Time  Nick         Message
23:55 dcook        Looked pretty cool indeed
23:55 * dcook      saw a snippet of this presentation a few days ago
23:55 bgallagher   This should be cool
23:51 gmcharlt     :(
23:51 bgallagher   Oh poor frido
23:51 dpk          :-(
23:50 paul_p       dpk nope, frido is not at KohaCon (he broke a leg 2 weeks ago... needed surgery)
23:49 bgallagher   He = paul_p :)
23:48 jcamins      dpk: Paul said he was the only one from BibLibre who made it to KohaCon.
23:46 bgallagher   Don't think so
23:46 dpk          Is Fridolyn at KohaCon?
23:29 bgallagher   paul_p: With the quote of the conference
23:29 bgallagher   Fred-King++
23:28 bgallagher   This guy is funny!
22:22 paul_p       oleonard https://seafile.biblibre.com/f/dfbb1086e8/
22:22 oleonard     paul_p: I'm back!
21:52 dpk          Random problem of the day:  mysql --defaults-extra-file=/etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf fails but if I use mysql -u debian-sys-maint -p and paste in the same password string from the .cnf file above, it works.  Any ideas?  (this is breaking package install)
21:51 cait         khall: around?
21:36 * magnuse    waves to keep himself from falling asleep
21:31 pastebot     "rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "for tcohen" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/249
21:15 huginn       mtompset: The operation succeeded.
21:15 mtompset     @later tell tcohen Changed the setting XML Parser steps to upgrading MARC::File::XML steps.
20:45 mtompset     Okay... re-installing from scratch to test updates to the instructions.
20:19 mtompset     No, they are not identical.
20:19 saa          but i had same error earlier
20:19 saa          i will remove and retry again
20:18 saa          those instructions are same as mentioned on official instructions
20:16 mtompset     In fact, we are running our QA system on digital ocean now.
20:16 mtompset     These are the OFFICIAL instructions: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages
20:16 saa          because koha staff client is working fine
20:15 saa          but then what did i miss
20:15 saa          oh ok
20:15 mtompset     saa: Those are older instructions.
20:14 saa          do u think i should redo the process of installation i can try that
20:14 saa          i can recreate instance if i have missed anything
20:13 saa          https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-koha-library-software-on-an-ubuntu-12-04-x32-vps
20:13 mtompset     In fact, what instructions did you follow?
20:13 saa          ubuntu 12.04
20:13 mtompset     What operating system are you running?
20:13 mtompset     In fact, what instructions did you follow?
20:12 saa          yes
20:12 mtompset     Okay, your instance name is library then.
20:12 saa          koha-create --create-db library
20:12 mtompset     What operating system are you running?
20:12 mtompset     In fact, what instructions did you follow?
20:12 mtompset     What did you type for the "koha-create" command?
20:09 * mtompset   sighs.
20:08 mtompset     What operating system are you running?
20:08 mtompset     In fact, what instructions did you follow?
20:08 mtompset     What did you type for the "koha-create" command?
20:08 saa          Use of uninitialized value $limit_desc in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-search.pl line 631
20:08 mtompset     what did you type for the "koha-create" command?
20:07 mtompset     but you said your instance name is koha.
20:07 saa          library-koha
20:06 mtompset     as what user?
20:06 saa          ./rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r -v
20:06 mtompset     Less questions, more answers. I am trying to diagnose. :)
20:05 saa          then what is the issue
20:05 mtompset     What command did you use to reindex?
20:05 mtompset     Right... that looks right.
20:05 pastebot     "saa" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "koha zebra" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/248
20:04 mtompset     For future reference put it there.
20:04 wahanui      I eat paste! It's tasty! http://paste.koha-community.org
20:04 mtompset     paste?
20:04 saa          1012      2402  0.0  0.0  17132   396 ?        S    01:18   0:00 daemon --name=library-koha-zebra --errlog=/var/log/koha/library/zebra-error.log --stdout=/var/log/koha/library/zebra.log --output=/var/log/koha/library/zebra-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=library-koha.library-koha -- zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml 1012      2415  0.0  0.0 104452  6768 ?        S    01:18   0:00 zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -
20:04 saa          how to use paste
20:03 mtompset     use paste.
20:03 mtompset     ps aux | grep zebra
20:03 mtompset     Okay, but it won't be permanent, unless you fix it where you defined it wrong.
