IRC log for #koha, 2013-10-17

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00:00 mtompset keet?
00:00 rambuten kitty
00:00 rambuten long terminal "e"
00:00 mtompset katie? ;)
00:01 mtompset kit-tee?
00:01 gmcharlt keh-tee (to my ear)
00:01 rambuten yep, like htat
00:01 cait :)
00:01 rambuten that
00:01 cait be gmcharlt
00:01 wahanui Here, kitty kitty kitty...
00:01 Ashimema meow..
00:01 gmcharlt :)
00:02 Ashimema cat jokes aside, looks awesome
00:02 mtompset Oh, is this somehow related to how to pronounce cait's name?
00:02 cait um no.
00:02 cait cait just like kate
00:02 mtompset logs?
00:02 wahanui well, logs is
00:02 cait becaue katrin has some difficulties to pronounce
00:03 cait it seems :)
00:03 mtompset I can think of 3 a's and perhaps 3 i's, so yes... lots of wrong ways, I would think.
00:05 mtompset So, why are we talking about pronouncing 'ki' as in 'kit' and 'tee' for kitty?
00:05 Ashimema current kohacon talk is about 'kete'
00:06 Ashimema hence the pronunciation conundrum...
00:06 Ashimema blame the kiwi's ;)
00:06 dcook mtompset:
00:08 rambuten mtompset: are you following the #kohacon13 tweets?
00:08 mtompset I don't tweet.
00:08 mtompset #I #think #hashtags #are #annoying #because #people #abuse #them. :P
00:09 rambuten twitter is just about the only web 2.0 thing I do occasionally....
00:09 mtompset Though, I have visited that storify link rangi posted.
00:09 rambuten I don't facebook, "like", Myspace, nothing
00:10 Ashimema storify link?
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00:11 nick12254353 Hello, i just installed koha onto ubuntu following this[…]nt_Stable_Version  , i can access :80 and it shows koha maintence but :8080 doesnt work, anyhelp is appreciated
00:11 rangi
00:13 cait cya later all :)
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00:14 dcook I think Imma peace out too
00:14 Ashimema right.. time to sign off..
00:14 Ashimema laters all
00:14 rambuten sessions over
00:15 mtompset nick12254353: How did you install Koha? packages?
00:15 mtompset What instructions did you follow?
00:15 mtompset Because my guess is that you are trying to access with an IP address and not a name.
00:18 nick12254353 i am trying to access with
00:18 nick12254353 i am trying to access with
00:18 nick12254353 i was following[…]nt_Stable_Version for development version
00:18 nick12254353 mtompset **
00:20 nick12254353 servername:80 works to opac
00:20 nick12254353 servername:8080 doesntwork
00:22 mtompset Right.
00:22 mtompset Because the instructions you followed are named-based setup for apache.
00:22 mtompset Sorry for the slow reply, I was putting my son to beed.
00:22 nick12254353 haha thats fine
00:23 nick12254353 so how do i get it to work?
00:23 mtompset So, I'd like to know... what did you put in /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf?
00:23 mtompset use
00:24 nick12254353 DOMAIN=""  # Any library instance will be a subdomain of this string. INTRAPORT="80"  # TCP listening port for the administration interface INTRAPREFIX=""  # For administration interface URL: Prefix to be added to the instance name. INTRASUFFIX="-intra"  # For administration interface URL: Suffix to be added to the instance name. DEFAULTSQL="/usr/share/koha/defaults.sql.gz"  # only needed if you're pre-populating from another Koha
00:24 mtompset INTRASUFFIX = "-intra"
00:24 mtompset Therefore...
00:24 nick12254353 DEFAULTSQL = ""  **
00:24 mtompset servername-intra:80 goes to staff client.
00:25 mtompset servername:80 goes to opac
00:25 nick12254353 servername-intra doesnt workl
00:25 mtompset What did you use for the koha-create command?
00:25 nick12254353 sudo koha-create --create-db libary
00:26 mtompset libary or library? :)
00:26 nick12254353 whoops, libary .. but thats ok
00:26 mtompset that means libary-intra:80 should go to staff client and libary should go to opac.
