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francharb |
waited for the bus yesterday evening (45min), I thought I will lost my legs. |
| 00:00 |
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francharb |
;) |
| 00:00 |
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dcook |
-27 with windchill? Ouch.. |
| 00:00 |
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dcook |
Eeep. I'm glad you're ok, francharb! |
| 00:00 |
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francharb |
thanks! :) |
| 00:01 |
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dcook |
Growing up in Saskatchewan, I'm quite accustomed to feeling like I'm going to turn to ice |
| 00:01 |
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francharb |
but I could have wait in the dep' near the bus stop |
| 00:01 |
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dcook |
When I was a child, all the children would huddle together outside for warmth during recess and lunch |
| 00:01 |
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jcamins |
Okay, prefix characters are on page 8-1. |
| 00:01 |
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francharb |
I dont know why I didnt actually... |
| 00:01 |
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dcook |
You could've grabbed some beer :D |
| 00:01 |
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francharb |
haha |
| 00:02 |
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ebegin |
dcook, are you from Vancouver ? |
| 00:02 |
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dcook |
ebegin: I was born and raised in Saskatchewan, but I lived in Vancouver most recently for a few years before moving to Sydney, Australia |
| 00:02 |
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ebegin |
oh, saskatchewan, just read it |
| 00:03 |
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dcook |
I thought about moving to Montreal for my MLIS but Vancouver had the co-op program that got me my current job working on Koha |
| 00:04 |
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dcook |
Montreal would've been better for my French though ;) |
| 00:06 |
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dcook |
Ah, right, I was going to say, you provide services in both English and French, ebegin? |
| 00:07 |
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ebegin |
yes, both languages |
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jcamins |
Asterisk is 042. |
| 00:11 |
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jcamins |
Just FYI |
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| 00:32 |
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francharb |
diner time |
| 00:32 |
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francharb |
have a great day dcook |
| 00:33 |
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dcook |
You too, francharb. It was great catching up :) |
| 00:33 |
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dcook |
Don't freeze! |
| 00:33 |
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francharb |
have a good night jcamins |
| 00:33 |
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francharb |
dcook, thanks |
| 00:34 |
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francharb |
dcook, say hi to the summer! I miss him/her! ;) |
| 00:34 |
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ebegin |
bye everyone ! |
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| 00:43 |
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maximep |
@wunder cyqb |
| 00:43 |
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huginn |
maximep: The current temperature in Quebec, Quebec is -13.0°C (7:00 PM EST on December 17, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -22.0°C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa (Falling). |
| 00:44 |
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maximep |
oh, not that bad! |
| 00:45 |
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dcook |
Just a bit chilly ;) |
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| 00:58 |
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eythian |
wahanui: liblime koha is <reply>I think you mean fauxha, $who |
| 00:58 |
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wahanui |
...but liblime koha is based on an older version of Koha, but with a higher version number.... |
| 00:58 |
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eythian |
no wahanui, liblime koha is <reply>I think you mean fauxha, $who |
| 00:58 |
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wahanui |
okay, eythian. |
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mtompset |
@seen paul_p |
| 05:13 |
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huginn |
mtompset: paul_p was last seen in #koha 1 day, 12 hours, 48 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <paul_p> mtompset yes ? |
| 05:14 |
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mtompset |
@later tell paul_p 6874 is ready for the final sign off. Hopefully I didn't miss anything. :) |
| 05:14 |
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huginn |
mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
| 05:48 |
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dcook |
I love librarians with good ideas |
| 05:48 |
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dcook |
Just sayin' |
| 06:03 |
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mtompset |
dcook: What good idea? |
| 06:03 |
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dcook |
Setting up an RSS feed for the lists |
| 06:08 |
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mtompset |
Okay... 4 things to attempt to finish before end of year. Maybe. |
| 06:08 |
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mtompset |
liblime? |
| 06:08 |
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mtompset |
liblime koha? |
| 06:08 |
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wahanui |
I think you mean fauxha, mtompset |
| 06:08 |
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mtompset |
liblime koha? |
| 06:08 |
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wahanui |
I think you mean fauxha, mtompset |
| 06:08 |
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mtompset |
no randomness on that. I liked the other line too. |
| 06:09 |
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mtompset |
@wunder schomberg |
| 06:09 |
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huginn |
mtompset: The current temperature in Ebhausen, Ebhausen, Germany is 0.8°C (7:00 AM CET on December 18, 2013). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:09 |
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mtompset |
@wunder schomberg, ON |
| 06:09 |
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huginn |
mtompset: The current temperature in Ebhausen, Ebhausen, Germany is 0.8°C (7:00 AM CET on December 18, 2013). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:09 |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 06:09 |
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mtompset |
@wunder schomberg, ontario |
| 06:09 |
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huginn |
mtompset: The current temperature in Ebhausen, Ebhausen, Germany is 0.8°C (7:00 AM CET on December 18, 2013). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:09 |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 06:09 |
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mtompset |
@wunder l7e 5y5 |
| 06:09 |
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huginn |
mtompset: The current temperature in Richmond Hill, Richmond Hill, Ontario is -6.9°C (12:56 AM EST on December 18, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
| 06:10 |
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* mtompset |
shrugs. |
| 06:10 |
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mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha. |