20:03 saa          but still no results
20:03 saa          i made change correctly
20:02 mtompset     Is it /usr/share/koha/lib/?
20:02 saa          it manually now reindexed data
20:02 mtompset     $ echo $KOHA_CONF
20:02 mtompset     Let's try again.
20:02 mtompset     saa: I don't know what you are doing, so I don't know if you are making it worse...
20:01 saa          right made that change
20:01 mtompset     What is your instance name?
20:01 saa          what i think is when i say echo $KOHA_CONF it says /etc/koha/sites/koha/koh-conf.xml
20:01 mtompset     in /etc/environment?
20:01 mtompset     so, where did you define KOHA_CONF?
20:00 mtompset     Oh right...
20:00 saa          that is as well showing correct
20:00 saa          but it should be in my case /etc/koha/sites/library
20:00 saa          sorry
20:00 mtompset     $echo $PERL5LIB
19:59 saa          it gives proper koha conf file path
19:58 mtompset     $ echo $KOHA_CONF
19:58 mtompset     Let's try this second problem.
19:58 mtompset     Okay... that idea didnt work.
19:57 saa          ok
19:56 mtompset     Okay... you have now mentioned a second problem while I'm working on the first. please slow down.
19:56 saa          but it says unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 373
19:56 mtompset     testing a theory.
19:56 mtompset     just a second...
19:55 saa          i am trying to reindex zebra from command line
19:55 saa          yep
19:55 mtompset     same error?
19:55 mtompset     okay, try your search again.,
19:55 saa          i saved with zebra
19:54 mtompset     save it.
19:54 wahanui      mtompset: that doesn't look right
19:54 mtompset     change it.
19:54 wahanui      mtompset: that doesn't look right
19:54 mtompset     change it.
19:54 saa          it does nt allow me to make any change
19:54 saa          it is saved with zebra
19:54 mtompset     But the thing is, you can't make sure Zebra is saved without changing it, and then changing it back
19:53 mtompset     No, Zebra.
19:53 saa          but koha uses zebra search engine
19:53 saa          what it shud be solr
19:53 wahanui      mtompset: that doesn't look right
19:53 mtompset     Okay... change it. save it. change it back. save it.
19:53 saa          it shows zebra
19:52 mtompset     What happens next?
19:52 mtompset     search for 'searchengine' in the global system preferences text box.
19:52 mtompset     koha administration
19:52 mtompset     home
19:52 mtompset     yes.
19:51 mtompset     Let me check...
19:50 saa          do i have to go to global sys pref
19:50 mtompset     Okay, so the database should be populated.
19:50 mtompset     So you have logged in and out of your staff client.
19:50 saa          yes
19:50 mtompset     Actually, let's back up a step. Have you logged into the staff client?
19:50 mtompset     saa: do you have the SearchEngine system preference in your database?
19:49 mtompset     Actually, let's back up a step. Have you logged into the staff client?
19:48 mtompset     saa: do you have the SearchEngine system preference in your database?
19:46 Shane-S      code opac-search.pl?
19:45 wahanui      hmmm... code is kept at git.koha-community.org
19:45 Shane-S      code?
19:45 Shane-S      saa: I am not certain (as I use php myself, not perl), but that $_ in php is an environmental / global variable tag, so perhaps it is a simple setting missing
19:43 mtompset     Not quite... I meant catching up. Oops. :)
19:42 wahanui      i guess mtompset is caught up in non-coding aspects of his ministry.
19:42 ebegin       hey mtompset
19:42 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
19:41 Shane-S      however, I ran 3.8 and updated to 3.12,not a fresh 3.12 install (however 3.8 was buitl from packages, so I just did a apt-get upgrade)
19:41 Shane-S      yeah, I am running 2 production school library systems
19:40 saa          does ur opac works fine
19:40 Shane-S      However, I am sure an experienced person can
19:40 Shane-S      saa: then I can't help, I was hoping it would be an apt-get update or module of perl update, but your versions match mine
19:39 saa          5.014002
19:38 wahanui      5
19:38 Shane-S      5.014 or 5.014002?
19:38 saa          5.014
19:36 Shane-S      okay and the perl version listed on that page?
19:36 saa          installed from packages koha-common
19:35 saa          3.12.05
19:35 Shane-S      saa what version?  More > About Koha from staff CP
19:31 Shane-S      ^ that fixed my issue, but also made ALL the input boxes look awesome IMO!
