IRC log for #koha, 2014-02-20

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00:06 mtompset DOH! Got distracted and can't answer the problem of Kinson: his record doesn't have a 952.
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00:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1637: SUCCESS in 2 hr 27 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1637/
00:57 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10544: ensure that stocknumber searches work for MARC21
00:57 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10544: add Number-local-acquisition in known indexes
00:57 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10544 - add Number-local-acquisition in QueryParser config
00:57 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10544: (follow-up) update MARC21 DOM index definitions
00:57 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10544 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , stocknumber index is an alias of Number-local-acquisition
00:57 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 11202: Improve UNIMARC biblio indexing
00:57 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11202: FIX UT for QueryParser.t
00:57 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11202: (follow-up) update number of expected tests for t/QueryParser.t
00:57 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 11732: Eliminate warning on undefined branchcode
00:57 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11202 enhancement, P4, ---, mathsabypro, Pushed to Master , Improve UNIMARC biblio indexing
00:57 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11411 - Bootstrap theme (enhancement) for (right to left)
00:57 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11732 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Eliminate warning on undefined branchcode
00:57 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11411 normal, P5 - low, ---, karamqubsi, Pushed to Master , Bootstrap theme (enhancement) for (right to left).
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01:22 eythian @wunder nzwn
01:22 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (2:00 PM NZDT on February 20, 2014). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
01:22 eythian sure feels warmer
01:23 wizzyrea it's strange outside
01:33 rangi still fog in island bay
01:34 wizzyrea whoa really
01:34 wizzyrea it's hazy but sunny here
01:34 wizzyrea weird fog.
01:38 mtompset wizzyrea: I was looking down the language hole... what a hole it is.
01:38 wizzyrea :) we were juuuust talking about that
01:38 wizzyrea I wouldn't worry about it - what I think is
01:39 wizzyrea well what we've talked about anyway
01:39 wizzyrea is that for any regional languages, we should show the news for the master language on all regions
01:40 wizzyrea because really we're not going to be having en and en-nz and switching between them, and even for chinese and say, spanish
01:40 wizzyrea a library will probably not pick two regional languages to have enabled at once
01:40 mtompset probably not, but if they want, they can. :)
01:40 wizzyrea <big logical leap here, warning> if the other languages are similar to english, they will be more or less understandable across regions
01:41 wizzyrea right, so I think, we should just show the news for all master languages on all regional languages
01:41 wizzyrea so, for english
01:41 wizzyrea show news for "opac (en)" on en-nz, en-gb
01:42 wizzyrea so a librarian wouldn't have to make a news item for every single region, if the master language was english
01:42 wizzyrea (as an example, I think it carries over to the other regional languages as well... does anyone care to comment on that point?)
01:44 mtompset for English you are correct.
01:44 mtompset I can't comment on the mutual intelligibility of other regional languages. ;)
01:44 wizzyrea zh is the one that I am most concerned about
01:45 wizzyrea and I kinda hate to push it off on them but... this seems broken.
01:45 wizzyrea as it stands.
01:46 wizzyrea I warned you it was a big hole.
01:46 wizzyrea :)
01:46 eythian at the moment it works for nobody, no matter the direction you take, it'll be better :)
01:46 wizzyrea well it works for anybody who doesn't have an installed translation that's a regional language
01:46 wizzyrea :P
01:50 mtompset By the way... how do you UNINSTALL a language?
01:50 wizzyrea isn't there a translate remove, it's probably in the help.
01:51 wizzyrea I haven't ever looked
01:51 eythian koha-translate --remove
01:51 wizzyrea ^
01:53 mtompset on a GIT system, eythian.
01:54 eythian that information wasn't in your requirements document
01:54 mtompset True, I didn't state it initially. :P
01:57 mtompset Oh shoot...
01:57 mtompset found a bug in the koha-translate script.
01:58 mtompset it doesn't remove bootstrap.
01:58 wizzyrea ooo
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02:17 wajasu are we still using HTML::Template?  I just noticed koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/templates.readme mentions it.  did notknow if we've moved totally to TT and XSLT.
02:17 wizzyrea we are definitely not using html::template
02:18 eythian wajasu: heh I noticed that about an hour ago. It's a bit out of date that file.
