| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:44 |
|
kados |
dewey: 007 is Physical Description Fixed Field (R) |
| 12:44 |
|
dewey |
OK, kados. |
| 12:45 |
|
kados |
007 |
| 12:45 |
|
kados |
007? |
| 12:45 |
|
dewey |
rumour has it 007 is Physical Description Fixed Field (R) |
| 12:45 |
|
kados |
nice |
| 13:59 |
|
tumer |
kados are you around? |
| 13:59 |
|
kados |
tumer: sure am |
| 13:59 |
|
kados |
tumer: probably will be for the next 12 hours or so till I completely crash :-) |
| 13:59 |
|
tumer |
i have recommited them resorts now |
| 13:59 |
|
kados |
sweet |
| 14:00 |
|
kados |
sorry i didn't commit my stuff |
| 14:00 |
|
kados |
which resorts too |
| 14:00 |
|
kados |
I'm thinking about a creating a new attribute set |
| 14:00 |
|
kados |
for MARC21 |
| 14:00 |
|
kados |
used for indexing fixed fields and other special Koha fields |
| 14:01 |
|
kados |
for now I'm just adding on to bib1 |
| 14:01 |
|
tumer |
i noticed you develoeed a few more entry_points I'll wait to see them |
| 14:02 |
|
kados |
yep, when I'm done I'll commit |
| 14:02 |
|
kados |
(soon as everything's working) :-) |
| 14:02 |
|
tumer |
somebody will have to write pqf.properties for that |
| 14:03 |
|
tumer |
by the way CQL does work even with resort |
| 14:03 |
|
tumer |
but I modified resorting to be a sort after search |
| 14:07 |
|
kados |
bbiab |
| 14:32 |
|
kados |
tumer: looking at your code now |
| 14:32 |
|
kados |
ok, cool, I'll merge it with mine and re-commit |
| 14:33 |
|
tumer |
i know you will oppose the new resort code but it was the quickest way around |
| 14:33 |
|
kados |
owen: search is gonna break for a few minutes :-) |
| 14:33 |
|
owen |
Okay |
| 14:36 |
|
tumer |
owen:sorry I removed the <Display for NPL> parts on this opac-results.tmpl i did not realise you are also using it |
| 14:36 |
|
owen |
No problem. It needed to be taken out |
| 14:43 |
|
paul |
hello world. |
| 14:43 |
|
tumer |
hi paul |
| 14:44 |
|
kados |
hey guys |
| 14:44 |
|
kados |
guess we have a meeting today eh? |
| 14:44 |
|
kados |
not sure I'll have time to preside |
| 14:44 |
|
chris |
hi all |
| 14:44 |
|
ToinS |
hi all |
| 14:45 |
|
chris |
i have tech meeting for work in 45 mins, so i will have to leave in about 25 |
| 14:45 |
|
kados |
and zebra config files |
| 14:46 |
|
kados |
so do we have anything so important to talk about that we should stop working? |
| 14:46 |
|
ToinS |
hehe |
| 14:46 |
|
paul |
yes, we have to speak of 2 things : |
| 14:47 |
|
paul |
- the name of the next stable release + a future 1st ZOOM release |
| 14:47 |
|
paul |
- what ToinS will work on in 2 weeks. |
| 14:47 |
|
chris |
right |
| 14:48 |
|
kados |
sure |
| 14:48 |
|
kados |
1. name of next stable release |
| 14:48 |
|
kados |
my opinion is to have: |
| 14:48 |
|
kados |
rel_2_2 => 2.2.6 |
| 14:48 |
|
kados |
dev_week => 2.3/4 |
| 14:48 |
|
kados |
head => 3.0 |
| 14:49 |
|
chris |
i quite like that idea too |
| 14:49 |
|
tumer |
so do i |
| 14:49 |
|
chris |
assuming at some point we go |
| 14:49 |
|
chris |
head -> rel_3_0 => 3.0 releases |
| 14:49 |
|
paul |
I like it too, although I think we will have a lot of work to synch 3 cvs branches |
| 14:49 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 14:50 |
|
chris |
yep, once 3.0 is released .. should be back to 2 branches again rel_3_0 and head |
| 14:50 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 14:50 |
|
kados |
I'm fine with that ... |
| 14:50 |
|
paul |
what kind of timeline should we expect ? |
| 14:51 |
|
kados |
now that I've got zebra working, I'm less worried about zebra-based koha |
| 14:51 |
|
kados |
well ... |
| 14:51 |
|
paul |
I vote for 2.2.6 next week, 2.4 in july/august and 3.0 at the end of the year. |
| 14:51 |
|
tumer |
so do we merge dev_week with rel2_2 |
| 14:51 |
|
kados |
i have clients that need 2.4 within a month or so ... |
| 14:51 |
|
kados |
paul: I agree with your timeline |
| 14:51 |
|
chris |
me too |
| 14:51 |
|
paul |
it's very important for me to be able to announce 3.0 for the end of the year. |
| 14:52 |
|
kados |
ok |
| 14:52 |
|
paul |
because it will have many new features that are highly waited ! |
| 14:52 |
|
kados |
sure, I understand |
| 14:52 |
|
chris |
getting a 2.4 out, with zoom allows us the time to do 3.0 right |
| 14:52 |
|
kados |
but keep in mind that it's also very important for me that 3.0 be done right |
| 14:52 |
|
paul |
like holidays, news, letters, late returns management... |
| 14:52 |
|
kados |
no shoddy code allowed :-) |
| 14:52 |
|
paul |
shoddy ? |
| 14:52 |
|
kados |
shoddy = badly written |
| 14:53 |
|
kados |
I will be auditing features at some point |
| 14:53 |
|
kados |
for rel_3_0 |
| 14:53 |
|
kados |
so if you have a feature you want included, make sure it's cleanly written ;-) |
| 14:53 |
|
paul |
mmm... badly written from which pov ? |
| 14:54 |
|
paul |
because it can be : |
| 14:54 |
|
paul |
- functionnaly deficient |
| 14:54 |
|
paul |
- poor perl |
| 14:54 |
|
paul |
- poor SQL |
| 14:54 |
|
paul |
(or even the 3 :-( ) |
| 14:54 |
|
kados |
functionality / features aren't my primary concern |
| 14:54 |
|
kados |
because we can assume that libraries sponsored that |
| 14:54 |
|
paul |
kados: ++ |
| 14:55 |
|
kados |
mainly it's poor perl and poor SQL that makes mainteannce a nightmare |
| 14:55 |
|
chris |
the thing that we need to be careful of |
| 14:55 |
|
chris |
is when we change the way something works |
| 14:55 |
|
kados |
ryan and I have been tearing our hair out the last few weeks |
| 14:55 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 14:55 |
|
chris |
is that we do that with a system preference |
| 14:55 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 14:55 |
|
paul |
yep too |
| 14:55 |
|
chris |
for eg, the changes in circulation |
| 14:56 |
|
chris |
i think bob emailed about and arnaud answered, ill follow that up today |
