Time Nick Message 22:24 wizzyrea https://i.imgur.com/xaBoIO8.webm 22:09 thatcher https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aHQnDTd1y4 22:07 wizzyrea what might one do to avoid this problem and make it more seamless? 22:06 wizzyrea the work around I have is to do a very frightening thing, and drop the target DB, and re-create it 22:06 wizzyrea so the import fails at aqbasket or aqbasketsellers 22:05 wizzyrea so koha-dump, dumps out everything you need to get a complete db dump, that's great. It does it by table name, alphabetically. That's cool, until you go to import it into an existing database with tables - the foreign key declarations are all out of order, and it tries to create keys on tables that don't exist 22:04 wizzyrea I have a recurring problem-ish (it's work-around-able) but it's annoying so maybe one of you will have a genius idea 22:04 wizzyrea hey smart people 21:55 thatcher well played 21:53 wizzyrea eythian: hahaha 21:39 wahanui OK, eythian. 21:39 eythian wahanui: robots is <reply>https://imgur.com/lj7B5sQ 20:52 kidclamp thanks wizzyrea 20:51 wizzyrea kidclamp: last I heard there was a datacentre problem for the translation server. 20:49 kidclamp tcohen about? 20:07 kidclamp can anyone get to the manauals on translate.koha-community.org 15:04 oleonard Anyone here use the patron discharge feature? 15:01 reiveune bye 14:58 drojf ha. i can pay tomorrow. 14:40 drojf :P 14:40 drojf i will do tsipouro day then 14:39 oleonard :( 14:38 drojf ok nobody there, no daytrip for drojf 14:35 drojf (it would be cool to have 80 koha developers in a room though) 14:34 drojf you have to keep in mind that a lot of people at the hackfest will not be developers 14:33 drojf i think i like 1 person groups best 14:31 liw I've found that 1 or 2 people per "group" works best 14:31 drojf from my experience with similar things 14:30 drojf i'd prefer to actually learn s0mething, which will probably not happen with small groups 14:30 liw if we can get rangi to help as well... 14:30 drojf lol 14:30 liw if people do the hands-on parts together in small groups of 24, I and eythian can handle six groups each, for a total of 288 pepole 14:29 drojf *show 14:29 drojf liw: 80 people registered for the hackfest, but no idea how many will shop up, and certainly a lot of people that have no use for building debian packages 14:28 drojf liw: alright, thanks for the info. i think 12 would be fine 14:28 oleonard Does that happen? 14:28 oleonard I wonder what you are supposed to do if you don't want to confirm a patron discharge? 14:27 liw drojf, if eythian helps, the packaging tutorial should be able to take another 6. and if people work in pairs, that a total of 24. plus that's only for the hands-on parts, the listen-only parts can take as many as will hear me speak. 14:25 drojf or i will have to stay home. alone. while everyone is on the trip. :'''( 14:23 drojf rangi bag eythian Joubu and whoever is there right now :) ^ 14:21 drojf could somebody pay for me and i'll give you the money at the pub/dinner? 14:21 drojf oh damn i forgot to pay for the trip 14:20 drojf hm. whoever does the sandboxes can go to the secret dinner, right? eythian should do it :D 14:19 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16437 - (follow-up) Automatic item modifications by age needs prettying <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e0143f3205ebbf07aa479b89d8ba8aab426496b2> / Bug 16437 - Automatic item modifications by age needs prettying <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=22b18ba988c72b6802421ae2e96237a716ae436e> 14:18 oleonard :P 14:17 drojf oleonard: we are having a secret dinner, no cameras 14:17 oleonard Okay, who is going to carry the livestream camera around with them for the rest of the evening? 