IRC log for #koha, 2013-10-18

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00:03 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #157: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/157/
00:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10535: (follow-up) add test case
00:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10535: (follow-up) wrap Budgets.t in transaction
00:03 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10535 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , by default sort funds by name
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00:24 mtompset @later tell tcohen I like your bug report, but I don't like your patch for bug 11077. See my comment.
00:24 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
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00:42 dpk I am looking at the signed-off bugs to find things I can QA.  What does it mean when the bug has a QA assignment of Testopia?
00:43 dpk Ditto if its assigned to "Bugs List"
00:44 mtompset Good questions. I don't know.
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00:44 tcohen mtompset: you're right
00:45 mtompset Though... I did make a mistake.
00:45 mtompset instead of q{}... it should be 'None'.
00:45 mtompset That was supposed to be the default value added by installers/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl
00:45 dpk If we want more people to QA, we need better instructions in the Wiki for potential QAers.  I think there is a lot of unwritten knowledge here.
00:46 mtompset I would agree with that assessment, dpk.
00:46 mtompset But I thought QA folk were assigned to their roles.
00:46 mtompset I'm not familiar with who all are the QA folk. Are you?
00:47 mtompset (double meaning unintentionally intended after some thought)
00:47 tcohen there's a QA manager, and former RM are part of the team, along with elected members
00:47 mtompset QA?
00:47 wahanui QA is probably Quality Assurance?
00:47 mtompset qa team?
00:47 wahanui qa team is required
00:47 mtompset wahanui: You are so helpful at times.
00:47 wahanui ...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow.|a little bit creepy.|right sometimes|a strange duck...
00:48 dpk my understanding is that they are keen to have more, and its a bit of quid-pro-quo that you help QA stuff if you want your stuff QA'd promptly.  I suspect it also makes you appreciate good bug and fix submission and will do a better job yourself when you have been on the receiving end.
00:48 tcohen QA is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Assurance_Testing
00:48 eythian dpk: you're thinking signoff
00:48 mtompset Yes, most definitely sign off.
00:48 mtompset I've started doing more. YAY!
00:50 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #158: FAILURE in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/158/
00:50 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10380: Change prototype for output_pref() routine
00:50 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10380: (follow-up) update some uses of output_pref()
00:50 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10380: (follow-up) update two more uses of output_pref()
00:50 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10380: (follow-up) update POD to fully reflect change to output_pref()
00:50 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10380 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , output_pref should use a hashref for parameters
00:51 tcohen dpk?
00:51 wahanui dpk is looking at the signed-off bugs to find things I can QA.  What does it mean when the bug has a QA assignment of Testopia?
00:52 dpk here
00:52 mtompset tcohen: Why did you fix the indentation of the userid line? That's not part of the bug.
00:53 tcohen we are allowed to do it as long as it is part of the function we are touching
00:54 mtompset Also... why are you using // instead of ||?
00:54 mtompset It's harder to read, for me at least.
00:54 eythian it means a different thing
00:54 mtompset Okay... what is the difference?
00:54 wahanui hmmm... the difference is with the package the upgrade is more-or-less foolproof.
00:55 eythian || tests for truth, // tests for defined.
00:55 tcohen http://galencharlton.com/blog/[…]rl-5-10-and-koha/
00:55 eythian So things that are defined but false will have different results.
00:55 tcohen i followed galen's advice
00:55 mtompset Ah.
00:55 mtompset So, if ...
00:56 mtompset $foo = '';
00:56 eythian yeah
00:56 mtompset $bar = 'blah';
00:56 mtompset my $var = $foo // $bar;
00:56 mtompset print $var;
00:56 mtompset would show '';
00:56 eythian yes
00:57 mtompset whereas my $var = $foo || $bar; would show 'blah';
00:57 eythian yeah
00:58 mtompset Okay... now I need to read the C4::Context->preference('foobar') code.
01:00 mtompset Mmmm.... okay... // works, but it should be // 'None', not // '' -- Because the choices are limited to 'None','Common Name', or 'emailAddress'.
01:01 eythian maybe '' pulls the default?
01:02 tcohen i'm not sure mtompset
01:02 mtompset No, because the updatedatabase.pl puts 'None' in the field by default.
