Time  Nick            Message
01:37 mtj             hey wizzyrea, i dont think there is any other way to fix, other than to drop/create the target db?
01:37 mtj             ive bumped into the problem myself
01:37 wizzyrea        blast, I was hoping that there was something tricky to be done.
01:38 mtj             ..it's the same problem you get loading any mysqldump'ed .sql file, (i think)
01:39 mtj             the tables are dumped to the .sql file, alphabetically
01:39 wizzyrea        http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2429655/can-you-automatically-create-a-mysqldump-file-that-doesnt-enforce-foreign-key-c
01:39 wizzyrea        aha
01:39 wizzyrea        maybe there is something tricky.
01:40 mtj             ahh, good point there ^
01:42 mtj             hmm, does a koha-dumped file not have the 'FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS=0' stuff at the top
01:43 wizzyrea        not sure
01:43 mtj             ... like a general mysqldump'ed file?
01:44 wizzyrea        yeah they're there
01:44 mtj             hmm, yep
01:44 wizzyrea        so it's not that
01:45 mtj             CREATE DATABASE /*!32312 IF NOT EXISTS*/ `koha_demodev` /*!40100 DEFAULT CHARACTER SET latin1 */;
01:45 mtj             eww, latin1? ^
01:46 mtj             hmm, did i miss some mysql setup on my dev system :/
01:47 wizzyrea        well all of the data seems to have utr8 as character set
01:47 wizzyrea        even if the default is latin1
01:47 wizzyrea        f, utf
01:48 mtj             wtf8..
01:50 mtj             but yeah, same here wiz,
04:37 drojf           morning
05:57 marcelr_greece  hi there
05:57 wahanui         salut, marcelr_greece
06:26 * magnuse       waves
06:44 fridolin        hie there
06:46 matts           hi !
06:47 drojf           hello
06:48 reiveune        hello
07:05 eythian         @later tell aliesha you're on the big screen, btw :)
07:05 huginn          eythian: The operation succeeded.
07:05 mveron-away     Hi #koha
07:11 * magnuse       waves again
07:11 magnuse         @wunder thessaloniki
07:11 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Thessaloniki, Greece is 24.0°C (9:50 AM EEST on June 01, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling).
07:11 magnuse         oops
07:11 magnuse         @wunder boo
07:11 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on June 01, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
07:21 drojf           @wunder berlin, germany
07:21 huginn          drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 18.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on June 01, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
07:21 drojf           i will stay
07:21 drojf           hei magnuse and mveron
07:21 magnuse         moin drojf
07:22 drojf           hi eythian
07:22 magnuse         having fun?
07:22 eythian         sup
07:22 mveron          hi all :-)
07:22 drojf           a little early for fun. but i will once i wake up
07:22 mveron          Very interesting at the moment...
07:24 magnuse         gah, looks like mysql was not running when i started apt-get upgrade, and now it's just hanging after the koha updatedatabase failed...
07:24 magnuse         some of us have to work, y'know ;-)
07:25 drojf           could you do my work too?
07:26 magnuse         sure, right after i finish mine ;-)
07:26 drojf           excellent!
07:26 drojf           magnuse++
07:27 drojf           hi mape
07:27 mape            Hello
07:27 wahanui         hi, mape
07:27 drojf           no idea who you are but you seem to be at kohacon
07:28 mape            indeed
07:28 magnuse         mape++
07:29 magnuse         welcome to the #koha channel - this is where we have fun the rest of the year
07:29 drojf           mape: where are you from?
07:30 mape            I'm from Sweden, working as an librarian at Luleå University of Technology
07:30 drojf           ah we spoke briefly yesterday i think
07:30 mape            Where are you from?
