IRC log for #koha, 2016-06-01

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01:37 mtj hey wizzyrea, i dont think there is any other way to fix, other than to drop/create the target db?
01:37 mtj ive bumped into the problem myself
01:37 wizzyrea blast, I was hoping that there was something tricky to be done.
01:38 mtj's the same problem you get loading any mysqldump'ed .sql file, (i think)
01:39 mtj the tables are dumped to the .sql file, alphabetically
01:39 wizzyrea[…]rce-foreign-key-c
01:39 wizzyrea aha
01:39 wizzyrea maybe there is something tricky.
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01:40 mtj ahh, good point there ^
01:42 mtj hmm, does a koha-dumped file not have the 'FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS=0' stuff at the top
01:43 wizzyrea not sure
01:43 mtj ... like a general mysqldump'ed file?
01:44 wizzyrea yeah they're there
01:44 mtj hmm, yep
01:44 wizzyrea so it's not that
01:45 mtj CREATE DATABASE /*!32312 IF NOT EXISTS*/ `koha_demodev` /*!40100 DEFAULT CHARACTER SET latin1 */;
01:45 mtj eww, latin1? ^
01:46 mtj hmm, did i miss some mysql setup on my dev system :/
01:47 wizzyrea well all of the data seems to have utr8 as character set
01:47 wizzyrea even if the default is latin1
01:47 wizzyrea f, utf
01:48 mtj wtf8..
01:50 mtj but yeah, same here wiz,
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04:37 drojf morning
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05:57 marcelr_greece hi there
05:57 wahanui salut, marcelr_greece
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06:26 * magnuse waves
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06:44 fridolin hie there
06:46 matts hi !
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06:47 drojf hello
06:48 reiveune hello
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07:05 eythian @later tell aliesha you're on the big screen, btw :)
07:05 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
07:05 mveron-away Hi #koha
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07:11 * magnuse waves again
07:11 magnuse @wunder thessaloniki
07:11 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 24.0°C (9:50 AM EEST on June 01, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling).
07:11 magnuse oops
07:11 magnuse @wunder boo
07:11 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on June 01, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
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07:21 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
07:21 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 18.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on June 01, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
07:21 drojf i will stay
07:21 drojf hei magnuse and mveron
07:21 magnuse moin drojf
07:22 drojf hi eythian
07:22 magnuse having fun?
07:22 eythian sup
07:22 mveron hi all :-)
07:22 drojf a little early for fun. but i will once i wake up
07:22 mveron Very interesting at the moment...
07:24 magnuse gah, looks like mysql was not running when i started apt-get upgrade, and now it's just hanging after the koha updatedatabase failed...
07:24 magnuse some of us have to work, y'know ;-)
07:25 drojf could you do my work too?
07:26 magnuse sure, right after i finish mine ;-)
07:26 drojf excellent!
07:26 drojf magnuse++
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07:27 drojf hi mape
07:27 mape Hello
07:27 wahanui hi, mape
07:27 drojf no idea who you are but you seem to be at kohacon
07:28 mape indeed
07:28 magnuse mape++
07:29 magnuse welcome to the #koha channel - this is where we have fun the rest of the year
07:29 drojf mape: where are you from?
07:30 mape I'm from Sweden, working as an librarian at Luleå University of Technology
07:30 drojf ah we spoke briefly yesterday i think
07:30 mape Where are you from?
07:30 drojf berlin
07:31 * magnuse waves from norway
07:33 mape you can also have talked to my college Ola, he did the Koha implements at our library
07:33 drojf ah you are here with several people? cool
07:34 mape yeah, we are 2 from Luleå, but the only ones from Sweden
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07:34 drojf guten morgen LibraryClaire
07:34 liw mape, god morgon
07:35 mape god morgon
07:35 LibraryClaire hallo :)
07:35 mape where are you from liw?
07:35 liw mape, Finland
07:35 drojf mape: are you staying for the hackfest?
07:36 mape I'm afraid not, but my daughter got birthday and I did't want to miss it
07:36 drojf it's funny how many koha-related children have a birthday during this kohacon
07:37 drojf soon they are old enough to have their own part of the conference
07:37 mape but my colleague will attend
07:37 rangi yay im finished
07:37 drojf rangi++
07:38 liw . o O (Koha Kids -- adventure and excitement in libraries for children and the whole family!)