| 14:56 |
|
kados |
good example |
| 14:56 |
|
chris |
saying i think we should have a system preference for that |
| 14:56 |
|
kados |
definitely |
| 14:56 |
|
kados |
me too :-) |
| 14:56 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 14:57 |
|
kados |
ok ... so we all set on versioning questions for now? |
| 14:57 |
|
chris |
the change assumes that if you return a book at a library other than its homebranch, you want it back at its homebranch and sets up a transfer for it |
| 14:57 |
|
paul |
so, we are at point 2 it seems : ToinS 1st goal |
| 14:57 |
|
chris |
which is cool, if thats the behaviour u expect |
| 14:57 |
|
kados |
chris: NPL wants this if i understand correctly ... |
| 14:57 |
|
paul |
it seems it will be code cleaning and code cleaning and maybe a little bit code cleaning. |
| 14:57 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 14:57 |
|
ToinS |
hehe |
| 14:57 |
|
kados |
a good plan I think |
| 14:57 |
|
paul |
I hate coca cola ! |
| 14:57 |
|
paul |
(ads from them on TV just now) |
| 14:58 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 14:58 |
|
chris |
code cleaning is great |
| 14:58 |
|
kados |
yep, also a good way to get familiar with the project |
| 14:58 |
|
paul |
yep. |
| 14:58 |
|
kados |
ToinS: feel free to ask us questions |
| 14:58 |
|
kados |
ToinS: on the list or on IRC |
| 14:58 |
|
ToinS |
ok kados |
| 14:58 |
|
kados |
any time of day :-) |
| 14:58 |
|
chris |
or in cvs commits too |
| 14:58 |
|
paul |
so, 15 days investigating Koha organisation & 1,5 month cleaning code |
| 14:58 |
|
ToinS |
ok ok! |
| 14:58 |
|
paul |
in 2 months he should do a good job |
| 14:59 |
|
kados |
excellent |
| 14:59 |
|
chris |
:-) |
| 14:59 |
|
kados |
anything else to discuss? |
| 14:59 |
|
paul |
kados: & chris repeat this 10 times to ToinS, because he is 2meters far from me, and rarely ask me questions... |
| 14:59 |
|
chris |
and its good timing, because he can watch the world cup too :) |
| 14:59 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 14:59 |
|
paul |
he must learn that "1 knowing is better than 10 searching" |
| 15:00 |
|
paul |
(french proverb) |
| 15:00 |
|
kados |
yep ... |
| 15:00 |
|
kados |
no sense wasting valuable time searching when you could just ask :-) |
| 15:00 |
|
chris |
just on a positive note |
| 15:00 |
|
ToinS |
i've noted |
| 15:00 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 15:01 |
|
ToinS |
:-) |
| 15:01 |
|
chris |
in the last 24 hours, ive seen commits from paul, tumer, pierrick, bruno, mason, bob, me, joshua, paul, and i think arnaud too |
| 15:01 |
|
tumer |
kados:did you ask chris about contex.pm and xml |
| 15:01 |
|
chris |
its great to see lots of ppl working |
| 15:01 |
|
paul |
chris: right, & I was very happy to see so many commits ! |
| 15:02 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 15:02 |
|
kados |
tumer: no ... I got it working |
| 15:02 |
|
kados |
tumer: no more hardcoded stuff |
| 15:02 |
|
kados |
tumer: it just started working one day :-) |
| 15:02 |
|
tumer |
:-d |
| 15:02 |
|
chris |
he asked me |
| 15:02 |
|
chris |
and then it worked |
| 15:02 |
|
chris |
im magic :-) |
| 15:02 |
|
kados |
yea :-) |
| 15:02 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 15:03 |
|
chris |
ok, im off to eat breakfast with the katipo tech team |
| 15:03 |
|
kados |
ciao |
| 15:03 |
|
tumer |
bye |
| 15:03 |
|
kados |
many thanks to the katipo team |
| 15:03 |
|
chris |
be back in an hour or 2 |
| 15:03 |
|
kados |
sweet |
| 15:03 |
|
chris |
theyve caught the committing bug |
| 15:03 |
|
kados |
nice |
| 15:03 |
|
chris |
so expect commits to come much more often |
| 15:03 |
|
paul |
chris |
| 15:04 |
|
paul |
a last question |
| 15:04 |
|
chris |
we still have all the templates to go thru and commit the changes to prog, plus serials |
| 15:04 |
|
paul |
could you explain on koha-devel how branches categories work ? |
| 15:04 |
|
chris |
over the next couple of days |
| 15:04 |
|
chris |
ahh yes |
| 15:04 |
|
chris |
will do paul |
| 15:04 |
|
paul |
because i'm not able to explain to SAN |
| 15:04 |
|
chris |
ill email when i get back from meeting |
| 15:05 |
|
paul |
so the meeting is done ? |
| 15:05 |
|
paul |
wow, I told my wife that we will end late ! |
| 15:07 |
|
kados |
paul: now's your chance to work late :-) |
| 15:07 |
|
paul |
great ! |
| 15:07 |
|
ToinS |
hehe |
| 15:07 |
|
paul |
bye bye everybody |
| 15:07 |
|
kados |
bye paul |
| 15:07 |
|
tumer |
bon soir paul |
| 15:07 |
|
ToinS |
bye paul |
| 15:08 |
|
ToinS |
tumer: s/bon soir/bonsoir/ ;-) |
| 15:08 |
|
tumer |
thanks Toins |
| 15:09 |
|
paul |
however, bon soir is "good evening". |
| 15:09 |
|
paul |
but it became bonsoir (in 1 word) some centuries ago. |
| 15:11 |
|
tumer |
bon nuit then |
| 15:11 |
|
tumer |
is that bonnuit as well ? |
| 15:11 |
|
ToinS |
no |
| 15:11 |
|
ToinS |
bonne nuit |
| 15:12 |
|
tumer |
well i give up |
| 15:13 |
|
kados |
tumer: can you set your editor to use 4-character tabs? |
| 15:13 |
|
tumer |
it does not have that facility |
| 15:14 |
|
kados |
bummer |
| 15:14 |
|
tumer |
i'll try and find another editor |
| 15:14 |
|
kados |
since we're working on the same code |
| 15:14 |
|
kados |
it might be nice to agree on a format |
| 15:14 |
|
kados |
I propose: |
| 15:14 |
|
kados |
if { |
| 15:15 |
|
kados |
my $something; |
| 15:15 |
|
kados |
} |
| 15:15 |
|
kados |
so every block is indented one tab |
| 15:15 |
|
kados |
blocks within blocks also |
| 15:15 |
|
kados |
makes it easier to see where the logic is |
| 15:15 |
|
tumer |
once i ca find some editor with tabs i fully agree |
| 15:16 |
|
tumer |
even for me i use spaces to try t compensate that but its difficult |
| 15:18 |
|
tumer |
kados: it seems i was cut off after: it makes it easier... |
| 15:18 |
|
kados |
owen: do you know of a good editor for windows? |
| 15:19 |
|
owen |