14:16 drojf it says i need flash 14:16 drojf now i actually installed that 14:16 drojf i cant play the stream in chromium either :( 14:16 drojf paul_p: lucky you that i brought it up :D 14:15 drojf "want" as in "can be talked into" :) 14:15 drojf is that something that sonia might want to do? 14:14 Joubu I did it for KohaCon14 so it skips my turn :) 14:14 paul_p will investigate with giannis... 14:13 paul_p drojf you're the 2nd one to tell me that, so it's probably true. But this is KohaCon, not PaulPCon :D 14:13 drojf paul_p: ah, i'm sorry. but i think giannis understood it that way too :) 14:13 marcelr_greece drojf make paul_p do it :) 14:13 paul_p jajm = maybe you ? 14:12 paul_p drojf I didn't say "yes" to ME presenting the sandboxes. I said yes to SOMEONE presenting the sandboxes. And I prefer that it's not me. 14:12 drojf what? 14:12 paul_p drojf no no no !!! 14:12 drojf it would be good to have somebody who does a session about sandboxes. paul_p will do a presentation as far as i understand, so they could use it in practise at the hackfest 14:10 drojf not really something for librarians anyway 14:09 drojf i would like to see as many devs as possible do that :) 14:09 drojf so i have put it not up there so far 14:09 drojf i want to take part in packaging, i think that has very limited resources. liw said up to 6 people, more with help. eythian would help, don't know to how many more people that translates now 14:08 drojf https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon16/Hackfest 14:07 drojf i made a wiki page for the hackfest, maybe we can fill it with some life? 14:05 Joubu would have been easier to tell me it was great before :) 14:05 Joubu It took me 2 years to make the MarcFieldsToOrder patch in, and now everybody is using it 14:05 drojf oh, no stream in firefox for me, i forgot 14:00 pianohacker did a massive double take 14:00 * eythian made him look 14:00 eythian who is the one about to drop an ice cube down pianohacker's neck? 13:57 * bag waves 13:57 oleonard You are easy to spot, bag 13:56 bag I am the only one with a hat on ;) 13:56 gaetan_B did you see me picking my nose? 13:56 marcelr_greece i am in the same row 13:56 oleonard Where are the pan controls on this video? 13:55 marcelr_greece o is it an implant 13:55 pianohacker you should recognize the borg implant :P 13:55 pianohacker I have a thing sticking out of my head 13:55 pianohacker oleonard: I just did, I'm on the left 13:55 mveron :-) 13:54 marcelr_greece they could.. 13:54 * mveron they could turn and wave to the camera... 13:54 * oleonard trying to recognize everyone based on the backs of their heads 13:31 NateC HA still true! 13:30 wahanui I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE 13:30 bag NateC? 13:29 bag yes oleonard the international fund 12:53 nengard kidclamp++ 12:53 kidclamp fixed oleonard 12:51 oleonard Uh oh, ByWater demo site is down 12:46 oleonard bag: The international fund talk? 12:44 tcohen when is it held? 12:44 bag oleonard: you should watch my presentation - I actually talk to the audience at home :P 12:42 tcohen yeah, that's what i was thinking 12:42 bag :P 12:42 bag I’d bring a blender 12:42 bag if I was toothless tcohen I’d still figure out a way to enjoy an asado 12:42 tcohen hehe 12:42 tcohen thanks 12:42 * oleonard claps 12:40 tcohen enjoyo kohacon now 12:40 tcohen stop it! 12:40 tcohen god, this is like eating an asado in front of a toothless guy 12:39 Joubu drojf: info from the last one https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vXdsMuRxqbOMgn_4vip8VuNlkQzDp-p2_eo8Sa8PmAY/edit#gid=1 12:37 drojf i made the choice for greece, that#s enough :D 12:37 drojf ok i'll wait for somebody to choose something 12:36 bag I stayed there once I think - I agree 12:36 Joubu there are lot of others on the old harbour 12:36 drojf that sounds… i don't know :D 12:36 Joubu but I think many try to avoid this one 12:36 Joubu there is a quite bad hotel close to the office 12:35 bag I’ll probably do an Airbnb 12:35 drojf where are people staying in marseille? 