02:23 wajasu i am trying to come up with a strategy to support font descriptors (CSS3 ish), and just wondered if I should just add a systempreference containing CSS and just have the label program select the preference name to drive the selection of the font familiy, etc.  then we could yank the needed fields to drive the label creator and thus choose a TTF font or other font specified.  Then we could...
02:23 wajasu ...share the CSS to show the label on the web page as well.  this is so we can get diacritics and other utf8 chars printing on the labels, patron cards, etc.
02:24 eythian it doesn't necessarily make sense to have the TTF specified as a system preference.
02:25 eythian There's few situations where library staff could meaningfully edit it.
02:29 wajasu what if we just store the CSS under   koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/lib/labels/spine-label.css   or such.
02:30 wajasu i was thinking we could use selectors for    title, barcode, etc.
02:33 wajasu i also wonder if we could refer to webfonts or download and possibly serve them.   then folks could get gentium or other unicode variations into the mix.
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02:59 mtj hi peeps, what do people think about adding a $basedir arg to rebuild_zebra.pl ?
03:00 mtj i've currently got a little problem where my /tmp file-system is only 4 gig
03:01 mtj …, and my zebra requires 18 gig to reindex
03:01 eythian does it respect $TMP?
03:02 mtj hmm, does my patch respect $TMP?
03:02 eythian rebuild_zebra
03:02 wahanui i heard rebuild_zebra was already there but only every 10 mins....
03:03 eythian not that having a --tmpdir argument or similar is a bad idea
03:03 mtj rebu_zeb.pl uses File::Temp
03:03 mtj so, i assume it does the right-thing(™)?
03:04 eythian Id think so
03:04 wajasu you could create a symbolic link to other drive as a quick workaraound.
03:04 mtj wajasu, yeah, ive done that already ^^
03:04 mtj but time for a proper fix, i think
03:05 wajasu good idea.
03:06 mtompset Oh... mtj, we had a similar problem.
03:06 mtompset we had to set $TEMP globally and reboot.
03:06 mtompset if I recall.
03:07 mtj $ rebuild_zebra.pl --basedir /tmp_zeb
03:07 mtj something like that ^^
03:08 mtompset Because I believe File::Temp caches the value, so changing it after it has been used is not possible.
03:08 mtompset Of course, I no longer have access to the old machine where we did that.
03:08 mtompset So, I can't confirm.
03:10 mtj fwiw, this patch seems to work OK -> http://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=he[…]ed2f458650c631e93
03:12 eythian mtompset: I would be very sure it wasn't caching it.
03:12 mtompset something was caching it.
03:12 mtj yeah, its not - for my example...
03:13 mtompset the $TEMP that is.
03:13 mtj switching basedirs works as expected
03:14 mtj $ ./rebuild_zebra.pl -b --basedir /tmp1
03:14 mtompset Glad you found a better solution.
03:14 mtj $ ./rebuild_zebra.pl -b --basedir /tmp2
03:14 mtj me too :p
03:15 eythian mtj: tempdir is a better name than basedir
03:15 eythian because basedir doesn't really mean anything
03:15 eythian mtompset: it doesn't use $TEMP, it uses $TMPDIR, maybe that was the issue.
03:15 mtompset Ah... that was it... TMPDIR.
03:16 eythian $tmpdir = $_[0]->_tmpdir( $ENV{TMPDIR}, "/tmp" );
03:16 eythian that's how it figures out where to use unless you tell it otherwise.
03:16 eythian There's no caching going on.
03:16 mtj eythian, tempdir is already used
03:16 mtompset the $ENV{TMPDIR} was, I think.
03:17 eythian it's not. That's not how environment variables work.
03:17 eythian They are not cached, they are passed down from process to process.
03:17 eythian mtj: it is?
03:17 eythian for what?
03:17 mtj $ ./rebuild_zebra.pl -b --basedir /tmp2 -d foo
03:17 mtj tempdir is foo
03:18 mtj so the actual dir thats used is /tmp2/foo
03:18 eythian that's not really a sane naming scheme, as basedir is still meaningless.
03:18 mtj or, if you dont pass it a -d/tempdir  arg...
03:18 eythian -d lets you provide a directory instead of it making one
03:19 eythian you should have --tempdir or something that says "use this instead of $TMPDIR, /tmp"
03:19 eythian I'd think basedir would be where the indices live, or something like that.
03:19 eythian Not something that's incidental to the functioning.