00:27 nick12254353 nope
00:27 mtompset That's because you have a DNS issue now.
00:27 nick12254353 uh
00:27 mtompset because the machine you are browsing from doesn't know how to turn libary-intra into the ip address.
00:27 nick12254353 so can i just use the ip somewhoe?
00:27 nick12254353 somwhow*
00:28 mtompset you can, but the instructions are name-based.
00:28 mtompset because the assumption is you want your library OPAC to be searched publicly.
00:28 mtompset over the internet.
00:28 nick12254353 its going to be over a local network
00:28 mtompset so, who is your system/network administrator?
00:29 nick12254353 What were planning on doing is that guys just gonna forward the ip to the server name
00:29 mtompset They would be able to help you set up a local network DNS entry so that the machine is known by all the other machines on the network.
00:29 nick12254353 but right now thats not setup
00:29 nick12254353 oh
00:30 nick12254353 i have to go, but ill be back later, thanks for the help
00:30 nick12254353 20~ minutes maybe
00:30 mtompset Sorry I couldn't help more.
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00:33 nick12254353 Thats ok
00:36 mtompset Hmmm... do you have a gui?
00:36 nick12254353 No gui
00:37 nick12254353 i have ubuntu 12.04
00:37 mtompset ubuntu?
00:37 wahanui it has been said that ubuntu is a debian-based OS and Koha has shiny new ubuntu intructions.
00:37 mtompset packages?
00:37 wahanui packages is at
00:37 nick12254353 i usede lynx to try and access it from the server
00:37 nick12254353 and it says unable to access document
00:38 nick12254353 is what i used ...
00:38 mtompset[…]ubuntu_-_packages
00:38 mtompset You are using Ubuntu...
00:38 mtompset If you follow those instructions, it should work.
00:39 nick12254353 ok, ill try again'
00:39 mtompset There is use of lynx too.
00:39 mtompset However, there is also an edit of /etc/hosts to compensate for a temporary non-existence of a DNS entry.
00:39 wahanui okay, mtompset.
00:39 mtompset there?
00:39 wahanui there is a lot of clean up that could be done.
00:40 mtompset there?
00:40 wahanui somebody said there was a lot of clean up that could be done.
00:40 mtompset there?
00:40 wahanui rumour has it there is a script to rebuild with using nozebra
00:40 mtompset there?
00:40 wahanui i heard there was a lot of clean up that could be done.
00:40 mtompset wahanui forget there
00:40 wahanui mtompset: I forgot there
00:40 mtompset there?
00:40 mtompset There is a lot of clean up that could be done.
00:41 mtompset there is a script to rebuild with using nozebra
00:41 mtompset there?
00:42 nick12254353 i looked at the hosts
00:42 nick12254353 mine just has
00:42 nick12254353   localhost
00:42 nick12254353      servername
00:42 nick12254353 should i change these
00:44 BobB @wunder reno, nv
00:44 huginn BobB: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 17.5°C (5:30 PM PDT on October 16, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
00:45 nick12254353 mtompset
00:45 wahanui it has been said that mtompset is fighting a test writing learning curve to get code in before feature slush.
00:45 mtompset wahanui: forget mtompset
00:45 wahanui mtompset: I forgot mtompset
00:46 nick12254353 Should it?
00:46 nick12254353 Should i?
00:46 mtompset I would *ADD*
00:46 mtompset libary library-intra
00:46 mtompset Oops... libary-intra (since you made that typo)
00:47 mtompset Then you should be able to: lynx libary-intra
00:47 mtompset And get the koha web-install started.
00:48 nick12254353 it goes to opac
00:48 mtompset really?
00:48 wahanui really is probably off now
00:48 mtompset wahanui: forget really
00:48 wahanui mtompset: I forgot really
00:49 nick12254353 really
00:49 nick12254353 it goes to the main. page
00:49 nick12254353 it goes to the maint. page *
00:49 mtompset right...
00:49 mtompset You have some apache configuration issue as well, it would seem.
00:50 mtompset I promise results.
00:50 nick12254353 :(
00:50 mtompset DON'T promise results.
