IRC log for #koha, 2013-12-19

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00:00 dcook I wonder what happens for anonymous suggestions..I suppose you need to have an anonymous patron set up so probably just failed emails
00:00 dcook Or you'd have the same error if folks left the syspref at 0
00:01 eythian dcook: that's what you have to do, yes
00:01 eythian Though I think it doesn't allow anon suggestions if you don't have an anon patron (IIRC)
00:01 eythian as in, the UI for it doesn't show up.
00:02 dcook Something like that
00:02 dcook Or rather...
00:02 dcook I think you can make anonymous suggestions, but they don't appear in the management UI
00:02 dcook Which is a bit problematic...(at least, that was in 3.8.0)
00:02 * dcook is really looking forward to upgrading at some point...
00:02 eythian I remember looking at this some time ago, so my memory may be hazy.
00:02 eythian it would have been around 3.8 that I was looking into it
00:03 dcook I suppose the easiest thing to do is just check if the borrowernumber is valid before trying to send the email
00:08 jcamins dcook: or add an ON DELETE CASCADE to message_queue, since the manual already says that if you haven't set up an anonymous patron, you can't use certain anonymous features.
00:09 dcook O_o
00:10 dcook Wouldn't those be two separate things?
00:10 jcamins Yes, I'm suggesting that the anonymous patron is a non-issue wrt to the problem you ran into, and the problem you ran into can be solved by deleting messages in the queue when a borrower is deleted.
00:11 dcook Actually, message_queue already has a cascading delete for the borrowernumber FK. Hmm..
00:11 jcamins There we go, then. Very sensible.
00:11 dcook Ah, but that's not the problem
00:11 * gmcharlt would personally prefer that suggestedby just be made nullable and an on delete set null FK to borrowers.borrowernumber
00:11 dcook ^^
00:11 dcook That would do it
00:12 * dcook thinks this also makes the most sense
00:12 jcamins Oh, I misunderstood the problem.
00:12 * jcamins is writing a presentation, and just skimmed.
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00:12 jcamins I thought the problem was a stuck e-mail for a patron that was deleted.
00:12 dcook No worries, jcamins
00:13 dcook Hmm
00:13 gaetan_B bye !
00:13 dcook I might make a local stopgap in the meantime but also report a Bugzilla issue for this one
00:14 dcook It would probably need to be checked a bit more thoroughly to see if it would cause issues anywhere else with suggestions
00:15 gmcharlt yeah, there's one obvious question of what a library wants to happen to an active suggestion made by a patron that's to be deleted
00:15 dcook Yeah, I was pondering that as well.
00:15 gmcharlt on the other hand, if a patron has made a recent suggestion, that might be reason to consider them active enough to avoid the automatic pruge
00:16 dcook Automatic purge? Do we have one of those?
00:17 gmcharlt tools/cleanborrower.pl
00:18 dcook (Snap, I think there is a Cyanogenmod build for my 2.5 year old smart phone...that's awesome)
00:18 gmcharlt and misc/cronjobs/delete_patrons.pl
00:18 dcook Huh, I knew about cleanborrower.pl, but I didn't know about delete_patrons.pl
00:19 dcook I didn't realize that cleanborrower was based on borrowing dates. That could be a bit problematic as well..
00:19 jcamins What with it not taking into account electronic resources? Yeah.
00:20 dcook Indeed
00:20 dcook Casual use of the library as well, although that one is more difficult to track
00:21 dcook (Damn it. Now I really want to install CyanogenMod on my phone, but...my new one hasn't arrived yet...)
00:21 jcamins That one's not as much of a problem, though, I think... if you haven't come into the library in two years, you probably would understand if they wanted you to confirm your address, etc.
00:21 dcook (Ah, based on Gingerbread anyway, so it might not be much of an improvement, anyway.)
00:22 dcook jcamins: Good point.
00:57 drojf in master, the second i start typing in the global sysprefs search field, the focus jumps to the search field on top of the page. can anyone reproduce that? i did not find a bug for it and i'm not sure if it is a local problem
01:02 dcook I'll take a look, drojf
01:02 drojf thanks dcook
01:03 dcook Erm. Just give me a minute.
01:06 dcook drojf: fwiw, what browser are you using?
01:07 drojf iceweasel… some ancient firefox on debian
01:07 dcook hehe
01:07 drojf 17. lol. i think they are at something like 28
01:07 dcook Yeah, I think my Firefox on here is 26 or so
01:07 drojf i should try a later one, good point
01:08 dcook Ah, I was just curious because I tend to use Chrome/Chromium almost exclusively
01:08 drojf on the other hand, we want so support IE7 :P
01:08 dcook That we do
01:08 * dcook cringes
01:08 dcook I'm one of the pro supporting IE7 folks :p
01:08 dcook Mostly because we have clients who have to use it :(
01:09 drojf what other reason would there be… ;)
01:09 * dcook wonders if there are any actual library users using IE
01:09 dcook Or if it's all library staff
01:09 drojf does the staff client work with IE7?
01:09 eythian is IE7 still supported?
01:09 drojf i thought that is only for the OPAC
01:09 rangi nope
01:09 eythian like, by microsoft
01:09 rangi nope
01:09 rangi in fact they tell you to use firefox
01:09 rangi if you cant upgrade from xp yet
01:10 drojf that is why the FOSS scene should keep it alive ^^
01:10 drojf or even http://saveie6.com/
01:10 * dcook is still bitter about the whole IE 11 thing
01:10 dcook Let's make it harder for you to develop for our inferior software by making it say that it's better than it is...
01:10 eythian what IE11 thing?
01:11 dcook They've changed the appName to Netscape from Microsoft Internet Explorer
01:11 dcook They've also removed the MSIE from wherever that was
01:11 dcook Admittedly, feature detection is better than browser detection, but sometimes you just have to do the latter
01:12 eythian oh right
01:12 * dcook is finally rebased and upgraded
01:12 rangi i dont think the project needs to support ie7
01:12 dcook Ok, so what was that again, drojf?
01:12 dcook Is this from "/cgi-bin/koha/admin/admin-home.pl"?
01:13 rangi if support companies have to, that's their problem
01:13 rangi (we currently have to, for a little while longer for at least one client)
01:13 dcook rangi: Touché
01:13 dcook I should put together a profile of clients we need to support ie7 for
01:13 rangi and charge them double
01:14 dcook Indeed
01:14 rangi we actually do when it comes to design, not double, but it will cost more
01:14 rangi cos it takes a lot more work
01:14 dcook I think that's reasonable
01:14 dcook Such more more work
01:14 rangi yep
01:14 dcook Such = so
01:14 dcook s/more/much/
01:14 rangi heh
01:14 * dcook can't type today apparently
01:15 drojf dcook: yep, on cgi-bin/koha/admin/admin-home.pl if i choose the search field under 'global system preferences', focus changes to the search field on top
01:15 dcook I did a spell check of an article I wrote without spellcheck though...no spelling errors. I was happy with that.