| 06:25 |
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* dcook |
waves to cait |
| 06:26 |
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dcook |
Have a good day :) |
| 06:32 |
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cait |
:) |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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| 07:39 |
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reiveune |
hello |
| 07:39 |
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wahanui |
salut, reiveune |
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cait |
hi #koha |
| 08:19 |
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magnuse |
wb cait |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
| 08:20 |
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wahanui |
bonjour, gaetan_B |
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cait |
hi magnuse, gaetan_B, wahanui :) |
| 08:43 |
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wahanui |
cait: what? |
| 08:44 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
| 08:44 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (9:20 AM CET on December 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:44 |
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magnuse |
...and so dark! |
| 08:44 |
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cait |
same here :( |
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| 09:03 |
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magnuse |
hm... MARC::File::XML seems to dislike the § (Section sign) character, e.g. in 500a. anyone got an idea for how to deal with that? |
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nlegrand |
Hey #koha o/ |
| 09:53 |
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magnuse |
oh hooray for perl - 26 years today! |
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| 10:01 |
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Binu |
hello |
| 10:03 |
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Binu |
hello with whom can I ask a query on MAR21 import in Koha? Any experts our there? |
| 10:04 |
|
* Binu |
slaps BobB_ around a bit with a large fishbot |
| 10:31 |
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cait |
Binu: we don't slap around here - lots of poeple are constantly logged in, but BobB_ for example is in australia and it's really late for him |
| 10:32 |
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cait |
Binu: just ask your question, if someone knows they will answer |
| 10:33 |
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Binu |
so sorry for that. I was just checking the functionality. |
| 10:35 |
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cait |
np |
| 10:36 |
|
Binu |
Ques : While importing MARC records into a blank Koha database, I want Koha to check if there are duplicate records in the MARC file that I am importing so that duplicate records are clubbed together to a particular bibliography. |
| 10:38 |
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Binu |
for clarity duplicate records mean - one title with mutiple barcodes( i.e. more than one copy) |
| 10:40 |
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cait |
sorry phone |
| 10:42 |
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Binu |
what phone? do u want me to call u? |
| 10:43 |
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nlegrand |
Binu: I guess cait has a phone call and is unable to answer you right now :) |
| 10:44 |
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nlegrand |
(and so am I, because I'm new to Koha ^^) |
| 10:45 |
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Binu |
ok thanks nlegrand |
| 11:09 |
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cait |
reading back |
| 11:09 |
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cait |
ah too late |
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cait |
hi khall :) |
| 11:18 |
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khall |
mornin cait! |
| 11:20 |
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cait |
:) |
| 11:32 |
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cait |
gmcharlt++ |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
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tcohen |
is jenkins around? |
| 13:19 |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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tcohen |
@later tell jenkins_koha build Koha_3.12.x |
| 13:51 |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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oleonard |
Just realized I dreamed about finding git merge conflict markers in a live site. Do I get a nerd merit badge for that? |
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cait |
hehe yes |
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rambutan |
hola koha |
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ebegin |
a quick perl question : What means a -s in a condition like : if (exists $ENV{"KOHA_CONF"} and $ENV{'KOHA_CONF'} and -s $ENV{"KOHA_CONF"}) { |
| 15:09 |
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jcamins |
ebegin: file has nonzero size: http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/-X.html |
| 15:11 |
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ebegin |
thanks jcamins |
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ashimema_away |
hi all |
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rambutan |
hi ashimema |
| 15:19 |
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cait |
hi ashimema |
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tcohen |
hi ashimema |
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ashimema |
still qa'ing your bug tcohen.. gave me a good reason to finally get to grips with building packages ;) |
| 15:48 |
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tcohen |
heh |
| 15:48 |
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ashimema |
shame I've gotta fit it in around work ;) |
| 15:48 |
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tcohen |
fortunately it is documented how to do it! |
| 15:49 |
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ashimema |
indeed.. |
| 15:49 |
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ashimema |
Works nicely so far.. just bringing up a clean vm to install my freshly build package onto now.. |
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cait |
ashimema++ |
| 16:06 |
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oleonard |
opac-topissues.pl doesn't work at all the way I thought it did now that I look closely at the query it uses |
| 16:07 |
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oleonard |
"Top 50 of the most popular titles in the last 12 months" means most popular titles *added* in the last 12 months, not *circulated* in the last 12 months |
| 16:07 |
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cait |
huh?? |
| 16:07 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: really? Eww. |
| 16:07 |
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cait |
can you paste the sql? |
| 16:07 |
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cait |
just curious |
| 16:08 |
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cait |
but today nothing should surprise me |
| 16:08 |
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cait |
today-- |
| 16:09 |
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pastebot |
"oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "opac-topissues.pl query" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/35 |
| 16:20 |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: wow, and it's been like that from the beginning, it seems |
| 16:21 |
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gmcharlt |
issues.issuedate would match what you're expecting rather than bibio.datecreated |
| 16:23 |