19:31 pastebot     "Shane-S" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Rounded and Glowing inputs" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/247
19:30 saa          sorry id did not get
19:29 wahanui      i already had it that way, saa.
19:29 saa          i installed koha from ubuntu packages. i am getting an error when i try to carry out search in either opac or intranet opac-search.pl: Use of uninitialized value $_ in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-search.pl line 39
19:28 wahanui      paste is, like, found at http://paste.koha-community.org
19:28 Shane-S      paste?
19:28 Shane-S      *sigh*
19:28 Shane-S      !pastebin
19:28 Shane-S      !paste
19:23 saa          hw to sort out this error
19:23 saa          i installed koha from ubuntu packages. i am getting an error when i try to carry out search in either opac or intranet opac-search.pl: Use of uninitialized value $_ in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-search.pl line 39
19:18 dcook        Sorry, Shane-S. Not sure off the top of my head and just about to head out for lunch.
19:16 Shane-S      CSS wise that is, I don't see anything in chrome element inspector about focus, or selected for a form or input
19:16 Shane-S      anyone know where the green outline on the search box in the staff CP comes from?
19:09 JesseM       bgkriegel++
19:09 rangi        bgkriegel++
19:05 rangi        by not naming the one everyone hates
19:04 rangi        druthb just made my point
19:04 gmcharlt     and could be the index to pick the desired translated label
19:03 rangi        yep
19:03 gmcharlt     'title' might be a good natural key for an index def
19:03 gmcharlt     e.g., imagine index definitions
19:02 gmcharlt     ineed
19:01 jcamins      oleonard: what I do is split the difference: use a key that isn't the string when it makes sense (for example, if the string is locale-specific, but then make the key the string when it's just a translation.
18:59 gmcharlt     use the base English text as the key, effectively
18:59 gmcharlt     oleonard: well, that's actually roughly what the PO systems does
18:57 rangi        yep
18:57 oleonard     I like the idea of the key being the English string, that's unlike other systems I've seen (although not recently)
18:56 oleonard     I'd like to see one of those YAML files
18:53 dcook        "You change it to Arabic and you get a hot mess"
18:50 gmcharlt     druthb++
18:49 dcook        druthb++
18:49 dcook        true that, rangi
18:48 rangi        druthb is owning this
18:42 cait         was good :)
18:39 ebegin       too bad Darson is gone, i'm testing its script to extract records from 001 ;)
18:39 rangi        my main fear was that it would head towards governance, but i think it was a great starter anyway
18:12 wahanui      checkout is probably better in this case.
18:12 rambuten     checkout
18:00 wahanui      coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines
18:00 jcamins      coding guidelines?
17:56 druthb       drnoe++
17:51 oleonard     You could write this script, or you could hire someone to write it for you
17:50 Darson       where could i find this script ?
17:49 ebegin       Darson, this can not be achieve using the interface. However, a script could be easily implement this.
17:49 Darson       i need to export a batch of records that i have their marc field 001 as a list
17:48 Darson       it's not quarry
17:46 druthb       Darson, if you only want one record, and know its' biblionumber, you can kind of brute-force it with SQL: SELECT marc FROM biblioitems WHERE biblionumber = ?;  That's good for a quick-and-dirty, and then you can manipulate the record programmatically, if that's your desire.
17:42 Darson       how i could do this ?
17:42 wahanui      okay, ebegin.
17:42 ebegin       IRC is also a good place to ask question. This week is more quiet that usual because of the Koha Conference
17:42 Darson       if i want to export a specific marc records from koha , based on marc field 001
17:41 Darson       i have another question
17:33 oleonard     Bug reporting: http://bugs.koha-community.org
17:32 ebegin       bugs.koha-community.org should be where you add a new bug ** if it doesn't exists **
17:32 oleonard     Manual: http://koha-community.org/documentation/
17:32 oleonard     http://koha-community.org/support/
17:31 Darson       anyway, for technical support , can you give me the email or the site ?
17:29 ebegin       Darson, I may be wrong, but I think records can be updated by everybody, items shouldn't
17:28 Darson       to who?
17:28 gmcharlt     Darson: might worth reporting a bug, then
17:26 Darson       ?
17:21 Darson       the cataloger can edit some records available at another branches
17:20 Darson       i tried this , but it does not work
17:19 gmcharlt     Darson: there's a setting called IndependentBranches that can restrict this, although it has broader consequences of restricting circulation between libraries
17:15 Darson       ok , if i have many branches, how i can prevent the the catalogers of a specific branch to not edit the records/items of the other branch ?
