IRC log for #koha, 2016-05-31

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00:08 dcook wizzycray: Yeah, lots to do here, especially with the baby..
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00:51 wizzycray florent++ \o/
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01:54 dcook bug 16575
01:54 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16575 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Irregular behaviour using window.print() followed by window.location.href=
01:54 dcook @seen papa
01:54 huginn dcook: papa was last seen in #koha 3 weeks, 5 days, 2 hours, 8 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <papa> eythian: maybe time to go to bed?
01:54 dcook nearly 4 weeks, eh?
01:58 mtj hiya dcook, hope all is well in babyland, over there.. :0)
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01:59 papa hey hi there
01:59 wahanui bonjour, papa
02:00 dcook hey, papa. thanks for that sign off :)
02:00 dcook heya mtj :)
02:00 papa bonjour monsieur
02:00 papa my pleasure
02:01 tcohen hi dcook
02:01 tcohen :D
02:01 dcook hey tcohen :)
02:02 dcook tcohen: And what timezone are you in atm? :p
02:02 tcohen how's that dad-life doing?
02:02 tcohen i'm in argenitna
02:02 tcohen so, GMT-3
02:02 tcohen America/Argentina/Cordoba
02:02 tcohen ^^^ that's my tz
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02:04 talljoy morning!
02:04 talljoy jetlag--
02:10 tcohen hi talljoy!
02:10 talljoy hi tchohen
02:10 talljoy blarg
02:10 talljoy tcohen
02:10 tcohen you shouldn't give bag wine when he's about to type version numbers
02:10 tcohen :-P
02:11 tcohen talljoy: so you have your hair long?
02:11 talljoy not too long.  but longer than it was in Argentina.
02:11 talljoy it was pretty short then.
02:11 tcohen heh
02:13 dcook tcohen: Wasn't sure if you were in greece or not!
02:13 * dcook is so jealous of talljoy's photos
02:13 * tcohen too
02:13 dcook I was just in Greece in 2014, but wish I was there again..
02:13 dcook I missed Kohacon14 for Greece actually :p
02:13 dcook now I missed Kohacon16 for... baby?
02:13 * dcook supposes he can't complain
02:13 talljoy ikr.
02:13 talljoy really.  babies.
02:13 talljoy heh
02:14 dcook Baaabiiiies!
02:14 talljoy :D
02:14 dcook I wonder if Ripley has outgrown their Koha onesie...
02:14 talljoy how many months old now?
02:14 dcook Mmm a bit over 3
02:14 dcook They look huge though
02:15 talljoy okay.  yes, they grow fast that first year.  right tcohen?
02:15 dcook I think they were 97th percentile for height at birth O_O
02:15 dcook Tall and skinny like their dad :)
02:15 talljoy wow!
02:15 dcook Hopefully not too tall.. I think I'm 6'2" and I struggle with legroom on planes :p
02:16 talljoy then expect a tall teenager.  they will be taller than you in about 14 years!
02:16 talljoy and yes.  planes are the worst if you have long legs.
02:16 talljoy <- 6'0
02:16 dcook How tall are your kids, talljoy?
02:16 dcook I think I was taller than my dad and he taller than his dad
02:16 talljoy 6.0 and 6.2 currently
02:16 talljoy 15 and 16 years old
02:17 dcook Food must not last long around there :p
02:17 tcohen talljoy: you are right, Manuel is really tall now
02:17 talljoy no.  it disappears REALLY fast.
02:17 dcook tcohen: Did you post a photo of Manuel recently?
02:17 talljoy i just try to keep my hands out of the way of their mouths
02:17 dcook hehe
02:17 dcook I can't wait to compete with Ripley to see who can eat more..
02:17 tcohen i think Cecilia tagged me in a couple yesterday :-D
02:18 dcook tcohen: I think the last time I saw a photo of Manuel was when he was born!