07:30 drojf           berlin
07:31 * magnuse       waves from norway
07:33 mape            you can also have talked to my college Ola, he did the Koha implements at our library
07:33 drojf           ah you are here with several people? cool
07:34 mape            yeah, we are 2 from Luleå, but the only ones from Sweden
07:34 drojf           guten morgen LibraryClaire
07:34 liw             mape, god morgon
07:35 mape            god morgon
07:35 LibraryClaire   hallo :)
07:35 mape            where are you from liw?
07:35 liw             mape, Finland
07:35 drojf           mape: are you staying for the hackfest?
07:36 mape            I'm afraid not, but my daughter got birthday and I did't want to miss it
07:36 drojf           it's funny how many koha-related children have a birthday during this kohacon
07:37 drojf           soon they are old enough to have their own part of the conference
07:37 mape            but my colleague will attend
07:37 rangi           yay im finished
07:37 drojf           rangi++
07:38 liw             . o O (Koha Kids -- adventure and excitement in libraries for children and the whole family!)
07:38 mape            LittleKoha =)
07:38 drojf           liw: needs a theme song
07:39 mape            my kids singing everything from Frost at the moment, any will do =p
07:39 drojf           liw: do you plan to be around for all hackfest and we see when we do the workshop then, or should we set a day/time before?
07:39 mape            liw where in Finland?
07:40 * magnuse       stays at home because of his kid turning 4 today
07:40 liw             drojf, I'm arriving tomorrow afternoon, at which point I will probably die from heat exhaustion. I'll be around until Sunday morning, at which point I will have repeatedly died from heat exhaustion. I'm loooking at ways to bring small ice bergs in carry-on.
07:40 liw             mape, Helsinki
07:40 drojf           liw: the conference place is cool. ;)
07:40 rangi           we broke that marc hold in 1999 .. then we put it back ;-)
07:40 mape            it's a nice town, haven't been there for years =)
07:40 drojf           oh the hackfest is somewhere else, but i suppose it will be too
07:40 rangi           i think in the library itself drojf
07:41 drojf           yep
07:41 mape            yeah but you get a check then you walk outside
07:41 mape            chock
07:41 magnuse         wow, git clone is taking like forever on this server
07:43 drojf           liw: but i meant if you plan to hang around with the koha people all the time or see something else too ;)
07:46 liw             drojf, ah, no plans either way, but I would love to sit in a cool, quiet bar or restaurant and talk about the wonders of the world
07:46 drojf           the cool part may be a problem :D
07:48 mape            bring lots of ice?
07:58 drojf           LibraryClaire: are you using the web chat thing to get here?
07:58 LibraryClaire   yeah... :/
07:58 LibraryClaire   need admin access to this pc to get a client
07:59 LibraryClaire   i normally use a client back home
07:59 drojf           ah ok. i sent you a private message but that may just not work
07:59 LibraryClaire   ah i see it
08:03 koha-performanc Hello, i;m upgrading system for koha to work with plank, when i install with linux 16.04 i get mysql 5.7 bug, i;have seen that bug had been fixed in koha 3.22.7, how do i get this version if im installing with packages from - echo deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha stable main | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list
08:03 koha-performanc should it be unstable main?
08:06 davidnind       koha-performanc: see https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2016-June/045478.html - may help I hope
08:19 koha-performanc bug with linux 16.04 and mysql 5.7 persist after installing koha 3.22.07, just now i got a little different error
08:19 koha-performanc Web installer › Step 3  The following error occurred while importing the database structure:  [Wed Jun 1 11:17:23 2016] install.pl: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: BLOB, TEXT, GEOMETRY or JSON column 'defaultvalue' can't have a default value at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/RunSQL.pm line 273.  Please contact your system administrator
08:20 koha-performanc this was with oldstable main install
08:31 marcelr_greece  talljoy++ and pianohacker++ for a great presentation
08:31 talljoy         thank you marcelr_greece
08:35 magnuse         kia ora benjamin
08:36 magnuse         hooray for making koha metadata format agnostic
08:38 eythian         koha-performanc: it is not expected to work with ubuntu 16.04 at the moment.