01:02 tcohen yo might need to write a unit test and see if it is worth filling a new bug maybe?
01:03 mtompset So the case that somehow the system preference wasn't added... it should be 'None'.
01:04 mtompset If it was added, then it should be one of the three expected values.
01:04 mtompset If it isn't one of the three expected values, then we have some really bizarre scenario.
01:05 mtompset tcohen: Delete your AllowPKIAuth system preference and try logging in... with '', I think it may fail.
01:06 mtompset change it to 'None', and it should work.
01:06 wahanui mtompset: that doesn't look right
01:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1451: SUCCESS in 1 hr 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1451/
01:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10535: (follow-up) add test case
01:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10535: (follow-up) wrap Budgets.t in transaction
01:07 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10535 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , by default sort funds by name
01:08 jenkins_koha Starting build #1452 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:42 dpk What is the name of the script to make a debian package based install work with you git tree?  (citify?)
01:43 dpk s/citify/gitify/
01:44 eythian gitify
01:44 eythian wahanui: gitify
01:44 wahanui gitify is, like, at https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify
01:46 dpk wahanui:Thanks!
01:46 wahanui no worries dpk
02:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1452: FAILURE in 1 hr 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1452/
02:56 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10380: Change prototype for output_pref() routine
02:56 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10380: (follow-up) update some uses of output_pref()
02:56 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10380: (follow-up) update two more uses of output_pref()
02:56 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10380: (follow-up) update POD to fully reflect change to output_pref()
02:56 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10380 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , output_pref should use a hashref for parameters
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04:06 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
04:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #159 for job master_maria (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #157 5 hr 15 min ago)
04:38 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10380: (follow-up) remove inadvertant database dependency for t/DateUtils.t <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0dc9f83cdb39290fc>
04:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1453: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1453/
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04:50 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10038: (follow-up) fix tabs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]54f18ddf5bca2727a> / Bug 10038: fix doubled 'default' entry when creating a new authority type <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9349ab28943011c42>
05:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10850 - give quick spine label template page its own ID <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]67823da4d62d9a537>
05:18 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
05:18 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #159: FIXED in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/159/
05:18 jenkins_koha Galen Charlton: Bug 10380: (follow-up) remove inadvertant database dependency for t/DateUtils.t
05:18 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10380 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , output_pref should use a hashref for parameters
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06:08 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #160: SUCCESS in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/160/
06:08 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10038: fix doubled 'default' entry when creating a new authority type
06:08 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10038: (follow-up) fix tabs
06:08 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10850 - give quick spine label template page its own ID
06:08 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10038 trivial, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Doubled 'default' entry when creating a new authority type
06:08 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10850 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Give Quick spine label template page its own id
06:12 * magnuse waves
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06:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10843: fix crash that can occur when confirming hold if ReservesMaxPickUpDelay... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2e21f66efc3810f4e>
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06:31 magnuse ¡hola tcohen!
06:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #161 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
06:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1454: NOW UNSTABLE in 1 hr 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1454/
06:32 jenkins_koha Galen Charlton: Bug 10380: (follow-up) remove inadvertant database dependency for t/DateUtils.t
06:32 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10380 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , output_pref should use a hashref for parameters
06:33 jenkins_koha Starting build #1455 for job Koha_master (previous build: NOW UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 7 hr 13 min ago)
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06:38 reiveune hello
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06:54 clrh hello
07:00 magnuse hiya reiveune and clrh
07:01 clrh yop magnuse
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07:05 magnuse clrh: are you just back at work, or did i just not see you ?