01:15 dcook drojf: I just tried it and it seems fine :/
01:15 drojf *focus changes when i press any key
01:15 drojf ok
01:15 drojf i have no userjs, i just checked
01:15 dcook That's in Chrome on Windows 8
01:15 drojf oh
01:16 drojf its a translation thing. i changed to english to see how the field is named correctly, and it works
01:16 drojf :)
01:16 dcook Glad you figured it out. Sucks that it exists :/
01:16 drojf my translation files are just not up to date
01:16 drojf that's fine
01:16 drojf usually oi dont use german in master
01:16 drojf not sure why it was enabled
01:17 drojf thanks for trying! that really confused me
01:18 dcook np :)
01:22 rangi tracked it down
01:22 rangi it never tries to reconnect
01:22 rangi (this is my Zconn thing)
01:23 rangi under cgi its fine, script dies, new connection
01:23 rangi under plack, timesout from inactivity
01:23 rangi new connection is never made
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01:35 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
01:38 drojf looks like you can basically install everything on hetzner root servers. cool. i guess i'll start with a regular debian and multiple instances anyway in case anything comes out of that "join the koha hosting business" thing
01:39 rangi yeah im using hetzner
01:40 drojf root server or vps?
01:40 rangi vps
01:40 rangi http://scoreboard.koha-community.org/  <-- thats on there
01:40 rangi amongst other things
01:42 drojf cool
01:44 drojf the vps are only single core so i was thinking of a root server. i had two libraries ask about hosting and that seems much more powerful than two vps
01:44 rangi yep
01:46 dcook join the koha hosting business!
01:46 * dcook thinks rangi has servers all over the world
01:46 rangi pretty much
01:47 * dcook should really join in on this cloud thang
01:49 drojf i tried to tell libraries to host their own koha for quite a while now. i accept that is not for everyone, and i also would not mind to be able to continue working with koha after my contract ends in march. so, well, if they insist, i might host it. ^^
01:50 eythian We've found that (to generalise) there are two main schools of thought for libraries: those (often regional councils) who must in-house everything they can, and those (often government) who outsource everything they can. Probably to avoid their own IT people.
01:50 eythian So for the latter, we host, for the former, we just support and they host.
01:51 drojf avoid_own_it_people++ (unfortunately those that should be avoided are the ones that are used)
01:52 eythian In general, we've found the council IT to be pretty good. These are small councils, so might have just a few people, all of whom are competent.
01:52 drojf but yes. i was thinking of support for people that host in-house but need the certain 'X' on top of that. now that there seems to be demand for the other way round i consider doing that too
01:53 rangi IT depts, ruining it for everyone since 1982
01:53 eythian I can believe that. Universities tend to get quite political internally.
01:54 dcook Outsourcing makes a lot of sense in a lot of ways though
01:54 dcook Depending on the price
01:55 * dcook was going to use the example of the people who mow his lawn, then he remembered that he's actually being ripped off for that and that it's not a good example at all
01:56 drojf if there is no infrastructure available, it may cost you time and money worth months of hosting just to get the right stuff. and then you need to get it working ^^
01:56 dcook Totes
01:56 dcook And maintained
01:56 drojf and you can do a lot of weird things when installing koha without any idea what you are doing
01:59 rangi outsourcing is a lot safer with floss
02:00 drojf sure. just having the option of switching the vendor is fantastic
02:00 drojf try that with a closed library system…
02:01 rangi also
02:01 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=305viYB-G1U
02:01 rangi 91 years old, and still awesome!
02:02 dcook I have no idea what I'm looking at right now
02:02 * dcook says in reference to the video
02:03 dcook Ah, apparently I had Mogwai on in the background too
02:03 dcook That might've contributed..
02:03 drojf i had headphones plugged in and wondered why he's whispering
02:06 * dcook debates staying in or going out for lunch...
02:06 drojf yeah he's cool. if i ever make it to >90 i will cover that song :D
02:07 rangi :)
02:08 rangi so thats the lounge -> metal
02:08 rangi and kinda going back the other way
02:08 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLAbAp5tbU0
02:10 drojf that's horrible. in a fascinating kind of way.
02:10 rangi hehe
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02:38 eythian Richard Cheese is pretty good.
02:45 dcook Richard Cheese is the best.
02:46 * mtompset tacks on a "in my opinion" implicitly. ;)
02:46 dcook I think he still might be touring too..
02:46 dcook Nope. Objective fact, mtompset. :p
02:46 mtompset Well, best... No. Pretty good. Yes.
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02:51 eythian Yeah, it's objective, not opinion.
03:00 mtompset You can't say best, unless you have listened to everything in the universe.
03:02 eythian Can too
03:06 mtompset How can you definitively know something is the best without knowing everything?
03:07 mtompset probably could get it within a confidence interval range with limited knowledge, but 100% certainty requires 100% knowledge.
03:09 eythian I just know.
03:09 mtompset I admire your faith, eythian, but I can't say that I agree with it.
03:10 mtompset Unless you care to define your criteria for knowing, in which case I may have to agree based on definition if your criteria fit.
03:11 eythian You don't have to agree, but that will make you wrong, of course.
03:11 eythian Everybody who I know is right always agrees with me.
03:12 * mtompset laughs, "Okay."
03:13 mtompset On an aside, I've almost made the News by Branch patch split into nice parts. YAY!
03:13 mtompset Should be done in 24 hours. YAY!
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03:20 Brooke o/
03:20 dcook \o
03:22 mtompset Greetings, Brooke.
03:22 Brooke how's it going?
03:23 mtompset Oh, and belated greetings eythian dcook rangi.
03:23 mtompset wizzyrea: You here?
03:23 mtompset @seen wizzyrea
03:23 huginn mtompset: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 5 hours, 46 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> 3.6 was lovely and stable
03:25 mtompset I was going to ask about quick slips and news.
03:25 mtompset (since I'm in the midst of tweaking the final stages on my patches)
03:27 ebegin hey #koha !
03:29 mtompset Greetings, ebegin.
03:29 dcook hey ebegin :)
03:29 mtompset Comment ça va à Montréal? :)
03:30 ebegin mtompset, Je suis à Ottawa en ce moment
03:30 mtompset Ah, across the river. :)
03:31 mtompset How far is Ottawa from Montreal?
