IRC log for #koha, 2014-02-21

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00:24 wajasu been testing bug 11211.  got through steps 1-4.  does anyone know if i need to checkout an item and run the fines job after the due date and see if it takes into consideration any "closed" days?
00:25 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar
00:25 wajasu maybe a test would be in order.
00:31 wajasu its times like these that i wish i could just code a test against modules.  CreateBorrower, CatalogItem,  CheckoutItemWithSpecifiedDueDate, CalcFineAsOfDate.  Then Do the same but with CreateCalendarEventOn, and CalcFineAsOfDate to see affects.
00:48 wizzyrea you people are nice, I appreciate you.
00:50 dcook Wha?
00:50 * dcook thinks wizzyrea is in the wrong channel
00:50 dcook Nah, people are heaps nice. You're pretty rad yourself, wizzyrea
00:51 wizzyrea pft
00:54 dcook O_O
01:30 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org. Koha 3.14.3 is the latest release! The next general IRC meeting is on 5 March 2014 18:00 UTC.
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04:09 * dcook makes some nice just for something different
04:09 dcook Figuratively...or textually that is...
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06:20 paxed ffs. tried to make 'ä' and 'a' separate by editing word-phrase-utf.chr, and now zebra can't find anything if the search string contains a 'ä' ...
06:23 dcook That's not fun. You're probably better off using ICU indexing if you have diacritics
06:27 paxed dcook: ugh. what files whould i need to touch for icu?
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06:27 paxed i'm really starting to hate zebra
06:35 brendan_ icu?
06:35 wahanui somebody said icu was a good idea.
07:02 cait paxed: check the wiki for instructions
07:02 cait dcook: standard icu won't treat a and ä differently
07:03 cait dcook: it's kinda the point of it that it will make it possible to search all things with the base characters - but people here don't dislike that
07:09 cait paxed: we also have umlauts in German - people don't seem to have a problem with the fact that we don't differentiate in search - I have one library using ICU because they have Hebrew records
07:10 cait paxed: if you have non latin scripts in your database there is no way around ICU
07:10 paxed cait: because German is not Finnish.
07:10 cait no it is not
07:10 cait but it's still different characters
07:10 paxed ä is totally different case
07:10 cait it is here too
07:12 paxed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_alphabet vs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_alphabet
07:12 cait well they don't list the umlauts, they are still there :)
07:13 paxed in finnish ä is not a with an umlaut. it's a separate letter.
07:13 cait i don't know finnish really, but you can't replay a and ä in german words
07:13 cait the sound may be similar, but the word is not
07:14 paxed doesn't seem to matter, if your users are happy with collating ä and a.
07:14 cait i think the results are still not too bad, because there is the rest of the word as well
07:14 cait and there is fuzzy searching nowadays
07:14 cait so people are used that non exact matches might show up as well
07:15 cait and some databases do work like that as well
07:15 cait but that's my guess
07:15 paxed (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
07:15 cait i think what you want to do is possible, but you will have to change things
07:15 paxed i'd be happy to change things, if the things were documented ...
07:16 cait you might want to start here
07:16 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]of_Arabic_records
07:17 cait ICU is not Koha specific or even Zebra - i think there is documentation on the web
07:18 cait http://site.icu-project.org/home#TOC-What-is-ICU-
07:20 cait http://www.indexdata.com/zebra[…]uchain-files.html
07:22 * dcook thinks ICU is related to IBM
07:24 dcook Hmm, yeah, I don't know why you'd necessarily want to differentiate between ä and a
07:24 dcook Err "need" rather than "want"
07:25 paxed shall i flip the table again?
07:25 dcook Only if it's dramatic?
07:25 cait time for work bye
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07:25 dcook ta, cait
07:26 dcook Anyway, my day is over. Good luck, paxed
07:26 paxed because "sää" and "saa", for example. totally different meanings
07:27 paxed not the same word. not pronounced the same. not the same meaning. not ordered in any other way except the correct alphabetical order.
