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23:40 embiopterid Hello. I'm really new at using this software or library software in general...how do I make koha display LC call numbers when looking up a book?
22:57 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new list
22:57 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11471 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Basket groups display 0 0
22:57 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11789 - Use validation plugin when creating new list
22:57 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11471: Display the currency for baskets in a basketgroup
22:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1643: SUCCESS in 2 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1643/
22:41 jcamins Makes sense. It doesn't really seem like the ideal long-term solution.
22:40 Dyrcona I do believe it is usually temporary.
22:39 jcamins Dyrcona: well, that increases the chances that I did actually see what I thought I saw.
22:38 Dyrcona jcamins: Not a mail truck specifically, but I have seen trucks with such roofs.
22:35 jcamins Has anyone ever seen a mail truck with a roof made of plywood or fiberboard?
22:13 wajasu if i code a new table generic enough to hold font configs, then you can hook up dropdowns to it. plus i think we could add an image service using libgd to generate logos, patron/label, icons etc using free unicode fonts to support
22:13 gmcharlt g'night
22:13 cait bye all :)
22:13 cait wah
22:13 gmcharlt KABOOM!
22:13 gmcharlt oh, all right ;)
22:13 * cait was expecting a KABOOM!
22:13 gmcharlt cait: THINK NOT OF WEEK STUFF
22:13 gmcharlt cait: THINK OF WEEKEND STUFF
22:13 gmcharlt worth a try
22:12 cait so i stop doing things that make my brain hurt
22:12 cait gmcharlt: you hsould use your new superpower on me :)
22:10 gmcharlt or I suppose a JSON/YAML blob stored in a syspref that gets it's own UI
22:10 gmcharlt wajasu: not opposed, though a new table woudl have a better shape
22:10 wajasu dejavu?
22:09 bag :D
22:09 gmcharlt bag: I think I've finally discovered by superpower!
21:52 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9854 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Passed QA , Add 'ttf-dejavu*' packages to debian/control file, for label printing (bug 8375)
21:52 wajasu while i have your attention, i wondered if you want support for TTF in syspref instead of koha-conf.xml or what, aka bug 9854, pertaining to 9856, 9854
21:52 bag gmcharlt: you scared barton into weekend mode with that KABOOM
21:50 gmcharlt KABOOM
21:49 wajasu i was writing a test for DBIx::Class::Schema using Test::DBIx::Class::Schema, so while pulling in deps...
21:48 wajasu i must have done some cpan thing for a test one night last week.
21:48 wajasu that fixed it ! yooo goood.
21:46 gmcharlt yes
21:45 wajasu so i want to get rid of 0.36?
21:44 gmcharlt sudo rm /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/Package/Stash.pm
21:44 wajasu usr share perl5 is 0.05 :)
21:44 gmcharlt wajasu: OK, you have a CPAN-installation of Package::Stash sneaking in
21:42 JWellner is talljoy around at the moment with a little time??
21:42 wajasu \/usr/share/perl5/Package/Stash.pm
21:42 wajasu \/usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/Package/Stash.pm
21:41 wajasu i'm still just working with squeeze.
21:41 gmcharlt assuming you have locate installed and up to date, what does "locate Package/Stash.pm" show?
21:40 gmcharlt it's not a mixed wheezy/squeeze system, I assume?
21:40 pastebot "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "my preseed.cfg I use with my debian VM builder script" (549 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/137
21:40 wajasu i built the VM about week ago. maybe I am pointing to old koha-common or such.
21:39 gmcharlt hmm, that has no dependencies, and wouldn't have caused Package::Stash to be upgraded from CPAN
21:38 wajasu needed for the test
21:38 wajasu libtemplate-plugin-javascript-perl
21:38 gmcharlt what modules, if any, had you installed from CPAN?
21:37 gmcharlt ok, you ended up with a version of Package::Stash that's not compatible with the version of libnamespace-autoclean-perl that comes with squeeze
21:37 wajasu I wrote this script that builds a VM a couple of years ago. I have a preseed.cfg that gets most things, including koha-common. I have a script at first boot that teaks things (xml parser and such).
