| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:37 |
|
thd |
kados? |
| 12:37 |
|
dewey |
it has been said that kados is becoming a true Perl Monger... |
| 12:38 |
|
thd |
dewey: seen kados? |
| 12:38 |
|
dewey |
kados was last seen on #koha 1 days, 3 hours, 17 minutes and 4 seconds ago, saying: paul++ :-) [Sun Aug 6 02:21:11 2006] |
| 12:42 |
|
thd |
jbrice_: are you there? |
| 12:44 |
|
thd |
dewey: seen jbrice_? |
| 12:44 |
|
dewey |
I haven't seen 'jbrice_', thd |
| 12:44 |
|
thd |
dewey: seen johnb? |
| 12:44 |
|
dewey |
johnb was last seen on #koha 14 days, 16 hours, 21 minutes and 12 seconds ago, saying: hey guys its been fun but they are starting to shoot motars my way (fireworks) got a get out of here before the building catches on fire. [Sun Jul 23 13:23:27 2006] |
| 22:32 |
|
thd |
russ: are you there? |
| 22:34 |
|
russ |
hi thd |
| 22:35 |
|
thd |
hello russ |
| 22:35 |
|
thd |
russ: I have been starting to create wiki content |
| 22:36 |
|
thd |
russ: unfortunately, the default docuwiki CSS is terrible for readability |
| 22:37 |
|
thd |
russ: I have an improved version for readability |
| 22:38 |
|
thd |
russ: I sent it to kados a day and a half ago but he may be too busy to install it |
| 22:39 |
|
thd |
russ: woould you be able to install my improved CSS for the wiki if I sent it to you? |
| 22:39 |
|
russ |
thd: i dont think it is that bad |
| 22:39 |
|
russ |
thd: no, it is on liblimes servers which i dont have access to |
| 22:40 |
|
thd |
russ: oh, yes I remember that it was hosted there now but I thought that you had special access for the wiki |
| 22:41 |
|
thd |
russ: it has very long lines with no margins at a small font size in the main body text |
| 22:42 |
|
thd |
russ: that makes full paragraphs difficult to follow |
| 22:43 |
|
thd |
russ: it even uses justification which sometimes gives you this effect |
| 22:44 |
|
thd |
russ: low contrast links, a heading style which is anomalously not bold, etc. |
| 22:45 |
|
thd |
russ: you would not notice for most wiki content |
| 22:46 |
|
thd |
russ: however I started to include some fuller documents and it became a real problem to read them |
| 22:46 |
|
thd |
russ: I will pester kados to try and change it this week |
| 22:48 |
|
thd |
russ: a CSS like the koha.org CSS would be nice but I did not have that much time to understand all the elements and make as many changes as would be required for that |
| 22:51 |
|
thd |
russ: most wiki content is brief outlines which do not reveal these problems much |
| 02:32 |
|
paul |
hdl around ? |
| 02:32 |
|
hdl |
yes |
| 03:49 |
|
hdl |
!topic an amazing catalogue :http://www.worldcat.org/ |
| 07:08 |
|
jbrice_ |
thd: You lookong for me? |
| 07:09 |
|
thd |
johnb: yes |
| 07:09 |
|
johnb |
thd: what's up? |
| 07:10 |
|
thd |
johnb: I wanted to know the status of your work on setting up a Koha foundation |
| 07:11 |
|
johnb |
thd: I have been doing some research on what type of structure we should have, I have not done anything else |
| 07:11 |
|
thd |
johnb: I what type of structure should we have? |
| 07:12 |
|
thd |
johnb: or what are the good options |
| 07:12 |
|
johnb |
thd: It seems to me that we would best to look at the apache foundation they seem to have a structure that works and keeps all of the vested interests represented |
| 07:15 |
|
thd |
johnb: if that is your conclusion, I am certain that no one in the present community would object to your proceeding with whatever was officially needed. |
| 07:15 |
|
johnb |
thd: the trick in this is creating a structure in which all of the vested interests: developers, users, hosting companies benefit from the foundation |
| 07:16 |
|
johnb |
thd: while at the same time create a forum that can be managed remotely, across national boundaries |
| 07:17 |
|
thd |
johnb: If the Apache foundation is a good model, then use that model |
| 07:17 |
|
slef |
wheel reinvention ;) |
| 07:17 |
|
johnb |
thd: I am kinda of busy this week. Give me a week or so I will create an outline of my thoughts and we can post it to the wiki for comment |