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gmcharlt |
though I could see somebody wanting to include datecreated if they want the emphasis to be on newer titles and their patrons are still reading nothing but Harry Potter ;) |
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oleonard |
I wonder if it would make sense to add an "any" option to sql report runtime parameters? |
| 16:48 |
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paul_p |
@karma |
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huginn |
paul_p: Highest karma: "rangi" (962), "oleonard" (806), and "jcamins" (662). Lowest karma: "ie" (-125), "<!" (-116), and "failed" (-111). You (paul_p) are ranked 9 out of 2720. |
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ashimema |
@karma |
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huginn |
ashimema: Highest karma: "rangi" (962), "oleonard" (806), and "jcamins" (662). Lowest karma: "ie" (-125), "<!" (-116), and "failed" (-111). |
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tcohen |
@karma |
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huginn |
tcohen: Highest karma: "rangi" (962), "oleonard" (806), and "jcamins" (662). Lowest karma: "ie" (-125), "<!" (-116), and "failed" (-111). You (tcohen) are ranked 15 out of 2720. |
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oleonard |
@karma huginn |
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huginn |
oleonard: Karma for "huginn" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8. |
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oleonard |
@karma cookies |
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huginn |
oleonard: Karma for "cookies" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5. |
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ashimema |
lol |
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ashimema |
I hadn't seen the karma command before :$ |
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oleonard |
SQL Reports Library says "You have to put "%" in a text box to 'leave it blank'" Does that work? |
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oleonard |
As far as I can tell, if I want to use branch runtime parameters in an SQL report, I'll have to create a separate report to cover all branches. |
| 17:22 |
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cait |
? |
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cait |
oleonard: maybe i am late, but what is the problem? |
| 17:23 |
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cait |
ah, ok, no i get it I think |
| 17:23 |
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cait |
now |
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cait |
oleonard: you could create an authorized value.... with your branchcodes, branches and % and use like... but that would be a bitof a stretch |
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nengard |
oleonard: what people do is create another authorized value list with all the branches in it and then add an 'all branches' with the value equal to % |
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nengard |
i thought i had a blog post about that - but can't find it |
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reiveune |
bye |
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oleonard |
So, what cait said :) |
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oleonard |
cait++ |
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oleonard |
nengard++ |
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nengard |
http://bywatersolutions.com/20[…]-tip-in-koha-3-8/ |
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oleonard |
I still think it would be a nice idea to build in a blank option when using runtime parameters |
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nengard |
i agree |
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nengard |
and i want!!! |
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nengard |
for item types, collection codes, etc etc etc |
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nengard |
an 'all' option would be great |
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cait |
hm we'd need to be abit careful, it will only work if you use like |
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cait |
and depending on how people did their codes that coudl have some unwanted effects |
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oleonard |
cait: If we're modifying how the query is built by the script we wouldn't necessarily be required to use 'like' |
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cait |
hm |
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* oleonard |
speculates |
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cait |
i think it's not trivial to do that |
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cait |
right now it's a placeholer |
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cait |
then it woudl have to change the logic |
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cait |
and remove the clause |
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oleonard |
Welcome rocio1! (http://bywatersolutions.com/20[…]rations-support/) |
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magnuse |
welcome rocio_lunch! |
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drojf |
i am wondering about hosting koha for clients. are there ways of virtualization that have proven particularly useful (or the opposite) to run koha on a root server? |
| 18:58 |
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magnuse |
drojf: are you considering a physical server? |
| 18:58 |
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magnuse |
i have only good things to say about linode |
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magnuse |
gah |
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* magnuse |
wanders off |
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cait |
i think better use a server in germany |
| 18:58 |
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drojf |
with the nsa stuff… i suppose only german servers would work ^^ |
| 18:58 |
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cait |
less trouble |
| 18:59 |
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drojf |
yep |
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gmcharlt |
drojf: we use Xen quite successfully |
| 19:00 |
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cait |
drojf: do you want to run a big server yourself? or rent something in a data center? |
| 19:00 |
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jcamins |
drojf: Xen works pretty well, especially if someone else will manage it for you. |
| 19:00 |
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drojf |
cait: rent. neither place nor bandwidth here i am afraid |
| 19:01 |
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cait |
i got worried for a moment :) |
| 19:01 |
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drojf |
gmcharlt jcamins: i'm not sure if that would work with a rented root server but i'll check |
| 19:01 |
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cait |
i have heard good things about hetzner |
| 19:01 |
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drojf |
that is who i am thinking about |
| 19:01 |
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jcamins |
drojf: oh, probably not. On an individual server level, I just use multiple Koha instances. |
| 19:02 |
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drojf |
cait. but the vps are pretty low spec so i guess it would make more sense to get a root server (and i could also use it for other fun things) |
| 19:02 |
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drojf |
low spec as in, they have only single cpu vps i think |
| 19:02 |
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jcamins |
