| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 16:09 |
|
kados |
thd: check for a private msg |
| 17:15 |
|
chris |
gotta love ppl who quote jello biafra as their sig |
| 17:15 |
|
chris |
so i dont think i got this fuzzy thing right |
| 17:15 |
|
kados |
huh |
| 17:16 |
|
chris |
sorry, mike taylor's sig |
| 17:16 |
|
chris |
for the fuzzy search im still getting |
| 17:16 |
|
kados |
right :) |
| 17:16 |
|
chris |
Search OK 2 1 1+0 RPN: @attrset Bib-1 @attr 5=100 @attr 6=1 @attr 3=3 @attr 4=2 @attr 2=3 @attr 1=4 distant |
| 17:16 |
|
chris |
which should be 5=103 |
| 17:16 |
|
chris |
i think |
| 17:19 |
|
russ |
hi there |
| 17:20 |
|
kados |
woot |
| 17:20 |
|
kados |
hi russ |
| 17:20 |
|
kados |
how many do we have? |
| 17:20 |
|
russ |
well these are just the ones from the website |
| 17:20 |
|
kados |
right |
| 17:20 |
|
russ |
so about 10 so far |
| 17:20 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 17:20 |
|
russ |
i know that paul and ineo are doing a direct mail campaign |
| 17:20 |
|
kados |
if I get around to it I'll post a note to liblimes site |
| 17:21 |
|
russ |
and i expect most of the registrations to come from that |
| 17:21 |
|
kados |
and we're going to send some emails out too |
| 17:21 |
|
russ |
most of the ones from the website have been from africa |
| 17:21 |
|
kados |
tina's almost done with a graphic |
| 17:21 |
|
kados |
interesting |
| 17:21 |
|
kados |
we've just been so swamped here this month |
| 17:21 |
|
kados |
we've got 5 migrations happening all at the same time :-) |
| 17:22 |
|
kados |
all of which go live before the end of April |
| 17:22 |
|
russ |
wow! |
| 17:23 |
|
kados |
so I barely exist :-) |
| 17:30 |
|
chris |
the other question |
| 17:30 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 17:30 |
|
chris |
do we want to do truncation by default |
| 17:31 |
|
kados |
remind me what that does again? |
| 17:31 |
|
chris |
or do we want the user to type something* |
| 17:31 |
|
chris |
ok |
| 17:31 |
|
chris |
current koha |
| 17:31 |
|
chris |
if i search map |
| 17:31 |
|
kados |
got it |
| 17:31 |
|
chris |
ill find map, maps, mapping |
| 17:31 |
|
kados |
right |
| 17:31 |
|
chris |
with zebra, ill just find map |
| 17:31 |
|
kados |
right |
| 17:31 |
|
chris |
if i go map* tho |
| 17:31 |
|
kados |
it's a tough one |
| 17:32 |
|
kados |
what we need |
| 17:32 |
|
kados |
is to make it an option |
| 17:32 |
|
kados |
like a checkbox or something |
| 17:32 |
|
chris |
yeah |
| 17:32 |
|
kados |
so that NPL can decide what they want by default |
| 17:32 |
|
kados |
during our next search meeting |
| 17:32 |
|
kados |
their feedback was really helpful |
| 17:32 |
|
kados |
since they use the system every day |
| 17:32 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 17:32 |
|
kados |
they kinda know what to expect intuitively |
| 17:33 |
|
kados |
I'd say the same goes for fuzzy searching |
| 17:33 |
|
kados |
if it could be a checkbox they coudl compare with and without |
| 17:33 |
|
kados |
to see which does a better job |
| 17:33 |
|
kados |
(is fuzzy another one of the ranking algorythms?) |
| 17:34 |
|
chris |
dont think so |
| 17:34 |
|
chris |
nope its not |
| 17:34 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 17:35 |
|
kados |
yea, so a checkbox might be nice |
| 17:35 |
|
kados |
also, it'd be sweet if we could have a selection box that included rank1, rank2, rank3 |
| 17:35 |
|
kados |
so we could compare how they differ |
| 17:35 |
|
chris |
im not sure you can change that on the fly? |
| 17:35 |
|
kados |
and NPL could decide which to go with |
| 17:35 |
|
kados |
no? |
| 17:36 |
|
kados |
ahh , does it require mapping in the pqf file? |
| 17:36 |
|
chris |
i have no idea how you change the relevance ranking |
| 17:36 |
|
kados |
ahh ... there's a bit about it in the NEWS file |
| 17:36 |
|
chris |
you can just tell it to do it |
| 17:36 |
|
kados |
http://indexdata.dk/zebra/NEWS |
| 17:37 |
|
kados |
there are a bunch of ranking algorithms in zebra |
| 17:37 |
|
chris |
ill be happy if i can get this fuzzy to work |
| 17:37 |
|
chris |
for a start |
| 17:37 |
|
kados |
yea ... shelve the ranking for now |
| 17:37 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 17:38 |
|
chris |
you might want to have a play with the latest pqf.properties and searchmarc.pm |
| 17:38 |
|
chris |
its doing relevance ranking now |
| 17:38 |
|
kados |
k ... will do |
| 17:38 |
|
chris |
i dont think it was before |
| 17:38 |
|
kados |
I thought it already was |
| 17:38 |
|
chris |
nope |
| 17:38 |
|
kados |
interesting |
| 17:38 |
|
chris |
im sure it is now tho |
| 17:38 |
|
chris |
@attr 2=102 |
| 17:38 |
|
kados |
so what was it doing before? |
| 17:38 |
|
chris |
is being set |
| 17:38 |
|
kados |
ie, what is kohatest.liblime.com 's relevance ranking? |
| 17:39 |
|
chris |
it could have been doing it default |
| 17:40 |
|
chris |
but by adding the /relevant |
| 17:40 |
|
chris |
its now setting @attr 2=102 |
| 17:40 |
|
chris |
for the search |
| 17:40 |
|
chris |
you can try it with or without the /relevant .. and see if the order changes |
| 17:41 |
|
kados |
have you changed collection.abs lately? |
| 17:41 |
|
chris |
it does for me |
| 17:41 |
|
chris |
lemme check |
| 17:41 |
|
kados |
(before I reindex) |
| 17:42 |
|
kados |
cuz I need to merge those changes into record.abs if so |
| 17:42 |
|
chris |
nope |
| 17:42 |
|
chris |
only that melm 942$c Material-type,Material-type:w |
| 17:42 |
|
chris |
which i think you had already? |
| 17:42 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 17:42 |
|
kados |
k, I'm reindexing |
| 17:42 |
|
chris |
you shouldnt need to |
| 17:43 |
|
kados |
well, I already scraped the db |
| 17:43 |
|
kados |
it only takes about 5 minutes now |
| 17:43 |
|
chris |
ahh then you will :-) |
| 17:43 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 17:43 |
|
chris |
the /relevant does a make a different |
| 17:43 |
|
kados |
zebraidx is crazy fast |
| 17:43 |
|
chris |
difference even |
| 17:43 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 17:43 |
|
kados |
maybe it'll do everything NPL wants :-) |
| 17:43 |
|
kados |
that would rock :-) |
| 17:44 |
|
kados |
I'm gonna grab a drink while this index runs |
| 17:44 |
|
kados |
bbiab |
| 18:05 |
|
chris |
so if im reading this right |
| 18:05 |
|
chris |
$p->option(record => content_of("/tmp/record.xml")); |
| 18:06 |
|
chris |
we do need to pass the whole record |
| 18:14 |
|
kados |
yea |
| 18:14 |
|
kados |
I suspected that |
| 18:23 |
|
chris |
hey, what the??? |
| 18:25 |
|
kados |
did it go and delete everything? :-) |
| 18:25 |
|
chris |
naw nothing |
| 18:25 |
|
chris |
still gettting |
| 18:25 |
|
chris |
an error, ill figure it out, but now i gotta go do something else, ill be back looking into it in a bit |
| 18:29 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 18:29 |
|
kados |
thd: check pmesg |
| 18:33 |
|
kados |
so when you get back, do I need to get rid of the 'relevance' ranking option to use the new relevance rank? |
| 18:33 |
|
kados |
http://kohatest.liblime.com/cg[…]ha/opac-search.pl |
| 18:33 |
|
kados |
search on 'the civil war' in interesting |
| 18:33 |
|
kados |
s/in/is/ |
| 18:34 |
|
kados |
definitely different ranking than before |
| 18:34 |
|
chris |
no |
| 18:34 |
|
kados |
but still, the first record isn't 'the civil war' like NPL expects |
| 18:34 |
|
chris |
relevance doesnt do anything |
| 18:34 |
|
chris |
ie, relevance passes nothing through |
| 18:34 |
|
kados |
k |
| 18:35 |
|
chris |
so if you choose relevance, it wont sort by anything else |
| 18:35 |
|
chris |