| 07:18 |
|
thd |
slef: who has the first wheel |
| 07:18 |
|
thd |
? |
| 07:18 |
|
johnb |
thd: overall I think the apache foundation model is pretty good, though we may want to tweak it here and there to fit our unique needs |
| 07:19 |
|
slef |
thd: Unsure. There are certainly many wheels there now. Apache, SPI, ... |
| 07:19 |
|
johnb |
thd: Overall I would like the process to be open and have as much comment as possible, it is much easier to change things before they become official |
| 07:20 |
|
thd |
johnb: kados had been the most anxious for having some foundation soon. I think he became too busy to press for some action after developer week. |
| 07:20 |
|
slef |
as in, can't remember how it works |
| 07:21 |
|
slef |
I think the biggest questions are: what are the goals, what are the methods, what are the costs? |
| 07:22 |
|
paul |
everybody : in France, ENSMP & sociology libraries had a meeting in july, and the "association loi 1901" idea continues to be investigated |
| 07:22 |
|
paul |
(hello thd johnb & slef) |
| 07:22 |
|
slef |
hi paul |
| 07:22 |
|
thd |
johnb: certainly, the process should be open. I know slef has important comments. People with actual reservations are seem to express them in terms of a please go ahead and make something great if we like it we will join, |
| 07:25 |
|
slef |
My reservation is the overheads:benefits ratio, but I don't want to prejudge things I don't know enough about. |
| 07:25 |
|
thd |
johnb: if you have a reasonable starting point. The structure should always be amendable by the participants. |
| 07:25 |
|
slef |
thd++ |
| 07:25 |
|
johnb |
Paul: Hello, Paul |
| 07:26 |
|
paul |
that's why thes description of the "association loi 1901" in the 1st draft is quite large. |
| 07:26 |
|
paul |
to let members define exactly what they want to do. |
| 07:26 |
|
paul |
the only important thing being "the association is created to promote the Koha software". |
| 07:27 |
|
paul |
(french word for "promote" having a strong non-commercial meaning, that i'm not sure exist in english) |
| 07:27 |
|
thd |
paul: how is work going to set up a Koha foundation in France? |
| 07:27 |
|
johnb |
We need to agree on a mission and then from the mission we can create structure. |
| 07:27 |
|
paul |
ENSMP & sociology proposed on french mailing list a 1st draft for a structure. |
| 07:28 |
|
paul |
it will have to be discussed after the summer I think |
| 07:28 |
|
thd |
paul: promote is not necessarily commercial in English. |
| 07:28 |
|
slef |
but not necessarily non-commercial either |
| 07:28 |
|
johnb |
here is a good link to check out: www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#structure |
| 07:29 |
|
paul |
in french, when you say "faire la promotion" => non commercial sense. "faire une promotion" => commercial sense |
| 07:29 |
|
paul |
"promouvoir" being non commercial only. |
| 07:30 |
|
slef |
I'd translate "faire la promotion" as "do promotion" and "faire une promotion" as "run a promotion" |
| 07:30 |
|
slef |
"do promotion" says nothing about commercialism |
| 07:30 |
|
slef |
but my french is terrible, as we all know ;-) |
| 07:30 |
|
thd |
paul: English being language soup, lacks that distinction. |
| 07:31 |
|
slef |
I wonder whether I'd translate promouvoir as promote or advocate, usually. |
| 07:31 |
|
johnb |
Not to change to tpic, but Cindy and I are going to be interviewed today by a California movie producer for a documentary entitled "Tipping Point" |
| 07:31 |
|
slef |
anyway, it's certainly not advertise |
| 07:31 |
|
slef |
not necessarily |
| 07:31 |
|
slef |
mmm, english, a language divided unto itself |
| 07:31 |
|
slef |
so much flavour, so much of it bitter |
| 07:32 |
|
slef |
johnb: whassat? |
| 07:32 |
|
thd |
paul: did you mean that the discussion of the French foundation would probably have to wait until after the summer or any foundation? |
| 07:32 |
|
johnb |
The idea of the movie is to discuss how entities chose to use open source. The producer is using open source software to produce the movie. |
| 07:33 |
