| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:44 |
|
owen |
indradg, are you around? |
| 12:45 |
|
indradg |
owen: hi |
| 12:45 |
|
owen |
Joshua asked me for help in writing a templating guide, but haven't gotten around to it. |
| 12:46 |
|
indradg |
ok |
| 12:46 |
|
owen |
Did you have some ideas? It sounded like you were interested in the topic. |
| 12:47 |
|
indradg |
yes I was... simply reason... ppl (read lib) here think that the default themes and templates are all that can be |
| 12:47 |
|
indradg |
I encountered 2 cases where things werent arranged like their current proprietory soln... so they simply wrote off Koha for that |
| 12:48 |
|
owen |
So the best templating guide would be one that concentrated on the HTML aspect rather than Perl + HTML |
| 12:48 |
|
indradg |
right! my idea too |
| 12:49 |
|
indradg |
these ppl aren't developers (perl hackers) but some of them maintain web pages so familiar with HTML |
| 12:49 |
|
indradg |
and Dreamweaver |
| 12:49 |
|
indradg |
;-) |
| 12:49 |
|
owen |
A guide would probably have to start with a description of HTML::Template basics, like TMPL_VAR and TMPL_LOOP |
| 12:50 |
|
owen |
Anyone who tries to use Dreamweaver on a tmpl file is in for trouble! |
| 12:50 |
|
indradg |
yeah :P |
| 12:51 |
|
owen |
I have a talk recently to a group of librarians on the subject of standards in web development and hardly any of them knew HTML. |
| 12:52 |
|
indradg |
out here in india -- nearly all graduates do a "computer course" in which basic HTML is de-rigour |
| 12:52 |
|
owen |
I think that's the case with American library schools right now, but not in the past, of course. And many of these people never went to library school. |
| 12:54 |
|
indradg |
I was thinking that in the HOWTO to include a step-by-step example of modifying the tmpl files... most ppl are looking for example code to copy and try their own combinations on that |
| 12:58 |
|
owen |
The hardest part of making changes to an existing template is understanding the structure of the existing one. The CSS-based templates will be even more difficult for folks who aren't used to that kind of markup. |
| 13:11 |
|
owen |
I've created a heading on the wiki for a templating manual. |
| 13:11 |
|
owen |
There's nothing there yet, though: http://www.saas.nsw.edu.au/koh[…]=TemplatingManaul |
| 13:12 |
|
indradg |
gee thanks! I will start on the first structure this weekend |
| 13:13 |
|
indradg |
right now busy on a few projects nearing closure |
| 13:14 |
|
indradg |
or u can add some of ur thoughts and then maybe we both can keep adding to it |
| 13:14 |
|
owen |
That sounds good. |
| 13:45 |
|
owen |
paul, if you're around I have a question for you |
| 14:15 |
|
owen |
Hi essemm |
| 14:16 |
|
essemm |
owen: hi |
| 15:28 |
|
indradg |
rach: hi |
| 16:05 |
|
rach |
hi |
| 18:32 |
|
kados |
owen this problem is only with 2.2 right? |
| 18:32 |
|
owen |
Yes |
| 18:34 |
|
kados |
I seem to recall that the loops that implemented that whole series of questions were pretty flakey |
| 18:34 |
|
kados |
maybe paul's been working on them |
| 18:35 |
|
owen |
A lot of bug-fixing had been done to correct those problems, and there was just one remaining glitch (and a non-intrusive one) |
| 18:35 |
|
owen |
But now it's all been taken out. And circulation.pl hasn't been worked on in ages. |
| 18:58 |
|
kados |
hmmm those switches in Circ2 look pretty much the same to me |
| 19:30 |
|
kados |
owen your connection is pretty bad again today |
| 19:30 |
|
kados |
(according to my logs :-)) |
| 19:30 |
|
owen |
Yup. |
| 19:30 |
|
owen |
You'd better believe it! |
| 19:31 |
|
owen |
Kinda makes work difficult when it takes a whole minute to transfer a single file to the server. |
| 19:34 |
|
chris |
hey guys |
| 19:34 |
|
owen |
Hi chris |
| 19:34 |
|
chris |
owen, ill try to look at the circ stuff soon as i get a chance |
| 19:34 |
|
chris |
thats a show stopper for all our clients also |
| 19:34 |
|
owen |
Thanks. |
| 19:35 |
|
chris |
i know paul rewrote the circ code, he musta missed it out by accidenet |
| 19:35 |
|
owen |
yeah, and it's not something that comes up without deliberate testing |
| 19:36 |
|
chris |
right |