03:31 ebegin yep :-) We (with francharb) giving a training to a new client nearby, on the Quebec side
03:31 ebegin mtompset, about 2 hours
03:32 mtompset So basically a good days drive from here to Montreal then. :)
03:32 mtompset ~8 hours.
03:32 ebegin yep. I did it once in order to spend few days in Toronto area
03:36 dcook Ahh, je pense que j'ai trouvé un bon méthode pour changer les langues avec mon clavier dans Windows...
03:36 dcook \o/
03:38 ebegin dcook, ça semble fonctionner :)
03:38 dcook D'accord :)
03:39 ebegin dcook, usually, you can set multiple languages / keyboard and switch them using a key combinason. I use Ctrl + Shift
03:39 dcook Yeah, that's what I've done in the past but Windows 8 is a bit different
03:39 dcook Windows key + Space is now the default combination now
03:40 dcook (minus one of those nows..)
03:41 dcook I cannot remember if I prefer Canadian French or Canadian Multilingual Standard
03:41 dcook Possibly the former..
03:42 dcook Ouais, certainement le premier choix.
03:43 mtompset To be honest, I just cut and paste my text from external sources. :)
03:43 dcook mtompset: You can cheat using Alt + numberpad in most cases. It doesn't work so well with the IRC clients I've used though
03:43 mtompset I used to remember the alt codes for accents. :)
03:43 ebegin dcook, It usually depends on your keybord layout
03:44 ebegin mtompset, é = alt + 130
03:44 * dcook did the majority of his 100-level French using alt + numberpad
03:44 mtompset dcook++ # you're the man! :)
03:44 dcook When I started writing essays in French for the 200/300 level courses, it was time to switch to actual keyboards though :p
03:45 dcook ebegin: Yeah, that makes sense. Usually a person can change the combination as well.
03:45 mtompset could you get the spell checker to correct your English typed words to the correct French? ;)
03:45 dcook Mmm, sometimes
03:46 dcook I was pretty careful though. Good dictionaries.
03:46 dcook I think the hardest part is remembering some of the finer intricacies of the grammar
03:46 dcook Although studying French made me understand English grammar way better..
03:47 ebegin if you need a very good (but not free) spell checker, I recommand Antidote : www.druide.com/antidote.html‎
03:47 * Brooke remembers how utterly intimidating a French keyboard is.
03:47 dcook ebegin: Antidote has a mobile app too, no?
03:47 ebegin Can not leave without it, even for a native french
03:47 Brooke I don't know how y'all swap back and forth without losing your bloody minds
03:47 mtompset Frustrating would be the word I use, Brooke. :)
03:47 ebegin dcook, I think so
03:48 ebegin Brooke, you means a french keyboard from France.
03:48 dcook Brooke: That's a good question. There are still a few keys I don't know in the Canadian French keyboards but overall...it seems like muscle memory
03:48 ebegin Our keyboard, in Quebec, have the same layout as the US, with minor differences for the diacritics
03:49 dcook Hmm, my browser didn't like that antidote page
03:49 Brooke ebegin: yep
03:49 mtompset Ooooo.... sweet! My patches apply to 3.14.x nicely with no changes. :)
03:49 mtompset @seen tcohen
03:49 huginn mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 10 hours, 58 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <tcohen> @karma
03:50 ebegin french keyboards from France are called « AZERTY » because of the first 6 letters. Other keyboards are called QWERTY, which should be the case for all people around here but BibLibers
03:51 Brooke eythian++ for subbing in for druthb
03:51 mtompset I learned about that recently, when a facebook friend of mine complained that they had thought they found a good cheap source for keyboards, but discovered they were AZERTY.
03:51 ebegin So, instead of the Q as you have, they have the A, Z replaces our W. and so on.
03:51 ebegin mtompset, we do have a store like this near my office too :)
03:52 mtompset I can imagine that touch-typists get really messed up in the head if they have to switch keyboards.
03:54 ebegin mtompset, francharb is funny when he fights its querty keyboard when he gives the training session :)
03:55 ebegin being french, he uses a azerty keyboard for years and now has to change... :)
03:55 mtompset @later tell tcohen A majority of the patches for bug 7567 can be applied against 3.14.x -- I haven't finished converting the big patch to smaller pieces yet, but all those smaller pieces there apply nicely.
03:55 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
03:56 mtompset Why doesn't he just go buy an azerty keyboard and carry it with him?
03:56 dcook Change is good ;)
03:56 wahanui dcook: that doesn't look right
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03:57 dcook Ok, so wahanui doesn't like change...
03:57 eythian he really doesn't. I've been meaning to figure out why, but haven't.
03:57 ebegin change is really good
03:57 wahanui ebegin: that doesn't look right
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03:58 ebegin wahanui gave up :)
03:58 wahanui ebegin: huh?
03:58 ebegin wahanui, yes, you left ;)
03:58 wahanui ebegin: sorry...
03:58 ebegin wahanui, np ;)
03:58 wahanui ebegin: excuse me?
03:59 * ebegin is not crazy, I know wahanui is a bot
03:59 ebegin btw ;)
03:59 eythian wahanui: are you a bot?
03:59 wahanui wish i knew, eythian
03:59 eythian wahanui: are \you a bot is <reply>What? No.
03:59 wahanui ...but are you a bot is <reply>http://youtu.be/-Vzw1NdSZmc...
04:00 ebegin eythian, is your name etienne ?
04:00 eythian nope
04:00 ebegin Nope, Robin ;)
04:00 eythian yep :)
04:00 mtompset http://youtu.be/v8G14REucsQ
04:00 ebegin your nick sounds like if I was saying Etienne
04:01 eythian I suppose it could. Everyone seems to pronounce it differently (and half the time, spell it differently too.)
04:01 * dcook chuckles as he reads his scrollback
04:02 mtompset What's the IPA for your name, eythian? ;)
04:02 * dcook has often wondered about the origin of eythian's name
04:02 ebegin mtompset, IPA ?
04:02 ebegin for me, IPA is Indian Pale Ale ;)
04:02 dcook hehe
04:02 ebegin hmmmm... beeeeer
04:02 * dcook prefers Indian Pale Ale to International Phonetic Alphabet
04:03 eythian mtompset: there isn't one.
04:03 dcook Already 3 o'clock here
04:03 eythian dcook: it's shrouded in mystery
04:03 mtompset http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I[…]Phonetic_Alphabet
04:03 dcook eythian: Naturally. That's our eythian.