which means that now we have the /relevant it will come back relevance ranked |
| 18:35 |
|
kados |
search on 'Tango' doesn't pull up that record first |
| 18:35 |
|
chris |
title or keyword? |
| 18:35 |
|
kados |
title |
| 18:36 |
|
kados |
at least it's on the first page :-) |
| 18:36 |
|
chris |
http://kohatest.liblime.com/cg[…]tail.pl?bib=53677 |
| 18:36 |
|
chris |
that has tango twice |
| 18:36 |
|
chris |
in title |
| 18:36 |
|
chris |
once in 246 and once in 245 |
| 18:36 |
|
chris |
which makes it more relevant the one that just has tango once |
| 18:37 |
|
chris |
that appears to be how it works |
| 18:37 |
|
kados |
yea |
| 18:37 |
|
kados |
that definitely makes sense |
| 18:37 |
|
kados |
but probably as the second relevance consideration |
| 18:37 |
|
chris |
you could try seeing if you could change the relevance |
| 18:37 |
|
kados |
with proximity being first |
| 18:38 |
|
kados |
huh, I wonder if I add the word tango like 10 times to the record |
| 18:38 |
|
kados |
if it would come up first :-) |
| 18:39 |
|
chris |
i bet it would, if you put it in the 246 field :) |
| 18:39 |
|
owen |
Great, now we're search-engine spamming our MARC records! |
| 18:39 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 18:40 |
|
kados |
mainly just testing to see how the ranking algo works :-) |
| 18:42 |
|
kados |
now interestingly, that same search on NPL's current catalog |
| 18:42 |
|
kados |
only has 18 results |
| 18:42 |
|
kados |
I wonder why gloria used it as an example |
| 18:42 |
|
chris |
i bet its searching less fields on the current koha |
| 18:43 |
|
chris |
title how we have it set up,searches a lot more with zebra |
| 18:46 |
|
kados |
well , there's some history here :-) |
| 18:46 |
|
kados |
gloria's known for complaining that a search returns like 100 pages of results |
| 18:46 |
|
kados |
so i would have expected all of her examples to do that on the old koha |
| 18:46 |
|
chris |
ahh |
| 18:48 |
|
kados |
bbiab, gonna head to the gym |
| 19:03 |
|
chris |
holy crap it worked |
| 19:07 |
|
rach |
wow joshua is actually not on irc :-) |
| 19:07 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 21:00 |
|
kados |
chris: got it working? |
| 21:00 |
|
kados |
sorry, took a long dinner :-) |
| 21:00 |
|
chris |
no worries |
| 21:00 |
|
chris |
sure did |
| 21:00 |
|
kados |
nice |
| 21:00 |
|
chris |
if you update to the latest Biblio.pm and Search.pm |
| 21:00 |
|
kados |
k |
| 21:00 |
|
chris |
then try a delete |
| 21:01 |
|
chris |
if it throws a server error, edit the url and change the bibid= to biblionumber= |
| 21:01 |
|
kados |
heh |
| 21:01 |
|
chris |
and then it oughta delete |
| 21:01 |
|
kados |
k, I'll give it a shot |
| 21:01 |
|
chris |
(template issue to fix) |
| 21:01 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 21:01 |
|
kados |
is it a template issue for head or for rel_2_2? |
| 21:02 |
|
kados |
hmmm |
| 21:02 |
|
kados |
well I'm not actually running the plugin |
| 21:02 |
|
kados |
so none of the templates are really working |
| 21:03 |
|
kados |
grrr |
| 21:04 |
|
chris |
rel_2_2 |
| 21:04 |
|
chris |
i cant see that the delete will have actually worked in rel_2_2 anyway |
| 21:04 |
|
chris |
addbiblio.pl expects biblionumber, it gets bibid |
| 21:06 |
|
kados |
so you don't expect it will work for the plugin? |
| 21:06 |
|
chris |
yeah it shold if you edit that url |
| 21:06 |
|
kados |
k |
| 21:06 |
|
chris |
im running it in the plugin |
| 21:06 |
|
kados |
I'm gonna get the plugin going real quick |
| 21:07 |
|
chris |
ack |
| 21:07 |
|
chris |
see irma's email? |
| 21:07 |
|
chris |
want me to respond to that? |
| 21:07 |
|
kados |
yea |
| 21:07 |
|
chris |
will do |
| 21:16 |
|
chris |
email away |
| 21:20 |
|
kados |
thx |
| 21:21 |
|
chris |
it should work for head too (the delete) i havent tried it though |
| 21:25 |
|
kados |
well, head is pretty broken at the moment |
| 21:25 |
|
chris |
yeah |
| 21:28 |
|
kados |
chris: did you copy over head versions of the tempaltes too or just the scripts for the plugin? |
| 21:29 |
|
kados |
(and why is Amazon.pm required? was it throwing an error with the rel_2_2 version/) |
| 21:32 |
|
chris |
i didnt touch templates |
| 21:32 |
|
chris |
or scripts |
| 21:32 |
|
chris |
the only thing i changed was Search.pm and Biblio.pm |
| 21:33 |
|
chris |
so it should be the same instructions as setting up the plugin was before |
| 21:34 |
|
chris |
i just added a get_xml_record to Search.pm |
| 21:34 |
|
chris |
that hands back an xml rep of the data, given a biblionumber |
| 21:35 |
|
chris |
which we can then use in Biblio.pm to get a record to delete |
| 21:35 |
|
chris |
so get_record you get a MARC::Record get_xml_record, you get the xml that zebra retursn |
| 21:36 |
|
kados |
ahh ... cool |
| 21:36 |
|
kados |
and that is how you're doing deletions? |
| 21:36 |
|
kados |
(I'm writing a script to handle the plugin) |
| 21:36 |
|
kados |
(hence my question about Amazon, template, etc.) |
| 21:38 |
|
chris |
ahh right |
| 21:39 |
|
chris |
so far i havent changed any templates |
| 21:39 |
|
chris |
not in recent memory anyway :-) |
| 21:39 |
|
chris |
the search ones will need to be changed |
| 21:40 |
|
chris |
as will the marcdetail.pl as it passes the wrong variable to addbiblio.pl on delete |
| 21:41 |
|
chris |
detail.tmpl too |
| 21:41 |
|
chris |
so both moredetail.tmpl and detail.tmpl in the default templates |
| 21:42 |
|
chris |
to work with the addbiblio.pl thats in head (ie that uses zebra) |
| 21:42 |
|
kados |
maybe we need a plugin systempref :-) |
| 21:47 |
|
kados |
chris: could you double-check this. I think these are the only files that need to be copied over: |
| 21:48 |
|
kados |
MODULES: |
| 21:48 |
|
kados |
Biblio.pm, Context.pm, SearchMarc.pm, Amazon.pm, Review.pm, Search.pm |
| 21:48 |
|
kados |
INTRANET: |
| 21:48 |
|
kados |
addbiblio.pl, additem.pl, detail.pl, MARCdetail.pl, ISBNdetail.pl |
| 21:48 |
|
kados |
OPAC: |
| 21:48 |
|
kados |
opac-detail.pl, opac-MARCdetail.pl, opac-ISBDdetail.pl |
| 21:48 |
|
chris |
looks right |
| 21:48 |
|
kados |
then modify addbiblio and additem scripts to grab the right template |
| 21:48 |
|
kados |
(or maybe just create a symlink from cataloguing to acqui.simple, whaday think?) |
| 21:49 |
|
chris |
that might work |
| 21:49 |
|
chris |
if symlinks are allowed in the apache conf |
| 21:49 |
|
kados |
the edit moredetail and detail to use the right variable |
| 21:49 |
|
kados |
well, if they're doing a symlinked koha to begin with I assume they are |
| 21:51 |
|
chris |
damnit |
| 21:51 |
|
chris |
im sure this was working just before |
| 21:54 |
|
chris |
2 secs |
| 21:55 |
|
chris |
ah ha |
| 21:56 |
|
chris |
the latest Biblio.pm (just committed) is the one to use |
| 22:04 |
|
slef |
russ: hello? |
| 22:04 |
|
russ |
hi slef |
| 22:04 |
|
slef |
I've edited the screen.css, but the copy on the site hasn't changed. Do I need to release it somehow? |
| 22:04 |
|
russ |
two secs let me look |
| 22:06 |
|
russ |
yep ok what you need to do is check the box next to the file name |
| 22:06 |
|
russ |
and then hit the notify button |
| 22:06 |
|
russ |
and it will send a request for me |
| 22:06 |
|
slef |
I wondered if that was it. Does the tutorial call it triggering? |
| 22:07 |
|
russ |
yes |
| 22:07 |
|
slef |
Why different jargon? |
| 22:07 |
|
russ |
no idea |
| 22:07 |
|
russ |
it predates my time with katipo and kea |
| 22:07 |
|
slef |
Cool. Thought I was being stupid again. |
| 22:07 |
|
chris |
the live site lives on a different machine, triggering scp's it to that machine |
| 22:07 |
|
russ |
but we could have used the word publish or update |
| 22:07 |
|
chris |