02:18 tcohen he looks like a bigger boy, but he's only 1 1/2 yr
02:18 dcook What day was he born? I keep thinking Dec 6th, but maybe it was just Dec 6 in Oz..
02:18 * tcohen is not sure how to share a facebook post here
02:18 tcohen it was Dec 5th
02:18 tcohen :-D
02:19 dcook Ah, that's it
02:19 dcook My mum was born Dec 6th
02:19 kathryn Oh are we talking about our beloved children, I'm qualified!
02:19 dcook And I remember linking the two when I found out your news
02:19 dcook hehe
02:20 talljoy kathryn tell us about yours.
02:20 tcohen
02:20 tcohen thats' on facebook with better resolution anyway
02:20 tcohen you three have access
02:20 tcohen hehe
02:21 dcook Ah, yes! That's the photo I saw!
02:21 dcook Handsome! So much bigger than the baby photo!
02:21 kathryn hi talljoy :) she's 17 months, Frida! One month younger than tcohen's wee one
02:21 talljoy fun age!
02:21 kathryn superfun
02:21 tcohen really funny
02:22 talljoy mostly spent chasing them around if I recall right.
02:22 kathryn apart from the teeth
02:22 tcohen they are discovering the world
02:22 talljoy and personality and talking starting.
02:22 dcook :3
02:22 kathryn Frida says "whaasaaat??" al the time
02:22 talljoy HA
02:22 kathryn less often now, only when she sees something new
02:22 tcohen manuel is very phisical (is it idiomatic?) he kicks the soccer ball better than his dad
02:22 kathryn once she first said it she had to ask A LOT
02:23 kathryn ah yeah, I am amazed what they can do even when we didn't really teach them
02:23 dcook tcohen: that's cool! I'm so stoked for Ripley to be more active
02:23 dcook Well... until I want them not to be active :p
02:23 kathryn sitting down is something we can look forward to when they sleep
02:24 * tcohen has a solution for dcook
02:24 dcook hehe. I'd seen that one before
02:24 talljoy there is truth to that image.
02:24 * dcook is looking forward to bub sleeping
02:24 talljoy easier to contain yourself, than them.
02:24 tcohen I miss manuel every day at work
02:25 tcohen talljoy: yeah, more realistic
02:25 kathryn my heart is starting to ache from this conversation!
02:25 talljoy i worked far less then, than i do now.  With teenagers, they smell so bad, I'd rather be at work.
02:25 tcohen hahahahah
02:25 kathryn hehe
02:25 talljoy and the angst and ennui!
02:26 talljoy well the ennui i kind of enjoy.  the angst.....not so much
02:26 dcook hehe
02:27 dcook I miss Ripley at work as well
02:27 dcook Always glad to give cuddles after
02:27 dcook Ripley does well to put up with dad angst :p
02:27 tcohen manuel now prefers his dad to go sleep
02:27 * tcohen melts down
02:28 talljoy sigh.....
02:28 talljoy kids, under your feet for a moment, under your heart for a lifetime.
02:28 kathryn :)
02:28 dcook hehe
02:29 kathryn I wish she wouldn't pull herself up by a handful of my flesh, though. I am not a handrail!
02:30 talljoy ahahahahaha
02:34 kathryn see, now i can wait to see her til I get home :)
02:37 * talljoy checks the scrollback to see how we got here.
02:38 dcook hehe
02:51 * tcohen heads to bed, have a good day/night everyone
02:55 talljoy good night tcohen
02:55 dcook night tcohen
03:05 wizzycray this looks interesting
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04:55 dcook wizzycray: I got a bad SSL cert for that one?
04:59 dcook TFW you wonder whether you should label a column "timestamp" and you remember that Koha actually does have code guidelines >_>
04:59 dcook Alas, it does not feature..
05:00 dcook I guess https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]2:_SQL92_keywords rules out "timestamp" at least
05:04 dcook Oh my... it turns out we defy that guideline quite often...