17:13 gmcharlt     if installed in a different way, there are upgrade instructions on the Koha wiki
17:12 gmcharlt     Darson: depends on how you installed it -- if you installed from Debian packges, could be as simple as running an 'apt-get upgrade'
17:11 Darson       it's ok, @gmcharlt , how i can update koha version , i am using koha 3.10
17:10 gmcharlt     Darson: probably nothing prewritten -- somebody would have to write one
17:08 Darson       where could i find these scripts?
17:07 gmcharlt     (or write a Perl script or the like to rearrange the fields after the records are exported from Koha)
17:06 gmcharlt     using MarcEdit, it would be manually editing each record, although one might be able to write a macro to rearrange the fields automatically
17:04 Darson       ok, how i can rearange the marc fields
17:04 gmcharlt     yes, and use MarcEdit as the way to manage the MARC records in your Koha system
17:03 Darson       i can keep them in an external file
17:02 gmcharlt     it's more that if you arrange the fields in the order you want, it won't change it on you
17:01 Darson       so , is marcEdit can arrange the fields based on $6 ?
16:58 gmcharlt     (also, as a general note, subfield $6 allows the related fields to refer to each other without requiring that the 880 follow the main field it provides a transliteration for)
16:58 cait         Darson: i think Koha won't care about the sequence
16:58 gmcharlt     Darson: here's a presentation about the integration - http://blog.reeset.net/archives/1119
16:58 Darson       the goal is putting related marc fields togother
16:56 cait         making it more readable when exported?
16:56 oleonard     Darson, I don't think anyone is going to email you instructions. You can search the web for MarcEdit and find documentation
16:56 cait         Darson: what is your goal when rearranging?
16:56 Darson       any way, can you please send me how i can rearrange my marc fields through marcEdit ? my email is darson_meno@yahoo.com
16:53 gmcharlt     i.e., the release next May
16:53 gmcharlt     also, in the future -- in about 8 months or so there an upcoming version of Koha will have an alternative MARC editor that will almost certainly keep your field order the way you want
16:53 gmcharlt     not my preferred option, since MarcEdit isn't really free software
16:52 gmcharlt     and keep the tag order if you need it that way for export
16:52 gmcharlt     so you could use that to edit your records
16:52 gmcharlt     the MarcEdit tool has a way to save records into a Koha database
16:52 Darson       great tell me please
16:52 gmcharlt     Darson: there is another option as a workaround
16:52 rangi        typo
16:52 rangi        heh
16:52 cait         9? :)
16:51 rangi        9
16:51 gmcharlt     however, at least for display in Koha, they don't have to be interleaved for it be displayed and indexed correctly
16:51 gmcharlt     Darson: at the moment, using Koha's MARC editor, inteleaving the 880 and other fields like that isn't really possible
16:51 jcamins      Darson: that can't be done in Koha's cataloging module at present.
16:50 Darson       Note that the marc field 880 comes after field 100 , marc field 246 and marc field 260, we tried many times to create this format through “MARC frameworks” but it does not work.
16:49 Darson       how we can arrange the marc fields in a specific way during the cataloging process and keep this format after exporting marc records, for example:   100	1_ |6 880-01 |a Farīd, Hishām Muḥammad. 880	1_ |6 100-01/(3/r |a فريد، هشام محمد. 245	13 |6 880-02 |a al-Ḥimāyah al-jināʼīyah li-ḥaqq al-insān fī ṣūratih / |c Hishām Farīd. 880	12 |6 245-02/(3/r |a الحماية الجنائية لحق الانسان في صورت
16:48 rambuten     and if someone is available they may try to answer
16:48 rambuten     welcome Darson, some of the people logged on are in a meeting, but ask your question
16:48 Darson       any one can help?
16:48 Darson       i have some questions
16:47 Darson       and i need someone to help me
16:47 Darson       i am new user in koha
16:47 Darson       hi all
16:47 gmcharlt     rangi++
16:47 rangi        well that went better than yesterday
16:46 nengard      can someone in the back close the door again?
16:38 * cait       waves
16:28 gaetan_B     bye !
16:23 Shane-S      oh okay, got it, forgot about the hidden text
16:23 oleonard     That is an image replacement technique. Give 0px height to the actual text, and show a background image in its place
16:22 Shane-S      hmm why is this (height: 0px !important;) on the h1#libraryname a CSS from opac.css, I can't adjust the height, or are you utilizing the padding value for height?
