| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 11:12 |
|
Lea |
hi! I'm currently a little stuck importing my MARC21 records into Koha. In the log file I'm getting the following error: [Tue Nov 07 14:34:10 2006] [error] [client 10.0.0.7] malformed header from script. Bad header=MARCRECORDMARCRECORDMARCRECORD: breeding.pl, referer: http://koha.meirion-dwyfor.ac.[…]mport/breeding.pl Any ideas? Thanks... |
| 11:24 |
|
kados |
paul: you around? |
| 11:26 |
|
owen |
hi kados |
| 11:26 |
|
kados |
morning owen |
| 11:26 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 11:55 |
|
Lea |
is it normally easy to import MARC files from a .mrc file? Am I doing something wrong? |
| 11:57 |
|
Lea |
I just keep getting: Can't locate object method "ignore_errors" via package "MARC::Charset" at ./bulkmarcimport.pl line 24. |
| 11:59 |
|
kados |
Lea: do you have MARC::Charset installed? |
| 11:59 |
|
kados |
Lea: and if so, what version? |
| 12:05 |
|
Lea |
I'll check now |
| 12:06 |
|
Lea |
yes i do 0.95 |
| 12:07 |
|
Lea |
I'm not a perl guru. How do I add a path to my perl modules search path? I think this may be the problem |
| 12:31 |
|
Lea |
ok, I think I'm getting somewhere, now I'm getting this error: Can't locate object method "encoding" via package "MARC::Record" at ./bulkmarcimport.pl line 218. |
| 12:31 |
|
Lea |
I have installed the encoding perl module.... |
| 12:42 |
|
Lea |
kados: I have it working, thanks for the hint |
| 17:48 |
|
chris |
anyone about? |
| 17:52 |
|
kados |
what's up chris? |
| 17:53 |
|
chris |
http://bugs.koha.org ... work for you? |
| 17:53 |
|
kados |
server error |
| 17:53 |
|
chris |
right, still going to the old site then |
| 17:53 |
|
chris |
ull have to wait for the dns to catch up |
| 17:53 |
|
kados |
dns propogation then |
| 17:53 |
|
kados |
snap |
| 17:53 |
|
chris |
unless you can make ur dns server reload :) |
| 17:54 |
|
kados |
what's the new IP? |
| 17:55 |
|
chris |
202.50.109.200 .. so once ur dns says that ull be ok |
| 17:55 |
|
chris |
i think the ttl is 17 hours .. so itll come around |
| 17:56 |
|
kados |
huh ... that's the IP I get with dig |
| 17:56 |
|
chris |
hmm, maybe ur browser is caching dns |
| 17:57 |
|
chris |
what happens if you hit it lynx |
| 17:57 |
|
kados |
works |
| 17:57 |
|
owen |
chris, bugs.koha.org is coming up for me (though without any stylesheet) |
| 17:58 |
|
kados |
so firefox must be caching the dns ... weird |
| 17:58 |
|
chris |
right i just have to make it not so ugly now:) |
| 17:58 |
|
chris |
2 secs |
| 17:58 |
|
kados |
heh |
| 18:00 |
|
chris |
better now? |
| 18:01 |
|
owen |
Purdy. :) |
| 18:02 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 19:48 |
|
rch |
hey folks |
| 05:08 |
|
osmoze |
hello |
| 05:08 |
|
dewey |
what's up, osmoze |
| 05:45 |
|
chris |
hey osmoze, bugs.koha.org working for you now? |
| 05:46 |
|
toins_ |
chris: yes it's works ! |
| 05:46 |
|
osmoze |
hi chris |
| 05:46 |
|
osmoze |
yes :) |
| 05:47 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 05:47 |
|
chris |
its actually on a new server, and a slightly newer version of bugzilla now too |
| 06:28 |
|
Lea |
good morning.... |
