IRC log for #koha, 2024-01-18

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05:37 reiveune hello
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07:45 fridolin yellow
07:51 magnuse \o/
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08:26 cait good morning #koha
08:37 puphaus[m] Good Morning together :)
08:57 ashimema mornin'
08:58 krimsonkharne[m] hey #koha
09:44 cait oleonard++ # rebase
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10:08 paulderscheid[m] morning #koha
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11:46 tcohen hola #koha o/
11:46 oleonard \o
11:50 tcohen hm bug 35678 rings some bells... we've faced that on a few cases recently. And Emily is right.
11:50 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35678 is not accessible.
11:50 tcohen bug 35687
11:50 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35687 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Upgrade to 23.06.00.013 may fail
11:51 tcohen bad638578b6bb3d0913841bd71ab9fba220a529e
11:57 ashimema Good call
12:09 paulderscheid[m] Is the sane route to do renewals via Koha::Checkouts::Renewals::store? (22.11)
12:15 PedroAmorim[m] paulderscheid: look at koha/svc/renew if you haven't already
12:16 tcohen or Koha::REST::V1::Checkouts::renew()
12:16 tcohen hola PedroAmorim[m]
12:17 PedroAmorim[m] nice
12:17 PedroAmorim[m] same logic duped =D
12:17 PedroAmorim[m] endpoint looks great
12:18 paulderscheid[m] Thanks Pedro Amorim tcohen
12:18 tcohen someone had been playing with a script to render our libraries POD?
12:19 PedroAmorim[m] I have bad dreams every time I read CanBookBeRenewed in Koha code
12:19 tcohen yeah, just don't
12:19 PedroAmorim[m] think ashimema has been
12:19 ashimema Paul and I both had a punt
12:19 ashimema I have a stripped down clone of the mojo docs app
12:20 tcohen let's replace the current 4 years outdated perldoc.k-c.org site
12:20 ashimema It'll render POD for any module in the PERL5LIB path on the server it's running
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12:20 ashimema I'm at the dentist with the daughter right now.. but would happily work in that with someone
12:21 PedroAmorim[m] tcohen: yes please
12:22 ashimema https://gitlab.com/mrenvoize/koha-pods
12:22 ashimema That's where I got to
12:23 ashimema There's various options out there
12:24 ashimema I just tried that one first
12:30 paulderscheid[m] Thanks for the pointers, another footgun
12:30 PedroAmorim[m] it's redirecting to CPAN for me. I've commented the redirect line at KohaPOD.pm
12:30 PedroAmorim[m] it complains about path at my $src = path($path)->slurp;
12:31 PedroAmorim[m] I'm surely missing something although my PERL5LIB seems to be correct
12:36 PedroAmorim[m] nevermind, got it work
12:36 PedroAmorim[m] need to access URLs directly
12:36 PedroAmorim[m] like so
12:36 PedroAmorim[m] http://127.0.0.1:3000/C4::HoldsQueue
12:36 PedroAmorim[m] this looks phenomenal
12:36 PedroAmorim[m] proper koha dev docs, no way!
12:36 PedroAmorim[m] =DD
12:39 tcohen we should just build a docker image per branch I assume
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12:53 ashimema Yeah.. that was my plan
12:53 ashimema rebrand it a little, make a nice landing page so you don't have to go to URL's directly for the first page
12:54 ashimema I did wonder about other tools.. doing it more static page generator style..
12:54 ashimema but this was quick and easy to get going fast
12:54 ashimema you've pointed out it's biggest flaw already though.. needing to run multiple to get different versions
12:55 ashimema we don't version our modules.. just Koha as a whole.. so my initial though of trying to do it metacpan style needed a little thought
12:55 ashimema no idea how we'd get that
12:57 PedroAmorim[m] just my opinion: who is this for? mainly developers, right? how much active development happens on branches other than master, I wonder if we shouldn't focus on just master for now and perhaps consider other branches later? I mean, anything is much better than what's currently at perldoc.k-c.org
12:59 ashimema that is very true
12:59 ashimema I was thinking start with master only oo
12:59 ashimema too
13:00 tcohen people working on plugins might need to compare docs
13:00 tcohen but yeah, at least the main dev repo
13:04 magnuse would it be just for the modules, or for scripts too?
13:04 magnuse *perl modules
13:04 magnuse bug 35832 is a neat idea!
13:04 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35832 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, NEW , Add option to include an email signature on all notices
13:04 ashimema is getting it dockered and on your magic stuff hosted something we can work on together tcohen?