I've struggled with that question repeatedly. |
| 15:19 |
|
owen |
Lots of folks swear by jedit |
| 15:20 |
|
owen |
HTML-Kit is another free one (though not open source, I think) |
| 15:22 |
|
kados |
tumer: just commited a merged opac-zoomsearch.pl |
| 15:22 |
|
kados |
owen: do you want to merge tumer's changes into your template? |
| 15:22 |
|
owen |
Sure |
| 15:22 |
|
kados |
give me a minute or two more |
| 15:22 |
|
tumer |
k |
| 15:22 |
|
kados |
well ... maybe its' the template, can't be sure |
| 15:23 |
|
kados |
ahh ... |
| 15:23 |
|
kados |
HTML::Template::param() : attempt to set parameter 'searchdesc' with a scalar - parameter is not a TMPL_VAR! at opac-zoomsearch.pl line 64 |
| 15:23 |
|
kados |
musta missed that one ... |
| 15:25 |
|
kados |
huh ... I don't get it |
| 15:25 |
|
kados |
tumer: any clues? |
| 15:25 |
|
kados |
does that just mean it's not in the templates? |
| 15:25 |
|
tumer |
searchdesc was an array ow is not |
| 15:25 |
|
kados |
ahh |
| 15:26 |
|
kados |
in fact, it's not even in the templates |
| 15:26 |
|
tumer |
it line 17 of zoosearch |
| 15:27 |
|
tumer |
it has to be my $searchdesc |
| 15:27 |
|
kados |
I've got: |
| 15:27 |
|
kados |
my $searchdesc; |
| 15:28 |
|
tumer |
line 42 and line 66 |
| 15:28 |
|
kados |
then got: |
| 15:28 |
|
kados |
$searchdesc=$cql_query.$pqf_query; |
| 15:28 |
|
kados |
$template->param(searchdesc => $searchdesc ); |
| 15:28 |
|
kados |
and that's it |
| 15:28 |
|
tumer |
all ok |
| 15:28 |
|
tumer |
whats in template? |
| 15:29 |
|
kados |
ahh ... |
| 15:29 |
|
kados |
it's a loop |
| 15:29 |
|
kados |
so I just delete it and replae with yours |
| 15:29 |
|
kados |
owen: take note :-) |
| 15:30 |
|
tumer |
well there were other changes on that template as well |
| 15:30 |
|
kados |
actually ... owen I'm going to just merge them with cvs |
| 15:31 |
|
kados |
owen: no conflicts |
| 15:31 |
|
kados |
we're in business |
| 15:32 |
|
kados |
http://zoomopac.liblime.com |
| 15:32 |
|
kados |
tumer: thanks ... |
| 15:32 |
|
kados |
tumer: so at this point ... |
| 15:32 |
|
kados |
tumer: I'll be adding a bunch of new features |
| 15:33 |
|
kados |
tumer: to the results screen |
| 15:33 |
|
kados |
tumer: and will commit tonight when I'm done |
| 15:33 |
|
owen |
kados: looks like I just lost my permissions again |
| 15:34 |
|
kados |
owen: yea ... on purpose :-) |
| 15:34 |
|
kados |
owen: sec |
| 15:34 |
|
kados |
owen: k, go ahead |
| 15:34 |
|
kados |
owen: I merged opac-results.tmpl |
| 15:34 |
|
kados |
owen: appears to be working |
| 15:35 |
|
kados |
resort isnt' tho |
| 15:35 |
|
kados |
probably my fault |
| 15:36 |
|
kados |
tumer: can you briefly tell me how your resort works? |
| 15:37 |
|
kados |
tumer: you use ZEbra to cache the query? |
| 15:37 |
|
tumer |
zebra supposed to cahce it itsel |
| 15:37 |
|
tumer |
i just do a sort after search on resorts |
| 15:38 |
|
kados |
ahh ... i see |
| 15:38 |
|
tumer |
but the code for resort both in templates and code is changed |
| 15:38 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 15:39 |
|
kados |
I like your way |
| 15:39 |
|
kados |
but ... |
| 15:39 |
|
tumer |
i use "1=4 i< 1=30 >" and aplly teh sort to results->sort |
| 15:39 |
|
tumer |
go ahead |
| 15:39 |
|
kados |
it's still important to store the original query seprately on the results page |
| 15:39 |
|
kados |
because you need it for a 'search within results' |
| 15:39 |
|
kados |
I'm gonna rewrite it :-) |
| 15:40 |
|
kados |
tumer: thanks for getting the results integrated |
| 15:40 |
|
tumer |
origionl query is aleyas stored |
| 15:40 |
|
kados |
(separate from sort_as?) |
| 15:40 |
|
tumer |
yes |
| 15:40 |
|
kados |
ok |
| 15:41 |
|
tumer |
variable forminputs keeps the origional query |
| 15:42 |
|
kados |
got it |
| 15:42 |
|
tumer |
we have a reorder_query variable that keeps the new sort |
| 15:43 |
|
tumer |
so you can ask for any variable any time |
| 15:44 |
|
tumer |
but you may have brilliant iadeas like this search module so go ahead and change it |
| 15:46 |
|
tumer |
i just looked at your page no author names? |
| 15:50 |
|
kados |
owen: what was the variable you needed for tabs? |
| 15:51 |
|
owen |
search_type is what it was in opac-catalogue-home.pl (see line 243, for instance) |
| 15:53 |
|
kados |
ok |
| 15:53 |
|
kados |
I was calling that search_form |
| 15:55 |
|
kados |
query_form actually |
| 15:56 |
|
kados |
owen: ok ... it's available now |
| 15:56 |
|
kados |
owen: knock yourself out :-) |
| 15:56 |
|
kados |
owen: want a default value for it? |
| 15:56 |
|
kados |
owen: cql maybe? |
| 15:56 |
|
owen |
yeah, that'd be good |
| 15:57 |
|
kados |
k |
| 15:57 |
|
kados |
k, it should work now |
| 15:57 |
|
kados |
owen: anything else I haven't made available to you that you need? |
| 15:58 |
|
owen |
Not yet |
| 15:58 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 15:58 |
|
tumer |
kados:so are you committing these shall i wait? |
| 16:00 |
|
owen |
kados: where in the script is that default getting set? |
| 16:00 |
|
ToinS |
bye all |
| 16:05 |
|
kados |
owen: top line |
| 16:05 |
|
kados |
my $query_form = $query->param('query_form') | "cql"; # which query form was submitted |
| 16:06 |
|
owen |
Okay, that's not really what I need. |
| 16:06 |
|
kados |
ok, what do you need? |
| 16:06 |
|
owen |
I need something like we had in the old script: |
| 16:06 |
|
owen |
my $search_type = $query->param('search_type'); |
| 16:06 |
|
owen |
if ((!$search_type) || ($search_type eq 'cql')) { |
| 16:06 |
|
owen |
$template->param(cql_search => 1); |
| 16:06 |
|
owen |
} elsif ($search_type eq 'precise') { |
| 16:06 |
|
owen |
$template->param(precise_search => 1); |
| 16:06 |
|
owen |
} elsif ($search_type eq 'keyword') { |
| 16:06 |
|
owen |
$template->param(keyword_search => 1); |
| 16:06 |
|
owen |
} elsif ($search_type eq 'loose') { |
| 16:06 |
|
owen |