|
johnb |
Paul: I will post something in the next few weeks and will await comment until mid September before proposing anything. |
| 07:36 |
|
thd |
johnb: my understanding from devel_week is that Katipo may not agree to anything in particular but they will be happy to support and consider joining a foundation which is proven successful. |
| 07:36 |
|
slef |
s/open source/free/ ;-) |
| 07:38 |
|
thd |
johnb: the principals of Katipo could not attend devel week but their representatives made a reasonable presentation about the prospective stance of Katipo. |
| 07:41 |
|
thd |
johnb: we could discuss a more perfect foundation for a year without creating one. At some point, those who need a foundation have to take some initiative to start something. |
| 07:42 |
|
paul |
thd +++ |
| 07:44 |
|
thd |
johnb: as long as the structure is somewhat amendable. A more perfect foundation will never be excluded. |
| 07:45 |
|
thd |
johnb: if everything is done in the light by people with good will, no one will think it unfair. |
| 07:47 |
|
thd |
johnb: Koha is not big enough yet to have anyone worried about slighting some one else's interests. |
| 07:49 |
|
thd |
johnb: the longer it takes, the more opportunities will be lost for promoting the interests of even the people who do not even care particularly about a foundation. |
| 07:51 |
|
thd |
johnb: is Tipping Point liable to go to cinemas or television first? |
| 07:53 |
|
johnb |
thd: I have no idea, they have not told us what there distribution plan is at this point |
| 07:56 |
|
thd |
johnb: they already have a better title than the weak film which I have seen about open source/free software a few years ago. |
| 07:59 |
|
slef |
Revolution OS or something else? |
| 07:59 |
|
thd |
johnb: that film ended with the boost in Red Hat stock price before the bubble collapsed. Nice participants but poor post-filming editing etc. work diluted the quality of some interesting interviews. |
| 08:00 |
|
thd |
slef: yes, that was the title |
| 08:02 |
|
thd |
johnb: tell them to interview Eben Moglen, the FSF lawyer and a fantastic very clever energetic speaker, even if they are able to interview Richard Stallman. |
| 08:06 |
|
Mordazy |
Hello all |
| 08:06 |
|
Mordazy |
I`m new here |
| 08:06 |
|
Mordazy |
got a few questions :) |
| 08:06 |
|
Mordazy |
Anybody here? |
| 08:07 |
|
thd |
hello Mordazy |
| 08:07 |
|
Mordazy |
Hello thd |
| 08:08 |
|
Mordazy |
I`m testing Polish version of Koha 2.2.4 |
| 08:08 |
|
Mordazy |
I like it a lot |
| 08:08 |
|
Mordazy |
however, one thing scared me: |
| 08:09 |
|
thd |
johnb: If they are able to interview Damian Conway, 'mad scientist of Perl', never a dull moment is guaranteed. |
| 08:10 |
|
Mordazy |
I haven`t found a way to "attach" a borrower to more than one library branch |
| 08:11 |
|
thd |
Mordazy:I am not a circulation expert |
| 08:11 |
|
Mordazy |
Also couldn`t verify if a borrower from branch A has restricted access to branch B |
| 08:12 |
|
Mordazy |
thd: pity :( |
| 08:13 |
|
thd |
Mordazy: I think that membership of one branch is usually membership for the library system so I would expect that is default behaviour |
| 08:14 |
|
Mordazy |
That`s the problem. My library has several branches, some of them charge annual fee |
| 08:14 |
|
thd |
Mordazy: so branches have different policies |
| 08:14 |
|
thd |
about membership |
| 08:15 |
|
Mordazy |
yes, it is because the branches that charge annual fee are DVD / Audio collections |
| 08:16 |
|
Mordazy |
the charge is about $6 a year, which is rather symbolic |
| 08:17 |
|
Mordazy |
but yes, the branches have different policies about membership |
| 08:17 |
|
slef |
Mordazy: if you can describe this membership model in more detail to the koha mailing list(s), someone may explain how to do it, or it may be added to a coming version. |
| 08:17 |
|
thd |
Mordazy: branches are certainly provided with policy differentiation |
| 08:17 |
|
johnb |
thd: Will do. |
| 08:18 |
|
thd |
Mordazy: also where had you downloaded Koha? |
| 08:19 |
|
Mordazy |