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07:36 * magnuse waves
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07:38 reiveune hello
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07:43 alex_a bonjour
07:44 magnuse bonjour reiveune alex_a
07:44 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:44 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 8.3°C (8:44 AM CET on February 21, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
07:44 magnuse @wunder boo
07:44 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 21, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -14.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Falling).
07:44 reiveune salut magnuse
07:44 magnuse windchill--
07:47 alex_a bonjour magnuse
07:47 alex_a et reiveune
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07:59 huginn` GERMS!!!!
07:59 wahanui i guess germs is http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg
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08:00 Joubu hello
08:00 wahanui bidet, Joubu
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08:01 cait guten morgen #koha
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08:16 magnuse god morgen cait & #koha
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08:43 paxed ahh. so <transform rule="NFD"/><transform rule="[:Nonspacing Mark:] Remove"/><transform rule="NFC"/> turns all accented letters into ones without accents.
08:50 paxed i have no idea how i'd do remove accepts, except from ö, ä and å.
08:50 paxed accents*
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09:39 paxed magnuse: how do you handle searching for å etc?
09:41 paxed magnuse: for example, do you differentiate between "da" and "då" when searching?
09:42 paxed ah, bad example as it seems both are the same word, just alt forms.
09:50 magnuse paxed: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]87b2e2feb;hb=HEAD - never had any complaints
10:01 paxed magnuse: that's for _sorting_, not for searching.
10:04 paxed for example, searching for "rölli" returns also "rolling stones", because zebra matches ö and o.
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10:25 magnuse paxed: well as i said, no complaints
10:26 paxed bah.
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12:24 mveron Hi #koha
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12:33 cait hi mveron
12:33 mveron Hi cait :-)
12:34 mveron I'm struggling with advanced search in the OPAC, restricting to languages...
12:35 mveron Language code in 040 a is ger
12:35 mveron But I get no results
12:38 mveron ...ah, I mistaked, forget this... :-)
12:48 tcohen morning #koha
12:53 cait tcohen: morning :)
12:53 cait mveron: sorry, was afk
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12:57 francharb good morning #koha
12:58 cait hi francharb
12:58 francharb o/ cait
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13:12 oleonard Hi #koha
13:16 cait h oleonard :)
13:16 cait posible you already fixed 10751 in one of your patches?
13:18 oleonard Hm, I don't think so
13:19 cait ah ok
13:19 oleonard Thanks for pointing it out, I hadn't seen that one on my list
13:19 cait i was testing suggestions earlier and looked at the related bugs
13:19 cait thought it might be included in the validation patches, but couldn't find the right one
13:28 ashimema ooh.. has someone been tidying the wiki?  I've noticed a whole load of extensions have disapeared and some of my favourite one's have been installed.
13:29 * cait is innocent
13:29 cait but i noticed it looked tidier this morning
13:31 cait hm mabe i just imagined it
13:31 cait the list of categories on editing is still there...
13:31 oleonard Hi ashimema
13:34 ashimema yeah.. I think I got confused..
13:34 ashimema too
13:34 ashimema i thought there were more extentions installed.. but now I'm less sure.
13:34 ashimema Hi oleonard
13:35 cait khall++ :)
13:35 khall : )
13:35 khall mornin cait et al!
13:36 cait on some happy news... i am testing koha notices today, all emails koha can send and so far it works quite well :)
13:37 khall excellent!
13:37 magnuse yay
13:37 magnuse cait: testing on master?
13:37 cait yep
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13:51 Joubu khall: I answered you on bug 11689 ;)
13:51 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11689 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , New missing statuses is not well managed
13:51 khall thanks!
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14:27 cait thx oleonard!
14:28 cait khall: also tested the patron registraton feature - it's nice with the one time URL :)
14:28 * oleonard validates all the things
14:28 khall thanks!
14:28 cait it's been sent from the admin address - because branch can be optional?
14:29 cait i was testing from which address each mail is sent :)
14:32 khall pretty much, I wouldn't be hard to make it try the branch address first though
14:33 cait hm i might file an enh request if that's ok?
14:33 khall sure!