08:39 marcelr_greece  magnuse: you are not that happy with marc lol
08:40 eythian         marcelr_greece: $ whois marc-must-die.info | grep -i 'registrant name'
08:40 eythian         Registrant Name: Magnus Enger
08:40 marcelr_greece  :)
08:43 magnuse         marcelr_greece: that is true
08:52 magnuse         talljoy and pianohacker: have you talked to Rurik/brinxmat yet? OPL will start cataloguing in rdf real soon now
08:52 pianohacker     magnuse: a little bit. He may be demoing later
08:52 talljoy         yes, he has been targeted.  We will be seeing a demo from him shortly. :-D
08:52 pianohacker     s/may/WILL/
08:58 mape            Anyone know any good, very small and fast linux distro based on debian?
08:59 magnuse         pianohacker and talljoy: very good! do not let him leave greece before he has explained to you everything they are doing at OPL :-)
09:00 eythian         mape: debian?
09:00 wahanui         the operating system equivalent of rangi - straight up open source
09:00 pianohacker     mape: debian can be trimmed down more than you might think :)
09:00 mape            true, network install iso was very small
09:00 eythian         yeah, start there and add the  bits you need
09:01 pianohacker     mape: I did my first few installed leaving the default sets of installed packages, then tried one without them and was amazed at how small the result was
09:02 koha-perf       plank doesnt work on ubuntu 14.04, koha is terribly slow - 4-9 secs, then i install 16.04 and you say it's not expeced to work with koha.. this information really should be stated somewhere clearly..
09:02 koha-perf       which version of linux is needed to work koha with plank without bugs?
09:02 mape            ok try a minimal inst. of debian =)
09:04 bag             sorry about that Rurik - I really want to see the stuff you prepared.  Maybe we end early on one session coming up and can get you in there :)
09:05 pianohacker     koha-perf: what version is apache now?
09:05 magnuse         bag: i don't think rurik is on irc?
09:06 bag             he’s not currently but just saying sorry somewhere magnuse
09:06 bag             :)
09:06 pianohacker     koha-perf: we're in an unfortunate position where we need a recent version of apache, but the most recent version of MySQL is a lot more strict
09:06 pianohacker     so it breaks things :/
09:07 koha-perf       Linux 16.04 comes with Apache/2.4.18 (Ubuntu)
09:07 koha-perf       could there be a temp solution to reduce mysql security to pass all that data or something?
09:09 pianohacker     koha-perf: you can try setting sql_mode = '' in the mysql server configuration
09:09 pianohacker     koha-perf: I can't find a good guide, but I think it's /etc/mysql/my.cnf
09:09 pianohacker     or somewhere close
09:10 koha-perf       yup, tryging out that just right now
09:10 pianohacker     mape: why are you looking to slim down debian?
09:12 mape            need a fest version I can put on a usb drive, so I either can virtualise KoHA och boot from usb.
09:12 pianohacker     ah, okay
09:13 mape            did try a debian xfde install, it worked great in Virtualbox, but a bit slower on usb
09:14 drojf           mape: you don't need a graphical interface to virtualize koha
09:15 mape            yeah I won't need it, but someone who's not so good at linux probably will
09:15 mape            but a headless server and virtualbox would solve much
09:15 pianohacker     koha-perf: I found a guide if you're having any trouble
09:16 koha-perf       yes, it would be great
09:16 pianohacker     koha-perf: https://mattstauffer.co/blog/how-to-disable-mysql-strict-mode-on-laravel-forge-ubuntu
09:16 pianohacker     except instead of sql_mode=ONLY_FULL...