16:17 Shane-S      ROFL whes.npelem.com find the link on the horse to go home....so not intentional...i need to fix that
16:16 * Shane-S    will leave it as it is then :)
16:15 * jcamins    defers to oleonard.
16:15 * oleonard   thinks it's fine the way it is
16:14 Shane-S      I can try and work on that if you think it a good idea :P
16:13 Shane-S      perhaps we could "disable" (grey it out) and remove the go button, and populate with text "Please use below search boxes"?
16:13 druthb       Or maybe not.
16:13 druthb       puh.  blame it on lag, and maybe someone will believe you.
16:13 jcamins      Sorry, I didn't mean to demonstrate redundant.
16:13 jcamins      Argh! Lag!
16:12 druthb       LOL
16:12 jcamins      It would be redundant, and it might be confusing about which button to click.
16:12 oleonard     because otherwise it is redundant and potentially confusing
16:12 Shane-S      okay, it just looks weird without it, just wanted to ask :)
16:11 jcamins      Shane-S: yes.
16:11 oleonard     Yes
16:11 Shane-S      Question is the main top search box supposed to disappear on the advanced search screen?
16:01 reiveune     bye
15:59 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1457: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1457/
14:31 jcamins      gmcharlt: thanks.
14:30 gmcharlt     jcamins: there typically has been a group meeting on the ground floor next to the elevator back immediately next to the hotel registration desk ... at 8
14:29 gmcharlt     oleonard: that's an excellent idea
14:29 * oleonard   proposes a "Know Your Bots" lightning talk
14:24 oleonard     Poor wahanui, not even a mention in the keynote
14:20 wahanui      i haven't a clue, ebegin
14:20 ebegin       wahanui, how's kohacon ?
14:18 ebegin       hehe :)
14:18 wahanui      ebegin: excuse me?
14:18 ebegin       wahanui, since when you speak french ? :)
14:18 wahanui      bonjour, oleonard
14:18 oleonard     hi
14:17 jcamins      Good morning oleonard.
14:12 jcamins      gmcharlt: do you know if there any group breakfast plans?
14:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #1457 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 14 hr ago)
14:09 ebegin       morning all
14:09 jcamins      Good morning.
14:07 gmcharlt     good morning
10:08 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8368 critical, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , List email broken for non english templates
10:08 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8368: (follow-up) restore use of quoted printable for message body
10:08 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8368: (follow-up) port change to the Bootstrap OPAC; restore ISBN display
10:08 jenkins_koha * Frédéric Demians: Bug 8368: fix email lists from OPAC when using non-English templates
10:08 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1456: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1456/
09:05 Abrar        I am planning to Implement Koha in my school please guide me how can I start?
09:04 Abrar        I am new to Koha
09:04 Abrar        Hello
08:36 magnuse      gmcharlt++ for late night, post-conference patch-pushing
08:24 jenkins_koha Starting build #1456 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 9 hr 4 min ago)
08:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10843 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , print a slip can cause an error
08:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10850 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Give Quick spine label template page its own id
08:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10038 trivial, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Doubled 'default' entry when creating a new authority type
08:23 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10843: fix crash that can occur when confirming hold if ReservesMaxPickUpDelay is undefined
08:23 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10850 - give quick spine label template page its own ID
08:23 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10038: (follow-up) fix tabs
08:23 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10038: fix doubled 'default' entry when creating a new authority type
08:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1455: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1455/
08:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8368 critical, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , List email broken for non english templates
08:19 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8368: (follow-up) restore use of quoted printable for message body
08:19 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8368: (follow-up) port change to the Bootstrap OPAC; restore ISBN display
08:19 jenkins_koha * Frédéric Demians: Bug 8368: fix email lists from OPAC when using non-English templates
08:19 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #162: SUCCESS in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/162/
07:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #162 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
07:30 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8368: (follow-up) restore use of quoted printable for message body <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=51a6f0958926fcbdf48e97d386a2463a9c113d73> / Bug 8368: (follow-up) port change to the Bootstrap OPAC; restore ISBN display <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=745bcfe0a6066a552d53d813ed4aed625c7e52b4> / Bug 8368: fix email lists from OPAC when using non-English t
07:20 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10843 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , print a slip can cause an error
07:20 jenkins_koha Jonathan Druart: Bug 10843: fix crash that can occur when confirming hold if ReservesMaxPickUpDelay is undefined
07:20 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #161: SUCCESS in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/161/
07:10 samueld      hi everybody
07:06 magnuse      hehe
07:06 clrh         I am just impolite to not saying hello here ;)
07:05 magnuse      ah, cool
07:05 clrh         (at work)
07:05 clrh         I am back for 3 weeks
07:05 magnuse      clrh: are you just back at work, or did i just not see you ?