12:31 drojf but he said to say hi. i asked if he'd come to berlin. no time unfortunately 12:31 huginn Joubu: dpavlin was last seen in #koha 1 year, 12 weeks, 2 days, 21 hours, 15 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <dpavlin> hooray for everybody involved! 12:31 Joubu @seen dpavlin 12:31 Joubu no 12:31 tcohen is dobrica with you? 12:31 * matts likes both 12:30 * drojf prefers tsipouro 12:30 * Joubu prefers ouzo 12:30 drojf tcohen: in german ouzo is common, i could not find any tsipouro 12:30 oleonard The OPAC prog template returns to haunt me 12:30 * tcohen heads downtown immediately trying to find some tsipouro 12:30 matts ^^ 12:30 bag me too 12:29 drojf heh 12:29 drojf i could use some now 12:29 tcohen yup 12:29 drojf it's great 12:29 drojf tcohen: by tsipouro? 12:29 * tcohen googled for it, and is intrigued 12:29 drojf lol 12:29 Joubu drojf: but... there is nothing on the website 12:28 matts hi tcohen :) 12:28 drojf Joubu: i thought he said something like that. people don't have to go to the koha website, they can just come to his company. but i may have misunderstood 12:28 tcohen hi matts :-D 12:28 tcohen hmmm 12:28 matts tcohen, tsipouro :) 12:27 bag THE koha - I love it :) 12:27 tcohen what did you drink Joubu 12:27 tcohen :-P 12:27 tcohen Joubu: at the office, in Cordoba, Argentina 12:27 Joubu we waited for you yesteday night! 12:26 tcohen hi Joubu 12:26 Joubu tcohen: where are you? 12:26 tcohen morning dood 12:26 bag morning tcohen 12:26 Joubu that's what I called 'broken links' :) 12:25 bag :P 12:25 matts Joubu, and some "LOREM IPSUM" :) 12:25 oleonard I wonder if they just have the whole country flagged :( 12:25 oleonard Flagged as a malware site by OpenDNS :( 12:25 Joubu the portfolio has broken link 12:24 oleonard Thanks 12:24 matts pakistan 12:24 oleonard Joubu: .pk? 12:24 Joubu http://fullstack.com.pk 12:24 gaetan_B i think so yes 12:24 Joubu fullstacksolution.com.pl 12:23 oleonard Did anyone see the link at the end of that last presentation? 12:23 Joubu drojf: hum? 12:22 oleonard I would have liked to hear more details about that 12:21 drojf *understood 12:21 drojf i don't think making users not go to the koha website is a great idea. (if i understand that correctly) 12:20 rangi I can make room 12:19 Joubu rangi: do you think you will have a spare slot in your talk tomorrow to talk about Hea? 12:18 rangi and make marshall wake up too 12:18 oleonard We all should think about how to draw more participation internationally. 12:16 bag it’s the most installed ILS in the world 12:16 pianohacker yes... 12:16 * oleonard is watching the live stream 12:15 oleonard There is so much Koha stuff going on around the world which happens outside the "community." 12:15 pianohacker thanks 12:15 Joubu pianohacker: sent an email, cced you 12:14 gaetan_B did someone understand what selida does ? 12:14 gaetan_B that is one special afternoon 12:13 pianohacker thanks 12:09 eythian or pdebuild 12:09 eythian debuild -us -uc 12:09 pianohacker ? 12:09 pianohacker eythian: how do you then build the package after overriding debian/control 11:59 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16450 - Remove the use of "onclick" from guarantor search template <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fdf4101fb17d8f45487a9ba6ba248e8edf245cf6> / Bug 16511: Making contracts actions buttons <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=23c8dc0e6384779c0eaf8441d598b60ac6aea46e> / Bug 16524: Use floating toolbar on item search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.g 11:58 pianohacker Joubu: no I haven't yet 11:58 pianohacker that's a good point 11:56 Joubu some seem quite easy to fix 11:56 Joubu I'd be great to fix some of the complains during the hackfest 11:56 Joubu pianohacker: did you get the answers of the survey? 