14:33 cait makes me feel more thorough about my investigations :)
14:36 khall lol ; )
14:38 cait bug 11813
14:38 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11813 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Send 'Opac self registration verification' email from branch address if possible
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14:54 Joubu khall: I started a patch for the constant in C4::Serials, I didn't see you submit one.
14:54 khall sorry! I should have said something in channel. If yours is better than mine just depricate it
14:54 Joubu Do you see an inconvenience to create another report to add the constant statuses?
14:55 Joubu Like that, I can submit my followup on top of yours
14:56 Joubu khall: Both are complementary I think. You manage all statuses, I dealt with missing statuses only.
14:56 khall excellent!
14:57 khall that sounds like a good plan Joubu
14:58 Joubu khall: So, I am going to open a new report with your patch and mine
14:58 khall duly noted!
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15:08 cait Joubu: i wondered earlier - is it still possible to start a subscription at not the first issue? i tried with a monthly frequency, volume issue pattern
15:08 cait but whatever i set the inner coutner to, it didn't seem to change how the prediction was made
15:16 Joubu cait: I'm trying to understand the question ;)
15:16 cait i think i was confused by the inner counter
15:16 cait i am not sure what it's used for actually - it used to be the current number... I think
15:16 cait when you select 1/month
15:17 jajm cait, what do you mean by "not the first issue" ?
15:17 cait you are starting to use serials mid of the year
15:17 cait or you subscribe late and don't receive the first isssue
15:17 cait i mean you could also delete the first issues... ubt it might be a bit annoying for something that is like weekly
15:18 jajm cait, isn't the "Begins with" what you are looking for ?
15:18 cait the frequency i tried was 1/month
15:18 cait issues 12
15:18 cait subscription start 1st february
15:19 cait numbering pattern volume, number
15:20 cait then you have: Begins with and Inner counter to be set
15:20 cait and i don't know what inner counter does
15:20 cait it seems to work when i set Begins with 2014 2 - but what is inner counter for then?
15:21 jajm cait, innercounter is used when every > 1, innercounter is incremented for each serial received, and when innercounter > every, the number (X, Y, or Z) is incremented
15:22 cait hm jajm - i am sorry, i don't understand yet
15:22 cait could you give an example?
15:23 jajm cait, say you have a numbering pattern which works like this: Vol 1 No 1, Vol 1 No 2, Vol 1 No 3, Vol 2 No 1, ... (Vol {X} No {Y})
15:23 cait ok
15:23 jajm X has to be incremented every 3 serials (every = 3)
15:24 cait hm that's what the rollover at used to be
15:24 cait i think
15:24 jajm when the first serial is received, innercounter = 1, 2nd serial: innercounter = 2, ..., 4th serial, innercounter = 4 (> 3) then innercounter is reset to 1 and X is incremented
15:25 cait i see how that would work in the advanced pattern - but why show it when i don't have it open?
15:25 cait i tried setting several values and the prediction pattern is always the same
15:25 jajm if you want your subscription to start at Vol 1 No 3 for example, you will have to set innercounter
15:26 Joubu cait: there are some examples on the manual: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]packerserial.html
15:26 cait so the first example
15:26 cait why is innr counter 2?
15:28 jajm cait, because Y begins with 3, so we have to set innercounter in order for X to be incremented when Y will be reset to 1
15:28 cait ah
15:28 cait hm that could cause qite some trouble with people forgetting
15:28 cait because the prediction is the same, when you forget it and when not
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15:30 cait hmmi see how it works now - thank you jajm
15:30 cait better train people to always test the prediction pattern with lots of issues, to see the rollover
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15:31 cait jajm++
15:31 cait Joubu++
15:31 cait i made a screenshot, so I don't forget :)
15:31 cait did you see bug 11637 i reported?
15:31 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11637 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , No way to prevent a prediction date for the next issue in serials
15:32 cait it's a small regression i think - or i couldn't figure out how to do it
15:34 jajm cait, yes it's a regression, I was not aware of this 'XXX' behaviour when I made these changes
15:36 cait is there a chance for a patch? I think it might be a bit too hard for me, not knowing exactly how it all works together now
15:36 cait ... not that i understood the serials code before the changes
15:40 jajm :)
15:43 jajm cait, maybe we can choose something different from "XXX"... maybe "N/A" ?
