| 12:50 |
|
Lea |
totally |
| 12:50 |
|
Lea |
that's really annoying! :) |
| 12:50 |
|
Lea |
I'll have to rewrite my mapping code :( |
| 12:50 |
|
kados |
yea, MARC is a pain |
| 12:50 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 12:51 |
|
kados |
good luck |
| 12:51 |
|
Lea |
once I've completed this, I should have a generic python tool to easily migrate data. If it's of any use..... |
| 12:51 |
|
Lea |
lol kados. Thanks mate ;) |
| 12:51 |
|
kados |
ahh, a python person :-) |
| 12:52 |
|
kados |
have any experience with plone? |
| 12:52 |
|
Lea |
i don't. TBH I don't even know what it is LOL! It's one of those things I' haven't got round to looking at yet. |
| 12:52 |
|
kados |
(why not just use MARC::Record ... it's realy easy to map things with it) |
| 12:52 |
|
Lea |
we wont go there no?! :) |
| 12:52 |
|
kados |
heh |
| 12:53 |
|
kados |
so instead you're writing a MARC parser from scratch? ;-) |
| 12:53 |
|
Lea |
there is a wonderful MARC toolkit for python called pymarc. It makes life VERY simple |
| 12:53 |
|
Lea |
no |
| 12:53 |
|
kados |
ahh, I didn't know about that |
| 12:53 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 12:53 |
|
Lea |
title = record['245']['a'] |
| 12:53 |
|
Lea |
;) |
| 12:53 |
|
kados |
I'll have to take a look |
| 12:53 |
|
Lea |
I'm writing a mapper class so you can do this: |
| 12:54 |
|
Lea |
a = MARCMapper("test.mrc","test.mrc.mapped") |
| 12:54 |
|
Lea |
a.cloneTag("999","a","952","g") |
| 12:54 |
|
Lea |
a.removeTag(["600"]) |
| 12:54 |
|
Lea |
a.setHoldingBranch("DOLG") |
| 12:54 |
|
Lea |
a.doMappingAndSave() |
| 12:54 |
|
Lea |
that will do all that for you |
| 12:55 |
|
Lea |
i need to change it to handle multiple subfields of the same tag though ;) |
| 12:58 |
|
kados |
right |
| 13:28 |
|
Lea |
kados: thanks for your help. I have 2 records in items now :) |
| 13:32 |
|
Lea |
and a whole load of bugfixes for my mapper class |
| 13:34 |
|
kados |
Lea: congrats :-) |
| 13:35 |
|
Anarka |
heys :) |
| 13:37 |
|
Anarka |
i'm about to implement koha on a small school library, there is some problems(i think) they only use windows |
| 13:38 |
|
Anarka |
so i'm thinking... the mysql server should be the heaviest process, so that could be installed in a windows server and maybe setup a "smaler" box with debian... is that a stupid idea ? |
| 13:38 |
|
Anarka |
a PII, PIII at least for debian |
| 13:39 |
|
Lea |
if it's a small school library, why not install the lot on your P3? |
| 13:39 |
|
Lea |
or am i missing something here.... |
| 13:40 |
|
kados |
Anarka: how many items in yor collection? |
| 13:40 |
|
Anarka |
could be but... i tried setting mysql, and koha on a pII350 with almost 400 mb ram and it want fast... |
| 13:40 |
|
kados |
Anarka: if it's under 20K or so the PII can handle it no problems at all |
| 13:40 |
|
Anarka |
hummm |
| 13:40 |
|
Anarka |
maybe i messed something here then |
| 13:41 |
|
kados |
maybe need to tune mysql a bit |
| 13:41 |
|
kados |
my.cnf is the file to do that |
| 13:41 |
|
Anarka |
i installed the debian package... didnt really change anything |
| 13:41 |
|
Anarka |
but from you comments installing on separate machines isnt a good idea ? |
| 13:42 |
|
Anarka |
it's under 20k... |
| 13:42 |
|
Lea |
keep it all on your p3 |
| 13:43 |
|
Lea |
but maybe invest a little cash in putting in more ram |
| 13:43 |
|
Anarka |
over 512 ? |
| 13:43 |
|
Lea |
well, the more the better |
| 13:43 |
|
Anarka |
yeah from the wiki the ideal was to keep the db almost in mem |
| 13:44 |
|
Lea |