| 19:38 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 19:38 |
|
chris |
spam will always find a way |
| 19:44 |
|
kados |
hey chris |
| 20:43 |
|
tungsten |
hi |
| 20:43 |
|
tungsten |
can I just do an upgrade with a 2.0.0 install to 2.2? |
| 20:44 |
|
tungsten |
and does 2.2 support marc21? |
| 20:44 |
|
tungsten |
can I just do an upgrade with a 2.0.1 install to 2.2? |
| 21:31 |
|
tungsten |
when trying to upgrade from 2.0.1 to 2.2 I'm getting the correct error message /usr/local/koha/intranet/htdocs etc does not exist |
| 21:32 |
|
tungsten |
when trying to upgrade from 2.0.1 to 2.2 I'm getting the correct error message /usr/local/koha/intranet/htdocs200411171909 and htdocs200411131511 do exist? |
| 21:33 |
|
tungsten |
/usr/local/koha/intranet/htdocs200411171909 and htdocs200411131511 do exist? |
| 21:33 |
|
tungsten |
scrips and cgi have the same prob date extensions on the directory anme |
| 06:00 |
|
rach |
bonjour paul |
| 06:00 |
|
paul |
hello rach |
| 06:00 |
|
paul |
about the mail you send for bug in circ |
| 06:01 |
|
rach |
yes - I just sent that to you |
| 06:01 |
|
paul |
is it the problem owen reported as 858 . |
| 06:01 |
|
paul |
http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=858 |
| 06:01 |
|
paul |
? |
| 06:01 |
|
rach |
if it is just that then it's probably not a blocker |
| 06:01 |
|
paul |
i've found another one : you can reserve an item even if notforloan is checked for itemtype. |
| 06:02 |
|
paul |
i'm hunting. Should be dead in some minuts. |
| 06:02 |
|
rach |
oh that would be great |
| 06:02 |
|
rach |
I just thought it best not to get any more folks reporting the same bugs :-) |
| 06:02 |
|
paul |
(i'm speaking of notforloan problem. will hunt owen one just after) |
| 06:02 |
|
rach |
ah great |
| 06:03 |
|
paul |
i could release a 2.2.0RC1b today or next day |
| 06:03 |
|
rach |
that would be really good - I could do a news bit, and then people would have the weekend for a bit of a play :-) |
| 06:03 |
|
paul |
:-) |
| 06:04 |
|
rach |
we have another long awaited project going live tomorrow which will make it a big news day :-) |
| 06:05 |
|
paul |
pls tell me... |
| 06:05 |
|
paul |
(I've another important news on Koha) |
| 06:06 |
|
rach |
ah not a koha thing |
| 06:06 |
|
rach |
it is a content management/website builder |
| 06:06 |
|
rach |
- www.wcn.net.nz |
| 06:06 |
|
paul |
mmm... another one or you get involved in an existing project ? |
| 06:07 |
|
rach |
they give free webhosting for local community groups, and so we've done some work to make it easy for those groups to build sites |
| 06:07 |
|
rach |
um it is Kea - the one we've had for a few years |
| 06:08 |
|
rach |
so not a new one |
| 06:08 |
|
paul |
ok, I know Kea. And like it except it's really sloowwww from france... |
| 06:08 |
|
rach |
:-) |
| 06:08 |
|
paul |
my news is on Koha : 60km far from me, there is a library like Nelsonville (250 000 items, 6 public branches...) that want to migrate on Koha. |
| 06:08 |
|
rach |
yes I can imagine it would be |
| 06:08 |
|
rach |
woo - that is cool |
| 06:08 |
|
paul |
they will put 2 developpers at full time on Koha |
| 06:08 |
|
rach |
that is great news |
| 06:08 |
|
paul |
puls 1 project manager half time. |
| 06:08 |
|
rach |
wow |
| 06:08 |
|
paul |
(and a few money for me to help them) |
| 06:09 |
|
paul |
they need a lot of things like RFID |
| 06:09 |
|
rach |
that is great |
| 06:09 |
|
paul |
(/me not sure RFID is english term) |
| 06:09 |
|
paul |
what's really great is that they are 60km from my home ! |
| 06:09 |
|
paul |
they want to go to Nelsonville in January/feb |
| 06:10 |
|
paul |
and i'll go with them |
| 06:10 |
|
rach |
oh cool |
| 06:10 |
|
rach |
yay - road trip :-) |
| 06:10 |
|
paul |
(if nelsonville accepts us, of course= |
| 06:10 |
|
rach |
RFID I think is the same |
| 06:10 |
|
rach |
it's the smart tags in books isn't it? |
| 06:11 |
|
rach |
on = in |
| 06:12 |
|
paul |
smart tags ? if you mean a small processor to identify it by electronic machines, to avoid thiefs and help circ, then yes, that's it |
| 06:13 |
|
rach |
yep that's what I mean :-) |
| 06:15 |
|
rach |
well that is all really good news paul |
| 08:33 |
|
Genji |
hi all. |