05:05 dcook 26 instances of a TIMESTAMP column named "timestamp"
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05:18 dcook heya wizzycray, you moderate the wiki, yeah?
05:18 * dcook waves to drojf
05:26 dcook Do we no longer have ""?
05:26 dcook Wait,
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05:43 wahanui is still running.
05:45 dcook Yeah, I eventually did a "find -name "update*"
05:45 dcook but thx :)
05:45 dcook Love the atomic updates
06:15 * magnuse waves
06:15 bag morning
06:16 magnuse bag: HI
06:16 wahanui hello, magnuse
06:16 bag :)
06:17 magnuse what's the greek? kalimera?
06:19 magnuse καλημέρα
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06:30 reiveune hello
06:30 wahanui bonjour, reiveune
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06:45 fridolin hie there
06:46 magnuse bonjour!
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06:47 eythian hi
06:47 wahanui privet, eythian
06:47 talljoy good morning!
06:47 wahanui the only good morning is a dead one
06:47 talljoy bah
06:47 eythian so true
06:47 dcook heya eythian
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06:48 eythian hi dcook
06:48 mveron Good morning / daytime #koha
06:48 eythian fancy seeing you here
06:48 dcook I pop up from time to time
06:48 dcook hey mveron
06:48 mveron hey dcook
06:49 eythian <-- dcook you should check out this band
06:49 eythian one of the guys from earlierAnathema
06:50 dcook Cool. I'll put them on now.
06:50 dcook Recommendations similar to Antimatter:
06:50 dcook Kiss, Paramore, Jonas Brothers
06:51 * dcook isn't sure how much he trusts this :p
06:51 talljoy hahahahaha
06:51 wahanui i guess hahahahaha is there someone else we should ask?
06:51 talljoy no beiber?
06:51 dcook talljoy: I could always try refreshing the page :p
06:51 talljoy don't
06:51 talljoy ;-)
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06:54 gaetan_B hello
06:54 talljoy good morning!
06:54 wahanui the only good morning is a dead one
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06:55 marcelr_greece hi there
06:55 wahanui hey, marcelr_greece
06:58 magnuse @wunder thessaloniki
06:58 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 23.0°C (9:50 AM EEST on May 31, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
06:58 magnuse @wunder boo
06:58 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on May 31, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Rising).
06:59 mveron @wunder Allschwil
06:59 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 13.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on May 31, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
07:00 marcelr_greece hi mveron
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07:03 drojf hi #koha
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07:04 bag hahaha!  it’s got ginny typing on the main screen
07:05 talljoy cute!!
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07:05 marcelr_greece ginny?
07:05 wahanui well, ginny is doing great
07:05 bag :D
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07:05 talljoy her typing was on the slide in the presentation
07:05 bag yes
07:05 bag sorry not clear :P
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07:32 Koha-performanc Hello, could someone advise about koha library performance? We successfully installed koha with sampled data, unimarc format, added a few books, connected with ldap,everything seems fine except the performance - browsing and searching,browsing opac or intra takes 3-5 secs to load a page, searching 7-9 secs, though server hardware and internet connection seems more than fine
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07:44 magnuse Koha-performanc: you might want to run Koha under Plack. if you installed with the debian packages, you can enable plack with these commands: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]lack_on_packages_.283.22.2B.29
07:44 magnuse hiya petter
07:44 petter hei magnus!
07:45 drojf ugh android
07:48 pianohacker hello
07:48 wahanui niihau, pianohacker
07:51 wizzycray Koha-performanc: turn off local cover images.
07:55 mveron 207 live viewers on  :-)
08:00 Koha-performanc local cover images are set to dont display
08:01 Koha-performanc our system runs on ubuntu 14.04 so it seems like plack has no effect
08:02 davidnind 207 - nice! (and it is coffee break time at the moment)
08:02 Koha-performanc if plack would really help solving this atleast up til 1-2 secs, we might try to reinstall koha in newer version of linux
08:07 davidnind Koha with packages is supported on LTS versions - Ubuntu 14.04, Debian 8 and 7. Still some work required to make Koha work on  Ubuntu server 16.04 - not yet recommended, you will have problems!