03:21 eythian (-d isn't nicely named either, but it's probably too late to change it.)
03:21 mtj exactly
03:21 mtj -d aka $directory should really be called tempdir - coz thats wot it is
03:22 eythian well, possibly. I'd consider tempdir to be the thing that says "here's a tempdir to use".
03:22 mtj yep
03:22 eythian because that's what $TMPDIR does.
03:22 eythian so it should replicate what that envvar does.
03:23 mtj and thats *not* what my arg does  - it provide a *base* dir,  for the temp dir
03:24 eythian It's _exactly_ what your one does.
03:24 eythian $TMPDIR="/tmp", it writes in in /tmp/something. If your one is "/tmp" it writes it in /tmp/something
03:24 mtj ok
03:25 mtj so -d should be renamed to tmpsubdir
03:25 mtj then we are all happy
03:26 mtj heh, i shoudlnt be suggesting extra work for myself
03:26 eythian I don't know what a good name for that would be.
03:26 eythian I'd be wary of renaming something that people are possibly already using, too.
03:26 mtj i'll just follow your recommendation and rename --basedir to --tempdir
03:27 eythian Mostly my issue is that basedir makes it sound more important than it really is, without conveying what it really does.
03:27 mtj a prefectly valid point
03:27 eythian Now, if it were a utility to create temporary directories, basedir would be fine, but it's not :)
03:28 mtompset oh my evilness... I think I finally made sense of language_subtag_registry in my head.
03:29 eythian I don't think I've even contemplated looking at that.
03:30 mtompset and the po files are language[-region[-script]].po
04:03 mtompset For those who may be mildly interested: http://rising.globalvoicesonli[…]e-on-february-21/
04:12 mtompset what are valid MARC tags in 1xx?
04:13 eythian 100, 110, 111, 130.
04:13 eythian http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd1xx.html
04:15 mtompset oh wait... authorities... http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ad1xx3xx.html
04:16 mtompset Shoot... found a bug.
04:16 mtompset We're missing 162.
04:18 mtompset I know how to fix it, but the fix won't be accepted without a test. ARG!
04:23 mtompset What to call the bug... I don't even know how to reproduce it, but I know it exists.
04:26 mtompset Does the record->field('1..') call guarantee a particular order for fields?
04:29 eythian I would expect that they're in the same order they are in the record.
04:29 eythian Not sure I'd assume that there's a guarantee though
04:30 mtj you can force an order, i think...
04:31 mtj otherwise, its just the order that its stored in the record
04:31 jcamins You can only have one 1xx field, so you should just assume the record is invalid if that's returning an array with more than one item.
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04:33 mtompset I think eythian was addressing my question: can you have 100,111,130 in one record->file('1..') call, but in another case it is 130,111,100.
04:33 mayankjain Hello what is the marc21 code for bar code ?
04:33 mtompset I want to say 952$p, but I don't know for sure.
04:33 eythian http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]data_fields_(9xx) <-- mayankjain, all the item fields are documented in here
04:33 eythian and it is 952$p
04:34 mtompset GAH! Some librarian stuff is sticking in my head.... get it out! get it out! ;)
04:34 mtj peeps, can i get a bash brainslap… i've discovered a subtle bug in koha-rebuild-zebra
04:35 mtj # koha-rebuild-zebra -d foo1 mykoha
04:36 mtj the script  parses 'foo1' as a koha instance, not a value of the -d arg :/
04:36 eythian hmm, I could believe that.
04:36 eythian it should probably be written using getopts.
04:37 eythian but as it is, it doesn't understand that -d takes an argument, because it doesn't know what it actually is.
04:38 eythian jcamins: I like your faith that records will be valid :)
04:41 jcamins eythian: I have no faith that the record would be valid, but worrying about Koha's behavior when the record isn't going to display right regardless of the behavior seems like a waste of time.
04:45 mtj thanks for the get-opts tip eythian :)
04:46 eythian it'd probably mean changing the interface a bit, e.g. having all the passed-on options coming after a '--' or something.
04:46 mtj i have seen it about, but i've managed to avoid using it… so far :)
04:46 eythian It should be able to work in a shell script, but I don't know how you'd do it.
04:47 eythian 'man getopt' will tell you all about it.