21:34 wajasu 0.36
21:34 gmcharlt wajasu: and perl -MPackage::Stash -e 'print $Package::Stash::VERSION, "\n"' ?
21:34 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new list
21:33 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11471 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Basket groups display 0 0
21:33 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11789 - Use validation plugin when creating new list
21:33 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11471: Display the currency for baskets in a basketgroup
21:33 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #361: SUCCESS in 55 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/361/
21:33 wajasu 5.10.1 in my VM
21:32 gmcharlt wajasu: what version of perl are you using?
21:32 wajasu apt-get install ... i used koha-common I believe. I can regenerate my debian VM and maybe use koha-deps.
21:29 gmcharlt the safest is by installing the koha-deps package from the community APT repo
21:28 gmcharlt wajasu: how did you install the dependencies?
21:24 wajasu i read throughth static fine model code and understand that now. but not fines.pl.
21:23 wajasu i have the dbix::class::schema::loader perl package installed. but get that Package::Stash error as i pasted above. Am I stuck?
21:22 * gmcharlt confesses that I don't immediately have a grasp on the fining model it implements
21:22 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6858 normal, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, CLOSED FIXED, Adds staticfines.pl for static fines processing
21:22 gmcharlt wajasu: see bug 6858
21:17 wajasu just confirming what other script may calc based on holidays/events.
21:15 wajasu i amtesting staticfines.pl and wonder what the difference is with fines.pl (hourly stuff?)
21:14 wajasu ok.
21:13 gmcharlt I suggest that you not get too wrapped up in packaging questions just yet and just test the patch itself
21:13 gmcharlt or you can justisntall 0.02 from CPAN
21:13 gmcharlt wajasu: 0.01 is good enough for testing, judging by the change log for that module
21:13 * jcamins leaves.
21:12 jcamins It was added August 6, 2009.
21:12 jcamins I was looking at the copyright page not the changelog.
21:12 gmcharlt heh
21:11 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
21:11 jcamins Never mind.
21:11 jcamins gmcharlt: is there a way to see when a particular package was added?
21:09 wajasu gmcharlt: ran koha_perl_deps.pl and got Template::Plugin::JavaScript 0.01 * 0.02 Yes, so maybe pianohacker installed on wheezy, or ?
21:07 gmcharlt wajasu: sure looks like it's in squeeze to me - https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libtemplate-plugin-javascript-perl
21:03 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar
21:03 wajasu well. just noticed that the libtemplate-plugin-javascript-perl is not in squeeze. Thats for a test I am doing for bug 11211, which refactors some calendar code from C4 to Koha.
20:59 wajasu thx
20:59 wajasu ahh
20:59 gmcharlt https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libdbix-class-schema-loader-perl
20:59 gmcharlt remember that packaged perl modules have their names end in -perl
20:59 wajasu got a better whay to search.
20:59 wajasu i couldn't find anything for squeeze. https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=stable§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=libdbix-class-schema-loader
20:58 gmcharlt er, libdbix-class-schema-loader-perl is available in squeeze
20:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #1643 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:57 gmcharlt but the general answer is that squeeze is going away in a few short months regardless
20:57 gmcharlt one second while I look at the specifics
20:56 wajasu gmcharlt: is the DBIx:Class::Schema:Loader required and if so does that mean we are targetting wheezy for the upcoming debian only? (see last 2 irc lines)
20:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11256 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Set a number of items to display on a biblio detail page
20:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9677 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Style button on notices and slips page with Bootstrap
20:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11799 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Housekeeping: Remove _biblionumber_sth from VirtualShelves.pm
20:54 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11256: (follow-up) tweak description of the OpacMaxItemsToDisplay syspref
20:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10580 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Remove NoZebra reference from Makefile.pl
20:54 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11256: DBRev 3.15.00.019
20:54 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11256: Opac: Set a number of items to display on a biblio detail page - bootstrap
20:54 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11562 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , QA: the sysprefs.sql is not correctly sorted
20:54 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11256: Opac: Set a number of items to display on a biblio detail page.
