Time  Nick        Message
22:44 huginn`     rangi: The operation succeeded.
22:44 rangi       @later tell tcohen do you want me to set up the 3.22.x jenkins jobs?
22:38 drojf       good night #koha
21:59 drojf       there are people carefully digitizing stuff and spending hours correcting ocr results. thats something i have in mind for the beginning. things like "automatically rip broken text from pdf" are not that interesting. and once there is fulltext availabe, yeah there could be done all kinds of cool stuff with it
21:52 eythian     It will suit it well, even more if you can add semantic info that's not in the biblio record already. But that's probably hard.
21:51 eythian     Fair enough. Full text searching was one of my "it should be used for this" thoughts.
21:51 drojf       first thing i would like to have is adding fulltext, being able to find related record. that does not mean the actual pdf or whatever needs to be hidden in koha somewhere
21:50 eythian     And if that's best done through a system that people are already using, it may be worth sacrificing the purity of just being a metadata system.
21:50 wizzyrea    ^ most people do
21:49 drojf       and i want to play with elasticsearch, that is how it actually started. i play better with a goal ;)
21:49 eythian     Yeah. I have mixed opinions. Mostly I think something is needed to prevent electronic works being siloed.
21:48 drojf       i don't know what a lot of uploaded files and search thereof will actually do to koha. it's not supposed to be a repository. but with recent development it seems not to be a huge step to try… well. i'm curious
21:45 drojf       i would have a separate fulltext search for now. we have metadata for a reason, nobody wants to read the whole contents by default to find whats relevant ;)
21:44 eythian     I'd be inclined to put content for full text search into the regular index, but perhaps not search it by default, as it'll cause prioritisation problems with just bibliographic records possibly.
21:42 eythian     drojf: it's all a pretty small place really.
21:25 cait1       i just like the name :)
21:25 cait1       lucy?
21:24 drojf       eythian: trains to amsterdam start at 39€. that's not too bad
21:23 drojf       one of them per search engine. cloud!
21:21 drojf       jcamins: sounds great, will check it on the pi zero
21:20 jcamins     drojf: so, yeah, I recommend using all of those for maximum parallelisation.
21:20 jcamins     swish-e!
21:20 jcamins     Oops.
21:19 jcamins     rangi: drat, I meant xapian not xalan, didn't I?
21:19 drojf       its one of several "todo under the christmas tree while i am not eating" projects. there won't be much time without me eating ;)
21:19 rangi       xapian jcamins
21:19 jcamins     I have only proposed five full-text search engines so far, and I might've made up one of them. Surely I can do better.
21:18 jcamins     And... ummm...
21:18 cait1       hm I think that's what sharding does in solr?
21:18 jcamins     And sphinx.
21:18 jcamins     drojf: and also perl-lucene and xalan.
21:18 cait1       is there a wayto combine indexes for searching in ES?
21:18 jcamins     drojf: oops, sorry, I didn't finish my thought.
21:18 drojf       rangi: thanks. thats how i started too, then i was wondering if i was just complicating things
21:17 rangi       drojf: same index for mixing metadata ... but splitting metadata and data into different indices makes sense to me
21:17 rangi       drojf: separate ES index is how I would do it
21:15 drojf       jcamins: two gateways to lucene on the same server?
21:15 cait1       ?
21:14 jcamins     drojf: I recommend using Solr.
21:14 drojf       rangi: i can hardly resist doing a proof of concept for fulltext search, now that we have file upload and will get ES. i tend towards a separate index, not stuff it into the biblio record. any ideas against or in favour of that?
21:09 rangi       yep, for the most part
21:08 drojf       rangi: are you taking over ES integration from eythian? i think i read that somewhere, but maybe i made it up :D
21:06 drojf       hi xarragon
21:04 xarragon    drojf: Good evening.
21:03 drojf       evening
21:03 xarragon    And I am wondering if that is the right way, or should I change the DB schema.. or use something Like HTML::FormHandler?
21:02 xarragon    And I need to perform some massaging of the data, null value in the form is an empty string, but should be NULL in the database. Thus I need to check the input and convert it..
21:01 xarragon    wizzyrea: I am adding a new feature to Koha, some of the data is edited in a form. I based it off the news script.
20:42 cait1       there is some javascript library to use client side I think - for required fields and similar (and that answremight not make sense because context :) )
20:40 wizzyrea    which form field, where
20:40 wizzyrea    gonna have to be specific about the context there
20:38 xarragon    Am I really supposed to hand-code and hand-sanitize form field input? Or are we using some sort of framework to handle that?
20:31 wizzyrea    ^.^ hi
20:30 eythian     Hi wizzyrea
20:21 huginn`     rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on December 14, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
20:21 rangi       @wunder nzwn
20:12 wizzyrea    hi
19:52 rangi       hehe
19:52 eythian     Shut up 😉
19:51 rangi       eythian: https://www.flickr.com/photos/4nitsirk/23608437681/in/album-72157659970319023/
19:48 mveron      cait: Yes, we cant sell a ILS with odd translations to schools  :-)
19:47 mveron      Yes indeed. Sometimes translations sound lik done ba a robot...
19:47 cait        he is on a mission :)
19:46 rangi       always fun :)
19:46 * mveron    is hunting down translation issues...
19:46 mveron      :-)
19:46 mveron      Hi rangi
19:46 rangi       hi mveron
19:45 huginn`     mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 3.0°C (8:30 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
19:45 mveron      @wunder Allschwil
19:45 mveron      Hi #koha
19:24 cdickinson_ well, I guess I forgot to turn off my computer at home
19:23 rangi       morning
19:12 eythian     Suppose they'd also be good for muddy bush tracks
19:11 eythian     (my current boots have pop out spikes for ice, I need a chance to test them out. Dunno how I found them in Wellington, it never freezes there.)