2.2.4 from Sourceforge, if I remember correctly |
| 08:20 |
|
slef |
Savannah or Sourceforge? |
| 08:20 |
|
Mordazy |
can`t remember, sorry |
| 08:20 |
|
Mordazy |
then copied database structure and intranet files from working Polish installation |
| 08:23 |
|
Mordazy |
I was told that only minor things were changed |
| 08:24 |
|
slef |
run updatedatabase (I think it's in scripts... backup database first) |
| 08:25 |
|
Mordazy |
slef: did that |
| 08:26 |
|
Mordazy |
it`s strange that nobody wanted such borrower / branch restrictions... |
| 08:26 |
|
thd |
Mordazy: there are some major changes/bug fixes in the version being prepared for release |
| 08:26 |
|
thd |
Mordazy: http://download.savannah.nongn[…]rg/releases/koha/ |
| 08:27 |
|
Mordazy |
thd: thanks, I saw that, but for now I must stick with 2.2.4 |
| 08:27 |
|
thd |
Mordazy: the 2.2.6 release candidate is being tested for production release |
| 08:28 |
|
Mordazy |
I know, however the man from whom I took Polish files is not very content about it |
| 08:29 |
|
thd |
Mordazy: unreported bugs prior to 2.2.6 are very scary |
| 08:29 |
|
Mordazy |
I`ll download 2.2.6 and have a look |
| 08:30 |
|
thd |
Mordazy: Is MARC 21 used in Poland? |
| 08:30 |
|
Mordazy |
however, I`m learning all of it yet, so I have to stick with what I have :) |
| 08:31 |
|
Mordazy |
thd: yes, we had local variation of Marc |
| 08:31 |
|
Mordazy |
but now most libraries use M21 |
| 08:33 |
|
thd |
Mordazy: the functions are very similar between 2.2.6 and 2.2.4 except you can loose data and corrupt your records silently in earlier versions. |
| 08:34 |
|
thd |
Mordazy: experimenting with 2.2.4 is fine and has been used at many libraries but I would not feel safe with versions prior to 2.2.6 if I had a library. |
| 08:34 |
|
Mordazy |
hmmmm |
| 08:34 |
|
Mordazy |
you say? |
| 08:36 |
|
Mordazy |
Anyway, there will be a year before we implement Koha in our library |
| 08:36 |
|
thd |
Mordazy: the biggest bug is that without a comprehensive MARC bibliographic framework only in 2.2.6 for MARC 21 your records loose many fields once you edit them. |
| 08:36 |
|
Mordazy |
But I wanted to have a working system in 2-3 months to test... |
| 08:37 |
|
thd |
Mordazy: In one year Koha will be the world's best ILS in version 3.2. |
| 08:38 |
|
Mordazy |
...and I will finish learning Perl, SQL, PHP and many other things :) |
| 08:38 |
|
thd |
Mordazy: there may even be a later version in one year |
| 08:39 |
|
Mordazy |
actually number of releases doesn`t matter to me |
| 08:39 |
|
Mordazy |
once I get system up and running stable, I won`t change it in years :) |
| 08:41 |
|
Mordazy |
OK, have to go |
| 08:42 |
|
Mordazy |
but will come here often, I think :) |
| 08:42 |
|
thd |
Mordazy: there is a major structural change being worked on now which is transforming how everything works. That is already partly available in the 2.3 experimental release which should be stable as 2.4 in a few weeks. |
| 08:42 |
|
Mordazy |
Bye! |
| 08:46 |
|
thd |
kados: are you awake yet? |
| 08:51 |
|
owen |
thd: you and I will have to arm-wrestle for his attention when he wakes up ;) |
| 08:52 |
|
thd |
owen: I only need a minute of his attention |
| 08:53 |
|
thd |
owen: do you have permissions to update the CSS on the wiki? |
| 08:53 |
|
owen |
No, I'm afraid not |
| 08:54 |
|
owen |
Maybe russ? |
| 08:55 |
|
thd |
owen: I sent kados an updated CSS on Saturday. russ told me that he does not have permissions because it is now on a LibLime server. |
| 08:55 |
|
owen |
Oh. I didn't know that. |
| 08:56 |
|
thd |
owen: I think improving the wiki had been a task that pierrick had been addressing, alas no longer. |
| 08:59 |
|
thd |
owen: I wanted to ask kados to find the time to apply my Docuwiki CSS file revisions within a couple of days. He only has to copy the file I sent into place |
| 09:00 |
|
thd |
owen: the default CSS was all on one line, never meant to be human readable. |
| 09:01 |
|
thd |
owen: I found several problems for readability of full documents on the wiki and I want to link to send people to one of them by the end of the week. |