| 06:29 |
|
toins_ |
hi Lea |
| 06:29 |
|
btoumi |
hi lea |
| 06:31 |
|
Lea |
I'm reinstalling koha today. I gained a lot of experience yesterday and I think I'll do a better job second time around |
| 06:31 |
|
toins_ |
Lea: 2.2.6 ? |
| 06:31 |
|
dewey |
i guess 2.2.6 is shaping up to be really stable |
| 06:31 |
|
Lea |
yes, 2.2.6 |
| 06:31 |
|
toins_ |
ok |
| 06:31 |
|
Lea |
I had quite a few niggling issues yesterday |
| 06:32 |
|
Lea |
but i think most of that was because I had issues with direct connection to the net. |
| 06:33 |
|
Lea |
Being a sys admin and not a librarian, could anyone enlighten me to what the deal is with MARC records? They look Tag based. Is there a standard format for tags? How do I make sure the librarian's data is transfered correctly? Do I need to manually set up mappings? I got a headache yesterday.... :) |
| 06:57 |
|
hdl |
you can find documentation on MARC standard in loc site and IFLA. |
| 06:58 |
|
hdl |
http://www.loc.gov/marc/ |
| 06:58 |
|
hdl |
http://www.ifla.org/VI/3/p1996-1/sec-uni.htm |
| 06:59 |
|
hdl |
depending on which side of the channel you are. |
| 06:59 |
|
hdl |
But I warn you : it will worsen your headache. |
| 06:59 |
|
hdl |
very interesting for cataloguers. |
| 07:00 |
|
hdl |
Do you know which marcflavour your library is using ? |
| 07:00 |
|
hdl |
Do you know what data they provide you with for import ? |
| 07:04 |
|
Lea |
well, we are using a product called Eclipse at the moment |
| 07:04 |
|
Lea |
it exports csv,xls,MARC21 and UNIMARC |
| 07:04 |
|
Lea |
for the catalogue |
| 07:08 |
|
hdl |
depending on the flavour you want to use in Koha. |
| 07:08 |
|
hdl |
MARC21 or UNIMARC would be good choices. |
| 07:09 |
|
hdl |
To import, you can use bulkmarcimport. |
| 07:09 |
|
Lea |
The reason I ask, is because I managed to get 5900 records imported using bulkmarcimporter, but a lot of the fields were NULL in the database. I wondered if I needed to make some sort of "mappings"? |
| 07:10 |
|
hdl |
I often map links since every user has its own use. |
| 07:10 |
|
Lea |
Like, setup all the categories using the same "codes" as what is in eclipse. But I'm not sure, because I don't know if MARC is standard like XML in that custom tags can be created. I'm all at sea with this library stuff! :) |
| 07:10 |
|
Lea |
I just know that if I bulk import the records a lot of fields are NULL |
| 07:10 |
|
Lea |
IE, all but the date ones |
| 07:11 |
|
hdl |
Did you create a framework for biblios ? |
| 07:11 |
|
hdl |
When installing Koha, you can choose to import frameworks. |
| 07:12 |
|
hdl |
Importing default UNIMARC (in french) or US-MARC can be a good start. |
| 07:13 |
|
hdl |
Did you try to contact MJ ray in UK ? |
| 07:14 |
|
Lea |
um,.... I'm not sure what I did. It's a new day! :) But I am reinstalling koha today. Now, these frameworks, are they standardised? I'm in the UK, so do I use US-MARC? |
| 07:15 |
|
Lea |
Who is Mj ray? |
| 07:17 |
|
paul |
lea: you should use the dumpmarc.pl script, that is in the misc/migration_tools directory script, to see if you have true iso2709 file (which I think yes), and what kind of marc flavour it is. |