04:04 mtompset Is it "eh?"-"th"-"ee"-"ann"?
04:05 ebegin mtompset, thanks ! I was not aware of that in english
04:05 eythian mtompset: that's not how I pronounce it.
04:05 eythian but it is how many others do
04:05 ebegin mtompset is canadian, so he puts Eh! everywhere :)
04:06 mtompset How do you pronounce it?
04:06 dcook hehe
04:06 ebegin so is dcook  :-)
04:06 ebegin he doubles them
04:06 ebegin he he
04:06 dcook :p
04:07 dcook Living in Australia, I think I say "eh?" more than I did when I was in Canada. Subconscious refusal to give up my heritage ;).
04:08 eythian mtompset: eye-thee-in, but it was never intended to be particularly phonetic.
04:08 mtompset Ah. So not ƐƟiƆn
04:08 ebegin eythian, any signification ?
04:08 eythian nope
04:08 ebegin mtompset rules in IPA
04:09 ebegin does wahanui means something in maori ?
04:09 eythian yep
04:09 mtompset Ah, so some sort of vowel slide, ƟIn
04:10 eythian I think it's like 'memory', though I'm not 100% sure
04:10 mtompset Ah, so some sort of vowel slide, ƟiIn
04:10 eythian oh no, wait, it's a name
04:10 mtompset Forgot the 'ee'. :)
04:11 eythian it's a name and a conch shell
04:11 eythian I don't know which interpretation was intended for wahanui though
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04:12 mtompset ƆiƟiIn
04:12 mtompset Oh bother! Superscript doesn't cut and paste.
04:12 eythian oh, it also translates as "big mouth" if you treat it as waha nui
04:12 eythian I suspect that's the interpretation.
04:12 ebegin wahanui, what does your name means ?
04:12 wahanui ebegin: wish i knew
04:12 ebegin :)
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04:13 * eythian is totally failing to achieve anything here, might run off.
04:14 mtompset Care to sign off tiny patches? ;)
04:14 mtompset Nevermind... I need to finish the last patch first. :)
04:15 dcook eythian: Time for beer
04:15 eythian you might be on to something there, dcook
04:17 dcook I think I might need one too. This script I'm looking at makes almost no sense.
04:21 mtompset And beer will make it more sensible?
04:22 dcook Beer might make me forget that it exists?
04:26 BobB_ ebegin, eythian, I was lead to believe that wahanui means 'loud mouth' in Maori?
04:29 ebegin BobB_, thanks ! it make sense in a way. wahanui is always talking :-)
04:30 BobB_ that's it
04:30 mtompset dcook: Then your test/changes wouldn't be thorough, but I can understand wanting to ignore it for a while. :)
04:30 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha BobB_ ebegin eythian dcook.
04:36 gmcharlt @quote random
04:36 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #229: "rangi: relax, I signed it off :)" (added by wizzyrea at 08:59 PM, January 02, 2013)
04:48 * ebegin which he could fly to Australia to share a IPA with dcook
04:48 ebegin @wunder ottawa, ontario
04:48 huginn ebegin: The current temperature in General Burns, Ottawa, Ontario is -8.8°C (11:48 PM EST on December 18, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -9.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
04:49 ebegin -8 is not bad
04:53 dcook ebegin: That sounds nice
04:53 dcook The IPA rather than the temperature, that is ;)
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06:04 gmcharlt @worldtime CET
06:04 huginn gmcharlt: Thursday 19 December 2013 07:04
06:05 rangi oh thats a handy one
06:05 rangi good email bt
06:05 rangi w
06:05 gmcharlt @worldtime America/New_York
06:05 huginn gmcharlt: Thursday 19 December 2013 01:05
06:06 gmcharlt @worldtime France/Paris
06:06 huginn gmcharlt: Error: I don't know about France/Paris
06:06 gmcharlt @worldtime Europe/Paris
06:06 huginn gmcharlt: Thursday 19 December 2013 07:06
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06:36 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9673: (follow-up) update DBIx::Class schema classes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4bebf93dde44de38f> / Bug 9673: DBRev 3.15.00.007 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]38736db354559d1be> / Bug 9673: QA followup <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]05024a9d9803a02cb
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06:41 cait morning
06:58 * magnuse waves
06:58 cait gmcharlt++
06:58 magnuse @worldtime Europe/Oslo
06:58 huginn magnuse: Thursday 19 December 2013 07:58
06:59 cait @karma
06:59 huginn cait: Highest karma: "oleonard" (806), "jcamins" (662), and "cait" (495).  Lowest karma: "ie" (-125), "<!" (-116), and "failed" (-111).  You (cait) are ranked 3 out of 2721.
06:59 magnuse gmcharlt++ can't be said too often
06:59 cait hmm
07:03 * dcook started writing this really strange convoluted multi-dimensional array
07:03 dcook Then I realized...if I have to make something this convoluted...something else is wrong further upstream
07:18 magnuse and was it? :-)
07:21 dcook Hmm
07:21 dcook Well, it wasn't working properly, so yes
07:21 dcook I wonder if I could've fixed it within the existing framework, but I don't think so
07:21 dcook It needs to be completely re-imagined
07:21 dcook Don't know if it's worth the time, but it's broken so...:S
07:23 magnuse if it's broke, fix it ;-)
07:24 magnuse is it koha or something else?
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07:25 dcook something else, luckily enough :)
07:25 magnuse yay! ;-)
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07:29 dcook Bleargh...I should get moving. More Christmas stuff to buy...
07:32 cait hi dcook
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07:33 reiveune hello
07:33 dcook hey cait
07:33 dcook salut reiveune
07:34 reiveune salut dcook :)
07:34 dcook All right. Time to indulge in holiday capitalism. Night all!
07:36 cait hi reiveune
07:37 reiveune bonjour cait, kathryn, magnuse :)
07:41 magnuse bonjour reiveune
07:41 magnuse @wunder boo
07:41 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (8:20 AM CET on December 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady).
07:43 cait @wunder Konstanz
07:43 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.3°C (8:40 AM CET on December 19, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
07:43 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:43 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 9.4°C (8:43 AM CET on December 19, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
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07:57 alex_a bonjour
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08:09 cait good morning #koha
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08:16 petter morning koha!
08:18 cait hi petter :)
08:20 matts hi #koha !
08:20 cait hi matts :)
08:20 matts hi cait !
08:20 cait matts: ready for christmas? :)
08:22 petter Can someone enlighten me about Koha's DB-connections?
08:22 petter Is it using a thread-pool?
08:22 petter How many concurrent request can it handle?