20:54 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9677 - Style button on notices and slips page with Bootstrap
20:54 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 11799: Housekeeping: Remove _biblionumber_sth from VirtualShelves.pm
20:54 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10580: (follow-up) tweak wording about looking for zebrasrv & zebraidx
20:54 pastebot "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "error while navigating patron package::stash" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/136
20:54 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10580: adjust Makefile.PL to reflect that Zebra no longer optional in Koha setup
20:54 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11562: re-sort sysprefs.sql
20:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1642: SUCCESS in 2 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1642/
20:53 wajasu is that libdbix-class-timestamp-perl only available on wheezy? i was going to install it on squeeze to test master as I got an error when testing.
20:42 gmcharlt caught him in time! ;)
20:42 gmcharlt whew!
20:42 * oleonard runs away
20:42 oleonard Not at all
20:42 gmcharlt I'm about to put up a follow-up to that bug; mind if I leave it to you to style it?
20:41 oleonard so I think we're looking at adding some custom style
20:41 oleonard Out of the box Bootstrap has <span class="help-inline"> or <span class="help-block"> for text accompanying inputs, but those are basically unstyled
20:39 jcamins Oh, no idea.
20:39 gmcharlt yeah, I'm thinking inline
20:39 oleonard Not for a message which is inline with the form if I understand gmcharlt correctly
20:38 jcamins .alert
20:38 jenkins_koha Starting build #361 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:38 gmcharlt next to the category drop-down
20:38 gmcharlt something to the effect of "The library has turned off the ability to create new public lists. Please note that if you change your list to private, you will not be able to make it public again."
20:37 gmcharlt apropos of 10865, in the OPAC list edit form
20:37 oleonard I'm not sure what you mean... what kind of message?
20:37 gmcharlt *class
20:37 gmcharlt oleonard: lazyweb time - what's the appropriate CSS close to use for a warning message to accompany a form input in Bootstrap?
20:32 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11256 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Set a number of items to display on a biblio detail page
20:32 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11256: (follow-up) tweak description of the OpacMaxItemsToDisplay syspref
20:32 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11256: DBRev 3.15.00.019
20:32 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11256: Opac: Set a number of items to display on a biblio detail page - bootstrap
20:32 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11256: Opac: Set a number of items to display on a biblio detail page.
20:32 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #360: SUCCESS in 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/360/
20:24 cait gmcharlt++
20:19 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11789 - Use validation plugin when creating new list <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4677bb52616794457f616571479aab6425be75f9>
19:49 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11471: Display the currency for baskets in a basketgroup <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7a2dec05eddc979b5a957a651e393838c13560c4>
19:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #360 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:30 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9677 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Style button on notices and slips page with Bootstrap
19:30 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11799 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Housekeeping: Remove _biblionumber_sth from VirtualShelves.pm
19:30 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10580 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Remove NoZebra reference from Makefile.pl
19:30 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9677 - Style button on notices and slips page with Bootstrap
19:30 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 11799: Housekeeping: Remove _biblionumber_sth from VirtualShelves.pm
19:30 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10580: (follow-up) tweak wording about looking for zebrasrv & zebraidx
19:30 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10580: adjust Makefile.PL to reflect that Zebra no longer optional in Koha setup
19:30 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #359: SUCCESS in 57 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/359/
19:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11817 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Staff client next/previous browse JavaScript interferes with other JS functions
19:23 oleonard Bug 11817
19:11 jcamins Ah, yeah.
19:11 oleonard that's picking up the delete link
19:11 oleonard $('a[href*="biblionumber="]').click(function (ev) {
19:11 oleonard jcamins: I think I've got it. In browser.js:
19:07 oleonard thanks
19:06 jcamins I'll have to think about it, because I've never seen anything like that.
19:04 jcamins Hm.
19:04 jcamins Oh.
19:04 oleonard That's what I thought too, but changing it didn't work.
19:04 jcamins oleonard: we're using return false and we should be using ev.preventDefault();
19:02 jcamins Hmm.
19:02 oleonard ...hence me bugging you.
19:01 oleonard The problem only happens when the 'browse results' widget is active.