09:16 pianohacker     just put sql_mode=
09:22 pianohacker     that's a circ every other second O_o
09:26 koha-perf       yes, editing mysql config helps to pass this error, thank you for assistance, now going to config and test koha with plank and hope it;ll help to improve performance :)
09:27 pianohacker     koha-perf: excellent! glad to hear
09:27 pianohacker     koha-perf: hi, by the way, I'm Jesse Weaver, a software developer with ByWater Solutions
09:28 koha-perf       heh, after loggin in therese an error DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): Table 'koha_library.discharges' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Borrower/Discharge.pm line 32
09:29 pianohacker     Joubu: have we looked at alternative serializations for fixing some of the L1 cache issues?
09:29 pianohacker     sereal is packaged and allegedly super speedy
09:30 pianohacker     koha-perf: odd...
09:30 eythian         pianohacker: booking made it for caching serialisation
09:30 koha-perf       seems like not all tables where created
09:31 koha-perf       okei, using this workaround may create new bugs that can be hard to see, is there a known version of linux that works with plank correctly?
09:31 eythian         I assume debian jessie works
09:32 pianohacker     koha-perf: is it possible to recreate your database from scratch
09:32 pianohacker     eythian: have you had any experience with it? performance, limitations, ...?
09:32 koha-perf       yest database wasnt created becouse of mysql problems, so recreating it may result the same
09:32 eythian         (that said, that error is a strange one that I'd look at closer first.)
09:32 pianohacker     koha-perf: did you create the database before ore after you changed the config file?
09:32 eythian         pianohacker: not sure, I haven't used it myself directly.
09:33 koha-perf       changed confing -> restarted mysql -> did web installer once more from start
09:33 pianohacker     :(
09:34 pianohacker     koha-perf: do any tables exist?
09:35 koha-perf       yes, but only about a half of the supposed number
09:35 pianohacker     oh jeez
09:37 pianohacker     koha-perf: yeah, fixing this may be harder than switching to debian jessie
09:38 bag             debian jessie does work
09:39 koha-perf       oh, i havent recreated koha's instance after mysql conf eddition
09:39 koha-perf       removed and created a new instance helped, now i've got an intra web on
09:45 matts           vegetarian cooking as example, nice, paul :)
09:57 mape_           drojf: down to 500 mg with a headless debian installation
09:59 magnuse         milligrams? ;-)
10:00 mape_           =p
10:01 mape_           if Linux was a medicine...
10:04 magnuse         tcohen around? looks like the pootle server is down
10:04 magnuse         and the documentation along with it
10:04 pianohacker     I think it's pretty early for him
10:04 magnuse         yup, i suspect so too
10:05 magnuse         @seen tcohen
10:05 huginn          magnuse: tcohen was last seen in #koha 21 hours, 20 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <tcohen> when is it held?
10:05 magnuse         07:05
10:05 magnuse         @later tell tcohen could you get someone to give the pootle server a gentle kick?
10:05 huginn          magnuse: The operation succeeded.
10:07 koha-perf       so thanks again for assistance, koha 3.22 with default setup on ubuntu 14.04 had a delay of 3-9 seconds, installing on 16.04 with modified mysql config file and plack enabled seems to work like a charm, pages load in about 1 sec :)
10:07 pianohacker     koha-perf: yay!
10:07 pianohacker     koha-perf: may I ask who you are, out of curiosity?
10:08 koha-perf       i;m from lithuania, working on all IT problems in a vocational school
10:09 magnuse         koha-perf++
10:09 pianohacker     koha-perf: cool!
10:12 eythian         koha-perf: excellent :)
11:04 bag             marcelr_greece: http://www.slideshare.net/talljoy/kohacon2016
11:04 marcelr_greece  cool
11:05 magnuse         @later tell tcohen never mind, the pootle server is back!
11:05 huginn          magnuse: The operation succeeded.
11:07 magnuse         trying to search on 3.22.7 i get "Can't locate object method "fields" via package "DBI::db" at /home/kohaadmin/kohaclone/C4/Biblio.pm line 2673." anyone else seeing that?
11:23 jajm            magnuse, search works fine for me
11:26 jajm            magnuse, at C4/Biblio.pm line 2673 i have nothing but a comment, are you sure you are using 3.22.7 ?