08:22 cait guess i am the wrong person to ask
08:23 cait maybe if you wait a bit - it's quite empty here this morning
08:23 petter ok
08:23 petter thanks for the advice!
08:23 petter I'll be patient
08:23 cait not really a helpful one :)
08:23 cait @wunder Konstanz
08:23 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 0.0°C (9:00 AM CET on December 19, 2013). Conditions: Light Fog. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
09:28 ashimema @wunder Stevenage, UK
09:28 huginn ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 5.4°C (9:21 AM GMT on December 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Rising).
09:28 cait good morning ashimema
09:28 ashimema mornin' cait
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09:29 cait hi drojf
09:31 cait interesting
09:31 wahanui well, interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
09:31 cait can someone confirm that the itemtype form is broken when noitemtypeimagesis off?
09:33 cait hm filed abug
09:33 cait bug 11424
09:33 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11424 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Itemtype administration form is broken when noItemTypeImages is activated
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10:39 cait thx Joubu
10:42 Joubu cait: you're welcome :)
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13:10 tcohen morning #koha
13:11 cait morning tcohen :)
13:11 tcohen hi cait
13:12 nlegrand Hey #koha :)
13:12 cait hi nen
13:12 cait hi nlegrand
13:12 cait i keep misreading your nick as nengard :(
13:13 cait just need some more practice :)
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13:14 tcohen cait, doesn't your client have tab-completion?
13:15 tcohen s/client/IRC client/
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13:23 cait tcohen: yeah, but i typed nen... and then realized there was no complete :)
13:23 oleonard Hi #koha
13:25 SlyzertVoltrond hi
13:25 wahanui hey, SlyzertVoltrond
13:25 SlyzertVoltrond hey there
13:27 oleonard I guess I need to step up on the signoffs. Or maybe stop submitting patches? http://paste.koha-community.org/27
13:27 oleonard If only some of the other developers here at ACPL would get off their butts and start signing off
13:27 oleonard Oh wait... Nope, just me.
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13:29 cait oleonard: take some cookies, go do sign offs... :P
13:29 SlyzertVoltrond changing usercss in system preferences doesn't seem to work anymore
13:30 cait maybe you have a syntax error
13:30 oleonard Are those numbers for PTFS-Europe right? No signoffs?
13:30 cait but ashimema is on qa now .)
13:30 oleonard SlyzertVoltrond: What version are you using, and what are you trying to do?
13:31 ashimema I was somewhat surprised by that too oleanard..
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13:32 ashimema I'm kicking some butt here to get our guys doing mroe sign-off.. though I'm surprised it's that low.. I'm sure I've talked some of them through it at least a few times each.
13:33 ashimema s/oleanard/oleonard/g
13:35 jcamins oleonard: I see one signoff each from Martin and Colin in 3.12, and presumably they signed off on those patches without changing bugzilla.
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13:37 jcamins I think the statistics on the paste are off bz, though I could be mistaken.
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13:39 SlyzertVoltrond my internet is kinda bonkers today
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13:40 ashimema That might make sense.. either way we need to pull out weight more ;)
13:41 jcamins Joubu: around?
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13:42 jcamins SlyzertVoltrond: I think you need bip...
13:42 SlyzertVoltrond bip?
13:42 wahanui bip is pretty useful too :-)
13:42 jcamins It's an IRC bouncer, so that you can see if anyone messages you while you're offline.
13:42 jcamins 08:30 < oleonard> SlyzertVoltrond: What version are you using, and what are you trying to do?
13:43 jcamins Your connection is cutting out every minute or so.
13:43 oleonard ashimema: My comment was not meant to imply that I thought you guys were slacking, but that those stats are probably not counting some of your signoffs
13:44 SlyzertVoltrond i've already answer to that message, though
13:44 SlyzertVoltrond "3.14, trying to change opac koha logo to a custom one"
13:44 oleonard SlyzertVoltrond: That message didn't reach us
13:44 oleonard Sheesh.
13:45 jcamins I wasn't joking about the minute thing!
13:45 Joubu jcamins: yep
13:46 jcamins Joubu: I've thought over your e-mail, and I have answers.
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13:46 * oleonard can't complain about other people's work on Koha lately because he's been tied up in non Koha stuff for weeks
13:46 Joubu jcamins: great :)
13:46 oleonard SlyzertVoltrond: What OPAC theme?
13:46 jcamins I'd love to see C4::Linker extended to handle auth-auth links, but at the moment there is nothing that handles them.
13:47 jcamins I think the syspref idea is going in the wrong direction, though.
13:48 SlyzertVoltrond bootstrap
13:48 wahanui bootstrap is, like, running in a demo at http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz. It tracks, reasonably closely, the current master version of Koha
13:48 jcamins Any field with a thesaurus (5xx) is (or can be) linked to other authorities.
13:48 oleonard SlyzertVoltrond: Please paste your custom CSS at http://paste.koha-community.org/ or share a link to the OPAC you're working on
13:48 Joubu And it seems, C4::Linker should be improved a lot for doing that
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13:50 jcamins Yeah, that's why I didn't manage to include the improvement in any of my authority work.
13:50 Joubu I thought to create a new zebra index, but I don't like the idea.
13:55 jcamins I don't think you have an option.
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13:55 Joubu jcamins: so the solution would be to extend C4::Linker?
13:55 jcamins You're going to be creating a new Zebra index no matter what.
13:55 gaetan_B hello
13:55 jcamins That would be my recommendation, yeah.
13:56 Joubu jcamins: ok thanks. For the moment I park the problem at the bottom of my todo list.
13:57 Joubu jcamins: we have several (internal) scripts doing some stuff like that. Maybe I will use them in a first step
13:59 jcamins Okay, time to make some peanut butter pileups.
14:00 oleonard ...leading inevitably to an hours-long peanut butter gapers delay
14:00 jcamins oleonard: yup.
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14:10 * magnuse waves to tcohen
14:11 tcohen hi magnuse
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14:37 pastebot "SlyzertVoltrond" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "opacusercss" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/40
14:38 SlyzertVoltrond opacsmallimage also doesn't work
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14:40 SlyzertVoltrond oleonard: sorry it took me a while
14:40 cait i think someone else said that opacsmallimage was not working with the new bootstrap theme
14:41 oleonard It doesn't. The Bootstrap theme doesn't support it
14:41 SlyzertVoltrond oh, that's why
14:41 oleonard SlyzertVoltrond: That CSS was designed for the prog theme. The Bootstrap theme is completely different
14:42 oleonard SlyzertVoltrond: You might look at using the opacheader preference for embedding your logo
14:42 SlyzertVoltrond i have to use html?