15:44 cait i am not attached to XXX
15:44 cait :)
15:44 cait Exact date unknown?
15:44 cait I think the problem might be that the XXX might hide in the pl files
15:44 cait no reason to not make that nicer, but maybe more work to switch to a translatable string
15:45 cait or just: date unknown?
15:45 cait native speakers? oleonard?
15:45 jajm cait, not a problem, since bug 8044 will be pushed to master soon, right? :)
15:45 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Localization for Perl scripts and modules
15:46 oleonard cait: What are we talking about?
15:46 cait when you have an irregular subscription, you don't know when the next issue will arrive
15:46 cait so in the past the expected date got set to XXX
15:47 cait jajm: no idea about 8044 - i wouldn't rely on it right now ;)
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15:47 cait actually i didn't realize until right now that it was to solve htis
15:47 cait hm.
15:47 cait oleonard: and we are discussing better options for XXX
15:48 cait jajm: i think n/a means not available - wondering if patrons might think it will never get published then
15:52 oleonard n/a means "not applicable"
15:53 francharb cait, during my trainings, I explain the innercounter this way : you have to define it only when you have a numbering that goes back to 1 (usually, Vol. N°) and when you start receiving not at the first issue of the numbering of the current year. Inner counter is the number of issues you would have received if you had started to receive it from the beginning of the numbering this year.
15:54 francharb hope it's understandable... ;)
15:55 cait francharb: it is, but i would have expected it to be set in the same column as the letter it belongs to
15:55 cait http://manual.koha-community.o[…]packerserial.html
15:55 cait i would have set it under Number
15:56 francharb funny, not me
15:56 cait different minds :)
15:56 francharb different logic
15:56 cait but it's ok, i think i got it now, need to tinker a bit more
15:56 francharb in the end, no matter you put it, the inner counter works for every variable I think
15:56 cait oleonard: aaah, ok, i will have to check my translations :)
15:57 francharb there is only 1 inner conter
15:57 cait francharb: hm?
15:58 francharb cait, only one inner counter to rull them all
15:58 francharb :)
15:58 cait so why show three input fields?
15:58 francharb good point
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15:59 francharb cait, I may be wrong...
16:00 cait maybe it's for a very weird pattern we can't imagine right now :)
16:00 francharb not sure because I think the database only have one innercounter field...
16:00 francharb lets check
16:00 cait it used t have one for each variable
16:01 cait haven#t checked the new structure yet
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16:01 francharb I'm wrong
16:02 francharb there are 3 innerloops column in the subscription tables
16:02 francharb anyway, so far I only had to work with 1 inner counter
16:02 francharb ;)
16:03 cait that's good :)
16:03 cait i think i understand better now
16:03 cait :)
16:03 francharb :)
16:10 cait francharb++ :)
16:11 francharb thanks :)
16:11 oleonard dbs: Bug 11786 is ready for signoff is it not?
16:11 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11786 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Improve RDFa schema.org mappings in prog and bootstrap
16:14 cait oleonard++ too :)
16:14 dbs oleonard: I believe so
16:15 dbs Is there anything else I need to do?
16:16 oleonard dbs: Assign it to yourself and change the status to "needs signoff"
16:18 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7372: (follow-up) remove last traces of roadtype table and admin pages <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]edac56447c2b6fa75> / Bug 7372: DBRev 3.15.00.018 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a22a15d68b199c938> / Bug 7372: Move road types from the roadtype table to the ROADTYPE AV <http://git.koha-community.org/gitwe
16:19 oleonard Hm, so much for Bug 11770...
16:19 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11770 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Use validation plugin when creating new road type
16:20 cait oleonard: oups.