04:47 mtj some of those koha-* bash scripts are ripe for a perl rewrite
04:48 eythian possibly, they're mostly pretty small though, and you can do some good stuff in shell scripts.
04:48 mtj but i might be a bit biased… :)
04:48 eythian though after a while it starts to get ugly.
04:48 eythian I used to use a distro that had all of its packaging and dependency management in pure bash script
04:52 mtompset mtj: you may wish to talk with tcohen. He was working on them last. :)
04:59 mayankjain what is the marc21 for number of pages of a book ?
05:00 dcook http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd300.html
05:00 eythian @marc 300
05:00 huginn` eythian: A physical description of the described item, including its extent, dimensions, and such other physical details as a description of any accompanying materials and unit type and size. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,3,6,8]
05:00 eythian I think that's where it goes
05:01 dcook 300$a to be exact
05:01 dcook Although look at the loc site (or your cataloguing rules) to see how it's supposed to be written out...
05:02 mayankjain 300$a takes the records to Description:
05:03 dcook ?
05:03 dcook $a - Extent
05:03 dcook Number of physical pages, volumes, cassettes, total playing time, etc., of of each type of unit.
05:03 * dcook tries to hunt down this apostrophe code error..
05:10 mayankjain what is the marc21 for date of purchase ?
05:11 eythian it's in the 952 holdings link taht I sent earlier: date of acquisition.
05:12 dcook (Although you could in theory use 541 instead :P)
05:13 dcook (but that's at the bib level not item level)
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05:22 mayankjain The barcode 22491 was not found.             Return to spine label printer
05:23 mayankjain I have used 541$e for bar code
05:24 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), eythian, dcook, mtj, everybody on #koha. :)
05:24 eythian mayankjain: you should be using 952$p
05:24 cait mayankjain: koh aexpects the barcode to be in the item
05:25 eythian hi cait
05:25 cait so what eythian said - 952$p
05:25 cait hi eythian :)
05:25 mayankjain yeah I have used 952$p
05:26 mayankjain now I am trying to print bar code with spine label
05:27 eythian sweet, after-hours apache updates applied to all the servers I have to manage. Time to go.
05:27 eythian Ohh, time to go after this song finishes.
05:28 cait have a good evening :)
05:28 dcook night, eythian (after the song finishes)
05:28 eythian later all :)
05:28 mayankjain For creating bar code do I need to do anything after importing data?
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07:40 marcelr hi #koha
07:41 marcelr rangi++
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07:45 alex_a bonjour
07:46 mayankjain please tell me tag code for bill number
07:49 matts hi !
07:50 mayankjain hi
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08:11 reiveune hello
08:11 wahanui niihau, reiveune
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08:23 Joubu o/
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08:38 paul_p bag = you arrive in Paris on saturday, but when do you arrive in Marseille ?
08:39 paul_p Sophie will probably organise a trip on sunday, for magnus & kivilahtio. Could you be interested to join ?
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08:55 huginn` GERMS!!!!
08:55 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
08:55 cait rangi's laptop is broken - he says he won't be able to do sign offs for a while
08:57 cait I hope some people can jump in and do some more - the list is long :(
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09:14 marcelr hi cait
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09:22 cait hi marcelr
09:22 marcelr :)
09:23 cait hm and as we are talking about it... my laptop is not broken and I hope to be able to do some QA soon, but also have to work on my distance study right now :(
09:24 marcelr cait++
09:25 marcelr we should have a qaday between friday and saturday
09:25 cait hm we could have one
09:25 cait this week would be abit short notice maybe
09:26 cait but i won't be around next week friday/saturday - travelling for the distance study
09:26 marcelr one day more per week
09:26 ashimema Indeed.. an extra day would be hugely useful..
09:26 ashimema there just isn't enough time in a week
09:26 marcelr hi ashimema
09:27 ashimema Hi marcelr
09:27 ashimema nice work on qa'ing the zebra locking bug.. was a long slog but it's looking great now.
09:27 marcelr did you test it?
09:27 ashimema It's about time I got my QA hat back on and rattled off a few.
09:27 marcelr somehow your signoff got lost but it made a comment
09:28 marcelr it->t
09:28 marcelr I
09:28 ashimema I've not tested again since your followup.. (But reading the code it looks though it shuld work ;) ).. Hopeing to test it some time today
09:28 marcelr no problem; i just asked doug to confirm for a last .. time
09:28 ashimema I'm not too worried about recognition tbh, just like seeing good code go in ;)
09:30 marcelr ashimema++ #for qa work to come :)
09:36 cait marcelr++
09:36 cait very glad you took that one
09:37 marcelr np
09:37 cait would one of you be able to test sip2?