14:44 oleonard Yes that's the best option with the Bootstrap theme since there is no fixed logo region
14:44 SlyzertVoltrond ok, i'll try to look into it
14:44 SlyzertVoltrond thanks for the help
14:49 gmcharlt oleonard: ACPL is not a multi-developer organization :)
14:49 oleonard You're telling me!
14:49 gmcharlt a distinction I was trying to allude to, but clearly didn't make well enough, is expectations for commercial firms
14:51 gmcharlt where I do think that participation in community patch review needs to be an expected part of the process
14:51 gmcharlt (and yes, accounted for in one's rates, of course)
14:55 tcohen can anyone qa bug 10905
14:55 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10905 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Author tracings incorrect when UseAuthoritiesForTracings is turned on
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15:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11417: make sure remove_unused_authorities.pl accepts --test <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]590c1471ad5d08ad8> / Bug 11279: (follow-up) remove unnecessary check on number of quotes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3b7ca3275cb0e6f58> / Bug 11279: Improve how a new quote of the day is selected <http://git.koha-c
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15:22 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11228: Improve hint on patron notification when adding/editing subscriptions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2e85e6f3d09aa873d>
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15:27 SlyzertVoltrond oleonard: btw, you should update your koha blog sometimes
15:27 oleonard Yes I should :)
15:27 SlyzertVoltrond i learned so much from it
15:28 SlyzertVoltrond thanks for sharing your expertise with others
15:29 oleonard Actually I have a Bootstrap post in progress but I keep getting pulled away by other things
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15:30 SlyzertVoltrond that would be very nice indeed hehe
16:13 reiveune bye
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16:26 gmcharlt quick -- everybody stop distracting oleonard!
16:27 oleonard Actually you guys are doing a pretty good job of that today ;)
16:27 jcamins gmcharlt: I guess I shouldn't tell him how delicious the peanut butter pileups look, then?
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16:31 oleonard Instagram that pileup!
16:31 gmcharlt jcamins: I am eating my breakfast now... and yet I want those cookies
16:36 * barton waves a box of star wars figure blasters in oleonard's face as a distraction.
16:36 * oleonard hisses "Precious!"
16:36 barton HA
16:37 jcamins gmcharlt: they're pefect for breakfast. Lots of protein.
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17:14 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11179: (follow-up) add comment to item-status.inc <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b4c1cb35bc4ea7baf> / Bug 11179: (follow-up) apply fix to Boostrap theme <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1582da92287fbbef2> / Bug 11179: make OPAC course details page display status of checked out items correctly <http://git.koha-
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17:17 cait hi #koha :)
17:23 rambutan hi cait
17:23 cait hi rambutan :)
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17:51 tcohen @later tell rangi will jenkins_koha be online again?
17:51 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
17:54 tcohen @later tell eythian can u tell me what can I improve on 10942 so it moves on?
17:54 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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18:17 drojf hi #koha
18:19 tcohen hi drojf
18:19 drojf hi tcohen
18:21 tcohen its been a while drojf
18:23 drojf true. how are you? how is kohacon planning going? :)
18:25 tcohen its fine, we are collecting hotel information
18:25 tcohen UNC has some agreements on the price with some in the city
18:25 drojf i so want to go
18:26 * magnuse too
18:26 tcohen :-D
18:26 drojf i'll bring mate softdrinks ;)
18:27 * cait too
18:27 tcohen university is currently almost closed so i'm trying to make things flow with my librarians colleages so we have all the info this week
18:27 tcohen i hope you all come
18:27 drojf i hope you have travel grants :P
18:28 tcohen heh, i'd like to
18:29 tcohen i picked the idea i heard in reno of inviting marshall b. to kohacon14
18:29 rambutan let us know if he accepts
18:30 tcohen he visited us in 2009 (i talked with him about Koha by then)
18:30 cait oh didn't know
18:30 tcohen we were starting our migration
18:31 tcohen we had just made our decision
18:43 jcamins Hm. I woner if Latah Library uses IE.
18:43 jcamins *wonder
18:46 oleonard Latah Library?
18:47 jcamins The bug report about enter submitting in the cataloging interface.
18:49 jcamins I seem to recall wizzyrea fixing it a while ago.
18:57 * magnuse wonders if eythian will have time to package 3.14.1 before he goes on holiday
18:59 * tcohen thinks of 3.12.8...
19:00 magnuse are there any non-public, record level notes in marc21?
19:01 jcamins magnuse: not private non-public.
19:02 magnuse okelydokely
19:03 jcamins magnuse: if you just need non-public non-public, you can use a 9xx field.
19:14 drojf what's the difference between private non-public and non-public non-public?
19:14 drojf i mean, how private can an entry in a marc record be? ^^
19:15 cait ?
19:15 jcamins drojf: in Koha it can't be.
19:15 cait brb
19:16 jcamins drojf: but if we filtered MARC records before outputting them to remove fields that were private, there could be truly private notes.
19:17 drojf private to whom? i mean, what would be the purpose? fields only visible on a "per staff member" basis? or for one special user?
19:17 drojf or just not at all?
19:17 jcamins Visible to staff only, is how I understood the question.
19:18 jcamins i.e. not accessible through the OPAC.
19:18 drojf oh. ok. i thought that was possible in koha
19:18 jcamins Not on a record level.
19:18 jcamins Not even on an item level, really.
19:18 drojf ah maybe it was item level. oh. then i wonder what i looked at
19:19 jcamins But, shh, we use security by obscurity to protct our secrets.
19:19 drojf that's how the big players do it! :P
19:20 jcamins Heh. Yeah, awesome. :P
19:20 drojf wouldn't just a tweak to the xslt do it?
19:21 jcamins No, that's just non-public non-public.
19:21 jcamins You can download the full record, with all "private" MARC fields.
19:21 drojf ah. now. yes, i did not think of that
19:22 jcamins Most people don't.
19:23 drojf oh no, all our secrets leaked /o\ :P
19:24 gmcharlt yes, one of the reasons why thinking of MARC as an interchange format is handy
19:24 gmcharlt i.e., if you don't want to interchange it... ;)
19:24 drojf heh
19:25 drojf we actually had nonpublic information that i did not want in the opac. information from the old system, for reference. i think it got dropped anyway in the end, but if somebody would have liked to download the records and read that, no problem. ;)
19:29 magnuse i totally agree that secrets should be kept in marc. in fact, i rather lean towards the opinion that MARC must die! ;-)
19:29 magnuse gah
19:29 magnuse s/should/should NOT/
19:29 jcamins magnuse: on the other hand, if you're going for secrecy by obfuscation, MARC may be the ideal format.