07:05 clrh I am back for 3 weeks
07:05 clrh (at work)
07:05 magnuse ah, cool
07:06 clrh I am just impolite to not saying hello here ;)
07:06 magnuse hehe
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07:10 samueld hi everybody
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07:20 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #161: SUCCESS in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/161/
07:20 jenkins_koha Jonathan Druart: Bug 10843: fix crash that can occur when confirming hold if ReservesMaxPickUpDelay is undefined
07:20 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10843 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , print a slip can cause an error
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07:30 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8368: (follow-up) restore use of quoted printable for message body <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]386a2463a9c113d73> / Bug 8368: (follow-up) port change to the Bootstrap OPAC; restore ISBN display <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3ed4aed625c7e52b4> / Bug 8368: fix email lists from OPAC when using non-English t
07:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #162 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
08:19 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #162: SUCCESS in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/162/
08:19 jenkins_koha * Frédéric Demians: Bug 8368: fix email lists from OPAC when using non-English templates
08:19 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8368: (follow-up) port change to the Bootstrap OPAC; restore ISBN display
08:19 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8368: (follow-up) restore use of quoted printable for message body
08:19 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8368 critical, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , List email broken for non english templates
08:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1455: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1455/
08:23 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10038: fix doubled 'default' entry when creating a new authority type
08:23 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10038: (follow-up) fix tabs
08:23 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10850 - give quick spine label template page its own ID
08:23 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10843: fix crash that can occur when confirming hold if ReservesMaxPickUpDelay is undefined
08:23 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10038 trivial, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Doubled 'default' entry when creating a new authority type
08:23 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10850 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Give Quick spine label template page its own id
08:23 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10843 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , print a slip can cause an error
08:24 jenkins_koha Starting build #1456 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 9 hr 4 min ago)
08:36 magnuse gmcharlt++ for late night, post-conference patch-pushing
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09:04 Abrar Hello
09:04 Abrar I am new to Koha
09:05 Abrar I am planning to Implement Koha in my school please guide me how can I start?
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10:08 jenkins_koha * Frédéric Demians: Bug 8368: fix email lists from OPAC when using non-English templates
10:08 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8368: (follow-up) port change to the Bootstrap OPAC; restore ISBN display
10:08 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8368: (follow-up) restore use of quoted printable for message body
10:08 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8368 critical, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , List email broken for non english templates
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14:07 gmcharlt good morning
14:09 jcamins Good morning.
14:09 ebegin morning all
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14:12 jcamins gmcharlt: do you know if there any group breakfast plans?
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14:17 jcamins Good morning oleonard.
14:18 oleonard hi
14:18 wahanui bonjour, oleonard
14:18 ebegin wahanui, since when you speak french ? :)
14:18 wahanui ebegin: excuse me?
14:18 ebegin hehe :)
14:20 ebegin wahanui, how's kohacon ?
14:20 wahanui i haven't a clue, ebegin
14:24 oleonard Poor wahanui, not even a mention in the keynote
14:29 * oleonard proposes a "Know Your Bots" lightning talk
14:29 gmcharlt oleonard: that's an excellent idea
14:30 gmcharlt jcamins: there typically has been a group meeting on the ground floor next to the elevator back immediately next to the hotel registration desk ... at 8
14:31 jcamins gmcharlt: thanks.
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16:01 reiveune bye
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16:11 Shane-S Question is the main top search box supposed to disappear on the advanced search screen?
16:11 oleonard Yes
16:11 jcamins Shane-S: yes.
16:12 Shane-S okay, it just looks weird without it, just wanted to ask :)
16:12 oleonard because otherwise it is redundant and potentially confusing
16:12 jcamins It would be redundant, and it might be confusing about which button to click.
16:12 druthb LOL
16:13 jcamins Argh! Lag!
16:13 jcamins Sorry, I didn't mean to demonstrate redundant.
16:13 druthb puh.  blame it on lag, and maybe someone will believe you.
16:13 druthb Or maybe not.
16:13 Shane-S perhaps we could "disable" (grey it out) and remove the go button, and populate with text "Please use below search boxes"?
16:14 Shane-S I can try and work on that if you think it a good idea :P
16:15 * oleonard thinks it's fine the way it is
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16:15 * jcamins defers to oleonard.
16:16 * Shane-S will leave it as it is then :)
16:17 Shane-S ROFL whes.npelem.com find the link on the horse to go home....so not intentional...i need to fix that
16:22 Shane-S hmm why is this (height: 0px !important;) on the h1#libraryname a CSS from opac.css, I can't adjust the height, or are you utilizing the padding value for height?
16:23 oleonard That is an image replacement technique. Give 0px height to the actual text, and show a background image in its place
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16:23 Shane-S oh okay, got it, forgot about the hidden text
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16:28 gaetan_B bye !