11:26 magnuse         jajm: thanks, something local then
11:27 magnuse         jajm: yes, 3.22.07.000 accoding to "about koha"
11:27 jajm            ok
11:29 magnuse         jajm: for me the line looks like this:
11:29 magnuse         MARCFIELD: foreach my $field ( $record->fields() ) {
11:30 magnuse         i am running gitified, there might be some new patches since the actual 3.22.7 release
11:31 jajm            magnuse, only one, in PerlDependencies.pm, so that's not the problem
11:31 jajm            do you have local commits ?
11:31 bag             welcome back talljoy
11:32 talljoy         thanks!
11:32 talljoy         good to be here
11:33 Joubu           pianohacker: what's the name of the module you told me? Serialise?
11:33 pianohacker     Joubu: sereal
11:34 magnuse         jajm: i do. and that patch is above this line. mystery solved :-)
11:35 jajm            cool :)
11:36 magnuse         btw, i really miss the second progress indicator of (the underlying script of) koha-rebuild-zebra, the one in the indexing phase
11:39 bag             it was me talking not NateC ;)
11:40 bag             at the boston one
11:40 drojf           the most freedom for non freedom
11:49 * gaetan_B      is trying to install marcedit on linux and it feels really wrong
11:50 Joubu           tcohen: Is bug 16582 the correct way?
11:50 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16582 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Passed QA , t/Price.t test should pass if Test::DBIx::Class is not available
11:51 Joubu           I don't remember the problem with Test::DBIx::Class, it's not packagable, that's it?
11:51 rangi           dangit i forgot to do my OSS != non commercial rant
11:52 * talljoy       feels a comment coming in the Q&A
11:54 rangi           ahh he used proprietary in that slide, .. so that's better
11:54 eythian         gaetan_B: don't do it!
11:55 oleonard        Hi #koha
11:55 gaetan_B        well i did, and now i have a marcedit screen with all the buttons filled with garbled characters
11:55 rangi           hi oleonard
11:55 eythian         gaetan_B: submit a patc...oh wait
11:55 gaetan_B        i might have to give up on this idea, but if that means using a windows computer it will be complicated
11:56 eythian         gaetan_B: what are you attempting?
11:56 gaetan_B        the magic winisis iso transformation trick demonstrated by Rocio
11:57 eythian         presumably .iso is just an ISO MARC file?
11:57 eythian         does marcdump read it?
11:57 gaetan_B        it is supposed to be an iso marc file, but yaz-marcdump cannot read it
11:58 eythian         is there a sample file somewhere?
11:59 rangi           you cant ask that
12:00 pianohacker     gaetan_B: how big is this file?
12:00 pianohacker     slash can we poke it?
12:00 gaetan_B        17 Mb
12:01 gaetan_B        i have a link to download it, which i can email to you
12:01 gaetan_B        but i can't really paste it on irc i think
12:02 pianohacker     gaetan_B: that works, thanks, I'm very curious :)
12:02 oleonard        Ooh, cait is up in the big chair this morning
12:03 eythian         gaetan_B: you need to write a module that can convert it to something useful and put it on CPAN :)
12:03 gaetan_B        we'll see, if we can avoid writing a module, maybe we'll avoid that step ;)
12:03 pianohacker     oleonard: am I in frame on the livestream? I'm very sleepy and worried that I'll pass out in full view of the world
12:04 oleonard        pianohacker: Just stay awake during Q&A, that's when the camera pulls back
12:04 marcelr_greece  pianohacker: any chance to pass me your presentatoin slides?
12:04 eythian         gaetan_B: what does it actually look like inside, MARC-like or something else?
12:04 eythian         maybe it's just compressed or something>
12:04 talljoy         it should look like "marc"
12:05 eythian         but iso2709 or something else?