only some users can trigger, others can only notify |
| 22:08 |
|
russ |
there you go |
| 22:08 |
|
kados |
chris: my plugin script seems to have worked like a charm |
| 22:08 |
|
kados |
chris: I'm reindexing now |
| 22:08 |
|
slef |
How can I track my file trigger requests? |
| 22:08 |
|
chris |
so you might see notify, i might see trigger (you can set up privileges on a dir by dir basis) |
| 22:08 |
|
kados |
chris: sometime today or tomorrow we should discuss directory locations for the plugin |
| 22:08 |
|
chris |
slef, see your email address? |
| 22:09 |
|
chris |
click on that |
| 22:09 |
|
kados |
chris: I'm assuming an actual production system would have the zebradb on a separate partition |
| 22:09 |
|
slef |
no, I don't see my email address at the moment. |
| 22:09 |
|
kados |
bbiab |
| 22:09 |
|
chris |
ahh you might not have permissions to do that too |
| 22:09 |
|
chris |
i see modified by |
| 22:09 |
|
chris |
and ur email under that |
| 22:10 |
|
slef |
ah, by the file? got it |
| 22:10 |
|
russ |
triggered now |
| 22:10 |
|
chris |
that tells you the history of the file |
| 22:11 |
|
slef |
it's a bit "mystery meat navigation" that |
| 22:11 |
|
chris |
so you can see your trigger request, and then that russel triggered |
| 22:11 |
|
chris |
sure is, we are in the process of a UI overhaul |
| 22:11 |
|
russ |
slef : yep it sure is |
| 22:11 |
|
slef |
ok... can I see a list of my/all recent changes? |
| 22:12 |
|
russ |
two secs |
| 22:12 |
|
russ |
drop down menu top right |
| 22:12 |
|
russ |
http://koha2.edit.katipo.co.nz/kaka/findFiles.cgi |
| 22:12 |
|
russ |
ah it doesnt do by user though |
| 22:13 |
|
slef |
thanks - that drop-down menu doesn't work for me ;-) |
| 22:13 |
|
russ |
interesting |
| 22:13 |
|
slef |
koha2.edit.katipo.co.nz doesn't have script execute permission, which I guess that uses as there's no submit button |
| 22:14 |
|
slef |
boogie! http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-valid[…]ss&usermedium=all |
| 22:14 |
|
slef |
logbot: have a botsnack |
| 22:15 |
|
russ |
woo - nice work slef |
| 22:15 |
|
russ |
thanks for updating the css |
| 22:15 |
|
slef |
hrm, 1 or 2 more nigglies |
| 22:15 |
|
slef |
when you fix the UI, please put something useful in the <title> |
| 22:16 |
|
slef |
navigating back multiple pages is a bit hit-and-miss atm |
| 22:17 |
|
russ |
huh? |
| 22:17 |
|
russ |
why is that |
| 22:17 |
|
russ |
? |
| 22:17 |
|
slef |
they are all titled Kea: koha2 |
| 22:18 |
|
slef |
no easy way to pick between them in the history |
| 22:18 |
|
russ |
ah right |
| 22:19 |
|
russ |
cool thanks for the feedback |
| 22:20 |
|
slef |
is it OK if I put a background-color on the header? AIUI, image users should just get the image instead |
| 22:21 |
|
russ |
good idea |
| 22:25 |
|
slef |
strangxajxo! |
| 22:29 |
|
slef |
ok, I can't see why that doesn't work... it's not taking the colour |
| 22:31 |
|
slef |
ho hum, now's not the time |
| 22:34 |
|
kados |
chris: still around? |
| 22:34 |
|
kados |
chris: indexing is done |
| 22:34 |
|
kados |
chris: http://opactest2.liblime.com/ |
| 22:35 |
|
kados |
chris: for some reason I'm getting some errors, none of the searches are working |
| 22:35 |
|
kados |
[Tue Mar 28 19:36:22 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] no records found, referer: http://opactest2.liblime.com/ |
| 22:35 |
|
kados |
[Tue Mar 28 19:36:45 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] QUERY : dc.title all /relevant "john" at /home/koha/plugin/koha/intranet/modules/C4/SearchMarc.pm line 250., referer: http://opactest2.liblime.com/c[…]ha/opac-search.pl |
| 22:36 |
|
kados |
19:38:25-28/03 zebrasrv(3) [request] Search OK 0 1 1+0 RPN: @attrset Bib-1 @attr 5=100 @attr 6=1 @attr 3=3 @attr 1=4 @attr 4=2 @attr 2=102 the |
| 22:36 |
|
kados |
19:38:25-28/03 zebrasrv(3) [log] term="the" nn=0 type=rank,w=34,u=4 count=0 |
| 22:36 |
|
kados |
19:38:25-28/03 zebrasrv(3) [log] user/system: 0/0 |
| 22:36 |
|
kados |
19:38:25-28/03 zebrasrv(3) [request] Sort OK - (1)->1 |
| 22:37 |
|
kados |
so oddly, KOha's reporting that sort failed, but looks like zebra things it worked |
| 22:37 |
|
kados |
am I forgetting to change something in opac-search.tmpl or something? |
| 22:39 |
|
chris |
hmm dont think so |
| 22:39 |
|
chris |
it shouldnt be sorting unless you told it to sort by title or something tho? |
| 22:39 |
|
chris |
ahh |
| 22:40 |
|
chris |
you might need to edit the opac-search.tmpl and put in the <option value="">Relevance</option> bit |
| 22:40 |
|
chris |
but that shouldnt stop results being found |
| 22:40 |
|
kados |
wft, can't find anything in yaz-client either |
| 22:41 |
|
kados |
something strange going on here ... I indexed these records, ran commit operation |
| 22:41 |
|
kados |
hmmm |
| 22:41 |
|
kados |
index files are huge |
| 22:42 |
|
kados |
I'm stumped |
| 22:43 |
|
kados |
what the heck is going on here |
| 22:43 |
|
chris |
itd be nice to have a command like status |
| 22:43 |
|
chris |
that tells you how many records are in the collection etc |
| 22:43 |
|
chris |
but thats by the by |
| 22:44 |
|
kados |
yea |
| 22:44 |
|
kados |
Z> list_all |
| 22:44 |
|
kados |
Connected to : localhost:2100/kohaplugin |
| 22:45 |
|
kados |
I don't get it |
| 22:45 |
|
chris |
weird |
| 22:46 |
|
kados |
I ran: |
| 22:46 |
|
kados |
zebraidx init |
| 22:46 |
|
kados |
zebraidx create kohaplugin |
| 22:47 |
|
kados |
zebraidx -g iso2709 -d zebraplugin update records -n |
| 22:47 |
|
kados |
wait ... did a commit before that last one |
| 22:47 |
|
kados |
then another commit |
| 22:47 |
|
kados |
then zebrasrv localhost:2100 |
| 22:47 |
|
chris |
and it appears to have no records? |
| 22:47 |
|
chris |
can u try bulkmarcimporting in a couple? |
| 22:48 |
|
kados |
ahh ... I found it |
| 22:48 |
|
chris |
what was it? |
| 22:48 |
|
kados |
-d zebraplugin should be -d kohaplugin |
| 22:48 |
|
kados |
heh |
| 22:48 |
|
chris |
doh |
| 22:48 |
|
chris |
of course |
| 22:48 |
|
kados |
I wonder if I can just change my config file |
| 22:48 |
|
kados |
yea, I'll bulkmarcimport in a bit |
| 22:49 |
|
kados |
yep, that did it |
| 22:49 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 22:50 |
|
kados |
huh ... so maybe we don't even need to 'create' |
| 22:50 |
|
chris |
dunno |
| 22:50 |
|
chris |
i seem to remeber it not working if we didnt |
| 22:51 |
|
chris |
but then, its hard to know, since we were flailing around a bit :-) |
| 22:51 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 22:52 |
|
chris |
if we can verify this delete works, i think its just making some template changes (to do the boolean and fix the delete) plus some more fixes to SearchMarc.pm |
| 22:52 |
|
chris |
and we are good to go |
| 22:53 |
|
kados |
ok, I"ll give it a shot |
| 22:54 |
|
kados |
you deleting from MARCdetail? |
| 22:54 |
|
kados |
what did I need to change in the template again? |
| 22:54 |
|
kados |
I got distracted by the index problem |
| 22:56 |
|
chris |
just hit delete |
| 22:56 |
|
chris |
and ull get a server error probably |
| 22:56 |
|
chris |
(after clicking ok to the javascript prompt) |
| 22:56 |
|
chris |
and a url that looks like |
| 22:56 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 22:57 |
|
kados |
http://kohatest2.liblime.com/c[…]delete&bibid= |
| 22:57 |
|
kados |
no id unfortunately |
| 22:57 |
|
kados |
strange |
| 22:57 |
|
chris |
cgi-bin/koha/acqui.simple/addbiblio.pl?op=delete&bibid=33 |
| 22:57 |
|
chris |
ohh |
| 22:57 |
|
chris |
hmm interesting |
| 22:57 |
|
chris |
what about from the normal view? |
| 22:57 |
|
kados |
huh |
| 22:57 |
|
kados |