16:20 cait oleonard: but it's still nice to see it die somehow
16:20 * cait sends oleonard cookies
16:23 jenkins_koha Starting build #357 for job master_maria (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #355 21 hr ago)
16:24 * oleonard sits patiently waiting for the cookies to arrive
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16:27 cait hehe
16:27 cait have a good weekend everyone :)
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16:38 dbs oleonard: will do
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16:49 dbs oleonard: okay, I think bug 11786 is in the right state now :)
16:49 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11786 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dan, Needs Signoff , Improve RDFa schema.org mappings in prog and bootstrap
16:50 oleonard thanks dbs. Now the bug will show up in the "needs signoff" queue and hopefully attract some attention.
17:02 dbs oleonard++ # thank you!
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17:23 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
17:23 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
17:23 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #357: FIXED in 1 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/357/
17:23 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7372: Move road types from the roadtype table to the ROADTYPE AV
17:23 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7372: DBRev 3.15.00.018
17:23 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7372: (follow-up) remove last traces of roadtype table and admin pages
17:23 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7372 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , RoadTypes should be folded into Authorised Values
17:24 * cait waves
17:29 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11562: re-sort sysprefs.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1f4093782ac7925a1>
17:30 jenkins_koha Starting build #358 for job master_maria (previous build: FIXED)
17:47 JesseM koha-communtiy.org is down again
17:47 JesseM koha-community.org  :)
17:49 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10580: (follow-up) tweak wording about looking for zebrasrv & zebraidx <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3c7b9d839946946c1> / Bug 10580: adjust Makefile.PL to reflect that Zebra no longer optional in Koha setup <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d04aa8aecc5652d06>
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18:17 wajasu pianotuner. got a question about testing bug 11211
18:17 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar
18:19 oleonard wajasu: pianohacker.
18:19 wahanui i think pianohacker is a Dune fan, it seems.
18:19 wajasu ahh ;)
18:26 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #358: SUCCESS in 57 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/358/
18:26 jenkins_koha Jonathan Druart: Bug 11562: re-sort sysprefs.sql
18:26 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11562 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , QA: the sysprefs.sql is not correctly sorted
18:29 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11799: Housekeeping: Remove _biblionumber_sth from VirtualShelves.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b033b5179633589da>
18:32 jenkins_koha Starting build #359 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:39 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9677 - Style button on notices and slips page with Bootstrap <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5f3bd3add688deedc>
18:44 wajasu pianohacker: got some questions on testing bug 11211
18:44 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar
18:46 wajasu maybe someone else can help.  he wants me to test calculcation code based onthe calendar event i create.  i am guessing he means the staticfines.pl and fines.pl scripts.
18:46 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1641: SUCCESS in 2 hr 22 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1641/
18:46 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7372: Move road types from the roadtype table to the ROADTYPE AV
18:46 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7372: DBRev 3.15.00.018
18:46 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7372: (follow-up) remove last traces of roadtype table and admin pages
18:46 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7372 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , RoadTypes should be folded into Authorised Values
18:48 wajasu i suppose i could  run the scripts after checking out an item making it overdue and see the calculation results before and after to see if the holiday is taken into consideration.
18:49 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11256: (follow-up) tweak description of the OpacMaxItemsToDisplay syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3489bab93010dd7a3> / Bug 11256: DBRev 3.15.00.019 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dcc4fb8f601168414> / Bug 11256: Opac: Set a number of items to display on a biblio detail page - bootstrap <http://git.koh
18:50 wajasu whats the difference between fines.pl and staticfines.pl?
18:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #1642 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:58 oleonard jcamins: Around?
18:59 jcamins Sort of. What's up?
18:59 oleonard Got a weird problem that is stumping me... I'll lay it out and you can think about it if you have time.
18:59 jcamins Sure.
19:00 oleonard In the staff client, do a search, click to view the details for one of the titles--one with items. From the Edit menu choose "Delete record."
19:01 oleonard An alert appears warning me that I can't delete, but the page redirects to the delete page anyway
19:01 oleonard If I navigate directly to that detail page the delete action is correctly blocked.
19:01 oleonard The problem only happens when the 'browse results' widget is active.
19:02 oleonard ...hence me bugging you.
19:02 jcamins Hmm.