12:05 pianohacker     marcelr_greece: yes, I'm looking into getting them posted
12:05 marcelr_greece  great
12:06 gaetan_B        eythian: it sort of looks like iso, but with a maximum line length
12:06 gaetan_B        i get a new line after every 80 characters i think
12:06 eythian         ah, so perhaps just reforming at the breaks is all that's needed.
12:07 gaetan_B        if we're lucky that will be the only thing needed in order to open it
12:09 eythian         a bit of sed should get you some idea of that's all that's needed anyway.
12:09 oleonard        Oh wow, the old npl template!
12:11 gaetan_B        still not enough
12:11 gaetan_B        i get a lot of errors, the sort Rocio talked about
12:12 gaetan_B        i think marcedit had a small tool that takes care of all of those
12:12 gaetan_B        aaah there she is :)
12:12 eythian         gaetan_B: what sort of errors?
12:12 talljoy         she's been reading my screen gaetan_B
12:12 talljoy         ;-)
12:12 gaetan_B        can i fetch your presentation slides from somewhere rocio ?
12:12 talljoy         rocio do you have slideshare account?
12:13 gaetan_B        eythian: (Directory offset 72: Bad value for data length and/or length starting (22500140\x0D005)) (Base address not at end of directory, base 385, end 73)(No separator at end of field length=3) (Separator but not at end of field length=17)
12:13 gaetan_B        etc
12:13 talljoy         that looks like carriage returns.
12:13 eythian         I wonder if there's a weird offset
12:13 rocio           I don't have an account, but I can upload them there. Does that work for you gaetan_B? Or do you want an email?
12:13 talljoy         rocio i can upload them to my account and you can email pdfs also
12:14 pianohacker     gaetan_B: oh, dear lord, there's no leaders
12:14 talljoy         i think that's normal in winisis pianohacker
12:14 gaetan_B        i don't have a slideshare account
12:14 talljoy         this is only marc in appearance.
12:14 talljoy         gaetan_B you don't need one to access the slides.
12:15 talljoy         once i get them from rocio i'll upload them and she/I can send you a link
12:15 rocio           Did the program download for you yet?
12:15 gaetan_B        ok, you can email them to me at gaetan.boisson@biblibre.com, or put them online and i'll download it
12:15 gaetan_B        yes but i can't get it to work under linux yet
12:15 talljoy         ACK
12:15 talljoy         yah, i think you will be wrestling a pig to get marcedit to run on linux.
12:16 talljoy         <- is from texas....sorry for the idiom
12:16 gaetan_B        :D
12:16 rocio           If you want we can do it on my computer?
12:16 gaetan_B        that's a nice image
12:16 talljoy         yes.  lovely isn't it.  lol
12:16 talljoy         i almost went with an oiled pig.
12:16 eythian         OK, I found someone's file on the internet. It's definitely close to ISO2709.
12:16 talljoy         which is a popular event at the state fair.
12:16 gaetan_B        actually there's a page on a website about using it on linux, where they tell you to read carefully the install.txt file you will get in the download
12:16 gaetan_B        but there's no such file :D
12:17 talljoy         ah!  that's a problem then
12:17 rocio           How helpful lol
12:17 talljoy         i have marcedit on this mac rocio and gaetan_B if you want to try this later today.  Or you can wait til the hackfest.
12:17 gaetan_B        rocio: we'll try it on you computer at the break if you don't mind yes !
12:17 talljoy         she left it at the apt
12:17 gaetan_B        or at the hackfest yes
12:17 gaetan_B        ah ok
12:17 talljoy         sorry rocio i should let you type
12:17 gaetan_B        it's not an emergency anyway
12:18 talljoy         but she is on the phone.  and typing on a phone is like eating with your knees
12:18 gaetan_B        i'm just taking advantage of the fact you are around!
12:18 rocio           Ha!