I'd suggest testing Debian/kFreeBSD, since that would give you Debian + jails. |
| 19:02 |
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jcamins |
And pf. |
| 19:03 |
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* jcamins |
is not a fan of iptables. |
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jcamins |
lxc is really nice, but the root user in lxc might have full root privileges on the host system, which is not so good. In my opinion. |
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drojf |
jcamins: i have read about lxc and it did not sound safe. and seems to have extra problems on debian 7 |
| 19:05 |
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drojf |
apart from that, it sounds very interesting |
| 19:05 |
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jcamins |
I use lxc for testing and development. |
| 19:06 |
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jcamins |
Much faster to do clean room package testing on an lxc container than on a separate VM. |
| 19:12 |
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drojf |
jcamins: yes i will have to play with it when i have more time. looks cool |
| 19:12 |
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jcamins |
You should just make the switch to Debian/kFreeBSD and play with jails. |
| 19:12 |
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drojf |
i was thinking about just using koha instances but i was not sure how that will work out if people want ssh access |
| 19:13 |
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* jcamins |
doesn't provide SSH access. |
| 19:14 |
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drojf |
i should probably neither |
| 19:14 |
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* jcamins |
doesn't want to support anyone who does things not through the Koha interface. |
| 19:14 |
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drojf |
good point ^^ i also do not feel like cleaning up after people with no idea but access :P |
| 19:15 |
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rambutan |
consider webmin access? |
| 19:15 |
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cait |
drojf: there is a way you can allow them to download their database anytime with packages |
| 19:15 |
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cait |
maybe a compromise? |
| 19:16 |
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drojf |
i have no idea if people would want access at all. i suppose that was my way of thinking. because i would want to have that :D |
| 19:17 |
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cait |
yeha, but you wouldn't go to a service provider ;) |
| 19:17 |
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jcamins |
drojf: my feeling is that if someone has a need for SSH access, they should run their own servers, and I will charge (higher) support fees accordingly. |
| 19:19 |
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jcamins |
Way higher chances of weirdness. |
| 19:19 |
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drojf |
good point. and i think those who actually asked me so far did so because they do not want to have to do any servery things. but i will have to bring that up if anything is going to happen with them at all |
| 19:22 |
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druthb |
Having (in my evil past) had customers who insisted on SSH access, I would start by *doubling* the support fee. Got to pay for the therapy you'll need when you see what they do to your poor innocent servers somehow. |
| 19:23 |
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druthb |
There is nothing good that can come of that. You can provide an SFTP location to download the tar-gzipped sql dumps, if they have a fetish about keeping a copy of their backups, but letting someone have shell access is just asking for a ticket to the loony bin. |
| 19:26 |
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druthb |
…and I'd hate to have to come to Germany to visit you in an asylum, drojf! |
| 19:27 |
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drojf |
druthb: thanks for pointing that out :D |
| 19:29 |
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talljoy |
o/ druthb |
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| 19:31 |
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cait |
drojf: she is serious |
| 19:31 |
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cait |
shemight actually be coming! |
| 19:32 |
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talljoy |
looks she may be on her way now. |
| 19:32 |
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druthb |
o/ talljoy |
| 19:32 |
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talljoy |
ah! |
| 19:32 |
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talljoy |
there she is! |
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druthb |
might-nothing. I *am* coming to Germany, in April. |
| 19:32 |
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cait |
hehe |
| 19:32 |
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* druthb |
hopes cait can pop over to see me! |
| 19:34 |
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* cait |
hopes too |
| 19:38 |
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talljoy |
Germany in April? mmmm...... |
| 19:38 |
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* talljoy |
checks her calendar |
| 19:38 |
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talljoy |
cait i had an opportunity to join a group in Stuttgart in May. Is that near you? or not? |
| 19:39 |
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cait |
it is close by yes :) |
| 19:39 |
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cait |
i studied in stuttgart, about 3 hours of a train ride and BSZ has hm a branch? in stuttgart |
| 19:40 |
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cait |
:) |
| 19:40 |
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talljoy |
i haven't decided to go or not. It is with the Library School here and they are visiting an International School in Stuttgart to work in the library. |
| 19:41 |
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talljoy |
a Koha library no less!! |
| 19:41 |
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cait |
aaah |
| 19:41 |
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cait |
i know them :) |
| 19:41 |
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cait |
have been there for a day once |
| 19:41 |
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cait |
it was interesting |
| 19:42 |
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druthb |
talljoy, has mashing too many Follett data sets made you funny in the head? You have to *think* about whether to go to Germany? |
| 19:42 |
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talljoy |
ha! |
| 19:42 |
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jcamins |
germs? |
| 19:42 |
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wahanui |
it has been said that germs is http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg |
| 19:42 |
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jcamins |
germs? |
| 19:42 |
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wahanui |
Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
| 19:42 |
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jcamins |
^^ possible reason not to go to Germany. Who wants to get sick? |
| 19:42 |
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talljoy |
the librarian there is Betty. And I spent some time at an International School in Kiev with her. |
| 19:42 |
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* druthb |
gives jcamins the stink eye. |
| 19:43 |
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druthb |
hush, you |
| 19:43 |
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cait |
i think i have met her |
| 19:43 |