00:50 nick12254353 Ok great, but i'll be 20 min now, im actually going for dinner
00:51 mtompset can you cut and paste your /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/libary file to -- NOT THE CHANNEL.
00:55 wizzyrea possibly your config is listening for libary-intra on 8080 and not 80
00:56 wizzyrea so I'd check your /etc/apache2/sites-available/libary scroll down to where you see intranet
00:56 wizzyrea and make sure the first line says *:80 and not *:8080
01:01 mtompset The <VirtualHost *:80>
01:01 mtompset But nick12254353 is probably gone for supper.
01:02 wizzyrea yea figured I'd just leave that there for him
01:02 wizzyrea I think this tea was brewed on the face of the sun.
01:03 mtompset -- You triggered this musical flashback.
01:03 wizzyrea hehe
01:04 wizzyrea I aim to please.
01:05 mtompset Not my favorite style of music, but it's an okay tune.
01:06 wizzyrea What retro 60's music isn't your favorite :P
01:08 mtompset It's too psychodelic, and not enough groovy. :P
01:15 mtompset Hmmm... I think Koha means something in some other language.
01:15 mtompset
01:20 nick12254353 i am bac
01:20 mtompset okay... first, we need to get you to use
01:21 nick12254353 ok
01:21 mtompset So, just go there, change the channel to #koha, put in your nick, and then type anything... just you get an idea of how it works.
01:21 nick12254353 Yes
01:21 nick12254353 and im putting /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/libary
01:22 mtompset Sure... sounds like a plan.
01:23 nick12254353 is there something inpiticular you need from it?
01:23 nick12254353 i dont really want to type it all unless nessicary
01:24 nick12254353 Oh! # intranet virtualhost is *8080
01:24 nick12254353 should i change that to 80?
01:26 mtompset Yes.
01:26 nick12254353 And now what should i go to? URL
01:27 mtompset Because you probably don't have Listen:8080 in /etc/apache2/ports.conf
01:27 mtompset No, sudo service apache2 restart
01:27 nick12254353 did that
01:27 mtompset Then try lynx libary-intra
01:27 nick12254353 libary-intra goes to koha installer
01:27 nick12254353 but
01:27 mtompset That's correct.
01:27 mtompset Because you can't get OPAC until you've finished the install.
01:27 nick12254353 can i get to it from google chrome on another computer?
01:28 nick12254353 i know, ive used it beffore
01:28 mtompset Not unless you modify the equivalent /etc/hosts file on every other machine.
01:28 nick12254353 but id like to configure from a diffrent computer, where, theres an actual gui
01:28 mtompset This is why you need to talk to your system adminsitrator or network administrator about this.
01:28 nick12254353 what do i edit /etc/hosts to?
01:28 mtompset Are the other machines Ubuntu too?
01:29 nick12254353 No
01:29 mtompset Then I can't help you.
01:29 nick12254353 win 7 google chrome
01:29 nick12254353 oh
01:29 nick12254353 what do i tell my sys admiun
01:29 mtompset You need a DNS entry, and a static IP address for your linux box.
01:29 nick12254353 Ok thanks
01:30 wizzyrea \o/ winning
01:33 nick12254353 so my sys admin said to add into my host file the ip addres of my server then libary-intra
01:34 mtompset Well, I don't maintain your machines, your sysadmin should be doing it.
01:35 mtompset And adding it into HOSTS is the wrong way to do it.
01:35 mtompset Because you'll need to do that for EVERY machine.
01:36 nick12254353 hm
01:36 nick12254353 i know ive setup with koha 3.2
01:36 nick12254353 it just used 80 and 8080 and it worked fine
01:36 mtompset different ip address.
01:36 nick12254353 how do i get it to work like that? instead of having all this -intra stuff
01:36 mtompset perhaps you are using DHCP?
01:36 nick12254353 i think it goes through dhcp
01:37 mtompset Sorry... I don't have time to help now... my work calls. :(
01:37 nick12254353 Oh, ok
01:37 nick12254353 thanks though
01:38 jcamins nick12254353: in order to just use 80 and 8080, all you have to do is configure Apache to serve the virtual hosts on different ports.