12:18 pianohacker     I kind of want to try to make a fix script
12:18 pianohacker     for catmandu
12:18 pianohacker     gaetan_B: do you... catmandu
12:18 gaetan_B        another beautiful idiom from texas talljoy ?
12:18 talljoy         yes, apparently so.  lol
12:18 gaetan_B        i don't, but i think we should start looking into it indeed
12:19 oleonard        I did not know this HTML tag existed https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/mark
12:19 eythian         pianohacker: that would be a good idea.
12:31 oleonard        What is the name of the person speaking now?
12:32 eythian         gaetan_B: if you just strip the \015\012 then it starts to parse with marcdump, but everything but the leader is skipped, so presumably the dictionary isn't correct.
12:33 gaetan_B        eythian: don't spend too much of your time on this ;) i think we'll decode it very quickly on talljoy's computer
12:33 bag             hmm perhaps we need a spot on the website for users groups to put some links and information to their groups
12:33 eythian         gaetan_B: you're just tying yourself to proprietary software by relying on marcedit :)
12:33 talljoy         bag you should comment on that
12:34 oleonard        Ah, helpful camera shot of his name tag
13:05 oleonard        Hi waking-up people
13:06 oleonard        nengard you got some nice shout-outs for your good work on the manual
13:08 nengard         awww
13:08 nengard         :)
13:09 oleonard        nengard: During the "10 years of Koha in Greece" presentation
13:09 nengard         I'll have to go watch that
13:23 JesseM          morning
13:24 drojf           matts: http://librecat.org/
13:24 matts           thx drojf
13:25 drojf           i think there is no unimarc yet
13:25 drojf           they accept contributions ;)
13:25 matts           :)
13:28 bag             morning jenkins_koha
13:28 bag             morning JesseM
13:30 rangi           bag: http://www.livemedia.com/photo/236697
13:30 bag             nice
13:30 rangi           and one for rocio http://www.livemedia.com/photo/236840
13:33 oleonard        Whoever the photographer is, they're good
13:38 rangi           yeah, its the people who did the video, professionals and really fast/good
13:40 oleonard        Is anyone here at the current session? Is it just going to be reading a laundry list?
13:41 rangi           i think its just a reading the list, people seem to be liking it though
13:43 grharry         bad
13:44 oleonard        grharry: ?
13:44 grharry         the enhancement list
13:44 grharry         poor
13:44 pianohacker     it would be nice to have these as bugs
13:45 grharry         no social media introduced
13:45 grharry         no twitter
13:45 oleonard        grharry: An enhancement list can be called poor only in relation to one's own wish list
13:46 grharry         I am claiming it as poor regarding it's lenght not content
13:47 pianohacker     what is this about?
13:48 rangi           its what people entered on their registration form
13:49 bag             alvet won a tardis
13:50 rangi           heh
13:50 grharry         :P
13:52 bag             ten bucks pianohacker misses it and catches a bus to the vergina - like he did in Reno
13:52 bag             pianohacker++
13:52 pianohacker     shhhhh
13:54 bag             pianohacker: you should ask now what bus number to get at 10am tomorrow :P
13:54 grharry         lol
13:55 pianohacker     stay up too late working on a patch oooooooooooooone time
13:55 bag             heh
13:55 bag             hey what’s up bgkriegel
13:56 bgkriegel       Hi bag :)
13:56 bgkriegel       watching kohacon live :)
13:56 bag             ok time for us to find final beers :)
13:57 pianohacker     ¡Buenos dias!
13:57 mveron          Thank you all at KohaCon  :-)
13:57 grharry         wow !!! too many people using windows ....
13:57 grharry         :P
13:58 oleonard        [off] grumpy...