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talljoy |
okay, duty calls ... phone time. |
| 19:43 |
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cait |
talljoy: and germany won't make you sick |
| 19:44 |
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cait |
talljoy: you should totally go :) |
| 19:45 |
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talljoy |
i am going to look into getting on the bandwagon with it. |
| 19:45 |
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* druthb |
thinks cait oughta give jcamins the ebil eye, too. |
| 19:51 |
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cait |
druthb: he is just influenced by eythian |
| 19:51 |
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cait |
germs? |
| 19:51 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... germs is http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg |
| 19:51 |
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cait |
germs? |
| 19:51 |
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wahanui |
Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
| 19:51 |
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cait |
druthb: not worth it ;) |
| 19:51 |
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druthb |
eythian is a bad influence, yes. |
| 19:58 |
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oleonard |
Bye #koha |
| 19:59 |
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rambutan |
can't believe the koha world is so full of world travelers |
| 19:59 |
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cait |
kohamakes us |
| 19:59 |
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rambutan |
"Yea, I studied Ada under the great professor Dr. Kurtz in Moscow and then a year with Dr. Richie in Kiev then took a year off and just sat around drinking wine with Dr. Wirth in Vienna" |
| 19:59 |
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cait |
if you have suddenly friends around theglobe... you got not so many options |
| 20:02 |
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rambutan |
Does anybody off hand know where Paengyongdo is? Those are the kind of places I've been. |
| 20:04 |
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jcamins |
Isn't that an island off South Korea? |
| 20:05 |
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rambutan |
North Korea more correctly, although it is a "UN controlled" (effectively South Korea) island |
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rangi |
gmcharlt: can you please zero out my karma? |
| 20:10 |
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* druthb |
boggles |
| 20:10 |
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cait |
gmcharlt: please can't you not listen to him and just move it somewhere else until that thread is thorugh? |
| 20:10 |
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cait |
can you.... |
| 20:10 |
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rangi |
no |
| 20:10 |
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druthb |
@most increased |
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huginn |
druthb: "rangi": 969, "oleonard": 811, "jcamins": 664, "gmcharlt": 570, "cait": 496, "wizzyrea": 473, "kf": 326, "chris_n": 316, "paul_p": 286, "magnuse": 279, "nengard": 256, "eythian": 254, "sekjal": 247, "druthb": 216, "tcohen": 195, "slef": 182, "bgkriegel": 143, "drojf": 133, "marcelr": 107, "fredericd": 99, "mtj": 85, "joubu": 72, "biblibre": 71, "hdl": 70, and "mveron": 68 |
| 20:10 |
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rangi |
if its gonna be used as a tool, instead of a pointless gimmick, id like to restart mine |
| 20:11 |
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rangi |
i think im allowed to do that |
| 20:11 |
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jcamins |
cait: "can't you" also works in that sentence. |
| 20:11 |
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cait |
sorry |
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| 20:12 |
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rangi |
NateC: you about? |
| 20:12 |
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rangi |
ahh nevermind i see you fixed the typo already :) |
| 20:12 |
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rangi |
welcome rocio :) |
| 20:13 |
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rocio |
thank you rangi! |
| 20:13 |
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cait |
welcome rocio! |
| 20:13 |
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rocio |
thanks cait! |
| 20:13 |
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druthb |
yeah, the Pronoun Police (me) told NateC about it earlier. :) |
| 20:13 |
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gmcharlt |
hi rocio |
| 20:14 |
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rocio |
hi there |
| 20:14 |
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wahanui |
hi, rocio |
| 20:14 |
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rangi |
rocio: have you been introduced to the bots? |
| 20:14 |
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gmcharlt |
@karma gmcharlt |
| 20:14 |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Karma for "gmcharlt" has been increased 0 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 0. |
| 20:15 |
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gmcharlt |
@karma rangi |
| 20:15 |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Karma for "rangi" has been increased 0 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 0. |
| 20:15 |
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rangi |
we have 3 main ones, wahanui, who is an info bot, huginn who is a supybot, and logbot who suprisingly logs things |
| 20:15 |
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rangi |
so you can do things like this |
| 20:15 |
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rocio |
yes! I'm not very good at remembering them though |
| 20:15 |
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rangi |
NateC? |
| 20:15 |
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wahanui |
I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE |
| 20:15 |
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rangi |
bag? |
| 20:15 |
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wahanui |
I LIKE BASEBALL |
| 20:15 |
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rangi |
be rangi |
| 20:15 |
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wahanui |
There's a bug for that |
| 20:15 |
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jcamins |
cookies? |
| 20:15 |
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wahanui |
Cookies are delicious delicacies |
| 20:15 |
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rangi |
or |
| 20:16 |
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druthb |
druthb? |
| 20:16 |
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wahanui |
Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would. |
| 20:16 |
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rocio |
hahahaha |
| 20:16 |
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gmcharlt |
ot |
| 20:16 |
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gmcharlt |
or |
| 20:16 |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
| 20:16 |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #37: "< nelsonf> I'm pretty sure I deleted this one in the name of being thorough..." (added by chris at 11:27 PM, October 04, 2009) |
| 20:16 |
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rangi |
@weather fort worth |
| 20:16 |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Riverside, Fort Worth, Texas is 21.1°C (2:10 PM CST on December 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:16 |
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rangi |
(you are near fort worth right?) |
| 20:16 |