01:39 nick12254353 thats how it is now i thnik
01:39 nick12254353 #intranet virtualhost is set to *8080
01:39 nick12254353 and opac is on *80
01:39 nick12254353 but if i go to ip address or server name :8080 it doesnt work
01:40 jcamins Did you set it up to listen on port 8080 in /etc/apache2/ports.conf?
01:40 nick12254353 ehe nope
01:40 nick12254353 what do i write to do that?
01:41 nick12254353 i see it has Listen 80
01:41 nick12254353 do i just write Listen 8080
01:42 jcamins Yes.
01:43 nick12254353 YAY!
01:43 nick12254353 thank you
01:43 nick12254353 it works now
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03:00 eythian @wunder nzwn
03:00 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (3:30 PM NZDT on October 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
03:00 eythian holy crap what happened
03:10 mtompset typhoon?
03:16 eythian I don't remember when I last saw 18°C in this country. Can't have been since last summer, anyway.
03:19 ibeardslee was a beautiful day out there at lunch time
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03:38 Andrew_ hi guys. I m newbie to koha. would be great if someone can show me some pointers
03:38 Andrew_ for the cpan initialization
03:39 Andrew_ do I execute this command "cpan
03:39 Andrew_ do I execute this command "cpan" or "cpan /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/CPAN/ initialized." ?
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03:41 mtompset why are you using cpan?
03:41 AnDrew__ was looking into the documentation
03:41 AnDrew__ on how to setup koha
03:41 mtompset what documentation?
03:41 wahanui it has been said that documentation is at
03:41 mtompset Thank you, wahanui. I was asking AnDrew__.
03:42 mtompset Where did you get the documentation you are referencing?
03:43 mtompset What version of Linux are you using, AnDrew__?
03:44 AnDrew__ searched the web....
03:44 AnDrew__ sorry.... I was not aware if there's an actual documentation
03:44 mtompset Okay, there is a lot of bad documenation out there.
03:45 AnDrew__ I am using red hat 6
03:45 mtompset Okay... RH. :(
03:45 mtompset Koha runs really well under Debian or other Debian-based Linuxes.
03:45 AnDrew__ oh.... please don't tell me RH is not supported....
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03:45 mtompset Koha can be made to run on Red Hat.
03:46 AnDrew__ I notice lots of recommendation on debian
03:46 mtompset But the majority of people do not install from red hat.
03:46 AnDrew__ unfortunately we only have rh liccenses
03:46 eythian You also have Debian license.
03:46 eythian *licenses.
03:47 AnDrew__ eythian, sad case... we don't have it here. :(
03:48 mtompset Someone obviously got 3.8.6 to work on Red Hat:[…]dhat_Enterprise_6
03:49 mtompset However, there are other dependencies that may not be installed in newer versions, which may require hunting for RPMs (prefer method) or worse CPAN'ing them (horrible reality).
03:50 eythian I'd almost say that if you're going to be CPANning 75% of everything, you may as well do 100%
03:50 * mtompset cringes, "I think that is probably good, because it is hard to remember what you did or didn't CPAN."
03:51 AnDrew__ yea... I m having the hard time now...
03:52 AnDrew__ mtompset, I am also referring to that documentation part as well
03:52 AnDrew__ that you suggested....
03:52 mtompset I did try to get Koha on to CentOS once.
03:53 mtompset After finding 18 libraries not in default repositories, I gave up.
03:53 AnDrew__ thanks mtompset....  I will go offline now... to use vpn accesss to my server...
03:53 AnDrew__ will check with you guys again later....
03:53 AnDrew__ thanks for the pointers...
03:53 AnDrew__ wish me luck. :)
03:53 mtompset oh...
03:53 mtompset ./ -a -b
03:54 mtompset I believe that will list everyone you need to CPAN, if you decide to CPAN everything.
03:54 mtompset I mean everything.
03:55 mtompset eythian: Is $debug declared as a readonly variable somewhere?
03:55 AnDrew__ thanks mtompset.