13:59 pianohacker     [off] no idea who that was
14:20 tcohen          @wunder cordoba argentina
14:20 huginn          tcohen: The current temperature in Valle Escondido, Cordoba, Argentina, Córdoba, Argentina is 9.5°C (11:19 AM ART on June 01, 2016). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
14:21 tcohen          #koha: UNC had a major outage yesterday due to a storage server failure, that's why translate was down (and so some jenkins nodes), everything is supposed to be up and running again, please let us know
14:30 oleonard        @wunder 45701
14:30 huginn          oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is 30.0°C (10:30 AM EDT on June 01, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
14:31 oleonard        Summer has definitely arrived here.
14:36 nengard         @wunder 78754
14:36 huginn          nengard: The current temperature in North Acres, Austin, Texas is 24.9°C (9:26 AM CDT on June 01, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising).  Flash Flood Watch in effect through Friday morning... 
14:36 nengard         it's cooler here!!
14:39 oleonard        nengard: especially when you're under water?
14:39 nengard         well ... yeah
15:00 talljoy         @later tell gaeten_b http://boingboing.net/2015/05/30/pig-escapes-terrorizes-entire.html
15:00 huginn          talljoy: The operation succeeded.
15:00 reiveune        bye
16:46 oleonard        The alternative KohaCon16 taking place in oleonard's office is going well, but attendance is very low.
16:48 nengard         heh
17:00 circ-user-favsE hello, i have koha install on VPS with ip
17:00 circ-user-favsE i would like to enable send mail for notification so how can i do that ?
17:00 circ-user-favsE help please
17:00 wahanui         help is at http://koha-community.org/support/ if no-one here can help.
18:17 mveron          Good evening / daytime #koha
18:18 oleonard        Hi mveron
18:18 mveron          oleonard: Hi! And thanks for the comments on 16540 :-)
18:19 * mveron        ...used to say please please as kid when he wanted to get an icecream...
18:21 oleonard        :)
18:32 mveron          oleonard: We have two occurences of "don't" and several occurences of "do not" in opac-auth.tt. I think that could be streamlined - but what version would be better?
18:32 mveron          Examples: "If you do not have a CAS account..." and "If you don't have a library card..."
18:34 oleonard        mveron: I think if you're talking about sentences which are so similar, you can't pick whichever is more common and make them alike. However, I wouldn't suggest replacing /all/ occurrences of one with the other.
18:37 mveron          OK, I leave the "don't"s and the "do not"s as is
20:49 eythian         @later tell LibraryClaire remember that remote viewer your IT guy was using today... http://www.inquisitr.com/3156809/teamviewer-accounts-hacked-thousands-of-customers-vulnerable/
20:49 huginn          eythian: The operation succeeded.
21:40 brdrgz          Hey guys.  Can someone explain the versioning changes?  Why did 3.24 become 16.05?
21:40 talljoy         it was voted on by the community.
21:40 talljoy         and agreed upon.
21:48 thatcher        makes more sense in the long run i think, since it's year.month versioning instead of "historical"
21:49 talljoy         brdrgz i think it became obvious that 3. or 4. seemed arbitrary.
21:49 talljoy         And YY.05 and YY.11 at least gave some meaning to the release - indicating when it was released.
21:52 brdrgz          Ah ok.  The 16 referring to the year totally flew over my head, haha.  Makes sense now that I'm looking at the release schedule.
21:52 talljoy         :)
21:53 gmcharlt        Introducing... Koha 5776!!! (ERR_CALENDAR_NOT_EXPLICITLY_SPECIFIED)
22:20 wizzyrea        has anyone seen a thing where a catalogue running plack explodes when star ratings are enabled?
22:24 wizzyrea        it's a bit odd, it just dies, with no error in opac-error, no error in the plack-error, but "internal server error"
22:24 wizzyrea        but turning off star ratings completely fixes it for the results page, I haven't looked at the detail only view.
22:27 wizzyrea        yeah it explodes the detail only view as well.
22:29 wizzyrea        Anyway, disappointed library that likes star ratings.
23:41 wizzyrea        are we really sending the surname, barcode, and reservedate to selfchecks when an item is on hold for another user?
23:41 wizzyrea        that seems INSANE.