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16:38 * cait waves
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16:46 nengard can someone in the back close the door again?
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16:47 rangi well that went better than yesterday
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16:47 gmcharlt rangi++
16:47 Darson hi all
16:47 Darson i am new user in koha
16:47 Darson and i need someone to help me
16:48 Darson i have some questions
16:48 Darson any one can help?
16:48 rambuten welcome Darson, some of the people logged on are in a meeting, but ask your question
16:48 rambuten and if someone is available they may try to answer
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16:49 Darson how we can arrange the marc fields in a specific way during the cataloging process and keep this format after exporting marc records, for example:   1001_ |6 880-01 |a Farīd, Hishām Muḥammad. 8801_ |6 100-01/(3/r |a فريد، هشام محمد. 24513 |6 880-02 |a al-Ḥimāyah al-jināʼīyah li-ḥaqq al-insān fī ṣūratih / |c Hishām Farīd. 88012 |6 245-02/(3/r |a الحماية الجنائية لحق الانسان في صورت
16:50 Darson Note that the marc field 880 comes after field 100 , marc field 246 and marc field 260, we tried many times to create this format through “MARC frameworks” but it does not work.
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16:51 jcamins Darson: that can't be done in Koha's cataloging module at present.
16:51 gmcharlt Darson: at the moment, using Koha's MARC editor, inteleaving the 880 and other fields like that isn't really possible
16:51 gmcharlt however, at least for display in Koha, they don't have to be interleaved for it be displayed and indexed correctly
16:51 rangi 9
16:52 cait 9? :)
16:52 rangi heh
16:52 rangi typo
16:52 gmcharlt Darson: there is another option as a workaround
16:52 Darson great tell me please
16:52 gmcharlt the MarcEdit tool has a way to save records into a Koha database
16:52 gmcharlt so you could use that to edit your records
16:52 gmcharlt and keep the tag order if you need it that way for export
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16:53 gmcharlt not my preferred option, since MarcEdit isn't really free software
16:53 gmcharlt also, in the future -- in about 8 months or so there an upcoming version of Koha will have an alternative MARC editor that will almost certainly keep your field order the way you want
16:53 gmcharlt i.e., the release next May
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16:56 Darson any way, can you please send me how i can rearrange my marc fields through marcEdit ? my email is darson_meno@yahoo.com
16:56 cait Darson: what is your goal when rearranging?
16:56 oleonard Darson, I don't think anyone is going to email you instructions. You can search the web for MarcEdit and find documentation
16:56 cait making it more readable when exported?
16:58 Darson the goal is putting related marc fields togother
16:58 gmcharlt Darson: here's a presentation about the integration - http://blog.reeset.net/archives/1119
16:58 cait Darson: i think Koha won't care about the sequence
16:58 gmcharlt (also, as a general note, subfield $6 allows the related fields to refer to each other without requiring that the 880 follow the main field it provides a transliteration for)
17:01 Darson so , is marcEdit can arrange the fields based on $6 ?
17:02 gmcharlt it's more that if you arrange the fields in the order you want, it won't change it on you
17:03 Darson i can keep them in an external file
17:04 gmcharlt yes, and use MarcEdit as the way to manage the MARC records in your Koha system
17:04 Darson ok, how i can rearange the marc fields
17:06 gmcharlt using MarcEdit, it would be manually editing each record, although one might be able to write a macro to rearrange the fields automatically
17:07 gmcharlt (or write a Perl script or the like to rearrange the fields after the records are exported from Koha)
17:08 Darson where could i find these scripts?
17:10 gmcharlt Darson: probably nothing prewritten -- somebody would have to write one
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17:11 Darson it's ok, @gmcharlt , how i can update koha version , i am using koha 3.10
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17:12 gmcharlt Darson: depends on how you installed it -- if you installed from Debian packges, could be as simple as running an 'apt-get upgrade'
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17:13 gmcharlt if installed in a different way, there are upgrade instructions on the Koha wiki
17:15 Darson ok , if i have many branches, how i can prevent the the catalogers of a specific branch to not edit the records/items of the other branch ?
17:19 gmcharlt Darson: there's a setting called IndependentBranches that can restrict this, although it has broader consequences of restricting circulation between libraries
17:20 Darson i tried this , but it does not work
17:21 Darson the cataloger can edit some records available at another branches
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17:26 Darson ?