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19:04 jcamins oleonard: we're using return false and we should be using ev.preventDefault();
19:04 oleonard That's what I thought too, but changing it didn't work.
19:04 jcamins Oh.
19:04 jcamins Hm.
19:06 jcamins I'll have to think about it, because I've never seen anything like that.
19:07 oleonard thanks
19:11 oleonard jcamins: I think I've got it. In browser.js:
19:11 oleonard $('a[href*="biblionumber="]').click(function (ev) {
19:11 oleonard that's picking up the delete link
19:11 jcamins Ah, yeah.
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19:23 oleonard Bug 11817
19:23 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11817 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Staff client next/previous browse JavaScript interferes with other JS functions
19:30 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #359: SUCCESS in 57 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/359/
19:30 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10580: adjust Makefile.PL to reflect that Zebra no longer optional in Koha setup
19:30 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10580: (follow-up) tweak wording about looking for zebrasrv & zebraidx
19:30 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 11799: Housekeeping: Remove _biblionumber_sth from VirtualShelves.pm
19:30 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9677 - Style button on notices and slips page with Bootstrap
19:30 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10580 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Remove NoZebra reference from Makefile.pl
19:30 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11799 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Housekeeping: Remove _biblionumber_sth from VirtualShelves.pm
19:30 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9677 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Style button on notices and slips page with Bootstrap
19:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #360 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
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19:49 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11471: Display the currency for baskets in a basketgroup <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]51e393838c13560c4>
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20:19 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11789 - Use validation plugin when creating new list <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1479aab6425be75f9>
20:24 cait gmcharlt++
20:32 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #360: SUCCESS in 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/360/
20:32 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11256: Opac: Set a number of items to display on a biblio detail page.
20:32 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11256: Opac: Set a number of items to display on a biblio detail page - bootstrap
20:32 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11256: DBRev 3.15.00.019
20:32 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11256: (follow-up) tweak description of the OpacMaxItemsToDisplay syspref
20:32 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11256 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Set a number of items to display on a biblio detail page
20:37 gmcharlt oleonard: lazyweb time - what's the appropriate CSS close to use for a warning message to accompany a form input in Bootstrap?
20:37 gmcharlt *class
20:37 oleonard I'm not sure what you mean... what kind of message?
20:37 gmcharlt apropos of 10865, in the OPAC list edit form
20:38 gmcharlt something to the effect of "The library has turned off the ability to create new public lists.  Please note that if you change your list to private, you will not be able to make it public again."
20:38 gmcharlt next to the category drop-down
20:38 jenkins_koha Starting build #361 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:38 jcamins .alert
20:39 oleonard Not for a message which is inline with the form if I understand gmcharlt correctly
20:39 gmcharlt yeah, I'm thinking inline
20:39 jcamins Oh, no idea.
20:41 oleonard Out of the box Bootstrap has <span class="help-inline"> or <span class="help-block"> for text accompanying inputs, but those are basically unstyled
20:41 oleonard so I think we're looking at adding some custom style
20:42 gmcharlt I'm about to put up a follow-up to that bug; mind if I leave it to you to style it?
20:42 oleonard Not at all
20:42 * oleonard runs away
20:42 gmcharlt whew!
20:42 gmcharlt caught him in time! ;)
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20:53 wajasu is that libdbix-class-timestamp-perl only available on wheezy?  i was going to install it on squeeze to test master as I got an error  when testing.
20:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1642: SUCCESS in 2 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1642/
20:54 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11562: re-sort sysprefs.sql
20:54 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10580: adjust Makefile.PL to reflect that Zebra no longer optional in Koha setup
20:54 pastebot "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "error while navigating patron package::stash" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/136
20:54 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10580: (follow-up) tweak wording about looking for zebrasrv & zebraidx
20:54 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 11799: Housekeeping: Remove _biblionumber_sth from VirtualShelves.pm
20:54 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9677 - Style button on notices and slips page with Bootstrap
20:54 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11256: Opac: Set a number of items to display on a biblio detail page.