11:54 mveron hi Joubu 11:54 Joubu hi #koha 11:54 drojf all non-devs that stayed until friday managed to do a signoff in a dev install, that was cool 11:53 drojf complained even 11:53 drojf and hi oleonard :) 11:53 drojf oleonard: i think it went good. some people said it did, and nobody compleined or cried 11:52 oleonard Hi drojf, are you happy with how the hackfest went? 11:51 mveron Hi drojf 11:51 drojf hi mveron 11:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16525: Have cancel button when adding new aq budget <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c4f17a6eb3e5688b1d1f3c4b578f17ae80e46f8f> / Bug 16001 - Use standard message dialog when there are no cities to list <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=89b41ede653227c5b4f777d6a4b30422ab473153> 11:47 mveron Hi oleonard 11:45 oleonard Hi #koha 11:44 mveron "Translation is not easy without context" - that's why we should avoid sentence splitting bei tags :-) 11:42 pianohacker drojf++ 11:42 pianohacker thought I had that 11:42 pianohacker oh, thanks 11:42 drojf [off] pianohacker: https://apt.abunchofthings.net/ 11:39 drojf so that uses the new one, so we should switch to that version and change our dependency 11:39 drojf but in the newer SOAP-whatever (have toi look it up) they changed it 11:39 pianohacker yup 11:39 drojf pianohacker: we depend on libossp-uuid-perl because of SOAP-whatever which is used for the norwegian userbase i think 11:37 pianohacker that makes sense 11:36 pianohacker ohhh kk after the fact 11:36 eythian debian/control is where it's declared. 11:36 drojf hello again 11:36 pianohacker oh. Time to read man pages 11:36 eythian but you can change what it makes 11:36 eythian no, that's what I use 11:35 pianohacker I'm guessing you use something more sophisticated than dh-make-perl --cpan for making packages? 11:34 eythian we can override that easily enough if we find it to be wrong 11:34 pianohacker eythian: I believe it should, but the explicit version requirement means that it won't work with ossp::uuid 11:33 eythian it's possible that catmandu will work with either, if so, that can be declared. 11:32 pianohacker I had to force-install my dh-make-perl created libcatmandu-perl package 11:32 pianohacker drojf/eythian: there's a nasty version problem trying to upgrade catmandu. Catmandu 1.0201 wants Data::UUID > 1.221, but you can't just grab Data::UUID, because Debian uses OSSP::uuid which provides Data::UUID, and the packages are built to explicitly depeend on libossp-uuid-perl 10:04 wizzycray https://twitter.com/CoolestLifeHack/status/737487278075842560 09:59 wizzycray it's just taking ages :) 09:59 wizzycray I tease. 09:59 wizzycray http://i.imgur.com/DD5IARx.gif 09:59 magnuse utf8 - who needs it?!? 09:58 * wizzycray mutters about 'convert statistics to utf8' 09:35 thatcher ya we knew it was comin 09:35 eythian http://www.sparknz.co.nz/news/paging-shut-down/ <-- thatcher, less than a year and you won't be on pager any more 09:35 thatcher http://www.hangoutstorage.com/banjohangout.org/storage/cphotos/large/73/7394-32129-1-3197233.jpg 09:34 thatcher ikr 09:33 bag a pager - that’s so 90s - so antique too 09:33 thatcher i'm playing antique banjo and on pager ^.^ 09:32 pianohacker why are there 5 major modules for a spec that fits on the back of a (large) napkin? 09:32 * pianohacker finds while he's trying to upgrade catmandu 09:32 * magnuse had pizza yesterday, so not today 09:32 pianohacker cpanel made another perl JSON fork, apparently 09:32 magnuse thatcher: good. busy 09:31 eythian everyone else is adding 10000 bugs 09:31 eythian he's eating pizza 09:31 thatcher how are you my friend 09:31 wahanui magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. 09:31 thatcher magnuse! 09:30 magnuse thatcher! 