07:01 clrh         yop magnuse
07:00 magnuse      hiya reiveune and clrh
06:54 clrh         hello
06:38 reiveune     hello
06:33 jenkins_koha Starting build #1455 for job Koha_master (previous build: NOW UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 7 hr 13 min ago)
06:32 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10380 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , output_pref should use a hashref for parameters
06:32 jenkins_koha Galen Charlton: Bug 10380: (follow-up) remove inadvertant database dependency for t/DateUtils.t
06:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1454: NOW UNSTABLE in 1 hr 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1454/
06:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #161 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
06:31 magnuse      ¡hola tcohen!
06:23 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10843: fix crash that can occur when confirming hold if ReservesMaxPickUpDelay... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a9b564678e184b44b4c54d72e21f66efc3810f4e>
06:12 * magnuse    waves
06:08 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10850 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Give Quick spine label template page its own id
06:08 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10038 trivial, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Doubled 'default' entry when creating a new authority type
06:08 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10850 - give quick spine label template page its own ID
06:08 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10038: (follow-up) fix tabs
06:08 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10038: fix doubled 'default' entry when creating a new authority type
06:08 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #160: SUCCESS in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/160/
05:19 jenkins_koha Starting build #160 for job master_maria (previous build: FIXED)
05:18 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10380 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , output_pref should use a hashref for parameters
05:18 jenkins_koha Galen Charlton: Bug 10380: (follow-up) remove inadvertant database dependency for t/DateUtils.t
05:18 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #159: FIXED in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/159/
05:18 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
05:02 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10850 - give quick spine label template page its own ID <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5fe524cf3ab0ff78401e7b467823da4d62d9a537>
04:50 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10038: (follow-up) fix tabs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ce9f504c7903d7431c8e18754f18ddf5bca2727a> / Bug 10038: fix doubled 'default' entry when creating a new authority type <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b04118df82a20eeec71bfb99349ab28943011c42>
04:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #1454 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #1451 5 hr 23 min ago)
04:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1453: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1453/
04:38 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10380: (follow-up) remove inadvertant database dependency for t/DateUtils.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=66de7d0e17745ff93bcf3d10dc9f83cdb39290fc>
04:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #159 for job master_maria (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #157 5 hr 15 min ago)
04:06 mtompset     Have a great day, #koha.
02:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #1453 for job Koha_master (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #1451 3 hr 36 min ago)
02:56 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10380 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , output_pref should use a hashref for parameters
02:56 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10380: (follow-up) update POD to fully reflect change to output_pref()
02:56 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10380: (follow-up) update two more uses of output_pref()
02:56 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10380: (follow-up) update some uses of output_pref()
02:56 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10380: Change prototype for output_pref() routine
02:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1452: FAILURE in 1 hr 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1452/
01:46 wahanui      no worries dpk
01:46 dpk          wahanui:Thanks!
01:44 wahanui      gitify is, like, at https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify
01:44 eythian      wahanui: gitify
01:44 eythian      gitify
01:43 dpk          s/citify/gitify/
01:42 dpk          What is the name of the script to make a debian package based install work with you git tree?  (citify?)
01:08 jenkins_koha Starting build #1452 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:07 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10535 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , by default sort funds by name
01:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10535: (follow-up) wrap Budgets.t in transaction
01:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10535: (follow-up) add test case
01:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1451: SUCCESS in 1 hr 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1451/
01:06 wahanui      mtompset: that doesn't look right
01:06 mtompset     change it to 'None', and it should work.
01:05 mtompset     tcohen: Delete your AllowPKIAuth system preference and try logging in... with '', I think it may fail.
01:04 mtompset     If it isn't one of the three expected values, then we have some really bizarre scenario.
01:04 mtompset     If it was added, then it should be one of the three expected values.
01:03 mtompset     So the case that somehow the system preference wasn't added... it should be 'None'.
01:02 tcohen       yo might need to write a unit test and see if it is worth filling a new bug maybe?