[Tue Mar 28 19:59:30 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] Can't locate C4/Log.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/koha/plugin/koha/intranet/modules /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.4 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /home/koha/plugin/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/acqui.simple/addbiblio.pl line 30., referer: http://kohatest2.liblime.com/c[…]tail.pl?bib=58057 |
| 22:57 |
|
kados |
is that a new module in head? |
| 22:57 |
|
chris |
must be |
| 22:58 |
|
kados |
I'll try copying it over |
| 22:58 |
|
chris |
better add that to the list |
| 22:58 |
|
chris |
on the MARCdetail.pl page? |
| 22:58 |
|
chris |
Biblionumber : 33 With Framework |
| 22:58 |
|
chris |
does it have somethign like that? |
| 22:58 |
|
chris |
oh and what templates are u using? |
| 22:59 |
|
kados |
rel_2_2 templates |
| 22:59 |
|
kados |
npl |
| 22:59 |
|
chris |
ah |
| 22:59 |
|
chris |
i havent tried |
| 22:59 |
|
chris |
them |
| 22:59 |
|
kados |
you're using default? |
| 22:59 |
|
chris |
you could try default |
| 22:59 |
|
kados |
damn it :-) |
| 22:59 |
|
chris |
we will want to fix the npl ones anyway |
| 23:00 |
|
chris |
anyway |
| 23:00 |
|
chris |
this url |
| 23:00 |
|
chris |
yoursite/cgi-bin/koha/acqui.simple/addbiblio.pl?op=delete&bilionumber=33 |
| 23:00 |
|
chris |
will delete that record |
| 23:00 |
|
kados |
k ... I'll try that |
| 23:01 |
|
kados |
hmm |
| 23:01 |
|
kados |
500 ing |
| 23:01 |
|
chris |
sorry my typo |
| 23:01 |
|
chris |
biblionumber |
| 23:01 |
|
kados |
[Tue Mar 28 20:03:50 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] \tHTML::Template::new('HTML::Template', 'filename', '/home/koha/plugin/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/default/...', 'die_on_bad_params', 0, 'global_vars', 1, 'path', 'ARRAY(0x8de2d64)', ...) called at /home/koha/plugin/koha/intranet/modules/C4/Output.pm line 77 |
| 23:01 |
|
chris |
not bilionumber :) |
| 23:01 |
|
kados |
ahh |
| 23:02 |
|
kados |
ahh ... need to edit addbiblio.pl |
| 23:02 |
|
kados |
and add that to the list |
| 23:02 |
|
chris |
bibid ? |
| 23:02 |
|
chris |
ohh the template path? |
| 23:03 |
|
kados |
ahh ... so that means my symlink didin't work |
| 23:04 |
|
kados |
# ls -l cataloguing |
| 23:04 |
|
kados |
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root jmf 43 Mar 28 18:57 cataloguing -> /home/koha/plugin/rel_2_2/koha/acqui.simple |
| 23:04 |
|
kados |
wonder why it's not working |
| 23:04 |
|
chris |
i think it is |
| 23:04 |
|
chris |
thats just for the script isnt it |
| 23:04 |
|
chris |
and its finding the script |
| 23:04 |
|
kados |
ha |
| 23:04 |
|
kados |
I'm a dumbass |
| 23:04 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 23:05 |
|
chris |
the delete should just do a redirect anyway, not display a template |
| 23:06 |
|
chris |
you should all things going well end up at the catalogue search page |
| 23:07 |
|
kados |
huh ... for some reason it's trying for the default |
| 23:07 |
|
chris |
it will do that |
| 23:07 |
|
kados |
[Tue Mar 28 20:08:17 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] HTML::Template->new() : Cannot open included file /home/koha/plugin/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/default/en/cataloguing/addbiblio.tmpl : file not found. at /usr/share/perl5/HTML/Template.pm line 1580 |
| 23:07 |
|
chris |
if it cant find the corresponding npl one |
| 23:07 |
|
chris |
ie, it fails back to the defaul |
| 23:07 |
|
chris |
t |
| 23:07 |
|
kados |
ahh |
| 23:09 |
|
kados |
well ... I think it worked |
| 23:09 |
|
chris |
zebra log will tell ya |
| 23:09 |
|
chris |
if you see |
| 23:09 |
|
chris |
15:06:29-29/03 zebrasrv(8) [request] EsRequest OK: Done ! |
| 23:09 |
|
kados |
nopw, but we're close |
| 23:09 |
|
kados |
[Tue Mar 28 20:08:17 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] HTML::Template->new() : Cannot open included file /home/koha/plugin/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/default/en/cataloguing/addbiblio.tmpl : file not found. at /usr/share/perl5/HTML/Template.pm line 1580 |
| 23:09 |
|
kados |
woops |
| 23:09 |
|
kados |
20:11:40-28/03 zebrasrv(9) [request] EsRequest ERROR 224 only XML update supported |
| 23:10 |
|
chris |
ah ha |
| 23:10 |
|
chris |
get the latest version of Biblio.pm |
| 23:10 |
|
chris |
i fixed that |
| 23:12 |
|
kados |
h |
| 23:12 |
|
kados |
uh |
| 23:12 |
|
kados |
now I get: |
| 23:12 |
|
kados |
20:15:03-28/03 zebrasrv(12) [log] delete grs.xml <no file> 0 |
| 23:12 |
|
kados |
20:15:03-28/03 zebrasrv(12) [warn] cannot delete record above (seems new) |
| 23:12 |
|
kados |
20:15:03-28/03 zebrasrv(12) [warn] zebra_delete_record failed r=1 |
| 23:13 |
|
kados |
but the detail page for that record still works |
| 23:13 |
|
kados |
strangely |
| 23:13 |
|
chris |
interesting |
| 23:13 |
|
chris |
i havent seen that error before |
| 23:13 |
|
chris |
i get |
| 23:13 |
|
kados |
and it's a 500 error too |
| 23:13 |
|
chris |
15:06:29-29/03 zebrasrv(8) [log] 1605 bytes: |
| 23:13 |
|
chris |
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?> |
| 23:13 |
|
chris |
<collection xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/ ... |
| 23:13 |
|
chris |
15:06:29-29/03 zebrasrv(8) [log] delete grs.xml <no file> 0 |
| 23:14 |
|
chris |
15:06:29-29/03 zebrasrv(8) [log] zebra_end_trans |
| 23:14 |
|
kados |
huh |
| 23:14 |
|
kados |
apache has: |
| 23:14 |
|
kados |
[Tue Mar 28 20:16:27 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] ZOOM error 224 "ES: immediate execution failed" (addinfo: "delete_record failed") from diag-set 'Bib-1' |
| 23:14 |
|
kados |
lemme try another biblionumber |
| 23:15 |
|
kados |
same deal |
| 23:15 |
|
chris |
hmmm |
| 23:15 |
|
kados |
20:17:53-28/03 zebrasrv(16) [log] delete grs.xml <no file> 0 |
| 23:15 |
|
kados |
20:17:53-28/03 zebrasrv(16) [warn] cannot delete record above (seems new) |
| 23:15 |
|
kados |
20:17:53-28/03 zebrasrv(16) [warn] zebra_delete_record failed r=1 |
| 23:15 |
|
chris |
whats before the delete bit |
| 23:15 |
|
chris |
some xml? |
| 23:15 |
|
kados |
20:17:53-28/03 zebrasrv(16) [log] 2189 bytes: |
| 23:15 |
|
kados |
<record xmlns="http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/slim"><leader>00686 2200217 4500</leader><controlfield tag="001">105730</controlfield><controlfield tag="003">ACLS</contr ... |
| 23:15 |
|
chris |
right |
| 23:16 |
|
kados |
ahh ... I did modify my version of MARC::File::XML |
| 23:16 |
|
kados |
to strip out the <collection> tag |
| 23:16 |
|
chris |
ah |
| 23:16 |
|
kados |
could that be it? |
| 23:16 |
|
chris |
that might be |
| 23:16 |
|
kados |
lemme uncomment that |
| 23:16 |
|
chris |
i get |
| 23:16 |
|
chris |
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?> |
| 23:16 |
|
chris |
<collection xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/ ... |
| 23:16 |
|
kados |
right |
| 23:16 |
|
chris |
i might be this bit |
| 23:17 |
|
chris |
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?> |
| 23:17 |
|
chris |
thats needed |
| 23:18 |
|
kados |
huh ... and how do I get that big? |
| 23:18 |
|
kados |
bit even |
| 23:18 |
|
chris |
no idea |
| 23:19 |
|
chris |
lets just try with the collection bit |
| 23:19 |
|
kados |
huh ... I can't seem to find that modif |
| 23:19 |
|
kados |
guess I'll just delete it and reinstall |
| 23:22 |
|
kados |
huh ... now my rmmod.pl script says it's not even installed |
| 23:22 |
|
kados |
arrrg |
| 23:31 |
|
kados |
I think I know what the problem is |
| 23:31 |
|
chris |
whats that? |
| 23:31 |
|
kados |
when I indexed those records |
| 23:31 |
|
kados |
they went in with a <record> wrapper |