17:28 gmcharlt Darson: might worth reporting a bug, then
17:28 Darson to who?
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17:29 ebegin Darson, I may be wrong, but I think records can be updated by everybody, items shouldn't
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17:31 Darson anyway, for technical support , can you give me the email or the site ?
17:32 oleonard http://koha-community.org/support/
17:32 oleonard Manual: http://koha-community.org/documentation/
17:32 ebegin bugs.koha-community.org should be where you add a new bug ** if it doesn't exists **
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17:33 oleonard Bug reporting: http://bugs.koha-community.org
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17:41 Darson i have another question
17:42 Darson if i want to export a specific marc records from koha , based on marc field 001
17:42 ebegin IRC is also a good place to ask question. This week is more quiet that usual because of the Koha Conference
17:42 wahanui okay, ebegin.
17:42 Darson how i could do this ?
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17:46 druthb Darson, if you only want one record, and know its' biblionumber, you can kind of brute-force it with SQL: SELECT marc FROM biblioitems WHERE biblionumber = ?;  That's good for a quick-and-dirty, and then you can manipulate the record programmatically, if that's your desire.
17:48 Darson it's not quarry
17:49 Darson i need to export a batch of records that i have their marc field 001 as a list
17:49 ebegin Darson, this can not be achieve using the interface. However, a script could be easily implement this.
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17:50 Darson where could i find this script ?
17:51 oleonard You could write this script, or you could hire someone to write it for you
17:56 druthb drnoe++
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18:00 jcamins coding guidelines?
18:00 wahanui coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines
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18:12 rambuten checkout
18:12 wahanui checkout is probably better in this case.
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18:39 rangi my main fear was that it would head towards governance, but i think it was a great starter anyway
18:39 ebegin too bad Darson is gone, i'm testing its script to extract records from 001 ;)
18:42 cait was good :)
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18:48 rangi druthb is owning this
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18:49 dcook true that, rangi
18:49 dcook druthb++
18:50 gmcharlt druthb++
18:53 dcook "You change it to Arabic and you get a hot mess"
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18:56 oleonard I'd like to see one of those YAML files
18:57 oleonard I like the idea of the key being the English string, that's unlike other systems I've seen (although not recently)
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18:57 rangi yep
18:59 gmcharlt oleonard: well, that's actually roughly what the PO systems does
18:59 gmcharlt use the base English text as the key, effectively
19:01 jcamins oleonard: what I do is split the difference: use a key that isn't the string when it makes sense (for example, if the string is locale-specific, but then make the key the string when it's just a translation.
19:02 gmcharlt ineed
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19:03 gmcharlt e.g., imagine index definitions
19:03 gmcharlt 'title' might be a good natural key for an index def
19:03 rangi yep
19:04 gmcharlt and could be the index to pick the desired translated label
19:04 rangi druthb just made my point
19:05 rangi by not naming the one everyone hates
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19:09 rangi bgkriegel++
19:09 JesseM bgkriegel++
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19:16 Shane-S anyone know where the green outline on the search box in the staff CP comes from?
19:16 Shane-S CSS wise that is, I don't see anything in chrome element inspector about focus, or selected for a form or input
19:18 dcook Sorry, Shane-S. Not sure off the top of my head and just about to head out for lunch.
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19:23 saa i installed koha from ubuntu packages. i am getting an error when i try to carry out search in either opac or intranet opac-search.pl: Use of uninitialized value $_ in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-search.pl line 39
19:23 saa hw to sort out this error
19:28 Shane-S !paste
19:28 Shane-S !pastebin
19:28 Shane-S *sigh*
19:28 Shane-S paste?
19:28 wahanui paste is, like, found at http://paste.koha-community.org
19:29 saa i installed koha from ubuntu packages. i am getting an error when i try to carry out search in either opac or intranet opac-search.pl: Use of uninitialized value $_ in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-search.pl line 39
19:29 wahanui i already had it that way, saa.
19:30 saa sorry id did not get
19:31 pastebot "Shane-S" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Rounded and Glowing inputs" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/247
19:31 Shane-S ^ that fixed my issue, but also made ALL the input boxes look awesome IMO!