01:02 mtompset     No, because the updatedatabase.pl puts 'None' in the field by default.
01:02 tcohen       i'm not sure mtompset
01:01 eythian      maybe '' pulls the default?
01:00 mtompset     Mmmm.... okay... // works, but it should be // 'None', not // '' -- Because the choices are limited to 'None','Common Name', or 'emailAddress'.
00:58 mtompset     Okay... now I need to read the C4::Context->preference('foobar') code.
00:57 eythian      yeah
00:57 mtompset     whereas my $var = $foo || $bar; would show 'blah';
00:56 eythian      yes
00:56 mtompset     would show '';
00:56 mtompset     print $var;
00:56 mtompset     my $var = $foo // $bar;
00:56 mtompset     $bar = 'blah';
00:56 eythian      yeah
00:56 mtompset     $foo = '';
00:55 mtompset     So, if ...
00:55 mtompset     Ah.
00:55 tcohen       i followed galen's advice
00:55 eythian      So things that are defined but false will have different results.
00:55 tcohen       http://galencharlton.com/blog/2013/07/tutorial-perl-5-10-and-koha/
00:55 eythian      || tests for truth, // tests for defined.
00:54 wahanui      hmmm... the difference is with the package the upgrade is more-or-less foolproof.
00:54 mtompset     Okay... what is the difference?
00:54 eythian      it means a different thing
00:54 mtompset     It's harder to read, for me at least.
00:54 mtompset     Also... why are you using // instead of ||?
00:53 tcohen       we are allowed to do it as long as it is part of the function we are touching
00:52 mtompset     tcohen: Why did you fix the indentation of the userid line? That's not part of the bug.
00:52 dpk          here
00:51 wahanui      dpk is looking at the signed-off bugs to find things I can QA.  What does it mean when the bug has a QA assignment of Testopia?
00:51 tcohen       dpk?
00:50 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10380 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , output_pref should use a hashref for parameters
00:50 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10380: (follow-up) update POD to fully reflect change to output_pref()
00:50 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10380: (follow-up) update two more uses of output_pref()
00:50 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10380: (follow-up) update some uses of output_pref()
00:50 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10380: Change prototype for output_pref() routine
00:50 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #158: FAILURE in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/158/
00:48 mtompset     I've started doing more. YAY!
00:48 mtompset     Yes, most definitely sign off.
00:48 eythian      dpk: you're thinking signoff
00:48 tcohen       QA is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Quality_Assurance_Testing
00:48 dpk          my understanding is that they are keen to have more, and its a bit of quid-pro-quo that you help QA stuff if you want your stuff QA'd promptly.  I suspect it also makes you appreciate good bug and fix submission and will do a better job yourself when you have been on the receiving end.
00:47 wahanui      ...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow.|a little bit creepy.|right sometimes|a strange duck...
00:47 mtompset     wahanui: You are so helpful at times.
00:47 wahanui      qa team is required
00:47 mtompset     qa team?
00:47 wahanui      QA is probably Quality Assurance?
00:47 mtompset     QA?
00:47 tcohen       there's a QA manager, and former RM are part of the team, along with elected members
00:47 mtompset     (double meaning unintentionally intended after some thought)
00:46 mtompset     I'm not familiar with who all are the QA folk. Are you?
00:46 mtompset     But I thought QA folk were assigned to their roles.
00:46 mtompset     I would agree with that assessment, dpk.
00:45 dpk          If we want more people to QA, we need better instructions in the Wiki for potential QAers.  I think there is a lot of unwritten knowledge here.
00:45 mtompset     That was supposed to be the default value added by installers/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl
00:45 mtompset     instead of q{}... it should be 'None'.
00:45 mtompset     Though... I did make a mistake.
00:44 tcohen       mtompset: you're right
00:44 mtompset     Good questions. I don't know.
00:43 dpk          Ditto if its assigned to "Bugs List"
00:42 dpk          I am looking at the signed-off bugs to find things I can QA.  What does it mean when the bug has a QA assignment of Testopia?
00:24 huginn       mtompset: The operation succeeded.
00:24 mtompset     @later tell tcohen I like your bug report, but I don't like your patch for bug 11077. See my comment.
00:03 jenkins_koha Starting build #158 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10535 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , by default sort funds by name
00:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10535: (follow-up) wrap Budgets.t in transaction
00:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10535: (follow-up) add test case
00:03 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #157: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/157/