$template->param(loose_search => 1); |
| 16:06 |
|
owen |
} |
| 16:06 |
|
owen |
so that I can say <!-- TMPL_IF NAME="cql" --> |
| 16:07 |
|
kados |
gotcha |
| 16:07 |
|
owen |
...because I can't say <!-- TMPL_IF queryform = "cql" --> |
| 16:07 |
|
kados |
right |
| 16:07 |
|
kados |
ok, no prob |
| 16:07 |
|
kados |
just a sec |
| 16:10 |
|
kados |
you want them named 'cql_search' or just cql? |
| 16:10 |
|
owen |
doesn't matter |
| 16:12 |
|
kados |
ok ... done |
| 16:13 |
|
kados |
cql_search |
| 16:13 |
|
kados |
advanced_search |
| 16:13 |
|
kados |
power_search |
| 16:13 |
|
kados |
proximity_search |
| 16:15 |
|
kados |
owen: btw ... feel free to add a link on every search point to a help pop-up |
| 16:15 |
|
kados |
help.pl |
| 16:15 |
|
kados |
I'll enable it eventually |
| 16:15 |
|
kados |
(eventually being sometime in the next 12 hours :-) |
| 16:16 |
|
tumer |
goodnight all |
| 16:16 |
|
kados |
night tumer |
| 16:26 |
|
owen |
kados: Under the advanced search, the 'format' options we could customize with our own itemtype groupings? |
| 16:26 |
|
kados |
correct |
| 16:26 |
|
kados |
under power search too |
| 16:27 |
|
kados |
owen: I've got them as: |
| 16:27 |
|
kados |
ta = regular print |
| 16:27 |
|
kados |
tb = large print |
| 16:27 |
|
kados |
vf = vhs |
| 16:27 |
|
kados |
vd = video disk |
| 16:27 |
|
kados |
sd = sound disk - book on CD or music CD |
| 16:27 |
|
kados |
ss = sound cassette |
| 16:27 |
|
kados |
co = CD-ROM |
| 16:27 |
|
kados |
(ignore the two letter code) |
| 16:27 |
|
kados |
go ahead and throw those inputs in there with blank values |
| 16:28 |
|
kados |
I'll populate the values when I've got the index updated |
| 16:28 |
|
owen |
hunh? |
| 16:28 |
|
owen |
inputs with blank values? |
| 16:28 |
|
kados |
just put in: |
| 16:28 |
|
kados |
<input value="">Video Disk</input? |
| 16:28 |
|
kados |
> even |
| 16:29 |
|
kados |
does that make sense? |
| 16:29 |
|
kados |
then ... I'll come along tonight |
| 16:29 |
|
kados |
and turn that int: |
| 16:29 |
|
kados |
<input value="@attr 1=8003 vd">Video Disk</input> |
| 16:29 |
|
kados |
or whatever it is |
| 16:30 |
|
kados |
(it'll actually be much more complicated than that |
| 16:30 |
|
owen |
Are we forced by the leader values to accept books on CD and music CDs lumped together? |
| 16:30 |
|
kados |
no |
| 16:30 |
|
kados |
in fact, they distinguish |
| 16:30 |
|
kados |
put what you want in the inputs |
| 16:30 |
|
owen |
/whew/ |
| 16:30 |
|
kados |
I'll figure out how to make it work :-) |
| 16:31 |
|
owen |
We never /wanted/ to call DVDs 'video discs,' it was just a kludge to get them to show up next to videos in the format list |
| 16:31 |
|
kados |
right |
| 16:31 |
|
kados |
well you can go: |
| 16:31 |
|
kados |
Videodisk (DVD) |
| 16:31 |
|
kados |
like worldcat does |
| 16:32 |
|
kados |
we're not tied to a specific order anymore |
| 16:32 |
|
kados |
at least not for the formats |
| 16:44 |
|
owen |
kados: I don't know how much time I'll have this evening, but I'll try to check in |
| 16:44 |
|
kados |
don't sweat it |
| 16:45 |
|
kados |
thanks for working on it today |
| 16:45 |
|
kados |
we've made excellent progress |
| 16:45 |
|
kados |
I think I can get it at least in a beta phase by tomorrow morning |
| 16:45 |
|
kados |
I'm actually gonna take dinner in a minute or so |
| 16:45 |
|
kados |
owen: anything you need before I do? |
| 16:46 |
|
owen |
No, I'm about to take off too |
| 16:46 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 16:46 |
|
kados |
have a good evening |
| 16:46 |
|
kados |
thanks again |
| 16:46 |
|
owen |
Likewise |
| 17:15 |
|
chris |
back |
| 19:00 |
|
kados |
chris: seen this lately: |
| 19:00 |
|
dewey |
I haven't seen 'this', kados |
| 19:00 |
|
kados |
http://zoomopac.liblime.com/cg[…]?query_form=power |
| 19:00 |
|
kados |
still got a ways to go |
| 19:00 |
|
kados |
ie, not everything works yet :-) |
| 19:00 |
|
kados |
but we're getting there |
| 19:01 |
|
kados |
in fact, the db is currently re-indexing |
| 19:01 |
|
kados |
so it's completely broken now :-) |
| 19:01 |
|
kados |
15 minutes |
| 19:02 |
|
chris |
:-) |
| 19:03 |
|
kados |
now that I understand it, zebra totally rocks |
| 19:03 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 19:04 |
|
kados |
and I'm actually kinda liking MARC21 at the moment |
| 19:04 |
|
kados |
strange as that may seem :-) |
| 19:04 |
|
chris |
oh i dont mind it |
| 19:04 |
|
chris |
its fine for what its desinged for |
| 19:04 |
|
chris |
just dont make people have to see it |
| 19:04 |
|
chris |
:-) |
| 19:04 |
|
kados |
right :-) |
| 19:06 |
|
chris |
for a data transport/storage layer its fine |
| 19:06 |
|
chris |
you dont want to search it |
| 19:06 |
|
chris |
you want to search a representation of it .. which is what zebra gives us |
| 19:06 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 19:07 |
|
chris |
yeah i think that zebra gives the opportunity to do a lot of really cool things |
| 19:07 |
|
chris |
and if we get 2.4 out |
| 19:08 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 19:08 |
|
chris |
that will give us time to get 3.0 right |
| 19:08 |
|
kados |
yea |
| 19:08 |
|
chris |
:-) |
| 19:08 |
|
kados |
i think I'll have the beta of the search working tonight |
| 19:08 |
|
chris |
zebra stores its indexes as files right? |
| 19:09 |
|
kados |
well ... yes, they are files |
| 19:09 |
|
kados |
but you can't really tell what they're for I think |
| 19:09 |
|
chris |
ah right |
| 19:09 |
|
kados |
everything is stored as binary |
| 19:09 |
|
chris |
cos i was thinking |
| 19:09 |
|
chris |
you could have a cron job watching them, and cvs committing any time they change |
| 19:10 |
|
chris |
but if they are binary that wont work |
| 19:10 |
|
chris |
was a 3am idea, so is probably daft :) |
| 19:11 |
|
kados |
heh |
| 19:12 |
|
kados |
well what we have |