07:38 mape LittleKoha =)
07:38 drojf liw: needs a theme song
07:39 mape my kids singing everything from Frost at the moment, any will do =p
07:39 drojf liw: do you plan to be around for all hackfest and we see when we do the workshop then, or should we set a day/time before?
07:39 mape liw where in Finland?
07:40 * magnuse stays at home because of his kid turning 4 today
07:40 liw drojf, I'm arriving tomorrow afternoon, at which point I will probably die from heat exhaustion. I'll be around until Sunday morning, at which point I will have repeatedly died from heat exhaustion. I'm loooking at ways to bring small ice bergs in carry-on.
07:40 liw mape, Helsinki
07:40 drojf liw: the conference place is cool. ;)
07:40 rangi we broke that marc hold in 1999 .. then we put it back ;-)
07:40 mape it's a nice town, haven't been there for years =)
07:40 drojf oh the hackfest is somewhere else, but i suppose it will be too
07:40 rangi i think in the library itself drojf
07:41 drojf yep
07:41 mape yeah but you get a check then you walk outside
07:41 mape chock
07:41 magnuse wow, git clone is taking like forever on this server
07:43 drojf liw: but i meant if you plan to hang around with the koha people all the time or see something else too ;)
07:46 liw drojf, ah, no plans either way, but I would love to sit in a cool, quiet bar or restaurant and talk about the wonders of the world
07:46 drojf the cool part may be a problem :D
07:48 mape bring lots of ice?
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07:58 drojf LibraryClaire: are you using the web chat thing to get here?
07:58 LibraryClaire yeah... :/
07:58 LibraryClaire need admin access to this pc to get a client
07:59 LibraryClaire i normally use a client back home
07:59 drojf ah ok. i sent you a private message but that may just not work
07:59 LibraryClaire ah i see it
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08:03 koha-performanc Hello, i;m upgrading system for koha to work with plank, when i install with linux 16.04 i get mysql 5.7 bug, i;have seen that bug had been fixed in koha 3.22.7, how do i get this version if im installing with packages from - echo deb stable main | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list
08:03 koha-performanc should it be unstable main?
08:06 davidnind koha-performanc: see[…]-June/045478.html - may help I hope
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08:19 koha-performanc bug with linux 16.04 and mysql 5.7 persist after installing koha 3.22.07, just now i got a little different error
08:19 koha-performanc Web installer › Step 3  The following error occurred while importing the database structure:  [Wed Jun 1 11:17:23 2016] DBD::mysql::st execute failed: BLOB, TEXT, GEOMETRY or JSON column 'defaultvalue' can't have a default value at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/ line 273.  Please contact your system administrator
08:20 koha-performanc this was with oldstable main install
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08:31 marcelr_greece talljoy++ and pianohacker++ for a great presentation
08:31 talljoy thank you marcelr_greece
08:35 magnuse kia ora benjamin
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08:36 magnuse hooray for making koha metadata format agnostic
08:38 eythian koha-performanc: it is not expected to work with ubuntu 16.04 at the moment.
08:39 marcelr_greece magnuse: you are not that happy with marc lol
08:40 eythian marcelr_greece: $ whois | grep -i 'registrant name'
08:40 eythian Registrant Name: Magnus Enger
08:40 marcelr_greece :)
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08:43 magnuse marcelr_greece: that is true
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08:52 magnuse talljoy and pianohacker: have you talked to Rurik/brinxmat yet? OPL will start cataloguing in rdf real soon now
08:52 pianohacker magnuse: a little bit. He may be demoing later
08:52 talljoy yes, he has been targeted.  We will be seeing a demo from him shortly. :-D
08:52 pianohacker s/may/WILL/
08:58 mape Anyone know any good, very small and fast linux distro based on debian?
08:59 magnuse pianohacker and talljoy: very good! do not let him leave greece before he has explained to you everything they are doing at OPL :-)
09:00 eythian mape: debian?