09:28 wizzycray those are the ones that are the killers 09:28 wizzycray and old_issues 09:27 bag ouch 09:27 bag there are a few in that group that touch all items 09:27 wahanui i think that is the bueaty of the plugins :) 09:27 eythian wizzycray: who is that? 09:27 bag oh yeah - see you tomorrow :) 09:27 wizzycray this is a 3.10 -> 3.22 09:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16200 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , 'Hold waiting too long' fee has a translation problem 09:27 bag bug 16200 09:27 wizzycray no 09:27 wizzycray oh, heh 09:26 bag holding waiting accountlines change wizzycray 09:26 bag yeah I was afraid that one was going to be big 09:26 wahanui well, HE is a dc 09:26 wizzycray HE? 09:26 bag the HE one? 09:26 wizzycray omg I just want this db upgrade to finish already 09:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16532: Groups showing empty tables if no groups defined <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca36a74c868f25217e0db0900f043b4403aa9e01> 09:26 bag kohala++ 09:25 thatcher it's shockingly drinkable 09:25 bag excellent and right on Rea’s 09:25 bag all THE beers 09:25 wizzycray just sayin. 09:25 wizzycray we made it ourselves. 09:25 thatcher all the beers 09:25 bag deal :) 09:24 wizzycray you should come over and have beer with us. 09:24 thatcher indeed sir 09:24 bag things are good thatcher - I just finished my presentation - so thinking about beer ;) 09:24 bag lol 09:24 wizzycray lol, there's only one. like the highlander. 09:24 thatcher how's the things 09:23 bag I have it on my calendar now - so I get the notice :) THE thatcher is famous in our household and in ByWater 09:23 wizzycray he was just telling me ;) 09:23 bag I hit THE thatcher up on facebook wizzycray 09:22 bag HA 09:22 thatcher many bdays upon you bag 09:22 thatcher hai2u 09:22 wizzycray you only missed it by 17 days, pretty close actually. 09:21 bag happy birthday thatcher 09:17 bag oh yeah rangi - if possible - let’s get a picture of everyone together that bought t-shirts… maybe right before lunch :) 09:16 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: DBRev up for Bug 16200 - 'Hold waiting too long' fee has a translation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bae0eb9ab702f3fe4351e7b3b23a332a998ed6b1> / Bug 16200: Convert all existing expired holds accounttype to HE <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=09de19c427c1e99d7e921210ed39cb6a19737317> / Bug 16200: Make 'Hold waiting too long' translatable and give it an unique 09:14 magnuse yay 09:13 wizzycray hehe jurassic marc. funny slide. 09:07 wahanui okay, eythian. 09:07 eythian wahanui: marc is also <reply>I think you mean Jurassic Marc, $who 09:06 wizzycray oarsome :) 09:06 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16619 - installer stuck in infinite loop <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3311ab44cfffcd152e7de4652637eb95a265308e> 09:04 bag done 09:03 wizzycray up to you :) 09:02 bag yeah typo on my part - I think I will bump that past QA 09:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14957 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, eivin, Needs Signoff , Write protecting MARC fields based on source of import 09:02 magnuse gah, i hate it when i write "protect marc" in bugzilla search to find bug 14957 09:02 wizzycray bag ^ 09:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16619 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Installer stuck in infinite loop 09:01 wizzycray bug 16619 09:00 wizzycray no 09:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16615 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Full-site SSL: always use SSL when referencing external resources 09:00 wizzycray bug 16615 09:00 wizzycray also a patch 09:00 wizzycray yeah there's a bug 08:57 bag hmm I’m stuck in a web installer on current master 08:50 talljoy ayup 08:50 bag always the hat on /me 08:49 talljoy :-D 08:49 bag talljoy++ 08:41 Koha-performanc 2.4.7 is the newest for ubuntu thursty 14.04, now im working on updating all of this, seems plack need apache 