| 09:02 |
|
thd |
or actually even the middle of the week for one person |
| 09:09 |
|
thd |
owen: see http://koha.org/cgi-bin/logs.p[…]saveas=&save=save for some problems I found. |
| 09:20 |
|
kados |
hdl: you around? |
| 09:20 |
|
hdl |
yes. |
| 09:20 |
|
kados |
hdl: any luck on the serials bugs? |
| 09:21 |
|
hdl |
which one full-serial-issue ? |
| 09:22 |
|
hdl |
or next expected issue one ? |
| 09:22 |
|
kados |
1124, 1136, 1125 |
| 09:22 |
|
kados |
serials is broken until those are fixed |
| 09:23 |
|
kados |
I had a client try the new serials and this was based on their report |
| 09:23 |
|
kados |
1140 |
| 09:23 |
|
kados |
4 blocker bugs for serials I think |
| 09:24 |
|
owen |
kados: I tried adding a serial this morning on NPL's test server and got a 500 error |
| 09:24 |
|
kados |
hmmm ... maybe a 5th then :( |
| 09:24 |
|
owen |
Tag "" is not a valid tag. at /home/oleonard/koha/intranet/modules//C4/Bull.pm line 547 |
| 09:24 |
|
kados |
huh ... |
| 09:24 |
|
kados |
that might be a MARC21 prob |
| 09:24 |
|
kados |
did the record you added it for have a leader? |
| 09:25 |
|
hdl |
1124 seems to be a simple order pb Is it not ? |
| 09:25 |
|
owen |
kados: I created a bare-bones record from scratch. All I filled in was a title. |
| 09:26 |
|
kados |
yea, you need to have a leader with position 09 with a value of 'a' |
| 09:26 |
|
kados |
I need to force that in Biblio.pm I think |
| 09:27 |
|
kados |
hdl: it's simple? great, should be simple to fix then ;-) |
| 09:27 |
|
hdl |
kados : Have you read my comment ? |
| 09:27 |
|
kados |
yes ... and I responded |
| 09:27 |
|
hdl |
on that bug ? |
| 09:27 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 09:27 |
|
hdl |
No the answer to your comment. |
| 09:27 |
|
kados |
http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1124 |
| 09:28 |
|
kados |
hdl: take a look at my response |
| 09:29 |
|
hdl |
OK. |
| 09:29 |
|
hdl |
so format_date has a problem. |
| 09:29 |
|
paul |
hdl : about ordering => do you know that mySQL has a if() function, that could be used to order by publisheddate if it is not empty, otherwise by the previous date |
| 09:29 |
|
kados |
hdl: either format_date, or else the serials aren't getting the right dates in the first place |
| 09:29 |
|
paul |
strange, because format_date is used a lot of time all around Koha. What it the exact content of the field before the date_format ? |
| 09:30 |
|
kados |
guys ... can I suggest something? |
| 09:30 |
|
kados |
on one of your installs: |
| 09:30 |
|
kados |
1. create a new subscription |
| 09:30 |
|
kados |
2. check in 5 issues |
| 09:30 |
|
kados |
you should see all the bugs I reported immediately |
| 09:31 |
|
hdl |
kados : ok. |
| 09:32 |
|
hdl |
I will work on this tonight and tomorow. |
| 09:32 |
|
hdl |
(if paul agrees) |
| 09:32 |
|
thd |
kados: will you have a chance to apply my file to fix the wiki CSS some time in the next couple of days? |
| 09:32 |
|
kados |
thd: I will do it now |
| 09:33 |
|
thd |
wow what a response |
| 09:34 |
|
paul |
hoping you won't need 2 days ;-) |
| 09:35 |
|
kados |
thd: where does it go? |
| 09:36 |
|
kados |
thd: replace style.css? |
| 09:36 |
|
thd |
kados check the message |
| 09:38 |
|
kados |
thd: ok, I updated it |
| 09:38 |
|
thd |
kados: it goes here http://wiki.koha.org/lib/exe/css.php |
| 09:38 |
|
kados |
thd: it seems to be quite ugly :-) |
| 09:39 |
|
kados |
thd: I'm going to revert back to the old one if that's OK |
| 09:39 |
|
thd |
kados: i never made a beaurty claim if you read the message. I only claimed that unreadable was uglier. |
| 09:40 |
|
thd |
kados: beauty requires time |
| 09:40 |
|
thd |
kados: I did not have the time for beauty |
| 09:40 |
|
kados |
thd: you have trouble reading the wiki.koha.org site? |
| 09:40 |
|
kados |
thd: why not just increase the font? |
| 09:40 |
|
kados |
size? |
| 09:41 |
|
kados |
thd: also, you can create a local css file for your browser |
| 09:41 |
|
kados |
thd: to override any css on the web |
| 09:41 |
|
thd |