09:00 wahanui the operating system equivalent of rangi - straight up open source
09:00 pianohacker mape: debian can be trimmed down more than you might think :)
09:00 mape true, network install iso was very small
09:00 eythian yeah, start there and add the  bits you need
09:01 pianohacker mape: I did my first few installed leaving the default sets of installed packages, then tried one without them and was amazed at how small the result was
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09:02 koha-perf plank doesnt work on ubuntu 14.04, koha is terribly slow - 4-9 secs, then i install 16.04 and you say it's not expeced to work with koha.. this information really should be stated somewhere clearly..
09:02 koha-perf which version of linux is needed to work koha with plank without bugs?
09:02 mape ok try a minimal inst. of debian =)
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09:04 bag sorry about that Rurik - I really want to see the stuff you prepared.  Maybe we end early on one session coming up and can get you in there :)
09:05 pianohacker koha-perf: what version is apache now?
09:05 magnuse bag: i don't think rurik is on irc?
09:06 bag he’s not currently but just saying sorry somewhere magnuse
09:06 bag :)
09:06 pianohacker koha-perf: we're in an unfortunate position where we need a recent version of apache, but the most recent version of MySQL is a lot more strict
09:06 pianohacker so it breaks things :/
09:07 koha-perf Linux 16.04 comes with Apache/2.4.18 (Ubuntu)
09:07 koha-perf could there be a temp solution to reduce mysql security to pass all that data or something?
09:09 pianohacker koha-perf: you can try setting sql_mode = '' in the mysql server configuration
09:09 pianohacker koha-perf: I can't find a good guide, but I think it's /etc/mysql/my.cnf
09:09 pianohacker or somewhere close
09:10 koha-perf yup, tryging out that just right now
09:10 pianohacker mape: why are you looking to slim down debian?
09:12 mape need a fest version I can put on a usb drive, so I either can virtualise KoHA och boot from usb.
09:12 pianohacker ah, okay
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09:13 mape did try a debian xfde install, it worked great in Virtualbox, but a bit slower on usb
09:14 drojf mape: you don't need a graphical interface to virtualize koha
09:15 mape yeah I won't need it, but someone who's not so good at linux probably will
09:15 mape but a headless server and virtualbox would solve much
09:15 pianohacker koha-perf: I found a guide if you're having any trouble
09:16 koha-perf yes, it would be great
09:16 pianohacker koha-perf:[…]avel-forge-ubuntu
09:16 pianohacker except instead of sql_mode=ONLY_FULL...
09:16 pianohacker just put sql_mode=
09:22 pianohacker that's a circ every other second O_o
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09:26 koha-perf yes, editing mysql config helps to pass this error, thank you for assistance, now going to config and test koha with plank and hope it;ll help to improve performance :)
09:27 pianohacker koha-perf: excellent! glad to hear
09:27 pianohacker koha-perf: hi, by the way, I'm Jesse Weaver, a software developer with ByWater Solutions
09:28 koha-perf heh, after loggin in therese an error DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): Table 'koha_library.discharges' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Borrower/ line 32
09:29 pianohacker Joubu: have we looked at alternative serializations for fixing some of the L1 cache issues?
09:29 pianohacker sereal is packaged and allegedly super speedy
09:30 pianohacker koha-perf: odd...
09:30 eythian pianohacker: booking made it for caching serialisation
09:30 koha-perf seems like not all tables where created
09:31 koha-perf okei, using this workaround may create new bugs that can be hard to see, is there a known version of linux that works with plank correctly?
09:31 eythian I assume debian jessie works
09:32 pianohacker koha-perf: is it possible to recreate your database from scratch
09:32 pianohacker eythian: have you had any experience with it? performance, limitations, ...?
09:32 koha-perf yest database wasnt created becouse of mysql problems, so recreating it may result the same
09:32 eythian (that said, that error is a strange one that I'd look at closer first.)
09:32 pianohacker koha-perf: did you create the database before ore after you changed the config file?
09:32 eythian pianohacker: not sure, I haven't used it myself directly.
09:33 koha-perf changed confing -> restarted mysql -> did web installer once more from start
09:33 pianohacker :(
09:34 pianohacker koha-perf: do any tables exist?