08:16 petter If plack has no effect I can't belive it's on
08:17 petter The effect should be huge
08:17 petter (but parsing of search-results is still slow)
08:17 petter all other pages should feel snappy
08:32 Koha-performanc as i found plack to give effect requires newer apache, so newer linux version, im gonna look into this
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08:39 pianohacker Koha-performanc: yes, the apache-shared-intranet-plack.conf checks for a high enough apache version. Which version do you have?
08:41 Koha-performanc 2.4.7 is the newest for ubuntu thursty 14.04, now im working on updating all of this, seems plack need apache 2.4.10
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08:49 bag talljoy++
08:49 talljoy :-D
08:50 bag always the hat on /me
08:50 talljoy ayup
08:57 bag hmm I’m stuck in a web installer on current master
09:00 wizzycray yeah there's a bug
09:00 wizzycray also a patch
09:00 wizzycray bug 16615
09:00 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16615 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Full-site SSL: always use SSL when referencing external resources
09:00 wizzycray no
09:01 wizzycray bug 16619
09:01 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16619 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Installer stuck in infinite loop
09:02 wizzycray bag ^
09:02 magnuse gah, i hate it when i write "protect marc" in bugzilla search to find bug 14957
09:02 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14957 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, eivin, Needs Signoff , Write protecting MARC fields based on source of import
09:02 bag yeah typo on my part - I think I will bump that past QA
09:03 wizzycray up to you :)
09:04 bag done
09:06 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16619 - installer stuck in infinite loop <[…]52637eb95a265308e>
09:06 wizzycray oarsome :)
09:07 eythian wahanui: marc is also <reply>I think  you mean Jurassic Marc, $who
09:07 wahanui okay, eythian.
09:13 wizzycray hehe jurassic marc. funny slide.
09:14 magnuse yay
09:16 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: DBRev up for Bug 16200 - 'Hold waiting too long' fee has a translation <[…]3b23a332a998ed6b1> / Bug 16200: Convert all existing expired holds accounttype to HE <[…]0ed39cb6a19737317> / Bug 16200: Make 'Hold waiting too long' translatable and give it an unique
09:17 bag oh yeah rangi - if possible - let’s get a picture of everyone together that bought t-shirts…  maybe right before lunch :)
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09:21 bag happy birthday thatcher
09:22 wizzycray you only missed it by 17 days, pretty close actually.
09:22 thatcher hai2u
09:22 thatcher many bdays upon you bag
09:22 bag HA
09:23 bag I hit THE thatcher up on facebook wizzycray
09:23 wizzycray he was just telling me ;)
09:23 bag I have it on my calendar now - so I get the notice :)  THE thatcher is famous in our household and in ByWater
09:24 thatcher how's the things
09:24 wizzycray lol, there's only one. like the highlander.
09:24 bag lol
09:24 bag things are good thatcher - I just finished my presentation - so thinking about beer ;)
09:24 thatcher indeed sir
09:24 wizzycray you should come over and have beer with us.
09:25 bag deal :)
09:25 thatcher all the beers
09:25 wizzycray we made it ourselves.
09:25 wizzycray just sayin.
09:25 bag all THE beers
09:25 bag excellent and right on Rea’s
09:25 thatcher it's shockingly drinkable
09:26 bag kohala++
09:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16532: Groups showing empty tables if no groups defined <[…]00f043b4403aa9e01>
09:26 wizzycray omg I just want this db upgrade to finish already
09:26 bag the HE one?
09:26 wizzycray HE?