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rocio |
yes I am! I am in Denton |
| 20:17 |
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talljoy |
talljoy? |
| 20:17 |
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wahanui |
I CRUNCH DATA or kicking butt at words with friends |
| 20:17 |
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talljoy |
nom nom nom |
| 20:17 |
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wizzyrea |
"words with people you used to be friends with" |
| 20:17 |
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talljoy |
HA! |
| 20:17 |
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cait |
lol |
| 20:18 |
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rangi |
rocio: huginn has some more practical uses too |
| 20:18 |
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rangi |
like |
| 20:18 |
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rangi |
bug 12345 |
| 20:18 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12345 was not found. |
| 20:18 |
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rangi |
bug 11000 |
| 20:18 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11000 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , koha-restore not working: Koha username error |
| 20:18 |
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rangi |
or |
| 20:18 |
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rangi |
@marc 100 |
| 20:18 |
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huginn |
rangi: A personal name used as a main entry in a bibliographic record. [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,j,k,l,n,p,q,t,u,4,6,8] |
| 20:18 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote get 123 |
| 20:18 |
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wahanui |
http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
| 20:18 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 20:18 |
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rocio |
omg that's definitely useful |
| 20:18 |
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talljoy |
^ best quote |
| 20:18 |
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rocio |
didn't know that could be done |
| 20:19 |
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* wizzyrea |
waves to rocio |
| 20:19 |
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wizzyrea |
wecome to the family |
| 20:19 |
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rocio |
thank you wizzyrea! |
| 20:21 |
|
cait |
and don't forget |
| 20:21 |
|
cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 20:21 |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 0.0°C (9:00 PM CET on December 18, 2013). Conditions: Heavy Fog. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1023 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:21 |
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cait |
weather reports :) |
| 20:21 |
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cait |
and |
| 20:22 |
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cait |
@later tell rocio welcome again! |
| 20:22 |
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huginn |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:22 |
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rocio |
that's one I keep forgetting! |
| 20:22 |
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rocio |
the later tell lol |
| 20:22 |
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rangi |
its very handy |
| 20:22 |
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rocio |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 20:22 |
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huginn |
rocio: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 0.0°C (9:00 PM CET on December 18, 2013). Conditions: Heavy Fog. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1023 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:22 |
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rocio |
hahahaha cool |
| 20:24 |
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| 20:24 |
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cait |
which means it's too cold here... brrr |
| 20:24 |
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cait |
:) |
| 20:26 |
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rangi |
hmm meeting in 35 mins, i probably should read up on what it's about |
| 20:26 |
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rangi |
rocio: have you seen the dashboad too? |
| 20:27 |
|
rangi |
http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ |
| 20:27 |
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wahanui |
http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ are the better stats to optimise |
| 20:27 |
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rangi |
oh wow 4 sign offs from joel |
| 20:27 |
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cait |
yep |
| 20:27 |
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cait |
been busy :) |
| 20:42 |
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rocio |
no I hadn't seen the dashboard rangi thank you for that |
| 20:42 |
|
* cait |
loves the dashboard |
| 20:46 |
|
* magnuse |
too |
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| 20:57 |
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magnuse |
oh look, bug 11004 is not a difficult signoff at all ;-) |
| 20:57 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11004 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Make xmlControlfield.js use the marcflavour syspref to look for XML files |
| 20:58 |
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magnuse |
Have fun #koha! |
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|
pastebot |
"gmcharlt" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Approximate size of releases by non-merge commit count" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/36 |
| 21:36 |
|
rangi |
exactly |
| 21:36 |
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rangi |
3.2 wasnt time based, ie thats over 2.5 years |
| 21:37 |
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rangi |
and 3.4 had a zillion tt commits |
| 21:37 |
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wizzyrea |
3.6 was lovely and stable |
| 21:37 |
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rangi |
otherwise 1k a every 6 months .. is very impressive |
| 21:37 |
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rangi |
gonna do a nice 2013 summary gmcharlt ? |
| 21:38 |
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gmcharlt |
yeah |
| 21:38 |
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gmcharlt |
I'm in a number-crunching mood |
| 21:38 |
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rangi |
cool |
| 21:38 |
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jcamins |
I think 3.6 was a slightly shorter release cycle, too, since the release month was changed. |
| 21:39 |
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jcamins |
Or was that later? |
| 21:39 |
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rangi |
that was later, 3.8 was a longer one (or 3.10) |
| 21:39 |
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rambutan |
anybody installing koha on btrfs yet? any libraries have exabyte size data? |
| 21:39 |
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rangi |
one was 7 months |
| 21:39 |
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jcamins |
Ah, right. |
| 21:39 |
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jcamins |
We moved *back* not forward. |
| 21:45 |
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eythian |
hi |
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rambutan |
hi eythian |
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| 22:40 |
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cait |
gmcharlt++ |
| 22:40 |
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cait |