09:35 koha-perf yes, but only about a half of the supposed number
09:35 pianohacker oh jeez
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09:37 pianohacker koha-perf: yeah, fixing this may be harder than switching to debian jessie
09:38 bag debian jessie does work
09:39 koha-perf oh, i havent recreated koha's instance after mysql conf eddition
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09:39 koha-perf removed and created a new instance helped, now i've got an intra web on
09:45 matts vegetarian cooking as example, nice, paul :)
09:57 mape_ drojf: down to 500 mg with a headless debian installation
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09:59 magnuse milligrams? ;-)
10:00 mape_ =p
10:01 mape_ if Linux was a medicine...
10:04 magnuse tcohen around? looks like the pootle server is down
10:04 magnuse and the documentation along with it
10:04 pianohacker I think it's pretty early for him
10:04 magnuse yup, i suspect so too
10:05 magnuse @seen tcohen
10:05 huginn magnuse: tcohen was last seen in #koha 21 hours, 20 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <tcohen> when is it held?
10:05 magnuse 07:05
10:05 magnuse @later tell tcohen could you get someone to give the pootle server a gentle kick?
10:05 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded.
10:07 koha-perf so thanks again for assistance, koha 3.22 with default setup on ubuntu 14.04 had a delay of 3-9 seconds, installing on 16.04 with modified mysql config file and plack enabled seems to work like a charm, pages load in about 1 sec :)
10:07 pianohacker koha-perf: yay!
10:07 pianohacker koha-perf: may I ask who you are, out of curiosity?
10:08 koha-perf i;m from lithuania, working on all IT problems in a vocational school
10:09 magnuse koha-perf++
10:09 pianohacker koha-perf: cool!
10:12 eythian koha-perf: excellent :)
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11:04 bag marcelr_greece:
11:04 marcelr_greece cool
11:05 magnuse @later tell tcohen never mind, the pootle server is back!
11:05 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded.
11:07 magnuse trying to search on 3.22.7 i get "Can't locate object method "fields" via package "DBI::db" at /home/kohaadmin/kohaclone/C4/ line 2673." anyone else seeing that?
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11:23 jajm magnuse, search works fine for me
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11:26 jajm magnuse, at C4/ line 2673 i have nothing but a comment, are you sure you are using 3.22.7 ?
11:26 magnuse jajm: thanks, something local then
11:27 magnuse jajm: yes, accoding to "about koha"
11:27 jajm ok
11:29 magnuse jajm: for me the line looks like this:
11:29 magnuse MARCFIELD: foreach my $field ( $record->fields() ) {
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11:30 magnuse i am running gitified, there might be some new patches since the actual 3.22.7 release
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11:31 jajm magnuse, only one, in, so that's not the problem
11:31 jajm do you have local commits ?
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11:31 bag welcome back talljoy
11:32 talljoy thanks!
11:32 talljoy good to be here
11:33 Joubu pianohacker: what's the name of the module you told me? Serialise?
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11:33 pianohacker Joubu: sereal
11:34 magnuse jajm: i do. and that patch is above this line. mystery solved :-)
11:35 jajm cool :)
11:36 magnuse btw, i really miss the second progress indicator of (the underlying script of) koha-rebuild-zebra, the one in the indexing phase
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11:39 bag it was me talking not NateC ;)
11:40 bag at the boston one
11:40 drojf the most freedom for non freedom
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11:49 * gaetan_B is trying to install marcedit on linux and it feels really wrong
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11:50 Joubu tcohen: Is bug 16582 the correct way?
11:50 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16582 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Passed QA , t/Price.t test should pass if Test::DBIx::Class is not available
11:51 Joubu I don't remember the problem with Test::DBIx::Class, it's not packagable, that's it?
11:51 rangi dangit i forgot to do my OSS != non commercial rant
11:52 * talljoy feels a comment coming in the Q&A
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11:54 rangi ahh he used proprietary in that slide, .. so that's better
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11:54 eythian gaetan_B: don't do it!
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11:55 oleonard Hi #koha
11:55 gaetan_B well i did, and now i have a marcedit screen with all the buttons filled with garbled characters
11:55 rangi hi oleonard
11:55 eythian gaetan_B: submit a patc...oh wait
11:55 gaetan_B i might have to give up on this idea, but if that means using a windows computer it will be complicated
11:56 eythian gaetan_B: what are you attempting?