| 23:31 |
|
kados |
cause I indexed them using zebraidx |
| 23:31 |
|
kados |
which doesn't use a collection wrapper |
| 23:31 |
|
kados |
I'll drop a replacement XML.pm file in C4 |
| 23:32 |
|
kados |
with <record> wrapper |
| 23:32 |
|
kados |
course, that still might screw things up |
| 23:32 |
|
chris |
hmm |
| 23:32 |
|
kados |
cause somewhere we might need <collection> right? |
| 23:32 |
|
chris |
could be |
| 23:32 |
|
kados |
(zebra doesn't create a collection wrapper when you use zebraidx) |
| 23:32 |
|
chris |
ahh right |
| 23:33 |
|
kados |
arrg, my head hurts |
| 23:54 |
|
kados |
chris: I've no idea what to do here |
| 23:54 |
|
kados |
chris: maybe put a collection wrapper back in if one doesn't exist? |
| 23:55 |
|
kados |
chris: zebra shouldn't use it anyway |
| 23:55 |
|
kados |
so I'm confused about why it should matter |
| 23:55 |
|
chris |
i have no idea im afraid, im not sure why it works on mine, but not there |
| 23:55 |
|
kados |
is there a way I can delete in yaz? |
| 23:57 |
|
chris |
hmmmm |
| 23:57 |
|
chris |
not that i know of |
| 23:58 |
|
kados |
well what else could it be |
| 23:58 |
|
kados |
20:58:15-28/03 zebrasrv(24) [log] delete grs.xml <no file> 0 |
| 23:58 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 23:58 |
|
kados |
20:58:15-28/03 zebrasrv(24) [warn] cannot delete record above (seems new) |
| 23:58 |
|
kados |
20:58:15-28/03 zebrasrv(24) [warn] zebra_delete_record failed r=1 |
| 23:59 |
|
kados |
could you paste in your log |
| 23:59 |
|
kados |
starting with the xml bit |
| 23:59 |
|
chris |
15:22:27-29/03 zebrasrv(13) [log] delete grs.xml <no file> 0 |
| 23:59 |
|
chris |
15:22:27-29/03 zebrasrv(13) [log] zebra_end_trans |
| 23:59 |
|
chris |
thats the bit right after the xml bit |
| 23:59 |
|
chris |
no warns |
| 23:59 |
|
chris |
it just does it |
| 00:00 |
|
chris |
can u check ur koha-error_log |
| 00:00 |
|
chris |
it should have the record in xml in it |
| 00:01 |
|
kados |
I [Tue Mar 28 20:58:15 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] heres the record to delete 58058 at /home/koha/plugin/koha/intranet/modules/C4/Biblio.pm line 1001. |
| 00:01 |
|
kados |
[Tue Mar 28 20:58:15 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] ZOOM error 224 "ES: immediate execution failed" (addinfo: "delete_record failed") from diag-set 'Bib-1' |
| 00:01 |
|
kados |
I put a warn in with the XML |
| 00:01 |
|
chris |
you could edit Search.pm |
| 00:01 |
|
chris |
in get_xml_record |
| 00:01 |
|
kados |
yea, I did |
| 00:01 |
|
chris |
where it says ###$record |
| 00:01 |
|
kados |
added a warn, also tried adding a <collection wrapper |
| 00:02 |
|
chris |
make that ### $record |
| 00:02 |
|
kados |
really? waht woudl that do? |
| 00:02 |
|
chris |
thats using smart::comments |
| 00:02 |
|
chris |
it will output it nicely |
| 00:02 |
|
kados |
ok |
| 00:03 |
|
chris |
should be just before that heres the record to delete line shows up |
| 00:03 |
|
chris |
in the log |
| 00:03 |
|
kados |
yea |
| 00:03 |
|
kados |
it's there |
| 00:03 |
|
kados |
[Tue Mar 28 21:05:43 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] ### $record: '<record xmlns="http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/slim"><leader>00686 2200217 4500</leader><controlfield tag="001">105730</controlfield><controlfiel |
| 00:03 |
|
kados |
<snip> |
| 00:03 |
|
kados |
[Tue Mar 28 21:05:43 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] <idzebra xmlns="http://www.indexdata.dk/zebra/"> |
| 00:03 |
|
kados |
[Tue Mar 28 21:05:43 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] <size>686</size> |
| 00:03 |
|
kados |
[Tue Mar 28 21:05:43 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] <localnumber>50800</localnumber> |
| 00:03 |
|
kados |
[Tue Mar 28 21:05:43 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] <filename>records/npl.iso2709</filename> |
| 00:04 |
|
kados |
[Tue Mar 28 21:05:43 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] </idzebra> |
| 00:04 |
|
kados |
[Tue Mar 28 21:05:43 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] </record>' |
| 00:04 |
|
kados |
so I'm guessing that's different thank yours |
| 00:04 |
|
chris |
hmm thats with ur warn eh |
| 00:04 |
|
chris |
with smart comments you dont get all the stuff in front |
| 00:04 |
|
chris |
just the variable |
| 00:04 |
|
kados |
huh ... |
| 00:04 |
|
chris |
all this |
| 00:04 |
|
chris |
[Tue Mar 28 21:05:43 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] |
| 00:04 |
|
chris |
makes it easier to see :) |
| 00:05 |
|
chris |
well i have no filename bit |
| 00:05 |
|
kados |
what i pasted above is not my warn |
| 00:05 |
|
kados |
cause I uncommented my warn |
| 00:05 |
|
chris |
ah maybe ur logs just do that |
| 00:05 |
|
kados |
yea, could be |
| 00:05 |
|
chris |
<idzebra xmlns="http://www.indexdata.dk/zebra/"> |
| 00:05 |
|
chris |
<size>1454</size> |
| 00:05 |
|
chris |
<localnumber>44</localnumber> |
| 00:05 |
|
chris |
</idzebra> |
| 00:05 |
|
chris |
</collection> |
| 00:05 |
|
chris |
is how mine finishes |
| 00:06 |
|
kados |
huhso mine has a filename |
| 00:06 |
|
chris |
plus </record> instead of </collection> |
| 00:06 |
|
kados |
and is wrapped in <record> |
| 00:06 |
|
chris |
heres where my record bit is |
| 00:06 |
|
chris |
</record> |
| 00:06 |
|
chris |
<idzebra xmlns="http://www.indexdata.dk/zebra/"> |
| 00:06 |
|
chris |
<size>1454</size> |
| 00:06 |
|
chris |
<localnumber>44</localnumber> |
| 00:06 |
|
chris |
</idzebra> |
| 00:06 |
|
chris |
</collection> |
| 00:06 |
|
chris |
before it |
| 00:07 |
|
kados |
huh |
| 00:07 |
|
kados |
so maybe when I index I need to specify something special |
| 00:07 |
|
chris |
you could try bulkmarcimporting 1 or 2 records |
| 00:07 |
|
kados |
yea |
| 00:07 |
|
kados |
I'll do that |
| 00:07 |
|
chris |
and see if they delete |
| 00:07 |
|
kados |
but we still need a way to deal with both types |
| 00:07 |
|
kados |
because there's no way we're importing 150K records with perl-zoom |
| 00:07 |
|
kados |
it'd take 4 days |
| 00:09 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 00:09 |
|
chris |
itd be good to know if that was the problem |
| 00:09 |
|
chris |
though |
| 00:10 |
|
kados |
huh ... |
| 00:10 |
|
kados |
i imported three records |
| 00:10 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 00:10 |
|
kados |
but I can't find them |
| 00:10 |
|
chris |
hmmm |
| 00:12 |
|
kados |
looks like they imported ok |
| 00:12 |
|
kados |
21:11:39-28/03 zebrasrv(26) [log] 3053 bytes: |
| 00:12 |
|
kados |
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><collection xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/slim http://www.l ... |
| 00:12 |
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kados |
got a commit start and clean |
| 00:12 |
|
chris |
hmm |
| 00:12 |
|
kados |
so something definitely changed |
| 00:12 |
|
chris |
weird |
| 00:13 |
|
kados |
yea |
| 00:14 |
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kados |
I wonder if anything else works |
| 00:14 |
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kados |
like modifies or check-outs |
| 00:15 |
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kados |
huh ... member searches 500 |
| 00:15 |
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kados |
wtf |
| 00:15 |
|
kados |
Tue Mar 28 21:17:54 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] Undefined subroutine &main::BornameSearch called at /home/koha/plugin/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/members/member.pl line 80., referer: http://kohatest2.liblime.com/c[…]tail.pl?bib=58058 |
| 00:15 |