09:26 wahanui well, HE is a dc
09:26 bag yeah I was afraid that one was going to be big
09:26 bag holding waiting accountlines change wizzycray
09:27 wizzycray oh, heh
09:27 wizzycray no
09:27 bag bug 16200
09:27 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16200 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , 'Hold waiting too long' fee has a translation problem
09:27 wizzycray this is a 3.10 -> 3.22
09:27 bag oh yeah - see you tomorrow :)
09:27 eythian wizzycray: who is that?
09:27 wahanui i think that is the bueaty of the plugins :)
09:27 bag there are a few in that group that touch all items
09:27 bag ouch
09:28 wizzycray and old_issues
09:28 wizzycray those are the ones that are the killers
09:30 magnuse thatcher!
09:31 thatcher magnuse!
09:31 wahanui magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
09:31 thatcher how are you my friend
09:31 eythian he's eating pizza
09:31 eythian everyone else is adding 10000 bugs
09:32 magnuse thatcher: good. busy
09:32 pianohacker cpanel made another perl JSON fork, apparently
09:32 * magnuse had pizza yesterday, so not today
09:32 * pianohacker finds while he's trying to upgrade catmandu
09:32 pianohacker why are there 5 major modules for a spec that fits on the back of a (large) napkin?
09:33 thatcher i'm playing antique banjo and on pager ^.^
09:33 bag a pager - that’s so 90s - so antique too
09:34 thatcher ikr
09:35 thatcher[…]129-1-3197233.jpg
09:35 eythian <-- thatcher, less than a year and you won't be on pager any more
09:35 thatcher ya we knew it was comin
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09:58 * wizzycray mutters about 'convert statistics to utf8'
09:59 magnuse utf8 - who needs it?!?
09:59 wizzycray
09:59 wizzycray I tease.
09:59 wizzycray it's just taking ages :)
10:04 wizzycray[…]37487278075842560
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11:32 pianohacker drojf/eythian: there's a nasty version problem trying to upgrade catmandu. Catmandu 1.0201 wants Data::UUID > 1.221, but you can't just grab Data::UUID, because Debian uses OSSP::uuid which provides Data::UUID, and the packages are built to explicitly depeend on libossp-uuid-perl
11:32 pianohacker I had to force-install my dh-make-perl created libcatmandu-perl package
11:33 eythian it's possible that catmandu will work with either, if so, that can be declared.
11:34 pianohacker eythian: I believe it should, but the explicit version requirement means that it won't work with ossp::uuid
11:34 eythian we can override that easily enough if we find it to be wrong
11:35 pianohacker I'm guessing you use something more sophisticated than dh-make-perl --cpan for making packages?
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11:36 eythian no, that's what I use
11:36 eythian but you can change what it makes
11:36 pianohacker oh. Time to read man pages
11:36 drojf hello again
11:36 eythian debian/control is where it's declared.
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11:36 pianohacker ohhh kk after the fact
11:37 pianohacker that makes sense
11:39 drojf pianohacker: we depend on libossp-uuid-perl because of SOAP-whatever which is used for the norwegian userbase i think
11:39 pianohacker yup
11:39 drojf but in the newer SOAP-whatever (have toi look it up) they changed it
11:39 drojf so that uses the new one, so we should switch to that version and change our dependency
11:42 pianohacker oh, thanks
11:42 pianohacker thought I had that
11:42 pianohacker drojf++
11:44 mveron "Translation is not easy without context" - that's why we should avoid sentence splitting bei tags :-)
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11:45 oleonard Hi #koha
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11:47 mveron Hi oleonard
11:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16525: Have cancel button when adding new aq budget <[…]b578f17ae80e46f8f> / Bug 16001 - Use standard message dialog when there are no cities to list <[…]6a4b30422ab473153>
11:51 drojf hi mveron
11:51 mveron Hi drojf
11:52 oleonard Hi drojf, are you happy with how the hackfest went?