kados: the line lengths are still to long to scan if you have real paragraphs |
| 09:43 |
|
thd |
kados: I still have than perfect vision with a large body and had trouble following full text in the body. |
| 09:45 |
|
thd |
kados: are you back? |
| 09:45 |
|
kados |
thd: yep |
| 09:45 |
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thd |
kados: did you see "I still have than perfect vision with a large body and had trouble following full text in the body." |
| 09:46 |
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thd |
s/perfect/perfect, but text |
| 09:46 |
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kados |
thd: yes, I see that |
| 09:46 |
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thd |
s/vision/vision, but text |
| 09:47 |
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thd |
kados: there was almost no right margin |
| 09:47 |
|
owen |
I didn't see the custom one, but I like the default stylesheet just fine. |
| 09:47 |
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owen |
I don't think we should replace it unless someone can really work out the kinks of a new one |
| 09:47 |
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kados |
thd: I think your sole solution for now is to use a local css to override the existing one :( |
| 09:48 |
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kados |
thd: until, as owen says, someone can really work out the kinks of a new one |
| 09:48 |
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kados |
thd: have you created a local css before? |
| 09:49 |
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thd |
kados: If I have problems with perfect vision I guarantee people with less than perfect vision have a much worse problem |
| 09:49 |
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thd |
kados owen: you have not seen the problems because they are not apparent without full dcuments |
| 09:50 |
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thd |
kados owen-away: the wiki has almost no full documents |
| 09:52 |
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thd |
kados: I used the Firefox web developer plugin to test locally but that steals 20% of the screen so it was difficult to see a proper view. |
| 09:52 |
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kados |
thd: here's what you can do |
| 09:53 |
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kados |
thd: locate your 'crome' dir in your firefox installation |
| 09:53 |
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kados |
in your browser user profile |
| 09:53 |
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kados |
copy the file you emailed me to userContent.css |
| 09:54 |
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kados |
that should override the site's css and you'll be viewing it as you please :-) |
| 09:54 |
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thd |
kados: you mean that every web site will have that CSS? |
| 09:54 |
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kados |
thd: yes :-) |
| 09:55 |
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kados |
you can restrict it to a specific site I think |
| 09:55 |
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kados |
but I don't have time to investigate that |
| 09:55 |
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thd |
kados: I will investigate myself tomorrow |
| 10:07 |
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thd |
kados: I will test the wiki CSS locally tomorrow to try and make it a little more like the beautiful koha.org CSS. I consider it to be a significant problem for including anything more than outline content. I know that my changes were not beautiful but I consider the existing CSS merely decorative and not very functional for full documents. |
| 10:07 |
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kados |
fair enough |
| 10:08 |
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kados |
I'm willing to change the css if someone has a better alternative, but so far, you're the only one to complain about the current one |