11:56 gaetan_B the magic winisis iso transformation trick demonstrated by Rocio
11:57 eythian presumably .iso is just an ISO MARC file?
11:57 eythian does marcdump read it?
11:57 gaetan_B it is supposed to be an iso marc file, but yaz-marcdump cannot read it
11:58 eythian is there a sample file somewhere?
11:59 rangi you cant ask that
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12:00 pianohacker gaetan_B: how big is this file?
12:00 pianohacker slash can we poke it?
12:00 gaetan_B 17 Mb
12:01 gaetan_B i have a link to download it, which i can email to you
12:01 gaetan_B but i can't really paste it on irc i think
12:02 pianohacker gaetan_B: that works, thanks, I'm very curious :)
12:02 oleonard Ooh, cait is up in the big chair this morning
12:03 eythian gaetan_B: you need to write a module that can convert it to something useful and put it on CPAN :)
12:03 gaetan_B we'll see, if we can avoid writing a module, maybe we'll avoid that step ;)
12:03 pianohacker oleonard: am I in frame on the livestream? I'm very sleepy and worried that I'll pass out in full view of the world
12:04 oleonard pianohacker: Just stay awake during Q&A, that's when the camera pulls back
12:04 marcelr_greece pianohacker: any chance to pass me your presentatoin slides?
12:04 eythian gaetan_B: what does it actually look like inside, MARC-like or something else?
12:04 eythian maybe it's just compressed or something>
12:04 talljoy it should look like "marc"
12:05 eythian but iso2709 or something else?
12:05 pianohacker marcelr_greece: yes, I'm looking into getting them posted
12:05 marcelr_greece great
12:06 gaetan_B eythian: it sort of looks like iso, but with a maximum line length
12:06 gaetan_B i get a new line after every 80 characters i think
12:06 eythian ah, so perhaps just reforming at the breaks is all that's needed.
12:07 gaetan_B if we're lucky that will be the only thing needed in order to open it
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12:09 eythian a bit of sed should get you some idea of that's all that's needed anyway.
12:09 oleonard Oh wow, the old npl template!
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12:11 gaetan_B still not enough
12:11 gaetan_B i get a lot of errors, the sort Rocio talked about
12:12 gaetan_B i think marcedit had a small tool that takes care of all of those
12:12 gaetan_B aaah there she is :)
12:12 eythian gaetan_B: what sort of errors?
12:12 talljoy she's been reading my screen gaetan_B
12:12 talljoy ;-)
12:12 gaetan_B can i fetch your presentation slides from somewhere rocio ?
12:12 talljoy rocio do you have slideshare account?
12:13 gaetan_B eythian: (Directory offset 72: Bad value for data length and/or length starting (22500140\x0D005)) (Base address not at end of directory, base 385, end 73)(No separator at end of field length=3) (Separator but not at end of field length=17)
12:13 gaetan_B etc
12:13 talljoy that looks like carriage returns.
12:13 eythian I wonder if there's a weird offset
12:13 rocio I don't have an account, but I can upload them there. Does that work for you gaetan_B? Or do you want an email?
12:13 talljoy rocio i can upload them to my account and you can email pdfs also
12:14 pianohacker gaetan_B: oh, dear lord, there's no leaders
12:14 talljoy i think that's normal in winisis pianohacker
12:14 gaetan_B i don't have a slideshare account
12:14 talljoy this is only marc in appearance.
12:14 talljoy gaetan_B you don't need one to access the slides.
12:15 talljoy once i get them from rocio i'll upload them and she/I can send you a link
12:15 rocio Did the program download for you yet?
12:15 gaetan_B ok, you can email them to me at, or put them online and i'll download it
12:15 gaetan_B yes but i can't get it to work under linux yet
12:15 talljoy ACK
12:15 talljoy yah, i think you will be wrestling a pig to get marcedit to run on linux.
12:16 talljoy <- is from texas....sorry for the idiom
12:16 gaetan_B :D
12:16 rocio If you want we can do it on my computer?