19:01 oleonard If I navigate directly to that detail page the delete action is correctly blocked.
19:01 oleonard An alert appears warning me that I can't delete, but the page redirects to the delete page anyway
19:00 oleonard In the staff client, do a search, click to view the details for one of the titles--one with items. From the Edit menu choose "Delete record."
18:59 jcamins Sure.
18:59 oleonard Got a weird problem that is stumping me... I'll lay it out and you can think about it if you have time.
18:59 jcamins Sort of. What's up?
18:58 oleonard jcamins: Around?
18:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #1642 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:50 wajasu whats the difference between fines.pl and staticfines.pl?
18:49 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11256: (follow-up) tweak description of the OpacMaxItemsToDisplay syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=827c7e8ece70ef3ff919d863489bab93010dd7a3> / Bug 11256: DBRev 3.15.00.019 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e0e56963fba78f3ac0e0dbedcc4fb8f601168414> / Bug 11256: Opac: Set a number of items to display on a biblio detail page - bootstrap <http://git.koh
18:48 wajasu i suppose i could run the scripts after checking out an item making it overdue and see the calculation results before and after to see if the holiday is taken into consideration.
18:46 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7372 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , RoadTypes should be folded into Authorised Values
18:46 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7372: (follow-up) remove last traces of roadtype table and admin pages
18:46 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7372: DBRev 3.15.00.018
18:46 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7372: Move road types from the roadtype table to the ROADTYPE AV
18:46 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1641: SUCCESS in 2 hr 22 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1641/
18:46 wajasu maybe someone else can help. he wants me to test calculcation code based onthe calendar event i create. i am guessing he means the staticfines.pl and fines.pl scripts.
18:44 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar
18:44 wajasu pianohacker: got some questions on testing bug 11211
18:39 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9677 - Style button on notices and slips page with Bootstrap <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=36eac129f7fdab89ffd77ba5f3bd3add688deedc>
18:32 jenkins_koha Starting build #359 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:29 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11799: Housekeeping: Remove _biblionumber_sth from VirtualShelves.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5e0d450875f24d1f9ef6620b033b5179633589da>
18:26 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11562 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , QA: the sysprefs.sql is not correctly sorted
18:26 jenkins_koha Jonathan Druart: Bug 11562: re-sort sysprefs.sql
18:26 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #358: SUCCESS in 57 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/358/
18:19 wajasu ahh ;)
18:19 wahanui i think pianohacker is a Dune fan, it seems.
18:19 oleonard wajasu: pianohacker.
18:17 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar
18:17 wajasu pianotuner. got a question about testing bug 11211
18:16 reiveune bye
17:49 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10580: (follow-up) tweak wording about looking for zebrasrv & zebraidx <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d276d58099fa60666bccc13c7b9d839946946c1> / Bug 10580: adjust Makefile.PL to reflect that Zebra no longer optional in Koha setup <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b989fe0b2097d747da1fd6d04aa8aecc5652d06>
17:47 JesseM koha-community.org :)
17:47 JesseM koha-communtiy.org is down again
17:30 jenkins_koha Starting build #358 for job master_maria (previous build: FIXED)
17:29 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11562: re-sort sysprefs.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=988dc3b64af00d34f535b811f4093782ac7925a1>
17:24 * cait waves
17:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7372 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , RoadTypes should be folded into Authorised Values
17:23 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7372: (follow-up) remove last traces of roadtype table and admin pages
17:23 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7372: DBRev 3.15.00.018
17:23 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7372: Move road types from the roadtype table to the ROADTYPE AV
17:23 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #357: FIXED in 1 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/357/
17:23 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
17:23 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
17:02 dbs oleonard++ # thank you!
16:50 oleonard thanks dbs. Now the bug will show up in the "needs signoff" queue and hopefully attract some attention.