11:53 drojf oleonard: i think it went good. some people said it did, and nobody compleined or cried
11:53 drojf and hi oleonard :)
11:53 drojf complained even
11:54 drojf all non-devs that stayed until friday managed to do a signoff in a dev install, that was cool
11:54 Joubu hi #koha
11:54 mveron hi Joubu
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11:56 Joubu pianohacker: did you get the answers of the survey?
11:56 Joubu I'd be great to fix some of the complains during the hackfest
11:56 Joubu some seem quite easy to fix
11:58 pianohacker that's a good point
11:58 pianohacker Joubu: no I haven't yet
11:59 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16450 - Remove the use of "onclick" from guarantor search template <[…]6ba248e8edf245cf6> / Bug 16511: Making contracts actions buttons <[…]1d598b60ac6aea46e> / Bug 16524: Use floating toolbar on item search <
12:09 pianohacker eythian: how do you then build the package after overriding debian/control
12:09 pianohacker ?
12:09 eythian debuild -us -uc
12:09 eythian or pdebuild
12:13 pianohacker thanks
12:14 gaetan_B that is one special afternoon
12:14 gaetan_B did someone understand what selida does ?
12:15 Joubu pianohacker: sent an email, cced you
12:15 pianohacker thanks
12:15 oleonard There is so much Koha stuff going on around the world which happens outside the "community."
12:16 * oleonard is watching the live stream
12:16 pianohacker yes...
12:16 bag it’s the most installed ILS in the world
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12:18 oleonard We all should think about how to draw more participation internationally.
12:18 rangi and make marshall wake up too
12:19 Joubu rangi: do you think you will have a spare slot in your talk tomorrow to talk about Hea?
12:20 rangi I can make room
12:21 drojf i don't think making users not go to the koha website is a great idea. (if i understand that correctly)
12:21 drojf *understood
12:22 oleonard I would have liked to hear more details about that
12:23 Joubu drojf: hum?
12:23 oleonard Did anyone see the link at the end of that last presentation?
12:24 Joubu
12:24 gaetan_B i think so yes
12:24 Joubu
12:24 oleonard Joubu: .pk?
12:24 matts pakistan
12:24 oleonard Thanks
12:25 Joubu the portfolio has broken link
12:25 oleonard Flagged as a malware site by OpenDNS :(
12:25 oleonard I wonder if they just have the whole country flagged :(
12:25 matts Joubu, and some "LOREM IPSUM" :)
12:25 bag :P
12:26 Joubu that's what I called 'broken links' :)
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12:26 bag morning tcohen
12:26 tcohen morning dood
12:26 Joubu tcohen: where are you?
12:26 tcohen hi Joubu
12:27 Joubu we waited for you yesteday night!
12:27 tcohen Joubu: at the office, in Cordoba, Argentina
12:27 tcohen :-P
12:27 tcohen what did you drink Joubu
12:27 bag THE koha - I love it :)
12:28 matts tcohen, tsipouro :)
12:28 tcohen hmmm
12:28 tcohen hi matts :-D
12:28 drojf Joubu: i thought he said something like that. people don't have to go to the koha website, they can just come to his company. but i may have misunderstood
12:28 matts hi tcohen :)
12:29 Joubu drojf: but... there is nothing on the website
12:29 drojf lol
12:29 * tcohen googled for it, and is intrigued
12:29 drojf tcohen: by tsipouro?
12:29 drojf it's great
12:29 tcohen yup
12:29 drojf i could use some now
12:29 drojf heh
12:30 bag me too
12:30 matts ^^
12:30 * tcohen heads downtown immediately trying to find some tsipouro
12:30 oleonard The OPAC prog template returns to haunt me
12:30 drojf tcohen: in german ouzo is common, i could not find any tsipouro
12:30 * Joubu prefers ouzo
12:30 * drojf prefers tsipouro
12:31 * matts likes both
12:31 tcohen is dobrica with you?