12:16 gaetan_B that's a nice image
12:16 talljoy yes.  lovely isn't it.  lol
12:16 talljoy i almost went with an oiled pig.
12:16 eythian OK, I found someone's file on the internet. It's definitely close to ISO2709.
12:16 talljoy which is a popular event at the state fair.
12:16 gaetan_B actually there's a page on a website about using it on linux, where they tell you to read carefully the install.txt file you will get in the download
12:16 gaetan_B but there's no such file :D
12:17 talljoy ah!  that's a problem then
12:17 rocio How helpful lol
12:17 talljoy i have marcedit on this mac rocio and gaetan_B if you want to try this later today.  Or you can wait til the hackfest.
12:17 gaetan_B rocio: we'll try it on you computer at the break if you don't mind yes !
12:17 talljoy she left it at the apt
12:17 gaetan_B or at the hackfest yes
12:17 gaetan_B ah ok
12:17 talljoy sorry rocio i should let you type
12:17 gaetan_B it's not an emergency anyway
12:18 talljoy but she is on the phone.  and typing on a phone is like eating with your knees
12:18 gaetan_B i'm just taking advantage of the fact you are around!
12:18 rocio Ha!
12:18 pianohacker I kind of want to try to make a fix script
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12:18 pianohacker for catmandu
12:18 pianohacker gaetan_B: do you... catmandu
12:18 gaetan_B another beautiful idiom from texas talljoy ?
12:18 talljoy yes, apparently so.  lol
12:18 gaetan_B i don't, but i think we should start looking into it indeed
12:19 oleonard I did not know this HTML tag existed[…]HTML/Element/mark
12:19 eythian pianohacker: that would be a good idea.
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12:31 oleonard What is the name of the person speaking now?
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12:32 eythian gaetan_B: if you just strip the \015\012 then it starts to parse with marcdump, but everything but the leader is skipped, so presumably the dictionary isn't correct.
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12:33 gaetan_B eythian: don't spend too much of your time on this ;) i think we'll decode it very quickly on talljoy's computer
12:33 bag hmm perhaps we need a spot on the website for users groups to put some links and information to their groups
12:33 eythian gaetan_B: you're just tying yourself to proprietary software by relying on marcedit :)
12:33 talljoy bag you should comment on that
12:34 oleonard Ah, helpful camera shot of his name tag
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13:05 oleonard Hi waking-up people
13:06 oleonard nengard you got some nice shout-outs for your good work on the manual
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13:08 nengard awww
13:08 nengard :)
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13:09 oleonard nengard: During the "10 years of Koha in Greece" presentation
13:09 nengard I'll have to go watch that
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13:23 JesseM morning
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13:24 drojf matts:
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13:24 matts thx drojf
13:25 drojf i think there is no unimarc yet
13:25 drojf they accept contributions ;)
13:25 matts :)
13:28 bag morning jenkins_koha
13:28 bag morning JesseM
13:30 rangi bag:
13:30 bag nice
13:30 rangi and one for rocio
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13:33 oleonard Whoever the photographer is, they're good
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13:38 rangi yeah, its the people who did the video, professionals and really fast/good
13:40 oleonard Is anyone here at the current session? Is it just going to be reading a laundry list?
13:41 rangi i think its just a reading the list, people seem to be liking it though
13:43 grharry bad
13:44 oleonard grharry: ?
13:44 grharry the enhancement list
13:44 grharry poor
13:44 pianohacker it would be nice to have these as bugs
13:45 grharry no social media introduced
13:45 grharry no twitter
13:45 oleonard grharry: An enhancement list can be called poor only in relation to one's own wish list
13:46 grharry I am claiming it as poor regarding it's lenght not content
13:47 pianohacker what is this about?
13:48 rangi its what people entered on their registration form
13:49 bag alvet won a tardis
13:50 rangi heh
13:50 grharry :P
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13:52 bag ten bucks pianohacker misses it and catches a bus to the vergina - like he did in Reno
13:52 bag pianohacker++
13:52 pianohacker shhhhh
13:54 bag pianohacker: you should ask now what bus number to get at 10am tomorrow :P
13:54 grharry lol
13:55 pianohacker stay up too late working on a patch oooooooooooooone time
13:55 bag heh
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13:55 bag hey what’s up bgkriegel
13:56 bgkriegel Hi bag :)
13:56 bgkriegel watching kohacon live :)
13:56 bag ok time for us to find final beers :)
13:57 pianohacker ¡Buenos dias!