13:07 cait i think it's duplicate actually
13:07 cait but hadn't had time to look yet :)
13:07 cait maybe look for notices and includes in bugzilla
13:07 cait but I agree the idea, so or so, is neat
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13:13 ashimema I couldn't find a dupe cait
13:13 ashimema but I'm more than happy to be proved wrong
13:14 ashimema you can of course use News to similar avail though
13:14 ashimema but that wasn't good enough for them
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13:16 tcohen ashimema: sure
13:17 tcohen we can build it manually first, and then figure the right pipeline
13:29 magnuse cait, ashimema bug 30723
13:29 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30723 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Allow for notices to have custom header/footer includes
13:30 ashimema aha, nice one
13:30 ashimema OK.. well I'll submit to that one instead then
13:30 ashimema though it's vaguely different.. it's really just a superset
13:30 ashimema I have a plan too
13:30 magnuse the scope is a little bit different
13:31 magnuse :-)
13:31 ashimema using HTML customisation and then binding is_html and undoing the html in the plaintext case
13:31 magnuse next step is arbitrary includes anywhere in a template :-)
13:32 ashimema funny.. that's kinda where I started
13:33 ashimema should we require adding [% Signature %] into notices to make it display.. or always append it if NoticeSignature html customisation exists 😜
13:48 ashimema right.. for the POD stuff...
13:49 ashimema bug 35834 serves as a landing page for the renderer.. I'd love some help fleshing that out.. probably linking to/stealing from the how-to project Joubu started
13:49 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35834 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, NEW , Add a 'Contributing.pod' to the project as a starting point for developers
13:50 ashimema I'm thinking a proper 'Guide to contributing to koha' as a landing page for the pod thingy... with a basic module list included to help guide you around our classes etc.
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14:23 tcohen @later tell marcelr can you look at my new patch and complete test plan on bug 35819
14:23 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded.
14:56 aw-bib[m] hi! just as I noticed this behaviour and I am not sure if this is intended. the regular record editor sorts the fields by their tags. once I switch to the advanced editor this sorting is gone. this is an intended behaviour, right?
14:58 aw-bib[m] (I understand that the adv. ed. works on the data as it was supplied to the system.)
14:59 oleonard Should Bug 33568 still be "In discussion" ?
14:59 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33568 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , Use the REST API to display items on the biblio detail view
15:07 aude_c[m] aw-bib I have always assumed the advanced editor is presenting the tags in the order they were entered. But I have never switched from one view to the other on an existing record.
15:11 aw-bib[m] this is what I understand as well. there is nothing wrong with that, per see.
15:11 aw-bib[m] its just our current system mingled the tags at random at some point (afaik they assigned it to some hash instead of a tupel) while it didn't have any means to force a given order. (e.g. if you wanted toc-lines in some order you had to add them subsequently, if you made a mistake you had to delete them and key them in again...)  so I am pondering to add a sorting to our export before migration as in our case the source ordering most likely has
15:11 aw-bib[m] no meaning.
15:22 aude_c[m] Is the advanced cataloguing editor widely used in your organisation?
15:25 aw-bib[m] we are just about to implement koha. I admit that I kind of like it, but I was orignally trained on Pica and am a vi/keyboard-guy.
15:25 cait aw-bib[m]: I think Koha will keep the sequence of repeatable tags as you enter them
15:25 cait but will sort tags numerically in some situations (iirc)
15:26 cait subfield sequence for sure is kept as it has meaning in MARC21 and alphabetic is not always correct
15:26 cait like multiple 650 - you shoudl be able to sort this and it should keep it like that
15:27 aw-bib[m] I understand subfield sequences, I even understant nto to reorder severl fields of the same tag (e.g. for a toc). but what I have here is a tag sequence like [...] 008,  591, 338, 010, 490, 037, 040
15:28 aw-bib[m] (only in the advanced editor)
15:28 aw-bib[m] note that I am sure that our system stored the tag sequence that way (it always ordered at display, however)
15:30 aw-bib[m] https://www.desy.de/~arwagner/adveditor.png
15:31 aw-bib[m] (I tend to sort 001, 003, 005, 007. 008, 010 ...)
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15:46 oleonard Wow I thought I was mostly done with implementing WRAPPER for Bootstrap tabs and I am definitely not...
15:49 ashimema hugs
15:49 ashimema 🍻
15:51 magnuse oleonard++
15:51 oleonard I found this out while working on the upgrade to Bootstrap 5, which is going much better than I expected
15:58 magnuse yay!
16:04 reiveune bye
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16:07 ashimema awesome
16:42 cait bye all!
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19:55 caroline Is there a master switch to disable transfers between branches? Or is the only way to disable transfers completely is to uncheck all the libraries for all the libraries in "Library transfer limits"
19:56 caroline In a system with 16 libraries, it's a lot of unchecking to do... at least they only have two item types
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