Time Nick Message 05:37 reiveune hello 07:45 fridolin yellow 07:51 magnuse \o/ 08:26 cait good morning #koha 08:37 puphaus[m] Good Morning together :) 08:57 ashimema mornin' 08:58 krimsonkharne[m] hey #koha 09:44 cait oleonard++ # rebase 10:08 paulderscheid[m] morning #koha 11:46 tcohen hola #koha o/ 11:46 oleonard \o 11:50 tcohen hm bug 35678 rings some bells... we've faced that on a few cases recently. And Emily is right. 11:50 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35678 is not accessible. 11:50 tcohen bug 35687 11:50 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35687 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Upgrade to 23.06.00.013 may fail 11:51 tcohen bad638578b6bb3d0913841bd71ab9fba220a529e 11:57 ashimema Good call 12:09 paulderscheid[m] Is the sane route to do renewals via Koha::Checkouts::Renewals::store? (22.11) 12:15 PedroAmorim[m] paulderscheid: look at koha/svc/renew if you haven't already 12:16 tcohen or Koha::REST::V1::Checkouts::renew() 12:16 tcohen hola PedroAmorim[m] 12:17 PedroAmorim[m] nice 12:17 PedroAmorim[m] same logic duped =D 12:17 PedroAmorim[m] endpoint looks great 12:18 paulderscheid[m] Thanks Pedro Amorim tcohen 12:18 tcohen someone had been playing with a script to render our libraries POD? 12:19 PedroAmorim[m] I have bad dreams every time I read CanBookBeRenewed in Koha code 12:19 tcohen yeah, just don't 12:19 PedroAmorim[m] think ashimema has been 12:19 ashimema Paul and I both had a punt 12:19 ashimema I have a stripped down clone of the mojo docs app 12:20 tcohen let's replace the current 4 years outdated perldoc.k-c.org site 12:20 ashimema It'll render POD for any module in the PERL5LIB path on the server it's running 12:20 ashimema I'm at the dentist with the daughter right now.. but would happily work in that with someone 12:21 PedroAmorim[m] tcohen: yes please 12:22 ashimema https://gitlab.com/mrenvoize/koha-pods 12:22 ashimema That's where I got to 12:23 ashimema There's various options out there 12:24 ashimema I just tried that one first 12:30 paulderscheid[m] Thanks for the pointers, another footgun 12:30 PedroAmorim[m] it's redirecting to CPAN for me. I've commented the redirect line at KohaPOD.pm 12:30 PedroAmorim[m] it complains about path at my $src = path($path)->slurp; 12:31 PedroAmorim[m] I'm surely missing something although my PERL5LIB seems to be correct 12:36 PedroAmorim[m] nevermind, got it work 12:36 PedroAmorim[m] need to access URLs directly 12:36 PedroAmorim[m] like so 12:36 PedroAmorim[m] http://127.0.0.1:3000/C4::HoldsQueue 12:36 PedroAmorim[m] this looks phenomenal 12:36 PedroAmorim[m] proper koha dev docs, no way! 12:36 PedroAmorim[m] =DD 12:39 tcohen we should just build a docker image per branch I assume 12:53 ashimema Yeah.. that was my plan 12:53 ashimema rebrand it a little, make a nice landing page so you don't have to go to URL's directly for the first page 12:54 ashimema I did wonder about other tools.. doing it more static page generator style.. 12:54 ashimema but this was quick and easy to get going fast 12:54 ashimema you've pointed out it's biggest flaw already though.. needing to run multiple to get different versions 12:55 ashimema we don't version our modules.. just Koha as a whole.. so my initial though of trying to do it metacpan style needed a little thought 12:55 ashimema no idea how we'd get that 12:57 PedroAmorim[m] just my opinion: who is this for? mainly developers, right? how much active development happens on branches other than master, I wonder if we shouldn't focus on just master for now and perhaps consider other branches later? I mean, anything is much better than what's currently at perldoc.k-c.org 12:59 ashimema that is very true 12:59 ashimema I was thinking start with master only oo 12:59 ashimema too 13:00 tcohen people working on plugins might need to compare docs 13:00 tcohen but yeah, at least the main dev repo 13:04 magnuse would it be just for the modules, or for scripts too? 13:04 magnuse *perl modules 13:04 magnuse bug 35832 is a neat idea! 13:04 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35832 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, NEW , Add option to include an email signature on all notices 13:04 ashimema is getting it dockered and on your magic stuff hosted something we can work on together tcohen? 