| 19:12 |
|
kados |
is just as good i think |
| 19:12 |
|
kados |
we can just save the xml records |
| 19:12 |
|
kados |
in a directory |
| 19:12 |
|
chris |
yeah true |
| 19:12 |
|
chris |
and rebuild |
| 19:12 |
|
kados |
the index isn't a big deal |
| 19:12 |
|
kados |
you can rebuild it in 15 minutes |
| 19:13 |
|
kados |
and with shadow registers |
| 19:13 |
|
kados |
you can run the db at the same time |
| 19:13 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 19:13 |
|
kados |
a commit takes under a minute |
| 19:13 |
|
chris |
sounds good |
| 19:13 |
|
kados |
with 150k records |
| 19:13 |
|
chris |
sweet |
| 19:13 |
|
kados |
so worse case scenerio |
| 19:13 |
|
kados |
you're down 60 seconds :-) |
| 19:13 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 19:14 |
|
kados |
the speed is just crazy fast |
| 19:14 |
|
chris |
another crackpot idea i had |
| 19:14 |
|
kados |
yea? |
| 19:14 |
|
chris |
was you could have multiple zebra |
| 19:14 |
|
chris |
on different machines |
| 19:14 |
|
chris |
an update does them all |
| 19:14 |
|
chris |
a search round robins |
| 19:15 |
|
kados |
yea, that'd be good for super large collections |
| 19:15 |
|
kados |
but honestly |
| 19:15 |
|
kados |
our bottleneck here at this point is web traffic and cgi |
| 19:15 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 19:15 |
|
chris |
which is cool |
| 19:15 |
|
kados |
zebra is really fast |
| 19:15 |
|
kados |
and it doesn't get slower the more records you add |
| 19:15 |
|
kados |
because of the structure of the index |
| 19:15 |
|
chris |
sweet |
| 19:16 |
|
kados |
npl has a language search now :-) |
| 19:16 |
|
chris |
sweet |
| 19:16 |
|
kados |
oh ... btw ... |
| 19:16 |
|
kados |
any ideas on this |
| 19:16 |
|
kados |
I've got a form like this: |
| 19:16 |
|
kados |
<form> |
| 19:16 |
|
kados |
<input name="query1"> |
| 19:16 |
|
kados |
<input name="op1"? |
| 19:17 |
|
kados |
> even |
| 19:17 |
|
kados |
<input name="query1"> |
| 19:17 |
|
kados |
<input name="op2"> |
| 19:17 |
|
kados |
query2 I mean :-) |
| 19:17 |
|
chris |
right |
| 19:17 |
|
kados |
so ... |
| 19:17 |
|
kados |
op2 should only be used if query1 and query2 are used |
| 19:17 |
|
chris |
right |
| 19:18 |
|
kados |
I'm stumped |
| 19:18 |
|
chris |
how to do it in that specific case, or in a generalised way? |
| 19:18 |
|
kados |
in a generalized way |
| 19:18 |
|
kados |
well let me back up |
| 19:19 |
|
kados |
here's how i catch those inputs |
| 19:19 |
|
kados |
my @attributes = ("query","op") |
| 19:19 |
|
kados |
then ... |
| 19:19 |
|
kados |
foreach (1..10) { |
| 19:20 |
|
kados |
$query = $query->param('query$i'); |
| 19:20 |
|
kados |
$op = $qpery->param(op$i); |
| 19:20 |
|
kados |
} |
| 19:20 |
|
chris |
k |
| 19:20 |
|
kados |
well ... slightly more complicated than that actually |
| 19:20 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 19:20 |
|
kados |
in fact, I really need a better way to handle the RPN query |
| 19:21 |
|
kados |
it's a prefix notation |
| 19:21 |
|
kados |
so 4+5 |
| 19:21 |
|
kados |
looks like |
| 19:21 |
|
kados |
+ 4 5 |
| 19:21 |
|
chris |
bnf |
| 19:21 |
|
chris |
thats called |
| 19:21 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 19:21 |
|
kados |
it gets fairly complex |
| 19:21 |
|
kados |
because each operand can be a whole query |
| 19:21 |
|
kados |
so you can have really complex structures |
| 19:21 |
|
chris |
well a subset of it |
| 19:21 |
|
chris |
right |
| 19:22 |
|
kados |
any ideas? |
| 19:22 |
|
kados |
i was looking at what Mike Taylor did in Net::Z3950::SimpleServer |
| 19:22 |
|
kados |
which is to have 'augmented classes' |
| 19:22 |
|
kados |
you basically override a render method on a bunch of classes |
| 19:23 |
|
kados |
and walkk the tree |
| 19:23 |
|
chris |
yeah |
| 19:23 |
|
kados |
but I don't quite grok how to build that |
| 19:23 |
|
chris |
ur having to build a compiler :) |
| 19:23 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 19:23 |
|
kados |
cool :-) |
| 19:24 |
|
kados |
I hear there's some way called FIFO |
| 19:24 |
|
kados |
first in first out |
| 19:24 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 19:24 |
|
kados |
but don't quite understand how that works |
| 19:24 |
|
kados |
(well, haven't properly googled it either :-)) |
| 19:24 |
|
kados |
but I'm going to have to replace my current scheme |
| 19:24 |
|
kados |
it has one flaw |
| 19:25 |
|
kados |
which is that when you put in a query in the second, third, etc |
| 19:25 |
|
kados |
it adds the operator |
| 19:25 |
|
kados |
which makes it invalid RPN |
| 19:25 |
|
kados |
(if there is no first term) |
| 19:25 |
|
chris |
right |
| 19:25 |
|
kados |
sorry if that doesn't make sense :-) |
| 19:25 |
|
chris |
no it does |
| 19:26 |
|
chris |
there are 2 approaches to this |
| 19:26 |
|
kados |
k |
| 19:26 |
|
chris |
1 force the form to send compliant data before we parse |
| 19:26 |
|
chris |
ie if you get something that has 2 and 3 filled but not one, force the user to fill in 1 |
| 19:26 |
|
kados |
difficult to do in html ... imposible I think |
| 19:26 |
|
chris |
no do it in the script |
| 19:27 |
|
chris |
but before you try to parse it into rpn |
| 19:27 |
|
kados |
yea, that wont' work |
| 19:27 |
|
kados |
because sometimes I'm gonna want to just search for everything in spanish |
| 19:27 |
|
chris |
the other approach is to build a parser that tries to correct users mistakes |
| 19:27 |
|
kados |
which is not the first query |
| 19:27 |
|
kados |
hmmm |
| 19:28 |
|
kados |
like 'count the number of operands' |
| 19:28 |
|
kados |
count the number of operators |
| 19:28 |
|
kados |
make operators = operands - 1 |
| 19:28 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 19:28 |
|
kados |
ok |
| 19:28 |
|
kados |
easy enough |
| 19:28 |
|
kados |
only time it would ever mess up |
| 19:28 |
|
chris |