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kados |
great ... |
| 00:16 |
|
chris |
what the hell |
| 00:16 |
|
chris |
ahh thats probably in Search.pm |
| 00:17 |
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kados |
it's in Borrowers.pm in rel_2_2 |
| 00:17 |
|
kados |
ahh .. head I mean |
| 00:17 |
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chris |
right, that will be the problem it must have been in Search.pm in 2_2 |
| 00:17 |
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kados |
yup |
| 00:17 |
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kados |
that's gonna wreak havok |
| 00:18 |
|
kados |
I've had enough for tonight :-) |
| 00:18 |
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kados |
heading to bed |
| 00:18 |
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chris |
what we will need to do, is add the sub routines to Search.pm for rel_2_2 not replace Search.pm |
| 00:18 |
|
kados |
more beating my head against the wall tomorrow :-) |
| 00:18 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 00:18 |
|
chris |
i have no idea why the deletes wont work |
| 00:18 |
|
chris |
but ill look into it more |
| 00:19 |
|
kados |
thanks |
| 00:19 |
|
chris |
its tricky as i dont seem to be able to replicate it |
| 00:19 |
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kados |
let me send you my install notes |
| 00:19 |
|
kados |
so you can |
| 00:20 |
|
chris |
i cant make it not delete |
| 00:20 |
|
chris |
i mean |
| 00:20 |
|
kados |
well, you imported differently than me too |
| 00:20 |
|
kados |
which I suspect is the problem |
| 00:20 |
|
chris |
yeah i did bulkmarcimport |
| 00:20 |
|
chris |
but why didnt that work for you either |
| 00:20 |
|
kados |
dunno |
| 00:20 |
|
chris |
anyway, go get some sleep |
| 00:21 |
|
kados |
before i go |
| 00:21 |
|
chris |
clear head always helps |
| 00:21 |
|
kados |
here's what you would need to do |
| 00:21 |
|
kados |
record.abs is already committed |
| 00:21 |
|
kados |
so just create a zebra/records dir |
| 00:21 |
|
chris |
whats different between record.abs and collection.abs ? |
| 00:21 |
|
kados |
copy the npl.mrc I gave you over to the records dir |
| 00:21 |
|
chris |
anything? |
| 00:21 |
|
kados |
and rename it as npl.iso2709 |
| 00:22 |
|
kados |
nothing different |
| 00:22 |
|
chris |
k |
| 00:22 |
|
kados |
to import |
| 00:22 |
|
kados |
go: |
| 00:22 |
|
kados |
# zebraidx -g iso2709 -d kohaplugin update records -n |
| 00:22 |
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kados |
# zebraidx commit |
| 00:22 |
|
chris |
maybe we should just symlink them |
| 00:22 |
|
kados |
where zebraplugin is your dbname |
| 00:22 |
|
kados |
yea, good idea |
| 00:22 |
|
kados |
we need both if we're going to zebraidx as well as bulkmarcimport |
| 00:22 |
|
chris |
right |
| 00:22 |
|
kados |
because MARC::File::XML uses a collection wrapper but zebra doesn't |
| 00:23 |
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kados |
anyway, that will get you up and running like me |
| 00:23 |
|
chris |
zebraidx does create the koha stuff right? |
| 00:23 |
|
chris |
doesnt even |
| 00:23 |
|
kados |
it assumes you've got the koha stuff in there already |
| 00:23 |
|
chris |
right |
| 00:23 |
|
kados |
npl's data does |
| 00:23 |
|
kados |
so meadville will import into 2.2 |
| 00:23 |
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kados |
then export with the marc.pl script |
| 00:24 |
|
kados |
then import into zebra with zebraidx |
| 00:24 |
|
chris |
ah right |
| 00:24 |
|
kados |
(I modified marc.pl to just dump to a file) |
| 00:24 |
|
kados |
(which is what the npl.mrc file is) |
| 00:24 |
|
kados |
(do you still have that btw?) |
| 00:24 |
|
chris |
ok ill have a look see if i can get it to break |
| 00:24 |
|
kados |
(I'll post is somewhere just in case) |
| 00:25 |
|
chris |
id have to load all the npl data for it to be useful |
| 00:25 |
|
chris |
ill just export a couple of the records ive already loaded |
| 00:25 |
|
chris |
and then zebraidx them |
| 00:25 |
|
chris |
and see if that breaks |
| 00:27 |
|
kados |
all you need to do to modify the marc.pl export script |
| 00:27 |
|
kados |
is comment out the first print |
| 00:27 |
|
kados |
then you can run it like |
| 00:28 |
|
kados |
./marc.pl op=export start_bib=1 end_bib=3 > records.mrc |
| 00:28 |
|
chris |
ta |
| 00:28 |
|
kados |
k ... I'm out |
| 00:28 |
|
chris |
cya |
| 03:27 |
|
osmoze |
hello |
| 03:40 |
|
pierrick |
is an old koha developer present ? |
| 03:45 |
|
chris |
im not that old, im only 32 |
| 03:45 |
|
chris |
:-) |
| 03:45 |
|
chris |
what do you need pierrick? |
| 03:48 |
|
hdl |
hi |
| 03:48 |
|
chris |
hi hdl |
| 03:54 |
|
chris |
pierrick: im just off to wash the dishes, ill be back in a bit, if you want to ask anything about old koha |
| 04:08 |
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pierrick |
about bugtracker, I was wondering what meant the state "RESOLVED VERIFIED"? What is required to close the bug after this? |
| 04:14 |
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chris |
back |
| 04:15 |
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chris |
ahh, it should go resolved - fixed, or resolved - invalid, etc |
| 04:16 |
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chris |
then verified when someone has checked it |
| 04:16 |
|
chris |
closed when its been released |
| 04:17 |
|
chris |
so resolved - invalid, could go straight to closed |
| 04:17 |
|
chris |
fixed, should be verified, then closed |
| 04:17 |
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chris |
at least thats how i use it |
| 04:18 |
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chris |
ideally a developer marks something as fixed, when he/she thinks they have fixed it, someone else verifies the fix, then the qa person closes the bug |
| 04:18 |
|
chris |
if they are happy |
| 04:20 |
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pierrick |
OK, so every bug VERFIED on Koha 1.x should be CLOSED today |
| 04:20 |
|
chris |
yes |
| 04:21 |
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pierrick |
thank you chris, I'll close som bugs today |
| 04:21 |
|
chris |
thank you |
| 04:21 |
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pierrick |
chris, do you take care of koha.org ? |
| 04:21 |
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pierrick |
or is that russ work ? |
| 04:21 |
|
chris |
some of it |
| 04:21 |
|
chris |
russ does most of it |
| 04:22 |
|
chris |
if you want something changed i can do that |
| 04:22 |
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pierrick |
yesterday, you said I made good suggestions about user oriented tools |
| 04:22 |
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chris |
ah yes you did |
| 04:23 |
|
chris |
number 2 is already started |
| 04:28 |
|
chris |
the extensions/templates is a great idea |
| 04:28 |
|
chris |
ive been wanting to do something like that for a long time, where people can submit their templates |
| 04:29 |
|
pierrick |
I wanted to discuss with kados about extension manager, because he said he wanted a kohazilla.org who would do the same |
| 04:30 |
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chris |
we could have |
| 04:30 |
|
chris |
templates.koha.org |
| 04:30 |
|
chris |
extensions.koha.org |
| 04:30 |
|
chris |
etc |
| 04:30 |
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pierrick |
why only "templates" ? |
| 04:30 |
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pierrick |
OK, better with "extensions" |
| 04:30 |
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pierrick |