2.4.10 08:39 pianohacker Koha-performanc: yes, the apache-shared-intranet-plack.conf checks for a high enough apache version. Which version do you have? 08:32 Koha-performanc as i found plack to give effect requires newer apache, so newer linux version, im gonna look into this 08:17 petter all other pages should feel snappy 08:17 petter (but parsing of search-results is still slow) 08:17 petter The effect should be huge 08:16 petter If plack has no effect I can't belive it's on 08:07 davidnind Koha with packages is supported on LTS versions - Ubuntu 14.04, Debian 8 and 7. Still some work required to make Koha work on Ubuntu server 16.04 - not yet recommended, you will have problems! 08:02 Koha-performanc if plack would really help solving this atleast up til 1-2 secs, we might try to reinstall koha in newer version of linux 08:02 davidnind 207 - nice! (and it is coffee break time at the moment) 08:01 Koha-performanc our system runs on ubuntu 14.04 so it seems like plack has no effect 08:00 Koha-performanc local cover images are set to dont display 07:55 mveron 207 live viewers on http://www.livemedia.com/kohacon16 :-) 07:51 wizzycray Koha-performanc: turn off local cover images. 07:48 wahanui niihau, pianohacker 07:48 pianohacker hello 07:45 drojf ugh android 07:44 petter hei magnus! 07:44 magnuse hiya petter 07:44 magnuse Koha-performanc: you might want to run Koha under Plack. if you installed with the debian packages, you can enable plack with these commands: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack#Plack_on_packages_.283.22.2B.29 07:32 Koha-performanc Hello, could someone advise about koha library performance? We successfully installed koha with sampled data, unimarc format, added a few books, connected with ldap,everything seems fine except the performance - browsing and searching,browsing opac or intra takes 3-5 secs to load a page, searching 7-9 secs, though server hardware and internet connection seems more than fine 07:05 bag sorry not clear :P 07:05 bag yes 07:05 talljoy her typing was on the slide in the presentation 07:05 bag :D 07:05 wahanui well, ginny is doing great 07:05 marcelr_greece ginny? 07:05 talljoy cute!! 07:04 bag hahaha! it’s got ginny typing on the main screen 07:03 drojf hi #koha 07:00 marcelr_greece hi mveron 06:59 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 13.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on May 31, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 06:59 mveron @wunder Allschwil 06:58 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on May 31, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Rising). 06:58 magnuse @wunder boo 06:58 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 23.0°C (9:50 AM EEST on May 31, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 06:58 magnuse @wunder thessaloniki 06:55 wahanui hey, marcelr_greece 06:55 marcelr_greece hi there 06:54 wahanui the only good morning is a dead one 06:54 talljoy good morning! 06:54 gaetan_B hello 06:51 talljoy ;-) 06:51 talljoy don't 06:51 dcook talljoy: I could always try refreshing the page :p 06:51 talljoy no beiber? 06:51 wahanui i guess hahahahaha is there someone else we should ask? 06:51 talljoy hahahahaha 06:51 * dcook isn't sure how much he trusts this eventful.com :p 06:50 dcook Kiss, Paramore, Jonas Brothers 06:50 dcook Recommendations similar to Antimatter: 06:50 dcook Cool. I'll put them on now. 06:49 eythian one of the guys from earlierAnathema 06:49 eythian http://concerts.eventful.com/Antimatter <-- dcook you should check out this band 06:48 mveron hey dcook 06:48 dcook hey mveron 06:48 dcook I pop up from time to time 06:48 eythian fancy seeing you here 06:48 mveron Good morning / daytime #koha 06:48 eythian hi dcook 06:47 dcook heya eythian 06:47 eythian so true 06:47 talljoy bah 06:47 wahanui the only good morning is a dead one 06:47 talljoy good morning! 