IRC log for #koha, 2015-12-13

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04:33 bora hello, any one can tell me how to upgrade koha to latest version 3.20?
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04:50 bora_ anyone can help me
04:50 bora_ i want to upgrad koha version to the latest v3.20
04:50 bora_ please help me ?
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11:42 xarragon Is it possible to hand off a resultset from a dbix::rs::search operation to TT's foreach loop?
11:43 xarragon Or do I have to manually convert it to an array manually?
11:56 xarragon Ah, I see. I need to use a while loop instead of foreach
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12:25 drojf hi #koha
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12:45 cait hi drojf :)
12:46 cait @later tell tcohen hm spanish bug report - 15356 - could you take a look maybe?
12:46 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded.
12:47 drojf hi cait. doing the sunday shift? :)
12:48 cait not sure.... but trying to empty out the inboxes :)
12:48 drojf we accept spanish bug reports? :P
12:48 drojf there would be a market for bug reports in germany too, probably
12:51 cait not sur we do, but i thought maybe a nice ' we don't ' in spanish would work better
12:51 cait was also not sure where to point htem too to report a problem in spanish if need be
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13:22 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
13:22 huginn` tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 31.2°C (10:20 AM ART on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising).
13:22 tcohen brrr
13:22 drojf hi tcohen
13:23 liw @wunder torrevieja
13:23 huginn` liw: The current temperature in Acequion, Torrevieja, Spain is 17.3°C (2:22 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling).
13:23 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
13:23 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 5.0°C (1:50 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
13:23 drojf i would switch with both of you ;)
13:24 liw no need to switch, you can come here, plenty of space in this town
13:24 liw also, beaches if you like that kind of thing
13:26 drojf tempting!
13:28 tcohen yeah, i'll prepare the asado
13:28 cait @wunder Konstanz
13:28 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Friedrichshafen, Germany is 8.0°C (2:20 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
13:28 * liw wants to visit Friedrichshafen some day, for the Zeppelins
13:29 cait :)
13:29 cait I went there with eythian - there was an event at the dornier museum and we saw the zeppelin land opposite
13:29 cait they are pretty cool to look at
13:29 cait youcan also see them fly around here all the time
14:08 tcohen Joubu: I discovered why i introduce that weird hidden character on this damn OS
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16:15 eythian liw: yeah, it was pretty cool
16:17 * cait waves
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16:38 liw eythian, I envy you!
16:39 eythian Didn't go for a ride in one as it was pretty expensive. Who knows, maybe next summer ☺
16:40 cait :)
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16:51 liw eythian, :)
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18:30 magnuse @wunder boo
18:30 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0°C (7:20 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
18:31 eythian Chilly
18:31 eythian @wunder amsterdam
18:31 huginn` eythian: Error: No such location could be found.
18:31 eythian ...
18:32 eythian @wunder amsterdam, netherlands
18:32 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Aalsmeerderbrug, Aalsmeerderbrug, Netherlands is 7.2°C (7:30 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
18:32 eythian That's not the closest location to pull data from, I'd have thought
18:53 cait @wunder Konstanz
18:53 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Saint Gallen-Altenrhein, Germany is 0.0°C (7:20 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
18:53 cait hm
18:53 cait weird place heretoo
18:54 * magnuse high-fives cait
18:54 cait :)
18:54 drojf @wunder berlin, germanxy
18:54 huginn` drojf: Error: No such location could be found.
18:54 drojf heh
18:55 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
18:55 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 1.0°C (7:50 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
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19:00 eythian cait: it must take the latest nearby or something, given you've had two different places.
19:00 cait hm not really 2 different probably
19:00 eythian drojf: you should visit Amsterdam, it's not that cold
19:00 eythian cait: they have different names
19:01 cait eythian: but that one was completely new and it's not as close as others it usually shows
19:01 cait saint gallen-altenrhein?
19:01 cait ah. and Friedrichshafen
19:01 eythian Yeah
19:01 cait both are a unusual
19:01 drojf eythian: not sure if i'd travel for 1° vs 7° ;)
19:01 cait maybe they changed something?
19:01 cait @wunder Konstanz
19:01 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Saint Gallen-Altenrhein, Germany is 0.0°C (7:50 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
19:02 eythian Right, which is why I suspect it's the latest result
19:02 eythian drojf: time to find out for sure!
19:05 drojf true :D don't think this year has time left for me to travel. but i'd love to come visit in 2016
19:06 drojf it will be cold enough to test for quite a while :P
19:08 eythian Yeah. I'm hoping to get to Norway between Christmas and new year's roughly. That'll be good and cold.
19:08 drojf oh nice!
19:08 eythian Probably should buy a scarf.
19:08 drojf where do you wanna go?
19:08 eythian A uni friend lives about an hour by bus out of Oslo.
19:09 eythian May have to see it magnuse is free too ☺
19:11 eythian (my current boots have pop out spikes for ice, I need a chance to test them out. Dunno how I found them in Wellington, it never freezes there.)