Imagine customers sharing their biblioframeworks as well... |
| 04:31 |
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chris |
true that would be great |
| 04:31 |
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chris |
coordinating this, and looking after these sort of things are the kind of things id like to see a foundation take charge of |
| 04:32 |
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pierrick |
when I searched this kind of software for PhpWebGallery, I found nothing, so a team member wrote something |
| 04:32 |
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pierrick |
we are going to make it free independant software, usable for any project |
| 04:33 |
|
chris |
sweet |
| 04:33 |
|
pierrick |
it is based on extensions, revisions of extension, compatibility with the extended software. For example, revision 2 of template "darksky" is compatible with Koha 2.2.5 and 2.2.6 |
| 04:34 |
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pierrick |
you come to the extension manager and ask template compatible with Koha 2.2.5, "darksky" will be listed |
| 04:34 |
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chris |
ooohh that sounds ideal |
| 04:35 |
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pierrick |
did you work with Joshua about an extension manager ? |
| 04:35 |
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chris |
no, it was just in the idea stage |
| 04:35 |
|
chris |
we didnt get any further |
| 04:35 |
|
chris |
(no time) |
| 04:37 |
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pierrick |
OK, will you or russ have time to install something on koha.org in April |
| 04:38 |
|
chris |
yep ill make time |
| 04:39 |
|
osmoze |
someone knows if a module inventory is in todo list ? |
| 04:40 |
|
chris |
i think tumer has written some code to do stock inventory |
| 04:40 |
|
chris |
i seem to remember an email he sent paul about it |
| 04:40 |
|
chris |
but i havent seen it working |
| 04:40 |
|
osmoze |
ok, i will investigate :) |
| 05:52 |
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pierrick |
reading koha-devel archive, I've found a suggestion on user tagging feature : http://lists.nongnu.org/archiv[…]-10/msg00011.html Was this feature added? Is someone interested in doing it? |
| 05:53 |
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chris |
it seems like something interesting, but no one has worked on it as far as i know |
| 05:54 |
|
pierrick |
OK :-) |
| 05:55 |
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pierrick |
are there features like suggestions to borrowers already been planned ? |
| 05:55 |
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chris |
suggestions to borrowers? |
| 05:55 |
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pierrick |
I mean like on Amazon. Based on what you already look and buy, Amazon suggests to look at other items. |
| 05:55 |
|
chris |
ahhh |
| 05:56 |
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pierrick |
tagging would do this in some way |
| 05:56 |
|
chris |
we could do something like that |
| 05:56 |
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pierrick |
based on other users experience |
| 05:56 |
|
chris |
that would be cool |
| 05:58 |
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pierrick |
"see" and "see also" are already a first suggestion way, but very static. In fact, I don't know very well how "see" and "see also" work... I have to investigate |
| 05:58 |
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chris |
yeah, letting users suggest others |
| 05:59 |
|
chris |
would be good |
| 05:59 |
|
pierrick |
so the user tagging feature is interesting :-) |
| 06:00 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 06:00 |
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pierrick |
but does not exactly suggest... it's something else... |
| 06:00 |
|
chris |
yeah, grouping |
| 06:01 |
|
chris |
hmm suggestions, how to do it nicely |
| 06:02 |
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pierrick |
the Amazon way ? |
| 06:02 |
|
chris |
well we'd have to collect more info |
| 06:02 |
|
chris |
the trick is |
| 06:02 |
|
chris |
that in order to be useful we need to track what users look at |
| 06:03 |
|
chris |
which is scary in the USA with the patriot act |
| 06:03 |
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pierrick |
lol |
| 06:04 |
|
chris |
only being slightly joking, if you dont track what users look at, you cant hand that info over to the FBI |
| 06:04 |
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pierrick |
I have the same problem with PhpWebGallery navigation logs |
| 06:04 |
|
paul |
pierrick ? |
| 06:05 |
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pierrick |
we don't need to make logs associated to a borrower. We just need to know that "a" borrower did this and then that. |
| 06:05 |
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pierrick |
paul, yes ? |
| 06:06 |
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paul |
you should read carefully the wiki page about KohaCon, may 3rd. |
| 06:06 |
|
chris |
ohh true |
| 06:06 |
|
paul |
i've added you as a speaker ! |
| 06:06 |
|
chris |
good point pierrick |
| 06:06 |
|
chris |
hi paul |
| 06:06 |
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paul |
hi chris. |
| 06:06 |
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pierrick |
paul, OK, interesting to speak in public :-) |
| 06:07 |
|
osmoze |
what is "vendangeur" for pierrick Paul ? |
| 06:07 |
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paul |
hi osmoze. |
| 06:07 |
|
paul |
pierrick will explain itself ! |
| 06:07 |
|
osmoze |
hi :) |
| 06:10 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 06:13 |
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pierrick |
chris, about user tagging, what would be the difference with virtual shelves? I think user tagging is just improving virtual shelves functionnality |
| 06:14 |
|
chris |
hmm you could be right |
| 08:34 |
|
osmoze |
paul ? |
| 08:34 |
|
paul |
yep |
| 08:37 |
|
osmoze |
une suggestion, dans les transferts |
| 08:38 |
|
osmoze |
a chaque livre il faut remettre la branch |
| 08:38 |
|
osmoze |
c est pas tres pratique quand on transfert 500 livres |
| 08:38 |
|
osmoze |
qq un a deja fait cette remarque ? |
| 08:40 |
|
osmoze |
(je m explique, je passe 500 livres de laf à vazerac, a chaque fois je dois remettre vazerac...Une tres grosse perte de temps pour nous |
| 08:40 |
|
osmoze |
) |
| 08:40 |
|
osmoze |
je reprend |
| 08:40 |
|
paul |
tu veux dire que la branche de destination doit être resaisie après chaque transfert ? |
| 08:40 |
|
osmoze |
oui |
| 08:41 |
|
osmoze |
il serai bien de faire comme pour le pret, tu mets ta branches et hop, ca reste |
| 08:43 |
|
osmoze |
tu vois mon idée alors paul ? |
| 08:44 |
|
paul |
(au tel) |
| 08:51 |
|
paul |
oui je vois l'idée |
| 09:07 |
|
osmoze |
tu penses qu une petite modifs pourrait etre faite pour la 2.4 ? |
| 09:07 |
|
paul |
je vais la noter. |
| 09:07 |
|
paul |
je pense que ca devrait être simple |
| 09:09 |
|
osmoze |
cool :) |
| 09:22 |
|
paul |
hdl ? |
| 09:23 |
|
hdl |
oui |
| 09:23 |
|
paul |
tu as réservé l'hotel à partir du dimanche 7 mai à Marseille ? |
| 09:23 |
|
hdl |
Oui. |
| 09:23 |
|
paul |
ah, ok, je me demandais si c'était une erreur de date. |
| 09:23 |
|
hdl |
Tu pense que je devrais réserver à partir du 8 ? |
| 09:24 |
|
paul |
du tout, tu passeras le dimanche soir avec nos hotes étrangers |
| 09:24 |
|
paul |
(et pierrick, qui a réservé le 7 au soir lui aussi) |
| 09:24 |
|
hdl |