13:07 cait i think it's duplicate actually 13:07 cait but hadn't had time to look yet :) 13:07 cait maybe look for notices and includes in bugzilla 13:07 cait but I agree the idea, so or so, is neat 13:13 ashimema I couldn't find a dupe cait 13:13 ashimema but I'm more than happy to be proved wrong 13:14 ashimema you can of course use News to similar avail though 13:14 ashimema but that wasn't good enough for them 13:16 tcohen ashimema: sure 13:17 tcohen we can build it manually first, and then figure the right pipeline 13:29 magnuse cait, ashimema bug 30723 13:29 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30723 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Allow for notices to have custom header/footer includes 13:30 ashimema aha, nice one 13:30 ashimema OK.. well I'll submit to that one instead then 13:30 ashimema though it's vaguely different.. it's really just a superset 13:30 ashimema I have a plan too 13:30 magnuse the scope is a little bit different 13:31 magnuse :-) 13:31 ashimema using HTML customisation and then binding is_html and undoing the html in the plaintext case 13:31 magnuse next step is arbitrary includes anywhere in a template :-) 13:32 ashimema funny.. that's kinda where I started 13:33 ashimema should we require adding [% Signature %] into notices to make it display.. or always append it if NoticeSignature html customisation exists 😜 13:48 ashimema right.. for the POD stuff... 13:49 ashimema bug 35834 serves as a landing page for the renderer.. I'd love some help fleshing that out.. probably linking to/stealing from the how-to project Joubu started 13:49 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35834 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, NEW , Add a 'Contributing.pod' to the project as a starting point for developers 13:50 ashimema I'm thinking a proper 'Guide to contributing to koha' as a landing page for the pod thingy... with a basic module list included to help guide you around our classes etc. 14:23 tcohen @later tell marcelr can you look at my new patch and complete test plan on bug 35819 14:23 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded. 14:56 aw-bib[m] hi! just as I noticed this behaviour and I am not sure if this is intended. the regular record editor sorts the fields by their tags. once I switch to the advanced editor this sorting is gone. this is an intended behaviour, right? 14:58 aw-bib[m] (I understand that the adv. ed. works on the data as it was supplied to the system.) 14:59 oleonard Should Bug 33568 still be "In discussion" ? 14:59 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33568 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , Use the REST API to display items on the biblio detail view 15:07 aude_c[m] aw-bib I have always assumed the advanced editor is presenting the tags in the order they were entered. But I have never switched from one view to the other on an existing record. 15:11 aw-bib[m] this is what I understand as well. there is nothing wrong with that, per see. 15:11 aw-bib[m] its just our current system mingled the tags at random at some point (afaik they assigned it to some hash instead of a tupel) while it didn't have any means to force a given order. (e.g. if you wanted toc-lines in some order you had to add them subsequently, if you made a mistake you had to delete them and key them in again...) so I am pondering to add a sorting to our export before migration as in our case the source ordering most likely has 15:11 aw-bib[m] no meaning. 15:22 aude_c[m] Is the advanced cataloguing editor widely used in your organisation? 15:25 aw-bib[m] we are just about to implement koha. I admit that I kind of like it, but I was orignally trained on Pica and am a vi/keyboard-guy. 15:25 cait aw-bib[m]: I think Koha will keep the sequence of repeatable tags as you enter them 15:25 cait but will sort tags numerically in some situations (iirc) 15:26 cait subfield sequence for sure is kept as it has meaning in MARC21 and alphabetic is not always correct 15:26 cait like multiple 650 - you shoudl be able to sort this and it should keep it like that 15:27 aw-bib[m] I understand subfield sequences, I even understant nto to reorder severl fields of the same tag (e.g. for a toc). but what I have here is a tag sequence like [...] 008, 591, 338, 010, 490, 037, 040 15:28 aw-bib[m] (only in the advanced editor) 15:28 aw-bib[m] note that I am sure that our system stored the tag sequence that way (it always ordered at display, however) 15:30 aw-bib[m] https://www.desy.de/~arwagner/adveditor.png 15:31 aw-bib[m] (I tend to sort 001, 003, 005, 007. 008, 010 ...) 15:46 oleonard Wow I thought I was mostly done with implementing WRAPPER for Bootstrap tabs and I am definitely not... 15:49 ashimema hugs 15:49 ashimema 🍻 15:51 magnuse oleonard++ 15:51 oleonard I found this out while working on the upgrade to Bootstrap 5, which is going much better than I expected 15:58 magnuse yay! 16:04 reiveune bye 16:07 ashimema awesome 16:42 cait bye all! 19:55 caroline Is there a master switch to disable transfers between branches? Or is the only way to disable transfers completely is to uncheck all the libraries for all the libraries in "Library transfer limits" 19:56 caroline In a system with 16 libraries, it's a lot of unchecking to do... at least they only have two item types