| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:02 |
|
hdl |
(hi owen) |
| 02:13 |
|
osmoze |
hello |
| 03:42 |
|
Sylvain |
chris ? |
| 03:42 |
|
chris |
hiya sylvain |
| 03:42 |
|
Sylvain |
Your mail helped me but raised new questions :) |
| 03:44 |
|
Sylvain |
I understood more about the biblio/bibitem/item structure but can't see (haven't searched more right now) how bulkmarcimmport can know that an item is a "part" of a biblioitem |
| 03:46 |
|
chris |
im not sure it does |
| 03:47 |
|
chris |
i suspect it makes one biblioitem and one item for each |
| 03:48 |
|
chris |
it should be possible to make it smarter |
| 03:48 |
|
chris |
so that it checks if a biblioitem already exists thats the same, it attaches an item to it, rather than making another identical biblioitem |
| 03:48 |
|
chris |
thats how all the import from non-marc scripts work |
| 03:49 |
|
Sylvain |
well, it'll be longer than what I was thinking ! |
| 03:49 |
|
Sylvain |
let's go for a funny day :) |
| 03:50 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 03:50 |
|
chris |
the other thing you can do, with marc off is move items between biblioitems |
| 03:51 |
|
chris |
so import them all in, then go through and combine things .. but you wouldnt want to do that for a big catalogue :) |
| 03:51 |
|
Sylvain |
yes, 30 000 items so I'm going to 'hack' bulkmarcimport |
| 03:52 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 03:52 |
|
chris |
it might be worth asking paul too, as he might say "you cant do that" or "that wont work" |
| 03:52 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 03:53 |
|
Sylvain |
unless he's there I'm going to play with bulkmarcimprt (hoping he won't then say that wont work :)) |
| 03:53 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 05:34 |
|
Sylvain |
chris, does horowhenua use marc ? |
| 05:35 |
|
chris |
not currently no |
| 05:35 |
|
chris |
none of the 13 or so libraries we look after do, but hlt might use it a bit for copy cataloguing in the future |
| 05:36 |
|
chris |
(the marc is there in the background for most of them, but they just dont prefer to see it :-)) |
| 05:38 |
|
Sylvain |
for the example you gave me (the two towers), it is stocked in marc ? |
| 05:38 |
|
chris |
hmm not at hlt ... it will be in a month or 2 when we finish their upgrade to 2.2 |
| 05:39 |
|
Sylvain |
k |
| 05:39 |
|
chris |
hang on ill find it in the one we are testing |
| 05:39 |
|
chris |
2 seconds |
| 05:39 |
|
Sylvain |
thanks |
| 05:44 |
|
chris |
http://opac.hlt.katipo.co.nz/c[…]etail.pl?bib=4069 <--- its not very complete at all |
| 05:46 |
|
Sylvain |
yes but there, you are losing the ability to know if an item is video, fiction or whatelse |
| 05:46 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 05:47 |
|
chris |
http://opac.hlt.katipo.co.nz/c[…]etail.pl?bib=4069 <-- thats why here, we have taken off the link to the marc info |
| 05:47 |
|
chris |
since on an opac, that will just confuse most people |
| 05:47 |
|
Sylvain |
ok. But when you edit biblios, are you using (or will you) marc ? |
| 05:48 |
|
chris |
wont use it, they may use marc for importing records, acquisitioning |
| 05:48 |
|
chris |
but after that, they will just edit it as normal |
| 05:48 |
|
Sylvain |
ok. |
| 05:49 |
|
Sylvain |
because there the infos that an item is a video is stored in biblioitems but not in marc_subfield_table ? |
| 05:49 |
|
Sylvain |
orelse how is it stored ? |
| 05:50 |
|
chris |
im not sure how its stored in the marc part |
| 05:50 |
|
Sylvain |
I really can't see how to solve my problem :( |
| 05:50 |
|
chris |
i havent worried about it too much, as its all going to change for 3.0 |
| 05:51 |
|
Sylvain |
I know yes, my only problem is a customer wanting a test version next week :) |
| 05:51 |
|
chris |
i think the problem is, some of the info from bibliotems isnt being stored in marc |
| 05:52 |
|
Sylvain |
yes and in biblioitems for example, there is the isbn which can't be duplicated in marc ... |
| 05:52 |
|
chris |
yeah |
| 05:53 |
|
chris |
essentially a biblio, needs to link to more than one marc record |
| 05:53 |
|
Sylvain |
yes |
| 05:53 |
|
chris |
but the way koha currently works, there is a one to one relationship |
| 05:53 |
|
chris |
unfortunately, i cant see any quick fix for it :( |
| 05:53 |
|
Sylvain |
and it makes me angry :) |
| 05:54 |
|
Sylvain |
it's time to lunch, hope I'll find a solution afterthat :) |
| 05:54 |
|
chris |
the biblio->biblioitems->items is a normalised way to represent the data |
| 05:55 |
|
chris |
and MARC .. for all it positives, is anything but normalised :-) |
| 05:55 |
|
chris |
enjoy lunch |
| 05:55 |
|
Syl-Away |
thanks :) |
| 08:49 |
|
dccpark |
hi all, i have a quick question about the bulkauthimport.pl script. |
| 08:59 |
|
osmoze |
hello |
| 09:10 |
|
hdl |
hi all |
| 09:15 |
|
Sylvain |
salut hdl |
| 11:42 |
|
hdl |
Salut Sylvain |