19:09 eythian     May have to see it magnuse is free too ☺
19:08 eythian     A uni friend lives about an hour by bus out of Oslo.
19:08 drojf       where do you wanna go?
19:08 eythian     Probably should buy a scarf.
19:08 drojf       oh nice!
19:08 eythian     Yeah. I'm hoping to get to Norway between Christmas and new year's roughly. That'll be good and cold.
19:06 drojf       it will be cold enough to test for quite a while :P
19:05 drojf       true :D don't think this year has time left for me to travel. but i'd love to come visit in 2016
19:02 eythian     drojf: time to find out for sure!
19:02 eythian     Right, which is why I suspect it's the latest result
19:01 huginn`     cait: The current temperature in Saint Gallen-Altenrhein, Germany is 0.0°C (7:50 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
19:01 cait        @wunder Konstanz
19:01 cait        maybe they changed something?
19:01 drojf       eythian: not sure if i'd travel for 1° vs 7° ;)
19:01 cait        both are a unusual
19:01 eythian     Yeah
19:01 cait        ah. and Friedrichshafen
19:01 cait        saint gallen-altenrhein?
19:01 cait        eythian: but that one was completely new and it's not as close as others it usually shows
19:00 eythian     cait: they have different names
19:00 eythian     drojf: you should visit Amsterdam, it's not that cold
19:00 cait        hm not really 2 different probably
19:00 eythian     cait: it must take the latest nearby or something, given you've had two different places.
18:55 huginn`     drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 1.0°C (7:50 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
18:55 drojf       @wunder berlin, germany
18:54 drojf       heh
18:54 huginn`     drojf: Error: No such location could be found.
18:54 drojf       @wunder berlin, germanxy
18:54 cait        :)
18:54 * magnuse   high-fives cait
18:53 cait        weird place heretoo
18:53 cait        hm
18:53 huginn`     cait: The current temperature in Saint Gallen-Altenrhein, Germany is 0.0°C (7:20 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
18:53 cait        @wunder Konstanz
18:32 eythian     That's not the closest location to pull data from, I'd have thought
18:32 huginn`     eythian: The current temperature in Aalsmeerderbrug, Aalsmeerderbrug, Netherlands is 7.2°C (7:30 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
18:32 eythian     @wunder amsterdam, netherlands
18:31 eythian     ...
18:31 huginn`     eythian: Error: No such location could be found.
18:31 eythian     @wunder amsterdam
18:31 eythian     Chilly
18:30 huginn`     magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0°C (7:20 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
18:30 magnuse     @wunder boo
16:51 liw         eythian, :)
16:40 cait        :)
16:39 eythian     Didn't go for a ride in one as it was pretty expensive. Who knows, maybe next summer ☺
16:38 liw         eythian, I envy you!
16:17 * cait      waves
16:15 eythian     liw: yeah, it was pretty cool
14:08 tcohen      Joubu: I discovered why i introduce that weird hidden character on this damn OS
13:29 cait        youcan also see them fly around here all the time
13:29 cait        they are pretty cool to look at
13:29 cait        I went there with eythian - there was an event at the dornier museum and we saw the zeppelin land opposite
13:29 cait        :)
13:28 * liw       wants to visit Friedrichshafen some day, for the Zeppelins
13:28 huginn`     cait: The current temperature in Friedrichshafen, Germany is 8.0°C (2:20 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
13:28 cait        @wunder Konstanz
13:28 tcohen      yeah, i'll prepare the asado
13:26 drojf       tempting!
13:24 liw         also, beaches if you like that kind of thing
13:24 liw         no need to switch, you can come here, plenty of space in this town
13:23 drojf       i would switch with both of you ;)
13:23 huginn`     drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 5.0°C (1:50 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
13:23 drojf       @wunder berlin, germany
13:23 huginn`     liw: The current temperature in Acequion, Torrevieja, Spain is 17.3°C (2:22 PM CET on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling).
13:23 liw         @wunder torrevieja
13:22 drojf       hi tcohen
13:22 tcohen      brrr
13:22 huginn`     tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 31.2°C (10:20 AM ART on December 13, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising).
13:22 tcohen      @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:51 cait        was also not sure where to point htem too to report a problem in spanish if need be
12:51 cait        not sur we do, but i thought maybe a nice ' we don't ' in spanish would work better
12:48 drojf       there would be a market for bug reports in germany too, probably
12:48 drojf       we accept spanish bug reports? :P
12:48 cait        not sure.... but trying to empty out the inboxes :)
12:47 drojf       hi cait. doing the sunday shift? :)
12:46 huginn`     cait: The operation succeeded.
12:46 cait        @later tell tcohen hm spanish bug report - 15356 - could you take a look maybe?
12:45 cait        hi drojf :)
12:25 drojf       hi #koha
11:56 xarragon    Ah, I see. I need to use a while loop instead of foreach
11:43 xarragon    Or do I have to manually convert it to an array manually?
11:42 xarragon    Is it possible to hand off a resultset from a dbix::rs::search operation to TT's foreach loop?
04:50 bora_       please help me ?
04:50 bora_       i want to upgrad koha version to the latest v3.20
04:50 bora_       anyone can help me
04:33 bora        hello, any one can tell me how to upgrade koha to latest version 3.20?