19:29 magnuse hehe, true!
19:30 magnuse and exchanging iso2709 records over z39.50? perfect obfuscation! ;-)
19:33 * cait waves
19:33 cait :)
19:34 cait ugh
19:34 drojf imagine walking through a real life MARC world. a huge labyrinth crowded with weird drawers and files, across hundreds of rooms. and you have to find that one piece of information
19:34 cait 217 new bug mails in my qa inbox
19:34 drojf no, better don't. ^^
19:35 drojf cait: oh, that sounds like fun
19:35 cait if you need fun... i know a patch that needs some attention from a gemran speaker...
19:39 * drojf hides
19:39 cait hmpf
19:39 * cait glares a little at drojf
19:51 rangi morning
19:53 cait morning rangi
19:54 magnuse kia ora rangi!
19:54 cait how is friday so far?
19:55 rangi https://twitter.com/ranginui/s[…]13739752761094144
19:58 cait cool :)
19:59 cait my plan to ask dcook about the days always fails because i get up too late... or he leaves work too early, not sure :)
20:00 magnuse wow, friday sounds pretty good :-)
20:01 cait my last work day before christmas holidays :)
20:02 magnuse have fun #koha!
20:02 cait bye magnuse :)
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20:22 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: fix typo
20:22 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update patron restriction info
20:22 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update restrictions further
20:22 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update restricted image in circ
20:22 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: remove 'flag' language from restrictions
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20:22 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add manage frequencies section
20:22 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard:  add number patterns section
20:22 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: link to new serials sections
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20:27 nengard so ..  i said this last week and was wrong ... but right now i do finally think i'm done with the 3.14 manual (at least as far as adding all the new stuff to it)
20:27 nengard If I don't find anything when I get back in 2014 I'll branch the manual then
20:49 gmcharlt nengard++
20:50 rangi right so ive figured out the error we have with zebra connection tracking
20:50 rangi what we do is, check if there is an errorcode
20:50 jcamins rangi++
20:50 rangi now, that error code gets set if the last action resulted in an error
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20:50 rangi so if the last action was ok
20:50 rangi but in the meantime the connection timed out
20:51 rangi we still think its ok
20:51 rangi because no error code
20:51 rangi then we try to use it, it doesnt work
20:51 rangi error code, next time we get a new connection
20:51 rangi so we get one failed search
20:51 rangi (under cgi we do a new connection every script run, so this never manifests)
20:52 rangi so im gonna change the code, to do a simple action, that would trigger an error if the connection has timed out
20:52 rangi then check the error code
20:52 drojf zebra ping?
20:53 cait rangi++
20:53 rangi yeah, i wish that existed in the ZOOM library
20:53 rangi but it doesnt
20:53 cait do they have a wish list we could put it on? :)
20:54 rangi naw
20:54 rangi cos they will just tell us we should be using yaz-proxy between koha and zebra
20:54 rangi cos it handles all that for us
20:54 rangi which is true
20:54 rangi but aint nobody got time for that today
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20:57 jcamins rangi: I guess $conn->check() didn't do it?
20:57 rangi naw that does the same thing
20:57 rangi checks if an error is pending
20:57 rangi Checks whether an error is pending on the connection, and throw a ZOOM::Exception object if so.
20:57 jcamins That's a bit of a useless method then, isn't it.
20:57 rangi it is
20:57 rangi unless you run right after an action
20:58 rangi ie do a ->scan
20:58 rangi check
20:58 rangi before trying to fetch the resultset
20:58 rangi bascially zebra/z3950/zoom
20:58 rangi all arent designed for persistent connections
20:59 rangi in theory we could just open a connection and destroy it each time
20:59 rangi thats what we do under cgi anyway
20:59 rangi but id prefer not to do that if i can find a cheap/quick way to test
20:59 jcamins I guess the question would be which is faster.
20:59 rangi maybe scan('a')
21:00 rangi or something
21:00 wahanui something is sketchy
21:00 rangi i dunno
21:01 rangi ill try some things
21:03 jcamins How do you trigger the bug consistently?
21:03 rangi run a bunch of searches
21:03 rangi then wait some longish period of time
21:03 rangi try again
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21:04 rangi sometimes it takes quite a while, but it needs to be on a system only you are using
21:04 rangi or other people keep connections active :)
21:05 gmcharlt rangi: random thought, may be worthless -- stick metaproxy in front of Zebra?
21:06 jcamins Right. I was probably just too impatient when I was trying to figure out this bug.