| 07:18 |
|
paul |
the dumpmarc will dump your record. |
| 07:18 |
|
paul |
copy here a part of it (a single biblio), and we will tell you if it's UNIMARC of MARC21. |
| 07:18 |
|
paul |
(if you have the title in 200$a, it's UINMARC, if you have it in 245$a, it's MARC21) |
| 07:20 |
|
Lea |
oh, ok. are you around for a bit? I'm just reinstalling... |
| 07:20 |
|
Lea |
if it's any help, the file extension is .mrc |
| 07:21 |
|
Lea |
i did specifically select MARC21 rather than UNIMARC |
| 07:35 |
|
hdl |
MJ ray is a UK person who contributed in Koha. |
| 07:35 |
|
hdl |
Lea : OK if you select MARC21 |
| 07:36 |
|
hdl |
(UNIMARC is only translated in french) |
| 07:42 |
|
Lea |
ah ok. I'll talk to MJ Ray when i see him online :) Nearly all perl modules installed. |
| 07:43 |
|
Lea |
I'd definately add "install modules using webmin" to the documentation. It makes life an awful lot easier. |
| 07:56 |
|
hdl |
he rarely is |
| 07:56 |
|
hdl |
But you can contact him via email |
| 07:57 |
|
paul |
hdl (& Lea) : you're wrong about unimarc in french only : it's also in ukrainian since 2.2.6 :D |
| 08:10 |
|
Lea |
heh |
| 08:11 |
|
Lea |
is ther a difference between MARC::FILE::XML and MARC::FILE::SAX? I used the cvs versions of the MARC library and MARC::FILE::XML isn't included... |
| 08:11 |
|
Lea |
...but it is on the requirements section of the 2.2.6 release notes |
| 08:14 |
|
Lea |
Here is the result from dumpmarc: |
| 08:15 |
|
Lea |
LDR 00830nam 2200037 45e0 |
| 08:15 |
|
Lea |
001 2000240001 |
| 08:15 |
|
Lea |
I'm guessing that 2000_240_001 means it is infact a genuine MARC21 file... |
| 08:20 |
|
hdl |
dumpmarc should be more verbose than just two lines. |
| 08:21 |
|
hdl |
USMARC and UNIMARC all depends if you have title in 245$a or 200$a |
| 08:21 |
|
hdl |
USMARC have author in 100 field. |
| 08:21 |
|
hdl |
while UNIMARC have it in 200 and 700 |
| 08:27 |
|
Lea |
oh, ok. Let me C&P everything here |
| 08:28 |
|
Lea |
root koha:/root/koha# /usr/local/koha/intranet/scripts/misc/dumpmarc.pl -file test_import.mrc -n 1 |
| 08:28 |
|
Lea |
NUM : 1 |
| 08:28 |
|
Lea |
NUMBER 1 => |
| 08:28 |
|
Lea |
LDR 00830nam 2200037 45e0 |
| 08:28 |
|
Lea |
001 2000240001 |
| 08:28 |
|
Lea |
================== |
| 08:28 |
|
Lea |
5922 record parsed |
| 08:29 |
|
Lea |
That's everything |
| 08:37 |
|
hdl |
try -w |
| 08:38 |
|
hdl |
and without -n 1 |
| 08:40 |
|
Lea |
rootkoha:/root/koha# /usr/local/koha/intranet/scripts/misc/dumpmarc.pl -file test_import.mrc -w |
| 08:40 |
|
Lea |
NUM : 0 |
| 08:40 |
|
Lea |
No directory found in record 1 |
| 08:40 |
|
Lea |
field does not end in end of field character in tag 001 in record 1 |
| 08:40 |
|
Lea |
================== |
| 08:40 |
|
Lea |
1 record parsed |
| 08:40 |
|
Lea |
:( |
| 09:29 |
|
Lea |
bbiab |
| 10:12 |
|
hdl |
Lea : No directory is a bad news. |
| 10:12 |
|
hdl |
directory is the structure of your mrc file |
| 10:13 |
|
Lea |
oh dear.... how can these people claim it's MARC21 compliant? |
| 10:48 |
|
Lea |
if all else fails, I can get the data in CSV format. Any tips on importing that? |
| 10:52 |
|
Lea |
hmm.. there is definately directory data there.... |