16:49 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11786 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dan, Needs Signoff , Improve RDFa schema.org mappings in prog and bootstrap
16:49 dbs oleonard: okay, I think bug 11786 is in the right state now :)
16:38 dbs oleonard: will do
16:27 cait have a good weekend everyone :)
16:27 cait hehe
16:26 jenkins_koha Starting build #1641 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:24 * oleonard sits patiently waiting for the cookies to arrive
16:23 jenkins_koha Starting build #357 for job master_maria (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #355 21 hr ago)
16:20 * cait sends oleonard cookies
16:20 cait oleonard: but it's still nice to see it die somehow
16:20 cait oleonard: oups.
16:19 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11770 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Use validation plugin when creating new road type
16:19 oleonard Hm, so much for Bug 11770...
16:18 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7372: (follow-up) remove last traces of roadtype table and admin pages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2be50eba0fe16a7243722f3edac56447c2b6fa75> / Bug 7372: DBRev 3.15.00.018 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=67653c8d5f2702ae6e9a110a22a15d68b199c938> / Bug 7372: Move road types from the roadtype table to the ROADTYPE AV <http://git.koha-community.org/gitwe
16:16 oleonard dbs: Assign it to yourself and change the status to "needs signoff"
16:15 dbs Is there anything else I need to do?
16:14 dbs oleonard: I believe so
16:14 cait oleonard++ too :)
16:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11786 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Improve RDFa schema.org mappings in prog and bootstrap
16:11 oleonard dbs: Bug 11786 is ready for signoff is it not?
16:11 francharb thanks :)
16:10 cait francharb++ :)
16:03 francharb :)
16:03 cait :)
16:03 cait i think i understand better now
16:03 cait that's good :)
16:02 francharb ;)
16:02 francharb anyway, so far I only had to work with 1 inner counter
16:02 francharb there are 3 innerloops column in the subscription tables
16:01 francharb I'm wrong
16:01 cait haven#t checked the new structure yet
16:00 cait it used t have one for each variable
16:00 francharb lets check
16:00 francharb not sure because I think the database only have one innercounter field...
16:00 cait maybe it's for a very weird pattern we can't imagine right now :)
15:59 francharb cait, I may be wrong...
15:58 francharb good point
15:58 cait so why show three input fields?
15:58 francharb :)
15:58 francharb cait, only one inner counter to rull them all
15:57 cait francharb: hm?
15:57 francharb there is only 1 inner conter
15:56 cait oleonard: aaah, ok, i will have to check my translations :)
15:56 francharb in the end, no matter you put it, the inner counter works for every variable I think
15:56 cait but it's ok, i think i got it now, need to tinker a bit more
15:56 francharb different logic
15:56 cait different minds :)
15:56 francharb funny, not me
15:55 cait i would have set it under Number
15:55 cait http://manual.koha-community.org/3.14/en/backpackerserial.html
15:55 cait francharb: it is, but i would have expected it to be set in the same column as the letter it belongs to
15:54 francharb hope it's understandable... ;)
15:53 francharb cait, during my trainings, I explain the innercounter this way : you have to define it only when you have a numbering that goes back to 1 (usually, Vol. N°) and when you start receiving not at the first issue of the numbering of the current year. Inner counter is the number of issues you would have received if you had started to receive it from the beginning of the numbering this year.
15:52 oleonard n/a means "not applicable"
15:48 cait jajm: i think n/a means not available - wondering if patrons might think it will never get published then
15:47 cait oleonard: and we are discussing better options for XXX
15:47 cait hm.
15:47 cait actually i didn't realize until right now that it was to solve htis
15:47 cait jajm: no idea about 8044 - i wouldn't rely on it right now ;)
15:46 cait so in the past the expected date got set to XXX
15:46 cait when you have an irregular subscription, you don't know when the next issue will arrive
15:46 oleonard cait: What are we talking about?
15:45 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Localization for Perl scripts and modules
15:45 jajm cait, not a problem, since bug 8044 will be pushed to master soon, right? :)
15:45 cait native speakers? oleonard?
15:45 cait or just: date unknown?
15:44 cait no reason to not make that nicer, but maybe more work to switch to a translatable string
15:44 cait I think the problem might be that the XXX might hide in the pl files
15:44 cait Exact date unknown?
15:44 cait :)
15:44 cait i am not attached to XXX
15:43 jajm cait, maybe we can choose something different from "XXX"... maybe "N/A" ?