19:35 Shane-S saa what version?  More > About Koha from staff CP
19:35 saa 3.12.05
19:36 saa installed from packages koha-common
19:36 Shane-S okay and the perl version listed on that page?
19:38 saa 5.014
19:38 Shane-S 5.014 or 5.014002?
19:38 wahanui 5
19:39 saa 5.014002
19:40 Shane-S saa: then I can't help, I was hoping it would be an apt-get update or module of perl update, but your versions match mine
19:40 Shane-S However, I am sure an experienced person can
19:40 saa does ur opac works fine
19:41 Shane-S yeah, I am running 2 production school library systems
19:41 Shane-S however, I ran 3.8 and updated to 3.12,not a fresh 3.12 install (however 3.8 was buitl from packages, so I just did a apt-get upgrade)
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19:42 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
19:42 ebegin hey mtompset
19:42 wahanui i guess mtompset is caught up in non-coding aspects of his ministry.
19:43 mtompset Not quite... I meant catching up. Oops. :)
19:45 Shane-S saa: I am not certain (as I use php myself, not perl), but that $_ in php is an environmental / global variable tag, so perhaps it is a simple setting missing
19:45 Shane-S code?
19:45 wahanui hmmm... code is kept at git.koha-community.org
19:46 Shane-S code opac-search.pl?
19:48 mtompset saa: do you have the SearchEngine system preference in your database?
19:49 mtompset Actually, let's back up a step. Have you logged into the staff client?
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19:50 mtompset saa: do you have the SearchEngine system preference in your database?
19:50 mtompset Actually, let's back up a step. Have you logged into the staff client?
19:50 saa yes
19:50 mtompset So you have logged in and out of your staff client.
19:50 mtompset Okay, so the database should be populated.
19:50 saa do i have to go to global sys pref
19:51 mtompset Let me check...
19:52 mtompset yes.
19:52 mtompset home
19:52 mtompset koha administration
19:52 mtompset search for 'searchengine' in the global system preferences text box.
19:52 mtompset What happens next?
19:53 saa it shows zebra
19:53 mtompset Okay... change it. save it. change it back. save it.
19:53 wahanui mtompset: that doesn't look right
19:53 saa what it shud be solr
19:53 saa but koha uses zebra search engine
19:53 mtompset No, Zebra.
19:54 mtompset But the thing is, you can't make sure Zebra is saved without changing it, and then changing it back
19:54 saa it is saved with zebra
19:54 saa it does nt allow me to make any change
19:54 mtompset change it.
19:54 wahanui mtompset: that doesn't look right
19:54 mtompset change it.
19:54 wahanui mtompset: that doesn't look right
19:54 mtompset save it.
19:55 saa i saved with zebra
19:55 mtompset okay, try your search again.,
19:55 mtompset same error?
19:55 saa yep
19:55 saa i am trying to reindex zebra from command line
19:56 mtompset just a second...
19:56 mtompset testing a theory.
19:56 saa but it says unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 373
19:56 mtompset Okay... you have now mentioned a second problem while I'm working on the first. please slow down.
19:57 saa ok
19:58 mtompset Okay... that idea didnt work.
19:58 mtompset Let's try this second problem.
19:58 mtompset $ echo $KOHA_CONF
19:59 saa it gives proper koha conf file path
20:00 mtompset $echo $PERL5LIB
20:00 saa sorry
20:00 saa but it should be in my case /etc/koha/sites/library
20:00 saa that is as well showing correct
20:00 mtompset Oh right...
20:01 mtompset so, where did you define KOHA_CONF?
20:01 mtompset in /etc/environment?
20:01 saa what i think is when i say echo $KOHA_CONF it says /etc/koha/sites/koha/koh-conf.xml
20:01 mtompset What is your instance name?
20:01 saa right made that change
20:02 mtompset saa: I don't know what you are doing, so I don't know if you are making it worse...
20:02 mtompset Let's try again.
20:02 mtompset $ echo $KOHA_CONF
20:02 saa it manually now reindexed data
20:02 mtompset Is it /usr/share/koha/lib/?
