Time  Nick        Message
04:33 bora        hello, any one can tell me how to upgrade koha to latest version 3.20?
04:50 bora_       anyone can help me
04:50 bora_       i want to upgrad koha version to the latest v3.20
04:50 bora_       please help me ?
11:42 xarragon    Is it possible to hand off a resultset from a dbix::rs::search operation to TT's foreach loop?
11:43 xarragon    Or do I have to manually convert it to an array manually?
11:56 xarragon    Ah, I see. I need to use a while loop instead of foreach
12:25 drojf       hi #koha
12:45 cait        hi drojf :)
12:46 cait        @later tell tcohen hm spanish bug report - 15356 - could you take a look maybe?
12:46 huginn`     cait: The operation succeeded.
12:47 drojf       hi cait. doing the sunday shift? :)
12:48 cait        not sure.... but trying to empty out the inboxes :)
12:48 drojf       we accept spanish bug reports? :P
12:48 drojf       there would be a market for bug reports in germany too, probably
12:51 cait        not sur we do, but i thought maybe a nice ' we don't ' in spanish would work better
12:51 cait        was also not sure where to point htem too to report a problem in spanish if need be
13:22 tcohen      @wunder cordoba, argentina
13:22 huginn`     tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 31.2°C (10:20 AM ART on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising).
13:22 tcohen      brrr
13:22 drojf       hi tcohen
13:23 liw         @wunder torrevieja
13:23 huginn`     liw: The current temperature in Acequion, Torrevieja, Spain is 17.3°C (2:22 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling).
13:23 drojf       @wunder berlin, germany
13:23 huginn`     drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 5.0°C (1:50 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
13:23 drojf       i would switch with both of you ;)
13:24 liw         no need to switch, you can come here, plenty of space in this town
13:24 liw         also, beaches if you like that kind of thing
13:26 drojf       tempting!
13:28 tcohen      yeah, i'll prepare the asado
13:28 cait        @wunder Konstanz
13:28 huginn`     cait: The current temperature in Friedrichshafen, Germany is 8.0°C (2:20 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
13:28 * liw       wants to visit Friedrichshafen some day, for the Zeppelins
13:29 cait        :)
13:29 cait        I went there with eythian - there was an event at the dornier museum and we saw the zeppelin land opposite
13:29 cait        they are pretty cool to look at
13:29 cait        youcan also see them fly around here all the time
14:08 tcohen      Joubu: I discovered why i introduce that weird hidden character on this damn OS
16:15 eythian     liw: yeah, it was pretty cool
16:17 * cait      waves
16:38 liw         eythian, I envy you!
16:39 eythian     Didn't go for a ride in one as it was pretty expensive. Who knows, maybe next summer ☺
16:40 cait        :)
16:51 liw         eythian, :)
18:30 magnuse     @wunder boo
18:30 huginn`     magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0°C (7:20 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
18:31 eythian     Chilly
18:31 eythian     @wunder amsterdam
18:31 huginn`     eythian: Error: No such location could be found.
18:31 eythian     ...
18:32 eythian     @wunder amsterdam, netherlands
18:32 huginn`     eythian: The current temperature in Aalsmeerderbrug, Aalsmeerderbrug, Netherlands is 7.2°C (7:30 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
18:32 eythian     That's not the closest location to pull data from, I'd have thought
18:53 cait        @wunder Konstanz
18:53 huginn`     cait: The current temperature in Saint Gallen-Altenrhein, Germany is 0.0°C (7:20 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
18:53 cait        hm
18:53 cait        weird place heretoo
18:54 * magnuse   high-fives cait
18:54 cait        :)
18:54 drojf       @wunder berlin, germanxy
18:54 huginn`     drojf: Error: No such location could be found.
18:54 drojf       heh
18:55 drojf       @wunder berlin, germany
18:55 huginn`     drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 1.0°C (7:50 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
19:00 eythian     cait: it must take the latest nearby or something, given you've had two different places.
19:00 cait        hm not really 2 different probably
19:00 eythian     drojf: you should visit Amsterdam, it's not that cold
19:00 eythian     cait: they have different names
19:01 cait        eythian: but that one was completely new and it's not as close as others it usually shows
19:01 cait        saint gallen-altenrhein?
19:01 cait        ah. and Friedrichshafen
19:01 eythian     Yeah
19:01 cait        both are a unusual
19:01 drojf       eythian: not sure if i'd travel for 1° vs 7° ;)
19:01 cait        maybe they changed something?
19:01 cait        @wunder Konstanz
19:01 huginn`     cait: The current temperature in Saint Gallen-Altenrhein, Germany is 0.0°C (7:50 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
19:02 eythian     Right, which is why I suspect it's the latest result
19:02 eythian     drojf: time to find out for sure!
19:05 drojf       true :D don't think this year has time left for me to travel. but i'd love to come visit in 2016
19:06 drojf       it will be cold enough to test for quite a while :P
19:08 eythian     Yeah. I'm hoping to get to Norway between Christmas and new year's roughly. That'll be good and cold.
19:08 drojf       oh nice!
19:08 eythian     Probably should buy a scarf.
19:08 drojf       where do you wanna go?
19:08 eythian     A uni friend lives about an hour by bus out of Oslo.
19:09 eythian     May have to see it magnuse is free too ☺
19:11 eythian     (my current boots have pop out spikes for ice, I need a chance to test them out. Dunno how I found them in Wellington, it never freezes there.)