03:55 AnDrew__ bye.
03:55 eythian mtompset: not sure where it gets defined actually.
03:56 mtompset Because a build I used off of master gives me "Modification of a read-only value attempted at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/tools/ line 46"
03:56 mtompset but the same code in a local VM doesn't barf like that.
03:57 eythian It might be, don't know.
04:00 mtompset The line reads "$debug or $debug = $cgi_debug;"
04:00 mtompset Would parenthesis help clarify it?
04:01 mtompset Because I could see how it might barf if it tries to assign $cgi_debug to ($debug or $debug)
04:02 eythian it's smarter than that, that would be a syntax error
04:02 eythian I don't see the point of the "$debug or" bit though.
04:02 eythian oh wait
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04:02 eythian yes I do
04:03 mtompset The weird thing is, the $debug is only used in one place... I don't understand why they didn't just put the $debug || $cgi_debug on that line.
04:03 mtompset and then no need to assign anything.
04:04 eythian ?
04:04 eythian the assignment is the point.
04:04 eythian It's saying "if debug is not set, set it to $cgi_debug"
04:04 eythian oh
04:04 mtompset but should the assignment in that module affect outside that module?!
04:04 eythian yeah, but there may have been more $debug stuff, or there may be in the future.
04:05 eythian having a central (to the module) debug indicator is much preferable.
04:05 mtompset so a "my $local_debug = $debug || $cgi_debug;" and tweak other lines?
04:06 eythian it's debug everywhere else in the app.
04:06 eythian I'm not sold on it needing to be readonly.
04:06 eythian fix the problem, not the symptom.
04:06 mtompset but I can't replicate the problem on my local VM.
04:07 mtompset I can only replicate it on a build from master a couple days ago.
04:07 eythian You're testing debug code, so you should make sure your debug settings are identical.
04:08 mtompset Good point.
04:14 mtompset Nope cgi_debug and debug are both identical.
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04:14 eythian could it be coming from the apache environment?
04:15 mtompset No DEBUG defined in either.
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04:15 mtompset I'm thinking, the only good way to know for sure if to rebuild a distribution and put it up.
04:15 eythian $ grep -ri debug etc
04:15 eythian etc/koha-httpd.conf:#   SetEnv DEBUG "1"
04:15 eythian nothing along those lines?
04:16 mtompset Commented out in one, nothing in the other.
04:16 eythian hmm, dunno then. But presumably something is setting it read only.
04:16 eythian Have you searched the code for readonly?
04:20 mtompset BINGO!
04:20 mtompset My bad. :)
04:20 eythian oh?
04:21 mtompset I have an external authentication patch.
04:21 mtompset I put readonly on debug in one of my patches.
04:21 mtompset That's an unexpected freaky side effect.
04:22 eythian heh there you go
04:23 mtompset What was I thinking?!
04:23 mtompset I don't even use $debug in the whole module.
04:23 mtompset time to clean up my patch.
04:26 mtompset now for that other strange problem...
04:33 mtompset http://http:// nice.
04:36 mtompset It's rather annoying that servername/path/to/ is turned into http://whateverIwasJustOn/serv[…]h/to/, by default.
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04:39 mtompset eythian: Any ideas for avoiding hard coded http://'s and still getting https:// nicely?
04:49 mtompset Well, have a great day, #koha.
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05:35 zebran00b hi gang - another admin restored our koha server to a backup, and now all the item data doesn't appear in the records. The item data is still there somewhere because it works in search and checkin/checkout, and if you "edit items" the data is there, but it doesn't appear in the biblio record.
05:50 zebran00b and now every click through my session is timing out
05:55 zebran00b I guess everybody is asleep
06:23 * magnuse waves
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06:35 bigbrovar Hi guys, has anyone hosted koha on a digitalocean VPS instance.. I am turn between DO and Linode for hosting my school's instance of koha (which would also run our dspace instance)
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06:46 reiveune hello
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07:20 * magnuse waves again
07:21 * cait waves
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07:21 gaetan_B hello
07:21 wahanui bonjour, gaetan_B
07:22 magnuse @wunder boo
07:22 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on October 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
07:22 magnuse @wunder reno, nv
07:22 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 7.1°C (12:15 AM PDT on October 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
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07:31 samueld hi everybody :-)
07:33 magnuse bonjour samueld
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07:54 reiveune1 test
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09:08 bert Test
09:11 magnuse bert: it works ;-)
09:37 magnuse rda?