09:37 cait we got 11351 and 6273 in the queue right now
09:38 cait although i think bug 6273 might be afail for an untranslatable string
09:38 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6273 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Signed Off , SIP2 Fee Paid and Fee Paid Response support
09:38 marcelr have to complete some others first
09:38 marcelr bug 11351
09:38 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11351 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add support for SIP2 media types
09:38 cait marcelr: i am a bit worreid about the transports, i think there are some bugs related not in the queue yet
09:38 marcelr how do you mean bugs?
09:39 cait bug 11209
09:39 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11209 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Multi transport types: same messages are sent for a patron
09:39 cait bug 10832
09:39 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10832 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Multi transport types for overdue notices
09:39 marcelr the package is not complete, you mean?
09:39 cait maybe we should ask Joubu - but i think those might be 2 missing pieces
09:40 marcelr ok just to prevent misunderstanding
09:40 cait ping Joubu
09:42 marcelr but we can qa them separately; probably Galen will sit on them in PQA
09:42 cait yeah, just it might come up in testing, so better to know there is more
09:42 cait it's a rather huge dependency tree
09:43 cait not sure i completely understand how it all works together
09:43 marcelr which will make it very hard to get it in
09:43 cait i saved it for a free weekend day - but that hasn't happened so far, so glad when someone can get to it
09:43 marcelr Joubu is still up for a lot of rebasing..
09:43 cait marcelr: but on the other hand completely changing it all in one go is a testing nightmare
09:43 marcelr true
09:43 marcelr impossible
09:43 cait and messaging is a end user thing... so a sensitive spt
09:44 marcelr but the idea is great
09:44 cait i haven't seen all yet, but i like the added flexibility
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09:45 marcelr hey KOHA
09:45 marcelr this is a senstive nickname ;)
09:46 marcelr bye KOHA :)
09:46 marcelr welcome KOha
09:46 marcelr welcome Koha sorry
09:46 marcelr my keyboard does not do what i want him to
09:47 cait i know the feeling :)
09:47 cait marcelr: i plan to try and talk to dpavlin about the diacritics on labels things
09:47 cait at the hackfest
09:48 cait i hope that works out :)
09:48 marcelr great
09:48 cait i have started a list
09:48 marcelr i will miss the hackfest; hope to join next time
09:48 cait it woud be nice to see you again
09:48 marcelr :)
09:48 cait maybe you can be online a bit? there will be lots of bugzilla action :)
09:49 marcelr i will see some probably
09:49 marcelr afk
09:55 Joubu pong marcelr and cait! Sorry for the lag
09:55 Joubu Yes it seems 2 patches are not SO yet
09:56 Joubu but they are bugfixes, so the complete feature can be tested
09:58 Joubu and 10832 is signed off actually
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10:15 ashimema did koha version get removed from the html meta headers at some point recently?
10:19 ashimema ah.. that's interesting.. if opacPrivate is enabled, you have to be logged in to get koha versions..
10:20 ashimema :(
10:45 mayankjain I have imported records in Koha using Stage MARC records for import  now when I click on book title it showing duplicate data
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10:56 mayankjain have imported records in Koha using Stage MARC records for import  now when I click on book title it showing duplicate data
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12:10 paxed assuming i've set ZEBRA_LANGUAGE="fi" in /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf and the /etc/koha/sites/*/zebra-*.cfg point to /etc/koha/zebradb/lang_defs/fi, where i've got proper sort-string-utf.chr ... what else do i need to change?
12:10 paxed because searching for "rölli" return also "rolling stone" which is definitely not what we need. "ö" and "o" are two different letters.
12:12 paxed this is the sort-string-utf.chr: http://pastebin.com/QBmikeJk
12:17 cait paxed: i think you want to look at the mappings
12:17 cait are you using icuß
12:17 cait search and sort are different
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12:19 paxed "the mappings"?
12:19 cait the way you index special characters
12:20 cait if you are using icu the standard conifugration is that all letters with diacritics can also be searched with the base later, which is what you see there
12:20 cait base letter...