19:12 eythian     Suppose they'd also be good for muddy bush tracks
19:23 rangi       morning
19:24 cdickinson_ well, I guess I forgot to turn off my computer at home
19:45 mveron      Hi #koha
19:45 mveron      @wunder Allschwil
19:45 huginn`     mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 3.0°C (8:30 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
19:46 rangi       hi mveron
19:46 mveron      Hi rangi
19:46 mveron      :-)
19:46 * mveron    is hunting down translation issues...
19:46 rangi       always fun :)
19:47 cait        he is on a mission :)
19:47 mveron      Yes indeed. Sometimes translations sound lik done ba a robot...
19:48 mveron      cait: Yes, we cant sell a ILS with odd translations to schools  :-)
19:51 rangi       eythian: https://www.flickr.com/photos/4nitsirk/23608437681/in/album-72157659970319023/
19:52 eythian     Shut up 😉
19:52 rangi       hehe
20:12 wizzyrea    hi
20:21 rangi       @wunder nzwn
20:21 huginn`     rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
20:30 eythian     Hi wizzyrea
20:31 wizzyrea    ^.^ hi
20:38 xarragon    Am I really supposed to hand-code and hand-sanitize form field input? Or are we using some sort of framework to handle that?
20:40 wizzyrea    gonna have to be specific about the context there
20:40 wizzyrea    which form field, where
20:42 cait1       there is some javascript library to use client side I think - for required fields and similar (and that answremight not make sense because context :) )
21:01 xarragon    wizzyrea: I am adding a new feature to Koha, some of the data is edited in a form. I based it off the news script.
21:02 xarragon    And I need to perform some massaging of the data, null value in the form is an empty string, but should be NULL in the database. Thus I need to check the input and convert it..
21:03 xarragon    And I am wondering if that is the right way, or should I change the DB schema.. or use something Like HTML::FormHandler?
21:03 drojf       evening
21:04 xarragon    drojf: Good evening.
21:06 drojf       hi xarragon
21:08 drojf       rangi: are you taking over ES integration from eythian? i think i read that somewhere, but maybe i made it up :D
21:09 rangi       yep, for the most part
21:14 drojf       rangi: i can hardly resist doing a proof of concept for fulltext search, now that we have file upload and will get ES. i tend towards a separate index, not stuff it into the biblio record. any ideas against or in favour of that?
21:14 jcamins     drojf: I recommend using Solr.
21:15 cait1       ?
21:15 drojf       jcamins: two gateways to lucene on the same server?
21:17 rangi       drojf: separate ES index is how I would do it
21:17 rangi       drojf: same index for mixing metadata ... but splitting metadata and data into different indices makes sense to me
21:18 drojf       rangi: thanks. thats how i started too, then i was wondering if i was just complicating things
21:18 jcamins     drojf: oops, sorry, I didn't finish my thought.
21:18 cait1       is there a wayto combine indexes for searching in ES?
21:18 jcamins     drojf: and also perl-lucene and xalan.
21:18 jcamins     And sphinx.
21:18 cait1       hm I think that's what sharding does in solr?
21:18 jcamins     And... ummm...
21:19 jcamins     I have only proposed five full-text search engines so far, and I might've made up one of them. Surely I can do better.
21:19 rangi       xapian jcamins
21:19 drojf       its one of several "todo under the christmas tree while i am not eating" projects. there won't be much time without me eating ;)
21:19 jcamins     rangi: drat, I meant xapian not xalan, didn't I?
21:20 jcamins     Oops.
21:20 jcamins     swish-e!
21:20 jcamins     drojf: so, yeah, I recommend using all of those for maximum parallelisation.
21:21 drojf       jcamins: sounds great, will check it on the pi zero
21:23 drojf       one of them per search engine. cloud!
21:24 drojf       eythian: trains to amsterdam start at 39€. that's not too bad
21:25 cait1       lucy?
21:25 cait1       i just like the name :)
21:42 eythian     drojf: it's all a pretty small place really.
21:44 eythian     I'd be inclined to put content for full text search into the regular index, but perhaps not search it by default, as it'll cause prioritisation problems with just bibliographic records possibly.
21:45 drojf       i would have a separate fulltext search for now. we have metadata for a reason, nobody wants to read the whole contents by default to find whats relevant ;)
21:48 drojf       i don't know what a lot of uploaded files and search thereof will actually do to koha. it's not supposed to be a repository. but with recent development it seems not to be a huge step to try… well. i'm curious
21:49 eythian     Yeah. I have mixed opinions. Mostly I think something is needed to prevent electronic works being siloed.
21:49 drojf       and i want to play with elasticsearch, that is how it actually started. i play better with a goal ;)
21:50 wizzyrea    ^ most people do
21:50 eythian     And if that's best done through a system that people are already using, it may be worth sacrificing the purity of just being a metadata system.
21:51 drojf       first thing i would like to have is adding fulltext, being able to find related record. that does not mean the actual pdf or whatever needs to be hidden in koha somewhere
21:51 eythian     Fair enough. Full text searching was one of my "it should be used for this" thoughts.
21:52 eythian     It will suit it well, even more if you can add semantic info that's not in the biblio record already. But that's probably hard.
21:59 drojf       there are people carefully digitizing stuff and spending hours correcting ocr results. thats something i have in mind for the beginning. things like "automatically rip broken text from pdf" are not that interesting. and once there is fulltext availabe, yeah there could be done all kinds of cool stuff with it
22:38 drojf       good night #koha
22:44 rangi       @later tell tcohen do you want me to set up the 3.22.x jenkins jobs?
22:44 huginn`     rangi: The operation succeeded.