20:03 saa i made change correctly
20:03 saa but still no results
20:03 mtompset Okay, but it won't be permanent, unless you fix it where you defined it wrong.
20:03 mtompset ps aux | grep zebra
20:03 mtompset use paste.
20:04 saa how to use paste
20:04 saa 1012      2402  0.0  0.0  17132   396 ?        S    01:18   0:00 daemon --name=library-koha-zebra --errlog=/var/log/koha/library/zebra-error.log --stdout=/var/log/koha/library/zebra.log --output=/var/log/koha/library/zebra-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=library-koha.library-koha -- zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml 1012      2415  0.0  0.0 104452  6768 ?        S    01:18   0:00 zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -
20:04 mtompset paste?
20:04 wahanui I eat paste! It's tasty! http://paste.koha-community.org
20:04 mtompset For future reference put it there.
20:05 pastebot "saa" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "koha zebra" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/248
20:05 mtompset Right... that looks right.
20:05 mtompset What command did you use to reindex?
20:05 saa then what is the issue
20:06 mtompset Less questions, more answers. I am trying to diagnose. :)
20:06 saa ./rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r -v
20:06 mtompset as what user?
20:07 saa library-koha
20:07 mtompset but you said your instance name is koha.
20:08 mtompset what did you type for the "koha-create" command?
20:08 saa Use of uninitialized value $limit_desc in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-search.pl line 631
20:08 mtompset What did you type for the "koha-create" command?
20:08 mtompset In fact, what instructions did you follow?
20:08 mtompset What operating system are you running?
20:09 * mtompset sighs.
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20:12 mtompset What did you type for the "koha-create" command?
20:12 mtompset In fact, what instructions did you follow?
20:12 mtompset What operating system are you running?
20:12 saa koha-create --create-db library
20:12 mtompset Okay, your instance name is library then.
20:12 saa yes
20:13 mtompset In fact, what instructions did you follow?
20:13 mtompset What operating system are you running?
20:13 saa ubuntu 12.04
20:13 mtompset In fact, what instructions did you follow?
20:13 saa https://www.digitalocean.com/c[…]ntu-12-04-x32-vps
20:14 saa i can recreate instance if i have missed anything
20:14 saa do u think i should redo the process of installation i can try that
20:15 mtompset saa: Those are older instructions.
20:15 saa oh ok
20:15 saa but then what did i miss
20:16 saa because koha staff client is working fine
20:16 mtompset These are the OFFICIAL instructions: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ubuntu_-_packages
20:16 mtompset In fact, we are running our QA system on digital ocean now.
20:18 saa those instructions are same as mentioned on official instructions
20:19 saa i will remove and retry again
20:19 saa but i had same error earlier
20:19 mtompset No, they are not identical.
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20:45 mtompset Okay... re-installing from scratch to test updates to the instructions.
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21:15 mtompset @later tell tcohen Changed the setting XML Parser steps to upgrading MARC::File::XML steps.
21:15 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
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21:31 pastebot "rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "for tcohen" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/249
21:36 * magnuse waves to keep himself from falling asleep
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21:51 cait khall: around?
21:52 dpk Random problem of the day:  mysql --defaults-extra-file=/etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf fails but if I use mysql -u debian-sys-maint -p and paste in the same password string from the .cnf file above, it works.  Any ideas?  (this is breaking package install)
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22:22 oleonard paul_p: I'm back!
22:22 paul_p oleonard https://seafile.biblibre.com/f/dfbb1086e8/
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23:28 bgallagher This guy is funny!
23:29 bgallagher Fred-King++
23:29 bgallagher paul_p: With the quote of the conference
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23:46 dpk Is Fridolyn at KohaCon?
23:46 bgallagher Don't think so
23:48 jcamins dpk: Paul said he was the only one from BibLibre who made it to KohaCon.
23:49 bgallagher He = paul_p :)
23:50 paul_p dpk nope, frido is not at KohaCon (he broke a leg 2 weeks ago... needed surgery)
23:51 dpk :-(
23:51 bgallagher Oh poor frido
23:51 gmcharlt :(
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23:55 bgallagher This should be cool
23:55 * dcook saw a snippet of this presentation a few days ago
23:55 dcook Looked pretty cool indeed
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