one way |
| 19:28 |
|
chris |
is |
| 19:28 |
|
kados |
is with @or i think |
| 19:29 |
|
chris |
for (my $i=0;$i<11;$i++){ |
| 19:29 |
|
chris |
actually |
| 19:29 |
|
chris |
for (my $i=1;$i<11;$i++){ |
| 19:29 |
|
chris |
in this case |
| 19:29 |
|
kados |
right |
| 19:29 |
|
chris |
hmm lemme think ok, here goes |
| 19:30 |
|
kados |
the way I do it now |
| 19:30 |
|
kados |
is to run through them twice |
| 19:30 |
|
kados |
once for the operator |
| 19:30 |
|
kados |
s |
| 19:30 |
|
kados |
once for the queries |
| 19:30 |
|
kados |
so instead of putting them into scalars |
| 19:30 |
|
kados |
I'll just push them into arrays |
| 19:31 |
|
kados |
that'll make it a piece of cake |
| 19:31 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 19:31 |
|
kados |
so the question is, which one to drop :-) |
| 19:31 |
|
chris |
you could construct an thing |
| 19:31 |
|
chris |
a thing |
| 19:31 |
|
kados |
you've got @and, @or, @not |
| 19:31 |
|
kados |
ahh ... |
| 19:32 |
|
kados |
it's aleays going to be the first one |
| 19:32 |
|
kados |
always |
| 19:32 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 19:32 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 19:32 |
|
kados |
so that's a since |
| 19:32 |
|
kados |
sinch even :-0 |
| 19:32 |
|
kados |
my new macbook has a slightly different keyboard |
| 19:32 |
|
kados |
still getting used to it |
| 19:32 |
|
kados |
btw ... triple booting :-) |
| 19:32 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 19:32 |
|
kados |
got debian installed last night |
| 19:32 |
|
kados |
etch |
| 19:32 |
|
kados |
and winxp too |
| 19:33 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 19:33 |
|
kados |
if only there was some way to have them all running at the same time |
| 19:33 |
|
chris |
good for testing |
| 19:33 |
|
kados |
definitely |
| 19:33 |
|
kados |
cool, thanks for brainstorming with me |
| 19:33 |
|
chris |
np |
| 19:34 |
|
kados |
index is rebuilt |
| 19:34 |
|
kados |
if you want to give some searches a shot |
| 19:34 |
|
kados |
just keep in mind that limitation |
| 19:34 |
|
kados |
in the power search, I put an 'a' in the first search box |
| 19:34 |
|
kados |
which catches it |
| 19:34 |
|
chris |
ah ok |
| 19:36 |
|
chris |
sweet |
| 19:36 |
|
kados |
maori :-) |
| 19:37 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 19:37 |
|
kados |
is the title 'maori'? |
| 19:37 |
|
chris |
legends of aotearoa |
| 19:37 |
|
kados |
ahh |
| 19:37 |
|
kados |
well you can try out the exact title search |
| 19:37 |
|
kados |
it's in the advanced tab |
| 19:37 |
|
kados |
one-word titles even work |
| 19:38 |
|
chris |
ill give that bash |
| 19:38 |
|
kados |
like 'cell' |
| 19:38 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 19:38 |
|
chris |
if i can spell |
| 19:39 |
|
chris |
sweet got it |
| 19:40 |
|
chris |
so i guess the next thing to try |
| 19:40 |
|
chris |
is making the stemming work? |
| 19:40 |
|
chris |
eg |
| 19:40 |
|
chris |
http://zoomopac.liblime.com/cg[…]d&query10=&sort_b |
| 19:40 |
|
chris |
hmm big url |
| 19:40 |
|
chris |
title search (not exact) |
| 19:40 |
|
kados |
stemming doesn't work |
| 19:40 |
|
chris |
on legend of aotearoa (ie i left the s off) |
| 19:40 |
|
kados |
but ... |
| 19:41 |
|
kados |
truncation does |
| 19:41 |
|
kados |
so if you set truncation to right-truncated |
| 19:41 |
|
kados |
it'll find it |
| 19:41 |
|
chris |
ahh sweet |
| 19:41 |
|
chris |
that will work |
| 19:41 |
|
kados |
what i want to sponsor |
| 19:41 |
|
kados |
is stemming and phonetics |
| 19:41 |
|
kados |
it's simple really |
| 19:41 |
|
chris |
yeah thatd rock |
| 19:41 |
|
kados |
you implement them as indexes |
| 19:41 |
|
chris |
so currently |
| 19:41 |
|
kados |
simple I htink |
| 19:41 |
|
chris |
if i went |
| 19:41 |
|
chris |
legend's |
| 19:41 |
|
chris |
it wouldnt find legends eh? |
| 19:42 |
|
kados |
' is equiv to a space |
| 19:42 |
|
kados |
and if you did it as a fuzzy search |
| 19:42 |
|
kados |
it would allow that one error |
| 19:42 |
|
chris |
sweet |
| 19:42 |
|
chris |
cos that would rule |
| 19:42 |
|
kados |
yep :-) |
| 19:42 |
|
chris |
so many ppl leave ' out |
| 19:42 |
|
chris |
or add them |
| 19:42 |
|
kados |
part of the learning process |
| 19:42 |
|
kados |
is what the defaults should be |
| 19:42 |
|
chris |
yeah |
| 19:42 |
|
kados |
you can also specify 'process # in term' |
| 19:42 |
|
chris |
i wonder if we could have different sets of defaults |
| 19:42 |
|
kados |
and then you could go: |
| 19:43 |
|
chris |
that you can choose at install? |
| 19:43 |
|
kados |
legend#s |
| 19:43 |
|
kados |
well |
| 19:43 |
|
kados |
in fact ... |
| 19:43 |
|
kados |
we are going to need to store everything in the db |
| 19:43 |
|
kados |
right now |
| 19:44 |
|
kados |
you basically put the @attr 1=X 2=X, etc. |
| 19:44 |
|
kados |
right in the html |
| 19:44 |
|
kados |
but eventually |
| 19:44 |
|
chris |
ahh right |
| 19:44 |
|
kados |
(in 3.0) |
| 19:44 |
|
kados |
we are going to want to have a tmpl var |
| 19:44 |
|
chris |
yeah |
| 19:44 |
|
kados |
once I'm done with this |
| 19:44 |
|
kados |
I'll propose a table structure for it |
| 19:44 |
|
kados |
I've already been working on some ideas |
| 19:44 |
|
chris |
sweet |
| 19:44 |
|
kados |
the idea is |
| 19:45 |
|
kados |
once you get your indexes built |
| 19:45 |
|
kados |
you can basically don any query |
| 19:45 |
|
kados |
anyway ... back to coding :-) |
| 19:45 |
|
kados |
I've got a demo tomorrow :-) |
| 19:45 |
|
chris |
good luck :) |
| 20:16 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 20:17 |
|
kados |
it works :-) |
| 20:17 |
|
kados |
now you can just do a search on all the spanish books |
| 20:17 |
|
kados |
or french |
| 20:17 |
|
kados |
etc. |
| 20:22 |
|
chris |
sweet |
| 23:04 |
|
kados |
chris: got a sec? |
| 23:04 |
|
kados |
I go: |
| 23:04 |
|
kados |