06:47 wahanui privet, eythian 06:47 eythian hi 06:46 magnuse bonjour! 06:45 fridolin hie there 06:30 wahanui bonjour, reiveune 06:30 reiveune hello 06:19 magnuse καλημÎÏα 06:17 magnuse what's the greek? kalimera? 06:16 bag :) 06:16 wahanui hello, magnuse 06:16 magnuse bag: HI 06:15 bag morning 06:15 * magnuse waves 05:45 dcook Love the atomic updates 05:45 dcook but thx :) 05:45 dcook Yeah, I eventually did a "find -name "update*" 05:43 wahanui updatedatabase.pl is still running. 05:43 wizzycray updatedatabase.pl 05:26 dcook Wait, update_database.pl.. 05:26 dcook Do we no longer have "upgrade_database.pl"? 05:18 * dcook waves to drojf 05:18 dcook heya wizzycray, you moderate the wiki, yeah? 05:05 dcook 26 instances of a TIMESTAMP column named "timestamp" 05:04 dcook Oh my... it turns out we defy that guideline quite often... 05:00 dcook I guess https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#SQL2:_SQL92_keywords rules out "timestamp" at least 04:59 dcook Alas, it does not feature.. 04:59 dcook TFW you wonder whether you should label a column "timestamp" and you remember that Koha actually does have code guidelines >_> 04:55 dcook wizzycray: I got a bad SSL cert for that one? 03:05 wizzycray https://www.waartaa.com/ this looks interesting 02:55 dcook night tcohen 02:55 talljoy good night tcohen 02:51 * tcohen heads to bed, have a good day/night everyone 02:38 dcook hehe 02:37 * talljoy checks the scrollback to see how we got here. 02:34 kathryn see, now i can wait to see her til I get home :) 02:30 talljoy ahahahahaha 02:29 kathryn I wish she wouldn't pull herself up by a handful of my flesh, though. I am not a handrail! 02:28 dcook hehe 02:28 kathryn :) 02:28 talljoy kids, under your feet for a moment, under your heart for a lifetime. 02:28 talljoy sigh..... 02:27 * tcohen melts down 02:27 tcohen manuel now prefers his dad to go sleep 02:27 dcook Ripley does well to put up with dad angst :p 02:27 dcook Always glad to give cuddles after 02:27 dcook I miss Ripley at work as well 02:26 dcook hehe 02:26 talljoy well the ennui i kind of enjoy. the angst.....not so much 02:25 talljoy and the angst and ennui! 02:25 kathryn hehe 02:25 tcohen hahahahah 02:25 talljoy i worked far less then, than i do now. With teenagers, they smell so bad, I'd rather be at work. 02:25 kathryn my heart is starting to ache from this conversation! 02:25 tcohen talljoy: yeah, more realistic 02:24 tcohen I miss manuel every day at work 02:24 talljoy easier to contain yourself, than them. 02:24 * dcook is looking forward to bub sleeping 02:24 talljoy there is truth to that image. 02:24 dcook hehe. I'd seen that one before 02:24 * tcohen has a solution for dcook http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/agVL8Bg_700b.jpg 02:23 kathryn sitting down is something we can look forward to when they sleep 02:23 dcook Well... until I want them not to be active :p 02:23 dcook tcohen: that's cool! I'm so stoked for Ripley to be more active 02:23 kathryn ah yeah, I am amazed what they can do even when we didn't really teach them 02:22 kathryn once she first said it she had to ask A LOT 02:22 tcohen manuel is very phisical (is it idiomatic?) he kicks the soccer ball better than his dad 02:22 kathryn less often now, only when she sees something new 02:22 talljoy HA 02:22 kathryn Frida says "whaasaaat??" al the time 02:22 dcook :3 02:22 talljoy and personality and talking starting. 02:22 tcohen they are discovering the world 02:22 kathryn apart from the teeth 02:22 talljoy mostly spent chasing them around if I recall right. 02:21 tcohen really funny 02:21 kathryn superfun 02:21 talljoy fun age! 02:21 kathryn hi talljoy :) she's 17 months, Frida! One month younger than tcohen's wee one 02:21 dcook Handsome! So much bigger than the baby photo! 02:21 dcook Ah, yes! That's the photo I saw! 02:20 tcohen hehe 02:20 tcohen you three have access 02:20 tcohen thats' on facebook with better resolution anyway 02:20 tcohen https://snag.gy/SDJNus.jpg 02:20 talljoy kathryn tell us about yours. 