so... anyone up to sign off my patches now? ;) |
| 22:41 |
|
dcook |
Maybe yes, maybe no :p |
| 22:41 |
|
dcook |
What are the patches? |
| 22:41 |
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wahanui |
the patches are on the bug |
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| 22:41 |
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gmcharlt |
which bug? |
| 22:41 |
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gmcharlt |
no |
| 22:41 |
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gmcharlt |
wait |
| 22:41 |
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gmcharlt |
SIGN OFF ALL THE BUGS! |
| 22:42 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 22:42 |
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cait |
dcook: you go to needs signoff and sort by assignee ;) |
| 22:42 |
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dcook |
:P |
| 22:42 |
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dcook |
In that case, probably not. Trying to figure out an acquisitions bug atm. |
| 22:44 |
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jcamins |
rangi: I think I submitted a patch for that. |
| 22:44 |
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cait |
bug 11279 |
| 22:44 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11279 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Quote of the day feature won't pick a quote |
| 22:44 |
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cait |
bug 11260 |
| 22:45 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11260 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Update German web installer |
| 22:45 |
|
jcamins |
Nope, not that one. |
| 22:45 |
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cait |
bug 11228 |
| 22:45 |
|
jcamins |
Not that one either. |
| 22:45 |
|
cait |
bug 11144 |
| 22:45 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11228 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Explanation on 'patron notification' is not quite right |
| 22:45 |
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cait |
bug 10907 |
| 22:45 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11144 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Switch order of overdues and fines cronjob for packages and in crontab.example |
| 22:45 |
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rangi |
ohh id love it if you had |
| 22:45 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10907 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Showing the staff members name who managed a suggestion should be optional |
| 22:45 |
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cait |
just helping dcook find my patches ;) |
| 22:45 |
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jcamins |
Maybe not. |
| 22:45 |
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jcamins |
Bug 8908 is where I reported it, but I don't see a patch. |
| 22:45 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8908 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Starman/Plack hangs when faced with zombie Zebra |
| 22:45 |
|
jcamins |
Hmm. |
| 22:45 |
|
jcamins |
I remember working on it. |
| 22:46 |
|
* cait |
shudders at the thought of a zombie zebra |
| 22:46 |
|
rangi |
any ideas would also be awesome |
| 22:47 |
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jcamins |
Let me see if I can figure out where the work is, because I know I spent time on it. |
| 22:49 |
|
rangi |
cool thanks |
| 22:56 |
|
rambutan |
creative subject line |
| 23:00 |
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dcook |
Oh ho...I think I might have an idea about this bug now.. |
| 23:01 |
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jcamins |
rangi: looks like I never got very far. |
| 23:01 |
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rangi |
ahh bummer |
| 23:02 |
|
rangi |
i was thinking of just trying to do a really simple thing, like change format or something |
| 23:02 |
|
rangi |
to test the connection was still valid |
| 23:02 |
|
rangi |
cos this |
| 23:02 |
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wahanui |
i heard cos this was publicly logged |
| 23:02 |
|
rangi |
if ( defined($context->{"Zconn"}->{$server}) && (0 == $context->{"Zconn"}->{$server}->errcode()) ) |
| 23:02 |
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jcamins |
I just have a bunch of debugging statements trying to track down where it hangs, but wasn't able to recreate the bug consistently enough to answer the question. |
| 23:02 |
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rangi |
isn't doing it |
| 23:02 |
|
rangi |
*nod* |
| 23:02 |
|
rangi |
k ill keep working on it |
| 23:04 |
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jcamins |
rangi: try $conn->check(). |
| 23:04 |
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dcook |
ModSuggestion, you little devil.. |
| 23:04 |
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rangi |
hmm does that actually exist? |
| 23:04 |
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jcamins |
Yeah. |
| 23:05 |
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jcamins |
Well, I think. |
| 23:05 |
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rangi |
just not documented? |
| 23:05 |
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rangi |
i can certainly try |
| 23:05 |
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jcamins |
It's in the POD. |
| 23:05 |
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jcamins |
http://search.cpan.org/~mirk/N[…]ib/ZOOM.pod#check() |
| 23:06 |
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rangi |
ah yep, we are acting asynchronously in this case |
| 23:06 |
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rangi |
cool ill give it a try |
| 23:06 |
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eythian |
rangi: you could kick the zebra server, that'd probably break the connection. |
| 23:07 |
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jcamins |
eythian: that didn't work for me. |
| 23:07 |
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jcamins |
I mean, it did work, and didn't trigger the bug. |
| 23:07 |
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eythian |
ah right |
| 23:10 |
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| 23:16 |
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dcook |
Why would there be a foreign constraint error on the prod system but not the dev system when using the same code and the same data... |
| 23:17 |
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jcamins |
dcook: because your dev system had an extra upgrade. |
| 23:17 |
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dcook |
Mmm |
| 23:17 |
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dcook |
Hmm |
| 23:18 |
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dcook |
Possibly but I don't see why it would |
| 23:18 |
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jcamins |
When did you copy the data from production to dev? |
| 23:18 |
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dcook |
15 minutes ago? |
| 23:19 |
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jcamins |
And you didn't go through the installer? |
| 23:19 |
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jcamins |
(for the upgrade) |
| 23:20 |
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gmcharlt |
are both prod and dev using innodb? |
| 23:20 |
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gmcharlt |
or did the dev system somehow end up using myisasm? |
| 23:21 |
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dcook |
Both should be innodb |
| 23:22 |
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dcook |
jcamins: The dev used to be higher but I did a restore with a lower DB |
| 23:22 |
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jcamins |
dcook: and you downgraded the code, too? |
| 23:22 |