$zoom_query_obj = new ZOOM::Query::CQL2RPN($query,$zconn); |
| 23:04 |
|
kados |
use Data::Dumper; |
| 23:04 |
|
kados |
warn "CQL STUFF:"; |
| 23:04 |
|
kados |
warn Dumper($zoom_query_obj); |
| 23:04 |
|
kados |
and I get: |
| 23:04 |
|
kados |
$VAR1 = bless( { |
| 23:04 |
|
kados |
'_query' => bless( do{\(my $o = 150526776)}, 'ZOOM_query' ) |
| 23:04 |
|
kados |
}, 'ZOOM::Query::CQL2RPN' ); |
| 23:04 |
|
chris |
wk |
| 23:04 |
|
chris |
-w |
| 23:05 |
|
kados |
does that look like cacheing or something? |
| 23:05 |
|
kados |
(I'd like to be able to derive the RPN from the CQL |
| 23:05 |
|
chris |
hmm i cant tell |
| 23:06 |
|
kados |
so I can pass on the RPN to the results page for reordering, etc.) |
| 23:06 |
|
chris |
right |
| 23:06 |
|
kados |
btw ... with advanced search the reordering works really nicely |
| 23:06 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 23:07 |
|
kados |
hmmm |
| 23:07 |
|
chris |
is $o always the same |
| 23:08 |
|
chris |
if you do that twice |
| 23:08 |
|
chris |
is the $o= the same? |
| 23:08 |
|
kados |
no |
| 23:08 |
|
kados |
it changes every time |
| 23:08 |
|
kados |
but ti's not incremental |
| 23:08 |
|
chris |
twice in the same script i mean |
| 23:08 |
|
kados |
ahh ... lemme check |
| 23:09 |
|
chris |
it looks like a timestamp to me |
| 23:09 |
|
kados |
in that case it's the same |
| 23:09 |
|
chris |
ok |
| 23:09 |
|
chris |
what if you go sleep 5 between the calls |
| 23:09 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 23:09 |
|
kados |
ok |
| 23:09 |
|
chris |
does it increase by 5? |
| 23:10 |
|
kados |
still identical |
| 23:10 |
|
chris |
right |
| 23:10 |
|
chris |
so it looks like it caches |
| 23:10 |
|
kados |
but where ... |
| 23:10 |
|
chris |
but only while the script is running |
| 23:10 |
|
kados |
in yaz? |
| 23:10 |
|
kados |
or in zebra? |
| 23:10 |
|
chris |
which makes sense |
| 23:10 |
|
chris |
not zebra |
| 23:11 |
|
kados |
so it transforms the CQL to RPN |
| 23:11 |
|
kados |
and stores it somewhere |
| 23:11 |
|
kados |
how do I get it out? |
| 23:11 |
|
chris |
good question |
| 23:11 |
|
chris |
can you make zebra give it to you? |
| 23:12 |
|
kados |
dunno |
| 23:12 |
|
kados |
I'm reading the ZOOM docs |
| 23:12 |
|
kados |
don't see anything on it |
| 23:13 |
|
chris |
zebra does the transform right? using the pqf.properties file? |
| 23:15 |
|
chris |
it outputs it into the log |
| 23:15 |
|
kados |
yea |
| 23:15 |
|
kados |
the log? |
| 23:15 |
|
chris |
so i wonder if there is some way to query for it |
| 23:15 |
|
kados |
I'm not sure it's zebra doing the transform |
| 23:15 |
|
chris |
ie if you watch the output of the zebrasvr you can see the rpn |
| 23:16 |
|
kados |
right |
| 23:16 |
|
chris |
i think it must be |
| 23:16 |
|
chris |
because net::z3950 doesnt know about the pqf.properties |
| 23:16 |
|
kados |
well ... actually ... :-) |
| 23:16 |
|
kados |
you have to tell it about pqf if you use the CQL2RPN |
| 23:17 |
|
chris |
ahh |
| 23:17 |
|
chris |
so in that case it must convert it |
| 23:17 |
|
chris |
or the c libraries do |
| 23:17 |
|
chris |
im guessing the c it wraps does |
| 23:17 |
|
kados |
ZOOM::Query::CQL2RPN |
| 23:17 |
|
kados |
Implements CQL by compiling it on the client-side into a Z39.50 Type-1 (RPN) query, and sending that. |
| 23:18 |
|
chris |
cool so if its in the perl thats easy |
| 23:18 |
|
chris |
but i suspect its in the c |
| 23:18 |
|
kados |
yea, prolly |
| 23:18 |
|
kados |
not a big deal |
| 23:18 |
|
kados |
it only affects the CQL |
| 23:18 |
|
kados |
I can concern myself with that later |
| 23:18 |
|
chris |
right |
| 23:18 |
|
kados |
bigger fish to fry ... |
| 23:18 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 23:19 |
|
kados |
or in my case, bigger tofu to fry :-) |
| 23:22 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 23:29 |
|
kados |
chris: is there a way to send an array of variables through in CGI? |
| 23:29 |
|
kados |
can I have more than one value with the same name? |
| 23:29 |
|
kados |
and pick it up as an array? |
| 23:29 |
|
chris |
yes |
| 23:29 |
|
chris |
easy peasy |
| 23:30 |
|
chris |
my @array=$input->param('variablename'); |
| 23:30 |
|
kados |
ahh, sweet |
| 23:30 |
|
kados |
thx |
| 23:30 |
|
chris |
wanna send someone free koha cds? |
| 23:30 |
|
chris |
:-) |
| 23:31 |
|
chris |
thats what the foundation could do :) |
| 23:31 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 23:31 |
|
kados |
next week even :-) |
| 23:31 |
|
chris |
id offer to send john one, but itd cost a lot from nz :-) |
| 23:31 |
|
kados |
heh |
| 23:31 |
|
kados |
I need to catch up on list email |
| 23:32 |
|
kados |
hopefully after tomorrow's demo I'll have a few hours |
| 23:32 |
|
chris |
:-) |
| 23:32 |
|
chris |
someone else might offer |
| 02:01 |
|
Comete |
bonjour à tous ! |
| 02:01 |
|
Comete |
hi all |
| 02:01 |
|
paul |
hello Comete & osmoze |
| 02:01 |
|
Comete |
hi paul and osmoze |
| 02:01 |
|
osmoze |
hello too :) |
| 02:01 |
|
Comete |
paul: a little bug http://o5.bureau.paulpoulain.c[…]etail.pl?bib=2932 |
| 02:02 |
|
Comete |
paul: the display is bad here |
| 02:08 |
|
Comete |
hi pierrick |
| 02:08 |
|
pierrick |
hi Comete |
| 02:21 |
|
chris |
evening all |
| 02:21 |
|
chris |
or morning :-) |
| 02:23 |
|
chris |
what time is your demo? |
| 02:23 |
|
paul |
hello kados & chris |
| 02:23 |
|
chris |
will you have a chance to sleep before it? |
| 02:24 |
|
chris |
heya paul |
| 02:25 |
|
kados |
it's at 9:00am |
| 02:25 |
|
kados |
it's 3:30 right now |
| 02:25 |
|
kados |
so I'll probably get a few hours of sleep |
| 02:25 |
|
kados |
I'm cleaning up the results set currently |
| 02:25 |
|
kados |
and reindexing |
| 02:25 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 02:25 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 02:27 |
|
ToinS |
hi all |
| 02:27 |
|
chris |