02:19 dcook hehe 02:19 dcook And I remember linking the two when I found out your news 02:19 kathryn Oh are we talking about our beloved children, I'm qualified! 02:19 dcook My mum was born Dec 6th 02:19 dcook Ah, that's it 02:18 tcohen :-D 02:18 tcohen it was Dec 5th 02:18 * tcohen is not sure how to share a facebook post here 02:18 dcook What day was he born? I keep thinking Dec 6th, but maybe it was just Dec 6 in Oz.. 02:18 tcohen he looks like a bigger boy, but he's only 1 1/2 yr 02:18 dcook tcohen: I think the last time I saw a photo of Manuel was when he was born! 02:17 tcohen i think Cecilia tagged me in a couple yesterday :-D 02:17 dcook I can't wait to compete with Ripley to see who can eat more.. 02:17 dcook hehe 02:17 talljoy i just try to keep my hands out of the way of their mouths 02:17 dcook tcohen: Did you post a photo of Manuel recently? 02:17 talljoy no. it disappears REALLY fast. 02:17 tcohen talljoy: you are right, Manuel is really tall now 02:17 dcook Food must not last long around there :p 02:16 talljoy 15 and 16 years old 02:16 talljoy 6.0 and 6.2 currently 02:16 dcook I think I was taller than my dad and he taller than his dad 02:16 dcook How tall are your kids, talljoy? 02:16 talljoy <- 6'0 02:16 talljoy and yes. planes are the worst if you have long legs. 02:16 talljoy then expect a tall teenager. they will be taller than you in about 14 years! 02:15 dcook Hopefully not too tall.. I think I'm 6'2" and I struggle with legroom on planes :p 02:15 talljoy wow! 02:15 dcook Tall and skinny like their dad :) 02:15 dcook I think they were 97th percentile for height at birth O_O 02:15 talljoy okay. yes, they grow fast that first year. right tcohen? 02:14 dcook They look huge though 02:14 dcook Mmm a bit over 3 02:14 talljoy how many months old now? 02:14 dcook I wonder if Ripley has outgrown their Koha onesie... 02:14 talljoy :D 02:14 dcook Baaabiiiies! 02:13 talljoy heh 02:13 talljoy really. babies. 02:13 talljoy ikr. 02:13 * dcook supposes he can't complain 02:13 dcook now I missed Kohacon16 for... baby? 02:13 dcook I missed Kohacon14 for Greece actually :p 02:13 dcook I was just in Greece in 2014, but wish I was there again.. 02:13 * tcohen too 02:13 * dcook is so jealous of talljoy's photos 02:13 dcook tcohen: Wasn't sure if you were in greece or not! 02:11 tcohen heh 02:11 talljoy it was pretty short then. 02:11 talljoy not too long. but longer than it was in Argentina. 02:11 tcohen talljoy: so you have your hair long? 02:10 tcohen :-P 02:10 tcohen you shouldn't give bag wine when he's about to type version numbers 02:10 talljoy tcohen 02:10 talljoy blarg 02:10 talljoy hi tchohen 02:10 tcohen hi talljoy! 02:04 talljoy jetlag-- 02:04 talljoy morning! 02:02 tcohen ^^^ that's my tz 02:02 tcohen America/Argentina/Cordoba 02:02 tcohen so, GMT-3 02:02 tcohen i'm in argenitna 02:02 tcohen how's that dad-life doing? 02:02 dcook tcohen: And what timezone are you in atm? :p 02:01 dcook hey tcohen :) 02:01 tcohen :D 02:01 tcohen hi dcook 02:00 papa my pleasure 02:00 papa bonjour monsieur 02:00 dcook heya mtj :) 02:00 dcook hey, papa. thanks for that sign off :) 01:59 wahanui bonjour, papa 01:59 papa hey hi there 01:58 mtj hiya dcook, hope all is well in babyland, over there.. :0) 01:54 dcook nearly 4 weeks, eh? 01:54 huginn dcook: papa was last seen in #koha 3 weeks, 5 days, 2 hours, 8 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <papa> eythian: maybe time to go to bed? 01:54 dcook @seen papa 01:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16575 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Irregular behaviour using window.print() followed by window.location.href= 01:54 dcook bug 16575 00:51 wizzycray florent++ \o/ 00:08 dcook wizzycray: Yeah, lots to do here, especially with the baby..