12:31 Joubu no
12:31 Joubu @seen dpavlin
12:31 huginn Joubu: dpavlin was last seen in #koha 1 year, 12 weeks, 2 days, 21 hours, 15 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <dpavlin> hooray for everybody involved!
12:31 drojf but he said to say hi. i asked if he'd come to berlin. no time unfortunately
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12:35 drojf where are people staying in marseille?
12:35 bag I’ll probably do an Airbnb
12:36 Joubu there is a quite bad hotel close to the office
12:36 Joubu but I think many try to avoid this one
12:36 drojf that sounds… i don't know :D
12:36 Joubu there are lot of others on the old harbour
12:36 bag I stayed there once I think - I agree
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12:37 drojf ok i'll wait for somebody to choose something
12:37 drojf i made the choice for greece, that#s enough :D
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12:39 Joubu drojf: info from the last one[…]a8PmAY/edit#gid=1
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12:40 tcohen god, this is like eating an asado in front of a toothless guy
12:40 tcohen stop it!
12:40 tcohen enjoyo kohacon now
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12:42 * oleonard claps
12:42 tcohen thanks
12:42 tcohen hehe
12:42 bag if I was toothless tcohen I’d still figure out a way to enjoy an asado
12:42 bag I’d bring a blender
12:42 bag :P
12:42 tcohen yeah, that's what i was thinking
12:44 bag oleonard: you should watch my presentation - I actually talk to the audience at home :P
12:44 tcohen when is it held?
12:46 oleonard bag: The international fund talk?
12:51 oleonard Uh oh, ByWater demo site is down
12:53 kidclamp fixed oleonard
12:53 nengard kidclamp++
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13:29 bag yes oleonard the international fund
13:30 bag NateC?
13:30 wahanui I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE
13:31 NateC HA still true!
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13:54 * oleonard trying to recognize everyone based on the backs of their heads
13:54 * mveron they could turn and wave to the camera...
13:54 marcelr_greece they could..
13:55 mveron :-)
13:55 pianohacker oleonard: I just did, I'm on the left
13:55 pianohacker I have a thing sticking out of my head
13:55 pianohacker you should recognize the borg implant :P
13:55 marcelr_greece o is it an implant
13:56 oleonard Where are the pan controls on this video?
13:56 marcelr_greece i am in the same row
13:56 gaetan_B did you see me picking my nose?
13:56 bag I am the only one with a hat on ;)
13:57 oleonard You are easy to spot, bag
13:57 * bag waves
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14:00 eythian who is the one about to drop an ice cube down pianohacker's neck?
14:00 * eythian made him look
14:00 pianohacker did a massive double take
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14:05 drojf oh, no stream in firefox for me, i forgot
14:05 Joubu It took me 2 years to make the MarcFieldsToOrder patch in, and now everybody is using it
14:05 Joubu would have been easier to tell me it was great before :)
14:07 drojf i made a wiki page for the hackfest, maybe we can fill it with some life?
14:08 drojf https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ohacon16/Hackfest
14:09 drojf i want to take part in packaging, i think that has very limited resources. liw said up to 6 people, more with help. eythian would help, don't know to how many more people that translates now
14:09 drojf so i have put it not up there so far
14:09 drojf i would like to see as many devs as possible do that :)
14:10 drojf not really something for librarians anyway
14:12 drojf it would be good to have somebody who does a session about sandboxes. paul_p will do a presentation as far as i understand, so they could use it in practise at the hackfest
14:12 paul_p drojf no no no !!!
14:12 drojf what?
14:12 paul_p drojf I didn't say "yes" to ME presenting the sandboxes. I said yes to SOMEONE presenting the sandboxes. And I prefer that it's not me.
14:13 paul_p jajm = maybe you ?
14:13 marcelr_greece drojf make paul_p do it :)
14:13 drojf paul_p: ah, i'm sorry. but i think giannis understood it that way too :)
14:13 paul_p drojf you're the 2nd one to tell me that, so it's probably true. But this is KohaCon, not PaulPCon :D
14:14 paul_p will investigate with giannis...