hi toins |
| 02:29 |
|
ToinS |
hi chris |
| 02:32 |
|
pierrick |
hi all :-) |
| 02:33 |
|
chris |
hi pierrick, thanks for fixing that sql |
| 02:33 |
|
pierrick |
fixing? I only reformatted things :-) Do you like the presentation? |
| 02:33 |
|
chris |
yes, much easier to read |
| 02:34 |
|
paul |
although I think listing each field on a single line will make too long queries |
| 02:34 |
|
paul |
(hi pierrick) |
| 02:34 |
|
chris |
i was converting things to capitalised SQL words as I was going yesterday |
| 02:34 |
|
chris |
but then it got towards the end of the day |
| 02:34 |
|
chris |
and i just started committing madly :-) |
| 02:35 |
|
pierrick |
paul, many lines is less important than readibility IMO |
| 02:35 |
|
pierrick |
paul, think of the result of a "grep" for example |
| 02:35 |
|
paul |
yes, but I think that 15 lines just for a SQL query is not the best for readability |
| 02:36 |
|
pierrick |
paul, how long should a line in a SQL query be? |
| 02:37 |
|
kados |
has everyone seen Koha 2.3 (or what will be 2.3 very soon): http://zoomopac.liblime.com/ |
| 02:37 |
|
kados |
(the search anyway) |
| 02:37 |
|
paul |
kados: yes, I saw. quite impressive... |
| 02:38 |
|
paul |
I don't understand every term in "power search". So i'm not a power user ;-) |
| 02:38 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 02:38 |
|
kados |
there is a new 'resort by' feature |
| 02:38 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 02:38 |
|
kados |
it works for the non-simple searches only right now |
| 02:38 |
|
kados |
simple search will work soon ... |
| 02:39 |
|
pierrick |
kados, I like the design of zoomopac :-) |
| 02:40 |
|
kados |
and I think if you put multiple terms in a non-simple search box, you need to enclose them in quotes still |
| 02:40 |
|
chris |
i like the speed :-) |
| 02:40 |
|
kados |
though obviously that will be fixed |
| 02:40 |
|
kados |
I like the speed and the nice search feature |
| 02:40 |
|
kados |
for istance, you can find all the french books in NPL's catalog |
| 02:40 |
|
kados |
something previously impossible |
| 02:41 |
|
kados |
hmmm |
| 02:42 |
|
chris |
no books on koha |
| 02:42 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 03:24 |
|
Icez |
. |
| 03:28 |
|
Icerz |
hellol |
| 03:28 |
|
chris |
hi |
| 03:28 |
|
dewey |
hola, chris |
| 03:29 |
|
Icerz |
anyone here from new zealand |
| 03:29 |
|
chris |
i am |
| 03:29 |
|
Icez |
. |
| 03:29 |
|
Icerz |
. |
| 03:31 |
|
paul |
... /me suspect icexxx to be a bot... |
| 03:32 |
|
Icez |
really |
| 03:32 |
|
Icez |
nah i'm normal just like you |
| 03:32 |
|
paul |
so what means winamp... ? |
| 03:33 |
|
paul |
& sorry if you are not a bot, because your 1st message was quite strange ;-) |
| 03:33 |
|
Icez |
it's a script |
| 03:34 |
|
chris |
so what brings you to #koha? |
| 03:37 |
|
Icez |
nm aye |
| 03:37 |
|
Icez |
just looking on the net for irc servers (NZ) |
| 03:37 |
|
chris |
ahh well this is for the discussion of the koha project |
| 03:37 |
|
chris |
www.koha.org |
| 03:37 |
|
chris |
so wont be interesting unless you are interested in that |
| 03:39 |
|
Icez |
you delevope software? |
| 03:39 |
|
chris |
yes |
| 03:39 |
|
chris |
for use in libraries |
| 03:40 |
|
Icez |
cool |
| 03:49 |
|
chris |
paul: http://www.bigballofwax.co.nz/[…]6/06/08#cvs-stats |
| 03:50 |
|
paul |
mine are better : http://bureau.paulpoulain.com/cvslog/ |
| 03:50 |
|
paul |
;-) |
| 03:50 |
|
chris |
that using statcvs ? |
| 03:51 |
|
paul |
nope, it uses cvschangelogbuilder |
| 03:51 |
|
paul |
(link at end of page) |
| 03:51 |
|
paul |
in fact, they are quite differents things. |
| 03:51 |
|
chris |
ahh |
| 03:52 |
|
paul |
mine show cvs history while your show cvs weekly activity |
| 03:52 |
|
chris |
yep, all right if i link to yours from my blog? |
| 03:52 |
|
paul |
of course. |
| 03:53 |
|
paul |
who commits as sushi ? |
| 03:53 |
|
chris |
mason, from katipo |
| 03:56 |
|
chris |
icez: would you be able to turn that part of your script off please? |
| 03:56 |
|
chris |
pierrick, you are plg on savannah? |
| 03:57 |
|
pierrick |
I am |
| 03:57 |
|
pierrick |
Pierrick Le Gall |
| 03:59 |
|
chris |
of course, silly me :) |
| 04:28 |
|
tumer |
morning all |
| 04:28 |
|
chris |
hi tumer |
| 04:28 |
|
paul |
hi tumer |
| 04:29 |
|
tumer |
hi all |
| 04:30 |
|
tumer |
in october i have 80 university library directors coming for a meeting. All very interested in koha |
| 04:31 |
|
paul |
mmm... sounds very interesting. |
| 04:31 |
|
chris |
wow |
| 04:31 |
|
tumer |
i have to get this zoom perfercted and guess what kados is now 'our man' for zoom |
| 04:31 |
|
chris |
thats a lot of directors |
| 04:31 |
|
paul |
if you need someone to come to speak, don't hesitate to ask, i'm sure someone will volunteer to come to cyprus ;-) |
| 04:31 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 04:32 |
|
tumer |
you can come to cyprus anytime no need to speak |
| 04:33 |
|
tumer |
has anybody noticed a bug with addbiblio.tmpl |
| 04:33 |
|
paul |
what kind of bug ? |
| 04:33 |
|
tumer |
you cannot repaeat a subfield more than once |
| 04:34 |
|
tumer |
or is it a windows problem? |
| 04:35 |
|
chris |
ahh i think i remember kados talking about that |
| 04:35 |
|
chris |
i think he may have fixed it somewhere, maybe it was in head? |
| 04:36 |
|
tumer |
i think paul also made some changes recently but dont know which version now (having 3!) |
| 04:37 |
|
chris |
ill take a quick look |
| 04:37 |
|
tumer |
so yours ok than paul? |
| 04:38 |
|
chris |
http://cvs.savannah.nongnu.org[…]oot=koha&view=log |
| 04:39 |
|
tumer |
thanks chris |
| 04:56 |
|
tumer |
paul: yours seems to have the same problem. Once duplicated it can not be moved or repeated again |
| 05:14 |
|
Comete |
paul: did you see the url i gave you this morning ? |
| 10:05 |
|
paul |
kados around ? |
| 11:31 |
|
paul |
bye world. |