12:21 cait and without icu there are also mapping that will make that happen, it's just a bit different in how it's configured
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12:23 cait bug 2429 has some information
12:23 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2429 blocker, P3, ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED FIXED, Syntax error enabling /etc/apache2/sites-available/koha
12:23 cait umnot that
12:24 cait bug 2629
12:24 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2629 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, ago, In Discussion , Diacritics not being ignored when searching
12:27 paxed how do i find if zebra is using ICU or now, if it was installed from the debian packages?
12:27 paxed s/now/not/
12:27 cait hm it's probably not using ICU then
12:28 cait but t might be worth investigating when looking at search
12:28 cait i think it should be somehow visible from the koha-conf file
12:30 paxed rgrep -i icu /etc/koha/ does not return any hits in koha-conf.xml
12:30 cait magnuse: around?
12:31 cait probably not turned on i think, then the file would be:
12:31 cait etc/zebradb/etc/word-phrase-utf.chr
12:31 cait for chr indexing
12:32 paxed ok. so zebra provices different lang_defs for sorting, but not for searching.
12:32 paxed provides*
12:33 cait afaik
12:34 paxed lovely
12:36 paxed how do i provide settings for zebra during install for some $language that needs to be different from english?
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13:01 cait paxed: ?
13:01 cait zebra doesn't know which language your records are in
13:01 cait you have one general setting for all your database
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13:02 cait paxed: maybe i am misunderstanding
13:02 cait hi paul_p
13:02 paul_p hi cait & others
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13:03 cait paul_p: no new registrations today? :)
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13:04 paul_p cait no. Only one person coming 3 days instead of 2 ;-)
13:05 cait :)
13:18 paxed cait: there's several sort-string-utf.chr (for different languages), but only one word-phrase-utf.chr ...
13:19 cait paxed: yes, that's true
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13:19 cait i think sorting is known to be very different, but searching supposed to be less strict
13:19 cait you could change it, either have your own word-phrase-utf or your own icuchain definitions
13:20 paxed not going to bother with that.
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13:22 oleonard Hi #koha
13:22 cait hi oleonard :)
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14:44 oleonard @wunder 45701
14:44 huginn` oleonard: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is 6.0°C (9:35 AM EST on February 20, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
14:48 rhcl @wunder 64507
14:48 huginn` rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 4.4°C (8:48 AM CST on February 20, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Falling). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 3 PM CST this afternoon...
14:53 cait oleonard++ :)
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15:09 paul_p 'morning america (north & south=
15:09 paul_p )
15:11 rhcl hi paul_p
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15:18 tcohen morning paul_p
15:18 paul_p hi tcohen & rhcl
15:20 * dbs waves
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16:01 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11479: Remove experimental given/when keywords <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]538a8e3bbd2ae41c5> / Bug 11478: Replace experimental given/when keywords <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6f6735c8317636068>
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16:08 jenkins_koha Starting build #353 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:15 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Confusing logic, or is it just me?" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/131
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16:17 oleonard ^^ If the above is not confusing to you then you should be able to tell me why it doesn't work.
16:23 pastebot Someone at 127.0.0.1 pasted "? : translated" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/132
16:24 gmcharlt oleonard: it boils down to this ^^
16:24 gmcharlt not that that's syntatically correct Perl of course, but does it help give you the idea?
16:24 oleonard Yes, thanks
16:26 * cait waves and leaves :)
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16:32 oleonard I guess it is working correctly, it just makes assumptions that I wouldn't have made.
16:33 oleonard For instance: show the subscriptions tab even if your opacSerialDefaultTab is set to "holdings" but you don't have any holdings
16:39 gmcharlt yeah, I can see that being counterintuitve
16:40 gmcharlt question for you -- in Bootstrap, the OPAC language picker /always/ needs to be scrolled down to regardless of how tall your browser window is
16:40 gmcharlt what's causing that?