13:57 mveron Thank you all at KohaCon  :-)
13:57 grharry wow !!! too many people using windows ....
13:57 grharry :P
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14:20 tcohen @wunder cordoba argentina
14:20 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Valle Escondido, Cordoba, Argentina, Córdoba, Argentina is 9.5°C (11:19 AM ART on June 01, 2016). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
14:21 tcohen #koha: UNC had a major outage yesterday due to a storage server failure, that's why translate was down (and so some jenkins nodes), everything is supposed to be up and running again, please let us know
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14:30 oleonard @wunder 45701
14:30 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is 30.0°C (10:30 AM EDT on June 01, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
14:31 oleonard Summer has definitely arrived here.
14:36 nengard @wunder 78754
14:36 huginn nengard: The current temperature in North Acres, Austin, Texas is 24.9°C (9:26 AM CDT on June 01, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising). Flash Flood Watch in effect through Friday morning...
14:36 nengard it's cooler here!!
14:39 oleonard nengard: especially when you're under water?
14:39 nengard well ... yeah
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15:00 talljoy @later tell gaeten_b[…]rizes-entire.html
15:00 huginn talljoy: The operation succeeded.
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15:00 reiveune bye
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16:46 oleonard The alternative KohaCon16 taking place in oleonard's office is going well, but attendance is very low.
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16:48 nengard heh
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17:00 circ-user-favsE hello, i have koha install on VPS with ip
17:00 circ-user-favsE i would like to enable send mail for notification so how can i do that ?
17:00 circ-user-favsE help please
17:00 wahanui help is at if no-one here can help.
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18:17 mveron Good evening / daytime #koha
18:18 oleonard Hi mveron
18:18 mveron oleonard: Hi! And thanks for the comments on 16540 :-)
18:19 * mveron ...used to say please please as kid when he wanted to get an icecream...
18:21 oleonard :)
18:32 mveron oleonard: We have two occurences of "don't" and several occurences of "do not" in I think that could be streamlined - but what version would be better?
18:32 mveron Examples: "If you do not have a CAS account..." and "If you don't have a library card..."
18:34 oleonard mveron: I think if you're talking about sentences which are so similar, you can't pick whichever is more common and make them alike. However, I wouldn't suggest replacing /all/ occurrences of one with the other.
18:37 mveron OK, I leave the "don't"s and the "do not"s as is
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20:49 eythian @later tell LibraryClaire remember that remote viewer your IT guy was using today...[…]omers-vulnerable/
20:49 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
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21:40 brdrgz Hey guys.  Can someone explain the versioning changes?  Why did 3.24 become 16.05?
21:40 talljoy it was voted on by the community.
21:40 talljoy and agreed upon.
21:48 thatcher makes more sense in the long run i think, since it's year.month versioning instead of "historical"
21:49 talljoy brdrgz i think it became obvious that 3. or 4. seemed arbitrary.
21:49 talljoy And YY.05 and YY.11 at least gave some meaning to the release - indicating when it was released.
21:52 brdrgz Ah ok.  The 16 referring to the year totally flew over my head, haha.  Makes sense now that I'm looking at the release schedule.
21:52 talljoy :)
21:53 gmcharlt Introducing... Koha 5776!!! (ERR_CALENDAR_NOT_EXPLICITLY_SPECIFIED)
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22:20 wizzyrea has anyone seen a thing where a catalogue running plack explodes when star ratings are enabled?
22:24 wizzyrea it's a bit odd, it just dies, with no error in opac-error, no error in the plack-error, but "internal server error"
22:24 wizzyrea but turning off star ratings completely fixes it for the results page, I haven't looked at the detail only view.
22:27 wizzyrea yeah it explodes the detail only view as well.
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22:29 wizzyrea Anyway, disappointed library that likes star ratings.
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23:41 wizzyrea are we really sending the surname, barcode, and reservedate to selfchecks when an item is on hold for another user?
23:41 wizzyrea that seems INSANE.
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