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dcook |
Mind you, I think the restore only removed the tables and readded them. It didn't drop the database and start absolutely completely from scratch |
| 23:22 |
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dcook |
Downgraded the code? |
| 23:22 |
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jcamins |
Your code and database have to be in sync. |
| 23:23 |
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dcook |
Both systems are running the same code and (nearly) the same db |
| 23:23 |
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jcamins |
Okay. |
| 23:24 |
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dcook |
The prod system dies when it tries to send a letter to patron that doesn't exist anymore, whereas the dev system seems to just chug along |
| 23:25 |
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dcook |
foreign_key_checks are on in the global mysql variables as well so I'm surprised no error comes up |
| 23:25 |
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dcook |
Unless... |
| 23:25 |
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wahanui |
it has been said that unless is probably meant to give code that reads more like natural language? but i'm not a fan either |
| 23:25 |
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* dcook |
tries another thing |
| 23:25 |
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jcamins |
You are missing a table on the production system? |
| 23:26 |
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eythian |
dcook: you have a problem with the letter table |
| 23:26 |
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eythian |
I don't know what it is, but that table screws up a lot |
| 23:26 |
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eythian |
I think deleting everything before you load is the way to go |
| 23:26 |
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eythian |
I have a script to do that. |
| 23:27 |
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dcook |
It's the message_queue table (I should've mentioned that) |
| 23:27 |
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dcook |
It does have a foreign key pointing back to the borrowers table |
| 23:28 |
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eythian |
ah, I've seen weird things happen with the letter table. |
| 23:29 |
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dcook |
I'm wondering if the indexes aren't there... |
| 23:30 |
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gmcharlt |
dcook: could you paste the output of 'show create table message_queue;' from both dev and production? |
| 23:30 |
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jcamins |
dcook: I suggest getting the CREATE TABLE command for each table, and diffing them. |
| 23:32 |
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dcook |
Hmm, they're identical |
| 23:33 |
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jcamins |
Compare other tables. |
| 23:33 |
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* jcamins |
would compare all the tables. |
| 23:33 |
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pastebot |
"dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "message_queue create" (43 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/37 |
| 23:33 |
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jcamins |
mysqldump --no-data |
| 23:36 |
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gmcharlt |
dcook: another thing to check -- start a new mysql session, then do SELECT @@FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS; |
| 23:37 |
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dcook |
jcamins: Dev has a few more tables that didn't get dropped when I downgraded but I can't imagine them getting in the way |
| 23:37 |
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jcamins |
dcook: message_transport_type? |
| 23:37 |
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wahanui |
message_transport_type is, like, print. I would like email |
| 23:38 |
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dcook |
gmcharlt: Still says 1 :/ |
| 23:41 |
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gmcharlt |
hmm |
| 23:41 |
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gmcharlt |
could you paste the exact error message? |
| 23:41 |
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dcook |
gmcharlt: Just about to :) |
| 23:41 |
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pastebot |
"dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "error message" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/39 |
| 23:43 |
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dcook |
I'm going to drop the dev db and try this again |
| 23:46 |
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dcook |
Dang...still no error... |
| 23:47 |
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gmcharlt |
dcook: select count(*) from suggestions where suggestedby is not null and suggestedby not in (select borrowernumber from borrowers); |
| 23:47 |
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* gmcharlt |
would be willing to get that the order in question has a suggested where suggestedby = 0 |
| 23:47 |
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dcook |
4 |
| 23:47 |
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gmcharlt |
or refers to a borrower that got deleted after making the suggestion |
| 23:48 |
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dcook |
I checked the suggestion earlier and it had a borrowernumber which had already been deleted from borrowers |
| 23:48 |
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dcook |
Yeah, the latter |
| 23:49 |
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dcook |
Hmm... |
| 23:49 |
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dcook |
No entry got made in the dev system |
| 23:50 |
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dcook |
I imagine that it returned a warning rather than an error and that warning isn't captured |
| 23:51 |
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dcook |
{'RaiseError' => $ENV{DEBUG}?1:0 }) |
| 23:51 |
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dcook |
I bet the prod system has that environmental variable set and the dev system doesn't |
| 23:51 |
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dcook |
Which is interesting.. |
| 23:52 |
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gmcharlt |
the apache log in prod would be quite verbose if it were set |
| 23:53 |
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dcook |
I've often thought it was rather verbose (although not always as much as I would like) |
| 23:53 |
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dcook |
Should find out in about 40 seconds |
| 23:53 |
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eythian |
it's far too verbose at the moment. |
| 23:53 |
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eythian |
mostly with meaningless warnings |
| 23:53 |
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dcook |
Yeah, the meaningless warnings suck, that's true |
| 23:54 |
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dcook |
Yep, that was it |
| 23:54 |
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dcook |
Set on prod but not on dev |
| 23:55 |
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dcook |
Apache config is the only thing that would've been different |
| 23:55 |
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eythian |
hmm. So if debug is not set, you get things failing mostly silently to the user? That's not ideal. |
| 23:56 |
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dcook |
eythian: Agreed |
| 23:56 |
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dcook |
I think I ran into this same thing elsewhere a few months ago |