16:49 oleonard good question gmcharlt
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17:03 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10714 [Follow-up] Redirect to list contents view upon cancel after initiating... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]99237ad2c0efc15e9> / Bug 10714: Redirect to list contents view upon save after initiating edit from list... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b4988d2414519ea4b>
17:04 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #353: SUCCESS in 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/353/
17:04 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 11478: Replace experimental given/when keywords
17:04 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 11479: Remove experimental given/when keywords
17:04 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11478 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Remove experimental given/when from Koha::SimpleMARC
17:04 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11479 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Remove experimental given/when from C4::MarcModificationTemplates
17:10 jenkins_koha Starting build #354 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:13 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11791 - Use validation plugin when creating new city <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]453a1a1341387dc6a> / Bug 11792 - Use validation plugin when creating new currency <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2ac40f219f6167d0a> / Bug 11793 - Use validation plugin when creating new item type <http://git.koha-community.o
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17:27 smrt hi does anyone know why in the OPAC the select library pulldown doesn't go back to its orginal position after resizing the window?
17:27 smrt im using the bootstrap theme
17:33 reiveune bye
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17:34 oleonard smrt: Because I didn't think that was something that happened often enough to require special handling
17:36 smrt oleonard : ok then, i figured it'd be something like that. thanks.
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18:04 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #354: SUCCESS in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/354/
18:04 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10714: Redirect to list contents view upon save after initiating edit from list contents view (staff)
18:04 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10714 [Follow-up] Redirect to list contents view upon cancel after initiating edit from list contents view (staff)
18:04 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11785 - Use validation plugin when uploading local cover images
18:04 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11787 - Use validation plugin when adding new vendor
18:04 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11788 - Use validation plugin when creating new course
18:04 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11795 - Use validation plugin when creating new Z39.50 server
18:04 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11793 - Use validation plugin when creating new item type
18:04 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10714 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Redirect to list contents view upon save after initiating edit from list contents view
18:04 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11792 - Use validation plugin when creating new currency
18:04 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11791 - Use validation plugin when creating new city
18:04 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11785 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when uploading local cover images
18:04 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11787 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when adding new vendor
18:04 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11788 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new course
18:04 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11795 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new Z39.50 server
18:04 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11793 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new item type
18:04 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11792 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new currency
18:04 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11791 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new city
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18:28 francharb hello #koha
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18:30 pianohacker hi
18:31 cait hi all
18:34 pianohacker hi cait
18:39 cait h pianohacker :)
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18:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1638: SUCCESS in 2 hr 19 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1638/
18:44 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 11478: Replace experimental given/when keywords
18:44 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 11479: Remove experimental given/when keywords
18:44 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11478 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Remove experimental given/when from Koha::SimpleMARC
18:44 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11479 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Remove experimental given/when from C4::MarcModificationTemplates
18:49 jenkins_koha Starting build #1639 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:06 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11796: fix display of search result facets if facet happens to have exactly six... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d60a13c22c93294b2>
19:08 jenkins_koha Starting build #355 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:16 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11611: DBRev 3.15.00.017 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3d6f90091d0bd4789> / Bug 11611: Rephrase description and examples of 5 MARC related sysprefs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1ba16f11ba45267fc>
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19:36 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11272 - add second submit button to inventory form <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a3248fd877dc8edce> / Bug 11087: Make the Pay Fines tab the default tab <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0cc31a79d4797c579>
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20:06 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #355: SUCCESS in 58 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/355/
20:06 jenkins_koha Kyle M Hall: Bug 11796: fix display of search result facets if facet happens to have exactly six entries
20:06 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11796 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Results with 6 facets have missing facet
20:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #356 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
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20:49 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1639: SUCCESS in 2 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1639/
20:49 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10714: Redirect to list contents view upon save after initiating edit from list contents view (staff)
20:49 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10714 [Follow-up] Redirect to list contents view upon cancel after initiating edit from list contents view (staff)
20:49 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11785 - Use validation plugin when uploading local cover images
20:49 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11787 - Use validation plugin when adding new vendor
20:49 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10714 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Redirect to list contents view upon save after initiating edit from list contents view
20:49 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11788 - Use validation plugin when creating new course
20:49 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11795 - Use validation plugin when creating new Z39.50 server
20:49 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11793 - Use validation plugin when creating new item type
20:49 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11792 - Use validation plugin when creating new currency
20:49 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11791 - Use validation plugin when creating new city
20:49 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11785 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when uploading local cover images
20:49 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11787 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when adding new vendor
20:49 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11788 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new course
20:49 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11795 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new Z39.50 server
20:49 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11793 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new item type
20:49 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11792 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new currency
20:49 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11791 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new city
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21:00 * wizzyrea ignores jenkins for now
21:00 wizzyrea also hi.