21:06 rangi yeah, yazproxy or metaproxy would work
21:06 rangi thats actually what indexdata suggest
21:06 rangi if you want connection pooling etc, yaz-proxy is the way to do it
21:07 rangi basically if we want plack
21:07 rangi we have to fix this in some way, and make it easily upgradable etc
21:08 rangi its easy for me to just whack up yaz-proxy on our servers, but to do it in an upstreamable way is a bit more difficult
21:11 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #268: STILL UNSTABLE in 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/268/
21:11 jenkins_koha * Jacek Ablewicz: Bug 9224: Make acqui/finishreceive.pl Plack-compatible
21:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11261: make sample serial numbering patterns mandatory during installation
21:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11261: make sample serial frequencies mandatory during installation
21:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11255: allow "relevance ascending" as a sort option
21:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11124: disallow trying to run the staff benchmark script as the DB account
21:11 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 11124: QA Follow-up resolving a warning and three typos
21:11 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 11124: QA Follow-up adding optional dependency HTTPD::Bench::ApacheBench
21:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9224 normal, P5 - low, ---, abl, Pushed to Master , acqui/finishreceive.pl is not Plack-compatible
21:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8230: Display acquisition details on the catalogue detail page
21:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8230: (follow-up) reflect the fact that order statuses are now alphabetic codes
21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8230: DBrev 3.15.00.005
21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8230: (follow-up) don't link to basket unless user has appropriate permissions
21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8230: (follow-up) fix detection of cancelled orders
21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8230: (follow-up) repair regression on order search
21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8230: (follow-up) update POD for C4::Acquisition::GetHistory
21:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10852: serials search improvements
21:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11261 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Sample frequencies and numbering patterns should better be mandatory on install
21:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11255 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , sort by relevance asc generates a wrong query
21:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10852: (follow-up) rename the "expiration date" filter name
21:11 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10852: (follow-up) switch from KohaAuthorisedValues to AuthorisedValues
21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10852: (follow-up) tweak wording of serials search form
21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10852: (follow-up) fix POD for C4::Serials::NewSubscription
21:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11124 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The staff benchmark script does not work with sql administrator account
21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10852: (follow-up) regression tests
21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10852: (follow-up) update the POD for C4::Serials::SearchSubscriptions
21:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8230 enhancement, P4, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Show the ordered status in catalogue page
21:11 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10626 - Remove doubled up TT plugins - Merge KohaBranchName and Branches
21:11 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10626: (follow-up) replace another use of KohaBranchName
21:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10852 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add 3 filters to the serials search
21:11 jenkins_koha * Frédéric Demians: Bug 11277: fix errors with search facet links in Bootstrap theme
21:11 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 7934: generate separate PO files for help pages
21:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10626 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Remove doubled up TT plugins
21:11 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11249: Add Db indexes on borrowers names
21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11249: DBRev 3.15.00.006
21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7518: regression test double-quote in search operand
21:11 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 7518: certain searches with quotation marks don't work
21:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11277 major, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Bootstrap theme: error in link for showing all facets
21:11 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9807 : Make it possible to view a basket group without reopening it
21:11 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9807: (follow-up) fix variable name
21:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7934 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Separate po file for help pages
21:11 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9807: (follow-up) reindent basketgroup.tt
21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 9807: (follow-up) quell warning if invoice price not set
21:11 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation update - split staff UI and help files
21:11 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9673 - Track when items are marked as lost or withdrawn
21:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9673: QA followup
21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 9673: DBRev 3.15.00.007
21:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11249 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Add db indexes on borrowers names
21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 9673: (follow-up) update DBIx::Class schema classes
21:11 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 11279: regression test for picking random quote
21:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7518 normal, P3, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , searches with quotation marks don't work
21:11 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 11279: Improve how a new quote of the day is selected
21:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11279: (follow-up) remove unnecessary check on number of quotes
21:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9807 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , There should be a way to show the content of a basketgroup without reopening it
21:11 jenkins_koha * Gaetan Boisson: Bug 11417: make sure remove_unused_authorities.pl accepts --test
21:11 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 11228: Improve hint on patron notification when adding/editing subscriptions
21:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9673 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Track when items are marked as lost or withdrawn
21:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11279 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Quote of the day feature won't pick a quote
21:11 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11179: make OPAC course details page display status of checked out items correctly
21:11 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11179: (follow-up) apply fix to Boostrap theme
21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11179: (follow-up) add comment to item-status.inc
21:11 rangi and thats what happens when a build gets stuck for 6 days
21:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11417 major, P5 - low, ---, gaetan.boisson, Pushed to Master , remove_unused_authorities.pl doesn't accept --test
21:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11228 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Explanation on 'patron notification' is not quite right
21:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11179 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , opac-course-details.pl shows item as available when it is checked out
21:17 jenkins_koha Starting build #269 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #264 9 days 0 hr ago)
21:18 jcamins What's been going on with jenkins that it hasn't been able to build?
21:19 rangi it was just hung on one of hte nodes, galens one .. because .. java
21:20 jcamins Ah. Right.
21:28 eythian hi
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21:29 eythian @later tcohen from memory, there isn't really anything that needs to be fixed up. If I find the time, I'll do some signoff on it.
21:29 huginn eythian: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
21:30 eythian @later tell tcohen from memory, there isn't really anything that needs to be fixed up. If I find the time, I'll do some signoff on it.
21:30 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
21:30 rangi @worldtime
21:30 huginn rangi: (worldtime <channel> <timezone> <format>) -- Displays time in spesificed timezone.
21:30 rangi @worldtime PST
21:30 huginn rangi: Error: I don't know about PST
21:31 rangi gmcharlt: you are in the same timezone as kgs eh?
21:31 rangi whats the time? :)
21:48 eythian @worldtime Pacific/Auckland
21:48 huginn eythian: Friday 20 December 2013 10:48
21:48 eythian @worldtime AEST
21:48 huginn eythian: Error: I don't know about AEST
21:48 eythian @worldtime NZDT
21:48 huginn eythian: Error: I don't know about NZDT
21:48 eythian @worldtime Antarctica/McMurdo
21:48 huginn eythian: Friday 20 December 2013 10:48
21:49 rangi ah ha
21:50 rangi @worldtime California/USA
21:50 huginn rangi: Error: I don't know about California/USA
21:50 rangi @worldtime California
21:50 huginn rangi: Error: I don't know about California
21:54 rambutan @worldtime pacific standard
21:54 huginn rambutan: Error: I don't know about pacific
21:54 rambutan @worldtime usa/mountain
21:54 huginn rambutan: Error: I don't know about usa/mountain
21:54 rambutan @worldtime us/mountain
21:54 huginn rambutan: Error: I don't know about us/mountain
21:54 rambutan man worldtime
21:55 rambutan @worldtime zulu
21:55 huginn rambutan: Error: I don't know about zulu
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22:02 eythian @worldtime US/Mountain
22:02 huginn eythian: Thursday 19 December 2013 15:02
22:02 eythian case sensitive
22:02 eythian @worldtime NZ
22:02 huginn eythian: Friday 20 December 2013 11:02
22:02 eythian @worldtime NZ-CHAT
22:02 huginn eythian: Friday 20 December 2013 11:47
22:03 eythian @worldtime posix/UTC
22:03 huginn eythian: Error: I don't know about posix/UTC
22:03 magnuse @worldtime Sacramento/America
22:03 huginn magnuse: Error: I don't know about Sacramento/America
22:04 magnuse @worldtime Los Angeles/America
22:04 huginn magnuse: Error: I don't know about Los
22:04 magnuse @worldtime Los_Angeles/America
22:04 huginn magnuse: Error: I don't know about Los_Angeles/America
22:04 magnuse gah
22:05 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #269: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/269/
22:06 eythian magnuse: that's not how timezones work
22:06 magnuse @worldtime Europe/Oslo
22:06 huginn magnuse: Thursday 19 December 2013 23:06
22:06 eythian @worldtime America/Los_Angeles
22:06 huginn eythian: Thursday 19 December 2013 14:06
22:07 eythian look in /usr/share/zoneinfo for hints :)
22:07 magnuse @worldtime America/Los Angeles
22:07 huginn magnuse: Error: I don't know about America/Los
22:07 magnuse gotcha
22:08 eythian @worldtime America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires
22:08 huginn eythian: Thursday 19 December 2013 19:08
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22:11 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
22:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1562: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1562/
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23:45 * mtompset whispers, "disturb now" multiple times. ;)
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