Il me semblait que ce serait mieux d'être sur place la veille. |
| 09:38 |
|
kados |
paul: yes, I was trying to call them rjust now |
| 09:38 |
|
kados |
paul: I never recieved an email from them |
| 09:39 |
|
kados |
paul: after I submitted the web form |
| 09:39 |
|
paul |
they told me they sended one to request your credit card number |
| 09:39 |
|
kados |
hmmm, I did not recieve it |
| 09:39 |
|
paul |
they at least have recieved your mail |
| 09:39 |
|
kados |
great, can they send it again? |
| 09:39 |
|
paul |
if you don't succeed to get them, let me know. |
| 09:40 |
|
kados |
I have attempted to dial +33 4 91 33 65 64 |
| 09:40 |
|
kados |
but it doesn't seem to connect ... |
| 09:41 |
|
paul |
that's the correct # |
| 09:41 |
|
kados |
I'll try again |
| 09:41 |
|
paul |
you can also try http://www.europe-hotel.fr/fr/[…]tacts/contact.php |
| 09:43 |
|
kados |
ok |
| 09:43 |
|
kados |
paul: quick question |
| 09:43 |
|
kados |
paul: in the US, often a hotel does not charge extra for more persons in a room (up to 5) |
| 09:43 |
|
kados |
is this the same in France? |
| 09:43 |
|
kados |
(we will add one to our number) |
| 09:44 |
|
paul |
it depends on the hotel. |
| 09:44 |
|
paul |
who will you add ? |
| 09:44 |
|
kados |
Sara, our junior programmer :-) |
| 09:44 |
|
kados |
programmer in training ... she attends the local college |
| 09:44 |
|
paul |
for europe hotel, it seems they only have single / twin. |
| 09:44 |
|
kados |
and 'double' whatever that is |
| 09:44 |
|
paul |
twin is for 2, same price if you are 1 or 2. |
| 09:45 |
|
kados |
right |
| 09:45 |
|
paul |
twin is : 2 1 person bed |
| 09:45 |
|
paul |
double is : 1 2 person bed |
| 09:45 |
|
kados |
right |
| 09:45 |
|
paul |
they have a 'triple' |
| 09:45 |
|
paul |
(75¤) |
| 09:45 |
|
paul |
you could ask them. |
| 09:45 |
|
kados |
yes, I will |
| 09:46 |
|
paul |
but 1 man & 2 women in the same bedroom will make ppl looking at you as a strange guy... |
| 09:46 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 09:46 |
|
kados |
ok, message sent |
| 09:46 |
|
paul |
how much cost a flight ticket Columbus => paris ? |
| 09:47 |
|
paul |
(& back to columbus) |
| 09:47 |
|
kados |
approx $700 USD |
| 09:47 |
|
paul |
that's what I was thinking. Quite the same for us paris > columbus > paris |
| 09:48 |
|
paul |
my student arrive in 20mn |
| 09:48 |
|
paul |
youpi ! |
| 09:49 |
|
kados |
woohoo |
| 09:51 |
|
kados |
paul: are there many riots in Marseille? |
| 09:51 |
|
paul |
riots ? |
| 09:51 |
|
kados |
revolutions :-) |
| 09:52 |
|
kados |
small revolutions == riots :-) |
| 09:52 |
|
paul |
do you want to laugh a little : |
| 09:52 |
|
paul |
the police says that yesterday there was 28 000 ppl in the street (against the CPE) |
| 09:52 |
|
kados |
yes |
| 09:53 |
|
kados |
(in US they reported 200K in Marseille alone) :-) |
| 09:53 |
|
paul |
and how many for ppl organising the défilé (don't know the word in english) ? |
| 09:53 |
|
paul |
they said 250 000 |
| 09:53 |
|
paul |
usually police says X and ppl say 2X or 2.5X |
| 09:53 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 09:53 |
|
paul |
but in Marseille, there is always a *8 or *10 factor ! |
| 09:53 |
|
kados |
he |
| 09:54 |
|
kados |
so which is it? 28K or 250K ? :-) |
| 09:54 |
|
pierrick |
that's why Marseille is so much appreciated... |
| 09:54 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 09:54 |
|
paul |
to answer your question : don't be afraid and don't hear what NYT says : france is safer than Badgad ! |
| 09:54 |
|
pierrick |
let's say 50K |
| 09:54 |
|
paul |
s/hear/believe/ |
| 09:54 |
|
paul |
I would say 2 things : |
| 09:55 |
|
paul |
* police has a constant method to cound ppl : they take a photo from the sky, and use a grid. |
| 09:55 |
|
paul |
100 in a grid & 100 grids filled => 10 000 persons. |
| 09:55 |
|
kados |
right |
| 09:55 |
|
paul |
organisators counts ppl passing on a given point. |
| 09:56 |
|
paul |
so, it's not strange to have a x2 or x2,5 difference. |
| 09:56 |
|
paul |
but I bet that Marseille want always to be the largest & highest & tallest & biggest & ...est city in france. |
| 09:56 |
|
paul |
so, it's not enough to have 30 000 ppl. |
| 09:56 |
|
paul |
250 000 is better. |
| 09:56 |
|
paul |
so let's say we were 250 000. |
| 09:57 |
|
pierrick |
to conclude I would say that riots should never take place in forrest... |
| 09:57 |
|
paul |
(note that the city is 800 000 ppl) |
| 09:57 |
|
pierrick |
trees would prevent from counting! |
| 09:59 |
|
kados |
paul: I finally got through to the hotel ... they are writing me another email right now |
| 10:00 |
|
paul |
great ! |
| 10:06 |
|
kados |
chris got deletions working last night |
| 10:06 |
|
kados |
well, partly |
| 10:06 |
|
kados |
they work for records imported via perl-zoom |
| 10:07 |
|
paul |
kados : my student is here. |
| 10:07 |
|
kados |
but not yet for records imported with zebraidx (like Tumer's example) |
| 10:07 |
|
paul |
and I still don't have anything from you ! |
| 10:07 |
|
kados |
paul: tell him hello for me :-) |
| 10:07 |
|
kados |
ha |
| 10:07 |
|
paul |
(you told me you had some suggestions to do) |
| 10:07 |
|
kados |
yes ... I can tell you right now |
| 10:07 |
|
paul |
but is here if you prefer a chat |
| 10:07 |
|
kados |
ok ... in fact I'll update the wiki |
| 10:08 |
|
paul |
great |
| 10:08 |
|
kados |
http://wiki.liblime.com/doku.p[…]catalogingproject |
| 10:15 |
|
paul |
kados : can I add sara to the 2nd week list ? |
| 10:16 |
|
kados |
paul: yes, though I'm not 100% sure she will spend all time with developers |
| 10:16 |
|
paul |
no prob |
| 10:16 |
|
kados |
paul: but certainly some :-) |
| 10:29 |
|
kados |
paul: http://wiki.liblime.com/doku.p[…]catalogingproject |
| 10:29 |
|
kados |
paul: I will expand it later today |
| 10:29 |
|
kados |
paul: I need to head out for a bitt |
| 10:29 |
|
kados |
paul: back in about an hour |
| 10:40 |
|
pierrick |
I have the same problem Owen encountered 3 months ago : http://koha.org/cgi-bin/logs.p[…]:18&search=Search |
| 10:40 |
|
pierrick |
branchcode in aqbookfund |
| 10:40 |
|
pierrick |
not supported in HEAD it seems. Do I suppose it is a result of a too violent merge from rel_2_2 ? |
| 10:44 |
|
pierrick |
hdl, you worked on this, can you help me? http://lists.nongnu.org/archiv[…]-01/msg00120.html |
| 11:13 |
|
paul |
hdl ? |
| 11:13 |
|
hdl |
oui |
| 11:47 |
|
kados |
paul: hotel confirmed :-) |
| 11:47 |
|
paul |
great. |
| 11:47 |
|
paul |
for 3 ? |
| 11:47 |
|
paul |
(in the triple I mean) |
| 11:49 |
|
kados |
paul: how far is it from the hotel to the dev meeting location? |
| 11:50 |
|
paul |
something like 15km |
| 11:50 |
|
kados |
ahh |
| 11:50 |
|
kados |
quite far then |
| 11:50 |
|
paul |
yes, but hotel is in marseille center. |
| 11:50 |
|
paul |
while CMI is in the north. |
| 11:50 |
|
kados |
right |
| 11:50 |
|
kados |
it's best I think |
| 11:51 |
|
kados |
makes it easy to 'see the city' |
| 11:51 |
|
kados |
after work :-) |
| 11:51 |
|
paul |
& marseille center is interesting, while the marseille north is something to avoid generally ! |
| 11:51 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 11:51 |
|
kados |
(yes, the triple) |
| 11:57 |
|
kados |
paul: about XUL MARC editor |
| 11:57 |
|
kados |
paul: do you have a moment to discuss it? |
| 11:58 |
|
paul |
yep ? |
| 11:58 |
|
paul |
no |
| 11:58 |
|
kados |
ok |
| 11:58 |
|
paul |
I write a mail, & leave. |
| 11:58 |
|
kados |
I will email you |
| 11:58 |
|
paul |
i'll be there tomorrow, but not on friday. |
| 11:58 |
|
kados |
ok |
| 11:58 |
|
paul |
due to riot, antoine has a last course tomorrow, so he will begin really on monday |