21:04 oleonard If it weren't for jenkins_koha this place would be silent
21:04 cait oh?
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21:06 rhcl I like that jenkins writes in pretty red font
21:08 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #356: UNSTABLE in 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/356/
21:08 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 11611: Rephrase description and examples of 5 MARC related sysprefs
21:08 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11611: DBRev 3.15.00.017
21:08 jenkins_koha * Ketan Kulkarni: Bug 11087: Make the Pay Fines tab the default tab
21:08 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 11272 - add second submit button to inventory form
21:08 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11611 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Pushed to Master , fix possible confusion between UNIMARC and MARC21 in some sysprefs
21:08 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11087 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ketan, Pushed to Master , Have the fines tab default to pay fines rather than account
21:08 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11272 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , copy submit button on inventory
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21:16 wizzyrea it's been quiet lately eh
21:16 wizzyrea what is up with that?
21:16 wizzyrea well I have a question
21:16 cait night :)
21:16 * oleonard will have to take his questions off the air
21:17 wizzyrea when an item is marked longoverdue, does it remove the previously accrued fines?
21:17 wizzyrea and is that behaviour changeable
21:17 wizzyrea (if it is)
21:17 wizzyrea gnite cait
21:18 cait look at all th elost prefs
21:18 cait i think there is something
21:18 wizzyrea it seems like there should be - I forget where they are
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21:19 wizzyrea oh this is 3.10
21:19 wizzyrea that pref may not be in this version...
21:19 wizzyrea thanks cait
21:19 wizzyrea I can work from that
21:20 wizzyrea yay ok i've not lost my mind. :()
21:20 wizzyrea :) WhenLostForgiveFine
21:20 wizzyrea and it's not in 3.10
22:02 wajasu please suggest some bug to work on signing off.  i have some time today.  and the ones i keep selecting have things keeping them on hold.
22:04 pianohacker wajasu: If you're a bit ambitious, there's bug 11211
22:04 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar
22:12 wajasu will give it a try.
22:25 pastebot "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "bug11211 patch attempt" (46 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/135
22:26 pianohacker wajasu: that probably got hit in oleonard's latest updates, lemme rebase it
22:26 wajasu ok
22:37 pianohacker wajasu: done
22:42 mtj hey wizzyrea, you about for a quicky…?
22:42 wajasu ok will try.
22:44 * mtj waves to wajasu & pianohacker  :)
22:44 pianohacker hi mtj
22:44 wajasu hey mtj
22:45 mtj guys… long time, no chat :p
22:46 mtj hey #koha, are many people here running their prod Kohas with memcache on?
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22:48 * mtj was gonna ask wiz, but its a general question :)
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22:51 wajasu pianohacker: are you going to have to add a patch to debian/control  for libtemplate-plugin-javascript-perl  so the packages are ok?  i just used apt-get.
22:52 pianohacker That's an excellent point, hadn't thought of that. Will do that in a followup
22:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1640: SUCCESS in 2 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1640/
22:52 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11796: fix display of search result facets if facet happens to have exactly six entries
22:52 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 11611: Rephrase description and examples of 5 MARC related sysprefs
22:52 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11611: DBRev 3.15.00.017
22:52 jenkins_koha * Ketan Kulkarni: Bug 11087: Make the Pay Fines tab the default tab
22:52 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 11272 - add second submit button to inventory form
22:52 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11796 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Results with 6 facets have missing facet
22:52 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11611 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Pushed to Master , fix possible confusion between UNIMARC and MARC21 in some sysprefs
22:52 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11087 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ketan, Pushed to Master , Have the fines tab default to pay fines rather than account
22:52 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11272 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , copy submit button on inventory
22:54 pianohacker mtj: asking one of our sysadmins
22:57 mtj woo, thanks :)
22:57 bag heya mtj
22:57 pianohacker mtj: He says we've only got it installed on a couple due to historical reasons and no massive production speed improvements
22:58 pianohacker with that, I've gotta vamoose, bye all
23:00 mtj hey brendan
23:00 mtj thanks for the info jesse
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23:36 eythian hi
23:39 eythian wahanui: emergency is <reply>0118 999 88199 9119725 ... 3
23:39 wahanui OK, eythian.
23:41 dcook rangi++
23:41 dcook Killin' those signoffs

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