20:54 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11562 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , QA: the sysprefs.sql is not correctly sorted
20:54 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11256: Opac: Set a number of items to display on a biblio detail page - bootstrap
20:54 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11256: DBRev 3.15.00.019
20:54 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10580 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Remove NoZebra reference from Makefile.pl
20:54 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11256: (follow-up) tweak description of the OpacMaxItemsToDisplay syspref
20:54 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11799 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Housekeeping: Remove _biblionumber_sth from VirtualShelves.pm
20:54 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9677 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Style button on notices and slips page with Bootstrap
20:54 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11256 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Set a number of items to display on a biblio detail page
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20:56 wajasu gmcharlt: is the DBIx:Class::Schema:Loader required and if so does that mean we are targetting wheezy for the upcoming debian only? (see last 2 irc lines)
20:57 gmcharlt one second while I look at the specifics
20:57 gmcharlt but the general answer is that squeeze is going away in a few short months regardless
20:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #1643 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:58 gmcharlt er, libdbix-class-schema-loader-perl is available in squeeze
20:59 wajasu i couldn't find anything for squeeze.  https://packages.debian.org/se[…]ass-schema-loader
20:59 wajasu got a better whay to search.
20:59 gmcharlt remember that packaged perl modules have their names end in -perl
20:59 gmcharlt https://packages.debian.org/se[…]chema-loader-perl
20:59 wajasu ahh
20:59 wajasu thx
21:03 wajasu well. just noticed that the libtemplate-plugin-javascript-perl is not in squeeze.  Thats for a test I am doing for bug 11211, which refactors some calendar code from C4 to Koha.
21:03 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar
21:07 gmcharlt wajasu: sure looks like it's in squeeze to me - https://packages.debian.org/se[…]n-javascript-perl
21:09 wajasu gmcharlt: ran koha_perl_deps.pl and got Template::Plugin::JavaScript                  0.01 *            0.02                    Yes, so maybe pianohacker installed on wheezy, or ?
21:11 jcamins gmcharlt: is there a way to see when a particular package was added?
21:11 jcamins Never mind.
21:11 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
21:12 gmcharlt heh
21:12 jcamins I was looking at the copyright page not the changelog.
21:12 jcamins It was added August 6, 2009.
21:13 * jcamins leaves.
21:13 gmcharlt wajasu: 0.01 is good enough for testing, judging by the change log for that module
21:13 gmcharlt or you can justisntall 0.02 from CPAN
21:13 gmcharlt I suggest that you not get too wrapped up in packaging questions just yet and just test the patch itself
21:14 wajasu ok.
21:15 wajasu i amtesting staticfines.pl  and wonder what the difference is with fines.pl   (hourly stuff?)
21:17 wajasu just confirming what other script may calc based on holidays/events.
21:22 gmcharlt wajasu: see bug 6858
21:22 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6858 normal, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, CLOSED FIXED, Adds staticfines.pl for static fines processing
21:22 * gmcharlt confesses that I don't immediately have a grasp on the fining model it implements
21:23 wajasu i have the dbix::class::schema::loader perl package installed. but get that Package::Stash error as i pasted above.  Am I stuck?
21:24 wajasu i read throughth static fine model code and understand that now.  but not fines.pl.
21:28 gmcharlt wajasu: how did you install the dependencies?
21:29 gmcharlt the safest is by installing the koha-deps package from the community APT repo
21:32 wajasu apt-get install ...     i used koha-common I believe.   I can regenerate  my debian VM  and maybe use koha-deps.
21:32 gmcharlt wajasu: what version of perl are you using?
21:33 wajasu 5.10.1 in my VM
21:33 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #361: SUCCESS in 55 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/361/
21:33 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11471: Display the currency for baskets in a basketgroup
21:33 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11789 - Use validation plugin when creating new list
21:33 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11471 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Basket groups display 0 0
21:34 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new list
21:34 gmcharlt wajasu: and perl -MPackage::Stash -e 'print $Package::Stash::VERSION, "\n"' ?
21:34 wajasu 0.36
21:37 wajasu I wrote this script that builds a VM a couple of years ago.  I have a preseed.cfg that gets most things, including koha-common.  I have a script at first boot that teaks things (xml parser and such).