19:12 eythian Suppose they'd also be good for muddy bush tracks
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19:23 rangi morning
19:24 cdickinson_ well, I guess I forgot to turn off my computer at home
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19:45 mveron Hi #koha
19:45 mveron @wunder Allschwil
19:45 huginn` mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 3.0°C (8:30 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
19:46 rangi hi mveron
19:46 mveron Hi rangi
19:46 mveron :-)
19:46 * mveron is hunting down translation issues...
19:46 rangi always fun :)
19:47 cait he is on a mission :)
19:47 mveron Yes indeed. Sometimes translations sound lik done ba a robot...
19:48 mveron cait: Yes, we cant sell a ILS with odd translations to schools  :-)
19:51 rangi eythian:[…]2157659970319023/
19:52 eythian Shut up 😉
19:52 rangi hehe
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20:12 wizzyrea hi
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20:21 rangi @wunder nzwn
20:21 huginn` rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
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20:30 eythian Hi wizzyrea
20:31 wizzyrea ^.^ hi
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20:38 xarragon Am I really supposed to hand-code and hand-sanitize form field input? Or are we using some sort of framework to handle that?
20:40 wizzyrea gonna have to be specific about the context there
20:40 wizzyrea which form field, where
20:42 cait1 there is some javascript library to use client side I think - for required fields and similar (and that answremight not make sense because context :) )
21:01 xarragon wizzyrea: I am adding a new feature to Koha, some of the data is edited in a form. I based it off the news script.
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21:02 xarragon And I need to perform some massaging of the data, null value in the form is an empty string, but should be NULL in the database. Thus I need to check the input and convert it..
21:03 xarragon And I am wondering if that is the right way, or should I change the DB schema.. or use something Like HTML::FormHandler?
21:03 drojf evening
21:04 xarragon drojf: Good evening.
21:06 drojf hi xarragon
21:08 drojf rangi: are you taking over ES integration from eythian? i think i read that somewhere, but maybe i made it up :D
21:09 rangi yep, for the most part
21:14 drojf rangi: i can hardly resist doing a proof of concept for fulltext search, now that we have file upload and will get ES. i tend towards a separate index, not stuff it into the biblio record. any ideas against or in favour of that?
21:14 jcamins drojf: I recommend using Solr.
21:15 cait1 ?
21:15 drojf jcamins: two gateways to lucene on the same server?
21:17 rangi drojf: separate ES index is how I would do it
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21:17 rangi drojf: same index for mixing metadata ... but splitting metadata and data into different indices makes sense to me
21:18 drojf rangi: thanks. thats how i started too, then i was wondering if i was just complicating things
21:18 jcamins drojf: oops, sorry, I didn't finish my thought.
21:18 cait1 is there a wayto combine indexes for searching in ES?
21:18 jcamins drojf: and also perl-lucene and xalan.
21:18 jcamins And sphinx.
21:18 cait1 hm I think that's what sharding does in solr?
21:18 jcamins And... ummm...
21:19 jcamins I have only proposed five full-text search engines so far, and I might've made up one of them. Surely I can do better.
21:19 rangi xapian jcamins
21:19 drojf its one of several "todo under the christmas tree while i am not eating" projects. there won't be much time without me eating ;)
21:19 jcamins rangi: drat, I meant xapian not xalan, didn't I?
21:20 jcamins Oops.
21:20 jcamins swish-e!
21:20 jcamins drojf: so, yeah, I recommend using all of those for maximum parallelisation.
21:21 drojf jcamins: sounds great, will check it on the pi zero
21:23 drojf one of them per search engine. cloud!
21:24 drojf eythian: trains to amsterdam start at 39€. that's not too bad
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21:25 cait1 lucy?
21:25 cait1 i just like the name :)
21:42 eythian drojf: it's all a pretty small place really.
21:44 eythian I'd be inclined to put content for full text search into the regular index, but perhaps not search it by default, as it'll cause prioritisation problems with just bibliographic records possibly.
21:45 drojf i would have a separate fulltext search for now. we have metadata for a reason, nobody wants to read the whole contents by default to find whats relevant ;)
21:48 drojf i don't know what a lot of uploaded files and search thereof will actually do to koha. it's not supposed to be a repository. but with recent development it seems not to be a huge step to try… well. i'm curious
21:49 eythian Yeah. I have mixed opinions. Mostly I think something is needed to prevent electronic works being siloed.
21:49 drojf and i want to play with elasticsearch, that is how it actually started. i play better with a goal ;)
21:50 wizzyrea ^ most people do
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21:50 eythian And if that's best done through a system that people are already using, it may be worth sacrificing the purity of just being a metadata system.
21:51 drojf first thing i would like to have is adding fulltext, being able to find related record. that does not mean the actual pdf or whatever needs to be hidden in koha somewhere
21:51 eythian Fair enough. Full text searching was one of my "it should be used for this" thoughts.
21:52 eythian It will suit it well, even more if you can add semantic info that's not in the biblio record already. But that's probably hard.
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21:59 drojf there are people carefully digitizing stuff and spending hours correcting ocr results. thats something i have in mind for the beginning. things like "automatically rip broken text from pdf" are not that interesting. and once there is fulltext availabe, yeah there could be done all kinds of cool stuff with it
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22:38 drojf good night #koha
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22:44 rangi @later tell tcohen do you want me to set up the 3.22.x jenkins jobs?
22:44 huginn` rangi: The operation succeeded.
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