Anarka: there you go. If it's a P3, i'm sure you can easily find cheap ram on ebay for it |
| 13:45 |
|
Anarka |
Lea i think we can even steal from some boxes that are stored |
| 13:45 |
|
Anarka |
but thats good :) |
| 13:45 |
|
Lea |
do that then. Seriously, you don't want to be messing with splitting this up over different servers |
| 13:46 |
|
Anarka |
eheh good i asked then because i was considering that |
| 13:47 |
|
Anarka |
and from what i've seen on some posts all the perl modules needed are available in etch |
| 13:47 |
|
Anarka |
oficially or from indexdata |
| 13:48 |
|
Anarka |
another thing... mysql on 4.1 right ? and apache ? can it be 2.2 ? |
| 13:50 |
|
paul |
yes, mySQL 4.1 |
| 13:50 |
|
paul |
and apache, 2.0 or 2.2 are fine |
| 13:51 |
|
paul |
hello Anarka |
| 13:51 |
|
Anarka |
mandriva 2007 still has mysql 4.1 ? |
| 13:51 |
|
Anarka |
heys paul :) |
| 13:51 |
|
paul |
default is mySQL 5, but 4.1 is provided as well (& by mandriva) |
| 13:52 |
|
Anarka |
i have to pull 4.1 from stable/sarge in debian |
| 14:00 |
|
Lea |
Anarka, if you want a hand installing on ubuntu server, instead of debian, I can do that... |
| 14:00 |
|
Lea |
although not today :) |
| 14:01 |
|
Anarka |
it should be identical :) |
| 14:01 |
|
Anarka |
nah im not going to do that today |
| 14:01 |
|
Lea |
if you believe that..... ;) |
| 14:01 |
|
Anarka |
it's not ? |
| 14:01 |
|
Lea |
i doubt it |
| 14:01 |
|
Anarka |
why ? ubuntu is one of debian's sons |
| 14:02 |
|
Lea |
well, it might be, but i doubt it is exactly the same |
| 14:02 |
|
Anarka |
most of it should be identical |
| 14:02 |
|
Anarka |
in ubuntu are you able to install all perl modules via apt-get/aptitude ? |
| 14:03 |
|
Lea |
well, here's my first tip: install webmin. It will save you from a world of pain |
| 14:03 |
|
Anarka |
because of mysql ? |
| 14:04 |
|
Lea |
install the perl modules through that and it will be much easier as it will resolve dependancies, download,install and test your modules in one click |
| 14:04 |
|
Lea |
...maybe 2 ;) |
| 14:04 |
|
Anarka |
webmin does that ? |
| 14:04 |
|
Lea |
yeah |
| 14:04 |
|
Anarka |
interesting |
| 14:04 |
|
Lea |
i g2g, really late |
| 14:05 |
|
Lea |
see ya! (thanks kados) |
| 14:05 |
|
Anarka |
okis :) tnx for the tips |
| 16:58 |
|
superbru |
paul est tu la? |
| 16:58 |
|
_paul |
yep |
| 16:58 |
|
paul |
c'est qui superbru ? |
| 16:58 |
|
superbru |
c btoumi mais a ca maison |
| 16:58 |
|
paul |
je pensai bien à ca ;-) |
| 16:58 |
|
paul |
ca marche ou pas alors ? |
| 16:59 |
|
superbru |
aux derniere nouvelles non |
| 16:59 |
|
paul |
i17.bureau.paulpoulain.com bibliomir fonctionne |
| 16:59 |
|
paul |
sauf les recherches catalogue. |
| 16:59 |
|
paul |
(pb zebra) |
| 16:59 |
|
superbru |
ok |
| 17:00 |
|
paul |
install de la dernière VF dispo en cours... |
| 17:00 |
|
superbru |
ok |
| 17:06 |
|
paul |
o17.bureau.paulpoulain.com opérationnel aussi... |
| 17:07 |
|
paul |
bon, allez, je suis fatigué et demain faut se lever : dodo... |
| 17:07 |
|
paul |
tant pis pour la recherche catalogue :-( |
| 17:42 |
|
thd |
kados: are you there? |
| 17:46 |
|
kados |
thd: yep |
| 05:12 |
|
js |
hello |
| 07:10 |
|
Anarka |
hummm i noticed z3950 search on CVS fully works on windows |
| 07:12 |
|
Anarka |
do i need to use koha from CVS for it or could i just replace those files in 2.2.6 ? |
| 07:23 |
|
Anarka |
or is a release really close and maybe waiting for it would be better ? |
| 10:04 |
|
hdl |
a release should be out in a few weeks. |
| 10:10 |
|
Lea |
hi |
| 10:31 |
|
hdl |
hi Lea |