15:40 jajm :)
15:36 cait ... not that i understood the serials code before the changes
15:36 cait is there a chance for a patch? I think it might be a bit too hard for me, not knowing exactly how it all works together now
15:34 jajm cait, yes it's a regression, I was not aware of this 'XXX' behaviour when I made these changes
15:32 cait it's a small regression i think - or i couldn't figure out how to do it
15:31 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11637 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , No way to prevent a prediction date for the next issue in serials
15:31 cait did you see bug 11637 i reported?
15:31 cait i made a screenshot, so I don't forget :)
15:31 cait Joubu++
15:31 cait jajm++
15:30 cait better train people to always test the prediction pattern with lots of issues, to see the rollover
15:30 cait hmmi see how it works now - thank you jajm
15:28 cait because the prediction is the same, when you forget it and when not
15:28 cait hm that could cause qite some trouble with people forgetting
15:28 cait ah
15:28 jajm cait, because Y begins with 3, so we have to set innercounter in order for X to be incremented when Y will be reset to 1
15:26 cait why is innr counter 2?
15:26 cait so the first example
15:26 Joubu cait: there are some examples on the manual: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.14/en/backpackerserial.html
15:25 jajm if you want your subscription to start at Vol 1 No 3 for example, you will have to set innercounter
15:25 cait i tried setting several values and the prediction pattern is always the same
15:25 cait i see how that would work in the advanced pattern - but why show it when i don't have it open?
15:24 jajm when the first serial is received, innercounter = 1, 2nd serial: innercounter = 2, ..., 4th serial, innercounter = 4 (> 3) then innercounter is reset to 1 and X is incremented
15:24 cait i think
15:24 cait hm that's what the rollover at used to be
15:23 jajm X has to be incremented every 3 serials (every = 3)
15:23 cait ok
15:23 jajm cait, say you have a numbering pattern which works like this: Vol 1 No 1, Vol 1 No 2, Vol 1 No 3, Vol 2 No 1, ... (Vol {X} No {Y})
15:22 cait could you give an example?
15:22 cait hm jajm - i am sorry, i don't understand yet
15:21 jajm cait, innercounter is used when every > 1, innercounter is incremented for each serial received, and when innercounter > every, the number (X, Y, or Z) is incremented
15:20 cait it seems to work when i set Begins with 2014 2 - but what is inner counter for then?
15:20 cait and i don't know what inner counter does
15:20 cait then you have: Begins with and Inner counter to be set
15:19 cait numbering pattern volume, number
15:18 cait subscription start 1st february
15:18 cait issues 12
15:18 cait the frequency i tried was 1/month
15:18 jajm cait, isn't the "Begins with" what you are looking for ?
15:17 cait i mean you could also delete the first issues... ubt it might be a bit annoying for something that is like weekly
15:17 cait or you subscribe late and don't receive the first isssue
15:17 cait you are starting to use serials mid of the year
15:17 jajm cait, what do you mean by "not the first issue" ?
15:16 cait when you select 1/month
15:16 cait i am not sure what it's used for actually - it used to be the current number... I think
15:16 cait i think i was confused by the inner counter
15:16 Joubu cait: I'm trying to understand the question ;)
15:08 cait but whatever i set the inner coutner to, it didn't seem to change how the prediction was made
15:08 cait Joubu: i wondered earlier - is it still possible to start a subscription at not the first issue? i tried with a monthly frequency, volume issue pattern
14:58 khall duly noted!
14:58 Joubu khall: So, I am going to open a new report with your patch and mine
14:57 khall that sounds like a good plan Joubu
14:56 khall excellent!
14:56 Joubu khall: Both are complementary I think. You manage all statuses, I dealt with missing statuses only.
14:55 Joubu Like that, I can submit my followup on top of yours
14:54 Joubu Do you see an inconvenience to create another report to add the constant statuses?
14:54 khall sorry! I should have said something in channel. If yours is better than mine just depricate it
14:54 Joubu khall: I started a patch for the constant in C4::Serials, I didn't see you submit one.
14:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11813 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Send 'Opac self registration verification' email from branch address if possible
14:38 cait bug 11813
14:36 khall lol ; )
14:33 cait makes me feel more thorough about my investigations :)
14:33 khall sure!
14:33 cait hm i might file an enh request if that's ok?
14:32 khall pretty much, I wouldn't be hard to make it try the branch address first though
14:29 cait i was testing from which address each mail is sent :)
14:28 cait it's been sent from the admin address - because branch can be optional?
14:28 khall thanks!
14:28 * oleonard validates all the things
14:28 cait khall: also tested the patron registraton feature - it's nice with the one time URL :)
14:27 cait thx oleonard!
13:51 khall thanks!
13:51 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11689 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , New missing statuses is not well managed
13:51 Joubu khall: I answered you on bug 11689 ;)
13:37 cait yep
13:37 magnuse cait: testing on master?
13:37 magnuse yay
13:37 khall excellent!
13:36 cait on some happy news... i am testing koha notices today, all emails koha can send and so far it works quite well :)
13:35 khall mornin cait et al!
13:35 khall : )
13:35 cait khall++ :)
13:34 ashimema Hi oleonard
13:34 ashimema i thought there were more extentions installed.. but now I'm less sure.
13:34 ashimema too
13:34 ashimema yeah.. I think I got confused..
13:31 oleonard Hi ashimema
13:31 cait the list of categories on editing is still there...
13:31 cait hm mabe i just imagined it
13:29 cait but i noticed it looked tidier this morning
13:29 * cait is innocent
13:28 ashimema ooh.. has someone been tidying the wiki? I've noticed a whole load of extensions have disapeared and some of my favourite one's have been installed.
13:19 cait thought it might be included in the validation patches, but couldn't find the right one
13:19 cait i was testing suggestions earlier and looked at the related bugs
13:19 oleonard Thanks for pointing it out, I hadn't seen that one on my list
13:19 cait ah ok
13:18 oleonard Hm, I don't think so
13:16 cait posible you already fixed 10751 in one of your patches?
13:16 cait h oleonard :)
13:12 oleonard Hi #koha
12:58 francharb o/ cait
12:58 cait hi francharb
12:57 francharb good morning #koha
12:53 cait mveron: sorry, was afk
12:53 cait tcohen: morning :)
12:48 tcohen morning #koha
12:38 mveron ...ah, I mistaked, forget this... :-)
12:35 mveron But I get no results
12:35 mveron Language code in 040 a is ger
12:34 mveron I'm struggling with advanced search in the OPAC, restricting to languages...
12:33 mveron Hi cait :-)
12:33 cait hi mveron
12:24 mveron Hi #koha
10:26 paxed bah.
10:25 magnuse paxed: well as i said, no complaints
10:04 paxed for example, searching for "rölli" returns also "rolling stones", because zebra matches ö and o.
10:01 paxed magnuse: that's for _sorting_, not for searching.
09:50 magnuse paxed: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=etc/zebradb/lang_defs/nb/sort-string-utf.chr;h=9cb9c56c6e54ba05fcd13053b6e443187b2e2feb;hb=HEAD - never had any complaints
09:42 paxed ah, bad example as it seems both are the same word, just alt forms.
09:41 paxed magnuse: for example, do you differentiate between "da" and "då" when searching?
09:39 paxed magnuse: how do you handle searching for å etc?
08:50 paxed accents*
08:50 paxed i have no idea how i'd do remove accepts, except from ö, ä and å.
08:43 paxed ahh. so <transform rule="NFD"/><transform rule="[:Nonspacing Mark:] Remove"/><transform rule="NFC"/> turns all accented letters into ones without accents.
08:16 magnuse god morgen cait & #koha
08:01 cait guten morgen #koha
08:00 wahanui bidet, Joubu
08:00 Joubu hello
07:59 wahanui i guess germs is http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg
07:59 huginn` GERMS!!!!
07:47 alex_a et reiveune
07:47 alex_a bonjour magnuse
07:44 magnuse windchill--
07:44 reiveune salut magnuse
07:44 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 21, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -14.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Falling).