21:37 gmcharlt ok, you ended up with a version of Package::Stash that's not compatible with the version of libnamespace-autoclean-perl that comes with squeeze
21:38 gmcharlt what modules, if any, had you installed from CPAN?
21:38 wajasu libtemplate-plugin-javascript-perl
21:38 wajasu needed for the test
21:39 gmcharlt hmm, that has no dependencies, and wouldn't have caused Package::Stash to be upgraded from CPAN
21:40 wajasu i built the VM about week ago.  maybe I am pointing to old koha-common or such.
21:40 pastebot "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "my preseed.cfg I use with my debian VM builder script" (549 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/137
21:40 gmcharlt it's not a mixed wheezy/squeeze system, I assume?
21:41 gmcharlt assuming you have locate installed and up to date, what does "locate Package/Stash.pm" show?
21:41 wajasu i'm still just working with squeeze.
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21:42 wajasu \/usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/Package/Stash.pm
21:42 wajasu \/usr/share/perl5/Package/Stash.pm
21:42 JWellner is talljoy around at the moment with a little time??
21:44 gmcharlt wajasu: OK, you have a CPAN-installation of Package::Stash sneaking in
21:44 wajasu usr share perl5 is 0.05  :)
21:44 gmcharlt sudo rm /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/Package/Stash.pm
21:45 wajasu so i want to get rid of 0.36?
21:46 gmcharlt yes
21:48 wajasu that fixed it !   yooo goood.
21:48 wajasu i must have done some cpan thing for a test one night last week.
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21:49 wajasu i was writing a test for DBIx::Class::Schema  using  Test::DBIx::Class::Schema,  so while pulling in deps...
21:50 gmcharlt KABOOM
21:52 bag gmcharlt: you scared barton into weekend mode with that KABOOM
21:52 wajasu while i have your attention, i wondered if you want support for TTF in syspref instead of koha-conf.xml or what,  aka bug 9854, pertaining to 9856, 9854
21:52 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9854 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Passed QA , Add 'ttf-dejavu*' packages to debian/control file, for label printing (bug 8375)
22:09 gmcharlt bag: I think I've finally discovered by superpower!
22:09 bag :D
22:10 wajasu dejavu?
22:10 gmcharlt wajasu: not opposed, though a new table woudl have a better shape
22:10 gmcharlt or I suppose a JSON/YAML blob stored in a syspref that gets it's own UI
22:12 cait gmcharlt: you hsould use your new superpower on me :)
22:12 cait so i stop doing things that make my brain hurt
22:13 gmcharlt worth a try
22:13 gmcharlt cait: THINK OF WEEKEND STUFF
22:13 gmcharlt cait: THINK NOT OF WEEK STUFF
22:13 * cait was expecting a KABOOM!
22:13 gmcharlt oh, all right ;)
22:13 gmcharlt KABOOM!
22:13 cait wah
22:13 cait bye all :)
22:13 gmcharlt g'night
22:13 wajasu if i code a new table generic enough to hold font configs, then you can hook up dropdowns to it.  plus i think we could add an image service using libgd to generate logos, patron/label, icons etc using free unicode fonts to support
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22:35 jcamins Has anyone ever seen a mail truck with a roof made of plywood or fiberboard?
22:38 Dyrcona jcamins: Not a mail truck specifically, but I have seen trucks with such roofs.
22:39 jcamins Dyrcona: well, that increases the chances that I did actually see what I thought I saw.
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22:40 Dyrcona I do believe it is usually temporary.
22:41 jcamins Makes sense. It doesn't really seem like the ideal long-term solution.
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22:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1643: SUCCESS in 2 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1643/
22:57 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11471: Display the currency for baskets in a basketgroup
22:57 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11789 - Use validation plugin when creating new list
22:57 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11471 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Basket groups display 0 0
22:57 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new list
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23:40 embiopterid Hello.  I'm really new at using this software or library software in general...how do I make koha display LC call numbers when looking up a book?
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