| 10:08 |
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kados |
bbl |
| 10:08 |
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thd |
kados: as I said there is nothing to complain about if no one has documents that need anything better |
| 10:12 |
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slef |
I'm just used to sites having broken CSS and I'm usually challenged to fix them if I complain, so I mostly don't complain until I have time to fix if asked. |
| 10:13 |
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kados |
thd did submit a fix, but it was just a bit too ugly for public consumption IMO :-) |
| 10:14 |
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slef |
I was trying to explain why lack of complaints doesn't mean it's good ;-) |
| 10:15 |
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kados |
ahh :-) |
| 10:15 |
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thd |
slef kados: I remember comment during devel week that we should make the wiki CSS like the one at koha.org. Pierrick was going to work on that but not having him around is a big loss. |
| 10:16 |
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kados |
thd: yea, that would be nice |
| 10:17 |
|
thd |
kados: I think it is fine for the outline content it mostly had but I have been trying to put in fuller content and noticing significant problems/ |
| 11:27 |
|
kyle |
kados: are you around? |
| 11:28 |
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kados |
kyle: yep |
| 11:29 |
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kyle |
I was wondering if you could give me more detail on your idea of how to get data out of the offline circ extension, and into koha. |
| 11:29 |
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kados |
right |
| 11:29 |
|
kados |
well off the top of my head |
| 11:29 |
|
kados |
you could create a mirror tmpl that spat out xml |
| 11:30 |
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kados |
when passed a var |
| 11:30 |
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kados |
then you could pretty easily parse that client-side using the standard DOM stuff |
| 11:30 |
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kyle |
ok, I get that. I assume we'd have to a a POST argument to make the perl files use the xml template instead of the standard one. |
| 11:30 |
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kados |
ie, use the same circulation.pl script we have now |
| 11:30 |
|
kados |
yea |
| 11:30 |
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kados |
something like tmpl=xml or something |
| 11:31 |
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kyle |
I don't think I fully understood what you meant the first time you explained it, and this morning the pieces all fell together. |
| 11:31 |
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kados |
cool |
| 11:31 |
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kados |
yea, I don't imagine it'll be that difficult |
| 11:31 |
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kados |
basically you just need to make sure that circulation.xml hands valid xml back |
| 11:32 |
|
kyle |
Are there any resourses you can point me to on POSTING to a webpage from firefox? |
| 11:32 |
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kados |
hmmm |
| 11:32 |
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kados |
use XMLHttpRequest |
| 11:32 |
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kyle |
ok, I'll check that out. I've been doing a bit of reading on XMLHttpRequest. |
| 11:33 |
|
kyle |
I've never worked with AJAX before. |
| 11:33 |
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kados |
kyle: http://labs.liblime.com//js/livesearch.js |
| 11:33 |
|
kados |
kyle: there's something to get you started |
| 11:33 |
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kados |
kyle: labs.liblime.com has the livesearch running if you want to see it in action |
| 11:33 |
|
kyle |
thanks. |