14:14 Joubu I did it for KohaCon14 so it skips my turn :)
14:15 drojf is that something that sonia might want to do?
14:15 drojf "want" as in "can be talked into" :)
14:16 drojf paul_p: lucky you that i brought it up :D
14:16 drojf i cant play the stream in chromium either :(
14:16 drojf now i actually installed that
14:16 drojf it says i need flash
14:17 oleonard Okay, who is going to carry the livestream camera around with them for the rest of the evening?
14:17 drojf oleonard: we are having a secret dinner, no cameras
14:18 oleonard :P
14:19 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16437 - (follow-up) Automatic item modifications by age needs prettying <[…]9d8ba8aab426496b2> / Bug 16437 - Automatic item modifications by age needs prettying <[…]2e96237a716ae436e>
14:20 drojf hm. whoever does the sandboxes can go to the secret dinner, right? eythian should do it :D
14:21 drojf oh damn i forgot to pay for the trip
14:21 drojf could somebody pay for me and i'll give you the money at the pub/dinner?
14:23 drojf rangi bag eythian Joubu and whoever is there right now :) ^
14:25 drojf or i will have to stay home. alone. while everyone is on the trip. :'''(
14:27 liw drojf, if eythian helps, the packaging tutorial should be able to take another 6. and if people work in pairs, that a total of 24. plus that's only for the hands-on parts, the listen-only parts can take as many as will hear me speak.
14:28 oleonard I wonder what you are supposed to do if you don't want to confirm a patron discharge?
14:28 oleonard Does that happen?
14:28 drojf liw: alright, thanks for the info. i think 12 would be fine
14:29 drojf liw: 80 people registered for the hackfest, but no idea how many will shop up, and certainly a lot of people that have no use for building debian packages
14:29 drojf *show
14:30 liw if people do the hands-on parts together in small groups of 24, I and eythian can handle six groups each, for a total of 288 pepole
14:30 drojf lol
14:30 liw if we can get rangi to help as well...
14:30 drojf i'd prefer to actually learn s0mething, which will probably not happen with small groups
14:31 drojf from my experience with similar things
14:31 liw I've found that 1  or 2 people per "group" works best
14:33 drojf i think i like 1 person groups best
14:34 drojf you have to keep in mind that a lot of people at the hackfest will not be developers
14:35 drojf (it would be cool to have 80 koha developers in a room though)
14:38 drojf ok nobody there, no daytrip for drojf
14:39 oleonard :(
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14:40 drojf i will do tsipouro day then
14:40 drojf :P
14:58 drojf ha. i can pay tomorrow.
15:01 reiveune bye
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15:04 oleonard Anyone here use the patron discharge feature?
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20:07 kidclamp can anyone get to the manauals on
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20:49 kidclamp tcohen about?
20:51 wizzyrea kidclamp: last I heard there was a datacentre problem for the translation server.
20:52 kidclamp thanks wizzyrea
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21:39 eythian wahanui: robots is <reply>
21:39 wahanui OK, eythian.
21:53 wizzyrea eythian: hahaha
21:55 thatcher well played
22:04 wizzyrea hey smart people
22:04 wizzyrea I have a recurring problem-ish (it's work-around-able) but it's annoying so maybe one of you will have a genius idea
22:05 wizzyrea so koha-dump, dumps out everything you need to get a complete db dump, that's great. It does it by table name, alphabetically. That's cool, until you go to import it into an existing database with tables - the foreign key declarations are all out of order, and it tries to create keys on tables that don't exist
22:06 wizzyrea so the import fails at aqbasket or aqbasketsellers
22:06 wizzyrea the work around I have is to do a very frightening thing, and drop the target DB, and re-create it
22:07 wizzyrea what might one do to avoid this problem and make it more seamless?
22:09 thatcher
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