| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 14:07 |
|
owen |
any Perl-savvy humans out there? |
| 14:07 |
|
genji_ |
-yawn- yes? |
| 14:08 |
|
owen |
Sorry, didn't mean to wake you :) |
| 14:08 |
|
genji_ |
you didn't So, whats up? |
| 14:08 |
|
owen |
I'm confused about a line of code that has an unfamiliar syntax |
| 14:08 |
|
owen |
my $title = $subscriptions->[0]{bibliotitle}; |
| 14:08 |
|
owen |
It's part of serial-issues.pl |
| 14:09 |
|
owen |
How does the [0] affect it? |
| 14:09 |
|
genji_ |
First item in hash array, field bibliotitle. |
| 14:11 |
|
owen |
Hmmm...so if $subscriptions also contains a value for subscriptionid, I should be able to get it by saying, my $subscriptionid = $subscriptions->[0]{subscriptionid}; ? |
| 14:11 |
|
genji_ |
think so. but, $subscriptions seems to be a multi item array. |
| 14:12 |
|
genji_ |
so you'd only get the first item. |
| 14:12 |
|
genji_ |
else, why put the [0] |
| 14:12 |
|
genji_ |
This is pure logic speaking. |
| 14:12 |
|
owen |
Right, I understand |
| 14:25 |
|
kados |
does anyone know why someone would want to display multiple MARC records side-by-side ... ? |
| 14:25 |
|
genji_ |
Comparision, for record merge./ |
| 14:26 |
|
kados |
ahh ... |
| 14:26 |
|
kados |
I guess Koha doesn't support this yet ;-) |
| 14:26 |
|
owen |
Sounds like a very specialized cataloging tool |
| 14:26 |
|
owen |
I don't remember anything like that from our previous system |
| 14:33 |
|
genji_ |
going offline for a bit. changing modems. |
| 14:47 |
|
genji |
and im back. |
| 15:04 |
|
hdl |
kados : Did you read thd's question ? |
| 15:09 |
|
hdl |
hi osmoze |
| 15:32 |
|
kados |
no ... missed it |
| 15:33 |
|
kados |
hdl: I don't see the question |
| 17:16 |
|
thd |
kados: are you there? |
| 17:24 |
|
kados |
thd: not really ;-) |
| 17:24 |
|
kados |
thd: do you have a pressing question? |
| 17:24 |
|
thd |
kados: what had wanted to ask me on Saturday? |
| 17:25 |
|
kados |
it had to do with ALA character support in Koha |
| 17:25 |
|
thd |
kados: had you wanted to know about MARC-8, ANSEL, ALA character sets? |
| 17:25 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 17:25 |
|
kados |
do you have any knowledge of these? |
| 17:26 |
|
kados |
are they covered in UTF-8? |
| 17:26 |
|
kados |
ie if we switch to UTF-8 will we have support for them or is it more complicated? |
| 17:27 |
|
thd |
kados: Library character sets preceded unicode for solving the same problem but they are not the same and not supported by common programming language functions. |
| 17:29 |
|
thd |
kados: however, there is MARC::Charset for the MARC 21 conversions. |
| 17:29 |
|
kados |
shoot ... |
| 17:29 |
|
kados |
Kkoha doesn't use MARC::Charset do we? |
| 17:29 |
|
thd |
kados: No, I was very disappointed :) |
| 17:30 |
|
thd |
Kados: Someone did not do their homework :) |
| 17:31 |
|
thd |
kados: This affects any non-ASCII character, even simple accented characters from French. |
| 17:33 |
|
thd |
kados: What I do not understand is why BnF is distributing records in ISO 8859 that is not a UNIMARC character set. |
| 17:36 |
|
kados |
hmmm ... |
| 17:37 |
|
kados |
It would be very nice if we could get MARC-8, ANSEL and ALA char sets supported in the display |
| 17:37 |
|
kados |
I suppose it would be hard to get all of them to display at the same time eh? |
| 17:37 |
|
kados |
we need a charset expert |
| 17:37 |
|
thd |
kados: Encode::MAB2 will convert from ISO 5426 one way only for UNIMARC. |
| 17:37 |
|
kados |
or someone needs to become one ;-) |
| 17:37 |
|
kados |
ooh ... that sounds nice |
| 17:37 |
|
thd |
kados: I have become one |
| 17:38 |
|
rach |
:-) |
| 17:38 |
|
thd |
kados: almost |
| 17:38 |
|
kados |
thd: do you think you could get MARC-8, ANSEl and ALA working in Koha? |
| 17:40 |
|
thd |
kados: I intend to. A conversion is necessary whatever the record has to UTF-8 in Koha. |
| 17:41 |
|
kados |
sweet |
| 17:41 |
|
thd |
kados: Then for the record editor and OPAC the conversion should go out in ISO 8859 |
| 17:42 |
|
thd |
kados: OPAC clients cannot be expected to have UTF-8 support and even record editor clients have a problem. |
| 17:44 |
|
thd |
kados: If your library is running MS Windows for the client browser then there is no UTF-8 support ,only UTF-16, which is a problem unless everything can be converted to ISO 8859 going out.. |
| 17:45 |
|
thd |
kados: You do not want to mess with UTF-16 just to support a non-free OS. UTF-16 introduces complications. |
| 17:46 |
|
thd |
kados: Queries coming back from the client have to be converted back to UTF-8 for Koha. |
| 17:49 |
|
kados |
gotcha |
| 17:49 |
|
thd |
kados: Of course if the script is not supported in an ISO 8559 encoding then the client must support UTF-8 which means no MS Windows for the Chinese users unless someone is willing to cope with the complications of UTF-16 conversion. |
| 17:50 |
|
kados |
thd: here's a question for you about MARC ... should there by system limitations on the number or length of records and fields(e.g., notes fields in order or MARC records)? |
| 17:51 |
|
thd |
kados: YAZ also has character set conversions. However, I have found a very bad bug in the MARC-8 to ISO 8859 conversion for YAZ. When encountered, the remainder of the record is eaten :) |
| 17:53 |
|
thd |
kados: If the record approaches the limit for maximum size, which apparently you found then records should be converted to MARC XML before a danger threshold is reached. |
| 17:56 |
|
thd |
kados: I do not know the parameters for reaching the danger threshold. You would need a real MARC expert for that, aside from much experimentation to see what happens when building records with known test characteristics. I could enquire from some people who may know. |
| 17:58 |
|
thd |
kados: Very early this morning, I posted some questions to hdl about some confusing language for a few features in the Koha roadmap. |
| 17:59 |
|
thd |
kados: most of the roadmap feature descriptions seem as if they have some Babelfish problems in translation to English, but three had me baffled. |
| 18:01 |
|
thd |
kados: Did paul write most of the roadmap descriptions? hdl was unable to answer my confusion, he seemed to defer to you. |
| 18:03 |
|
thd |
Kados, Keeper of the Roadmap |
| 18:07 |
|
thd |
kados: are you still with us? |
| 07:01 |
|
osmoze |
paul_away> quand t es par la, tu peux me biper stp :) |
| 08:09 |
|
Sylvain |
hi |
| 11:04 |
|
hdl |
hi |
| 11:05 |
|
hdl |
Sylvain : have you found answers ? |
| 11:43 |
|
hdl |
am I alone ? |