07:44 magnuse @wunder boo
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07:44 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:44 magnuse bonjour reiveune alex_a
07:43 alex_a bonjour
07:38 reiveune hello
07:36 * magnuse waves
07:27 paxed not the same word. not pronounced the same. not the same meaning. not ordered in any other way except the correct alphabetical order.
07:26 paxed because "sää" and "saa", for example. totally different meanings
07:26 dcook Anyway, my day is over. Good luck, paxed
07:25 dcook ta, cait
07:25 cait time for work bye
07:25 dcook Only if it's dramatic?
07:25 paxed shall i flip the table again?
07:24 dcook Err "need" rather than "want"
07:24 dcook Hmm, yeah, I don't know why you'd necessarily want to differentiate between ä and a
07:22 * dcook thinks ICU is related to IBM
07:20 cait http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/icuchain-files.html
07:18 cait http://site.icu-project.org/home#TOC-What-is-ICU-
07:17 cait ICU is not Koha specific or even Zebra - i think there is documentation on the web
07:16 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Correcting_Search_of_Arabic_records
07:16 cait you might want to start here
07:15 paxed i'd be happy to change things, if the things were documented ...
07:15 cait i think what you want to do is possible, but you will have to change things
07:15 paxed (╯°□°）╯︵ â”»â”â”»
07:15 cait but that's my guess
07:15 cait and some databases do work like that as well
07:14 cait so people are used that non exact matches might show up as well
07:14 cait and there is fuzzy searching nowadays
07:14 cait i think the results are still not too bad, because there is the rest of the word as well
07:14 paxed doesn't seem to matter, if your users are happy with collating ä and a.
07:13 cait the sound may be similar, but the word is not
07:13 cait i don't know finnish really, but you can't replay a and ä in german words
07:13 paxed in finnish ä is not a with an umlaut. it's a separate letter.
07:12 cait well they don't list the umlauts, they are still there :)
07:12 paxed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_alphabet vs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_alphabet
07:10 cait it is here too
07:10 paxed ä is totally different case
07:10 cait but it's still different characters
07:10 cait no it is not
07:10 paxed cait: because German is not Finnish.
07:10 cait paxed: if you have non latin scripts in your database there is no way around ICU
07:09 cait [off] http://hfjs.bsz-bw.de < if you want to test
07:09 cait paxed: we also have umlauts in German - people don't seem to have a problem with the fact that we don't differentiate in search - I have one library using ICU because they have Hebrew records
07:03 cait dcook: it's kinda the point of it that it will make it possible to search all things with the base characters - but people here don't dislike that
07:02 cait dcook: standard icu won't treat a and ä differently
07:02 cait paxed: check the wiki for instructions
06:35 wahanui somebody said icu was a good idea.
06:35 brendan_ icu?
06:27 paxed i'm really starting to hate zebra
06:27 paxed dcook: ugh. what files whould i need to touch for icu?
06:23 dcook That's not fun. You're probably better off using ICU indexing if you have diacritics
06:20 paxed ffs. tried to make 'ä' and 'a' separate by editing word-phrase-utf.chr, and now zebra can't find anything if the search string contains a 'ä' ...
04:09 dcook Figuratively...or textually that is...
04:09 * dcook makes some nice just for something different
00:54 dcook O_O
00:51 wizzyrea pft
00:50 dcook Nah, people are heaps nice. You're pretty rad yourself, wizzyrea
00:50 * dcook thinks wizzyrea is in the wrong channel
00:50 dcook Wha?
00:48 wizzyrea you people are nice, I appreciate you.
00:31 wajasu its times like these that i wish i could just code a test against modules. CreateBorrower, CatalogItem, CheckoutItemWithSpecifiedDueDate, CalcFineAsOfDate. Then Do the same but with CreateCalendarEventOn, and CalcFineAsOfDate to see affects.
00:25 wajasu maybe a test would be in order.
00:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar
00:24 wajasu been testing bug 11211. got through steps 1-4. does anyone know if i need to checkout an item and run the fines job after the due date and see if it takes into consideration any "closed" days?