09:37 wahanui well, rda is my cataloguing standards are bad, and you should feel bad
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11:19 jcamins In the airport on my way to Reno.
11:19 magnuse jcamins: woohoo!
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11:56 blou good morning koha
12:20 magnuse hiya blou
12:20 magnuse awww... http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]t-kohacon-kohails
12:27 drojf lol
12:27 drojf hei magnuse
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12:30 Herwig Hey Koha - how is Kohacon going
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13:22 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
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13:22 mtompset Greetings, ebegin.
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13:37 drojf what is the best way to merge data in koha with some external data? i'd like to add a field from an externa source to my existing installation for a few thousand records
13:37 drojf i have a feeling that injecting that into sql somehow is probably a bad idea
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13:44 oleonard Hi #koha
13:54 mtompset Greetings, drojf oleonard.
13:55 mtompset Why would adding a random extra field to a table temporarily (I am assuming) be a bad thing?
13:55 mtompset drojf?
13:55 wahanui drojf is from Germany and developing Koha on a raspberry pi!
13:55 * mtompset smirks.
13:55 mtompset mtompset?
13:55 mtompset That's right, I haven't set a reply yet.
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13:56 mtompset Greetings, maximep.
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14:09 cait-m hi #koha
14:10 maximep good morning =)
14:11 cait-m :(
14:11 cait-m :)
14:11 cait-m typoed
14:15 oleonard Hi cait-m
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14:15 * oleonard is thinking about breakfast
14:15 * nengard too
14:16 nengard rangi or cait are you awake? i haven't had a chance to sit down with either of you yet
14:18 oleonard cait-m: Did you stay up as late as rangi last night?
14:18 cait-m nope
14:18 cait-m but woke up agaun
14:18 cait-m this time 4:30
14:19 oleonard Yeah, I tried and failed to get back to sleep after waking up at 5
14:20 cait-m hm could make it downstairs around 8 i guess, but maybe just a coffee or juice for breakfast for ne
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14:22 cait-m nengard?
14:22 wahanui nengard is fast
14:23 nengard yes cait-m
14:23 nengard that would be nice
14:23 rangi im awake now
14:23 nengard 8am with cait?
14:23 nengard meet near the elevators near the hotel lobby?
14:23 rangi yep ill just grab a quick shower
14:23 nengard feel like i've been pulled in 100 directions and haven't had a chance to stop and talk to either of you
14:23 nengard awesome
14:23 nengard see you soon
14:24 oleonard I think you'll need a nap today rangi
14:24 oleonard I might too
14:24 cait-m cya there
14:25 rangi oleonard: yeah, i think you might be right
14:25 * cait-m nods
14:36 drojf hello kohacon people. how is it going? :)
14:38 oleonard I thought yesterday's talks were really good (even rangi's :P )
14:39 oleonard It's great to be here meeting so many folks in person again or for the first time
14:41 oleonard The session on virtualization was over my head but I hope those guys put something on the wiki or something because it sounded useful to others
14:42 * cait-m thinks all presrntations were ptetty good
14:42 oleonard I was surprised that there weren't more complaints/suggestions in the OPAC roundtable
14:42 cait-m and even when rangi s head explodes he makes lots of good points :)
14:42 oleonard ...I guess because I assume people have complaints that I don't hear about
14:45 oleonard And I'm enjoying the view of the mountains out my window :)
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14:47 * ebegin wishes he was at Kohacon
14:48 * oleonard will be back later, wi-fi willing
14:49 * gmcharlt wanders down for breakfast
15:01 reiveune bye
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15:44 Pablo Hi all!
15:44 Pablo Just a simple question: TRUNCATE TABLE auth_header should nicely remove all authorities records..?
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16:09 jatara Quick question: is there a way for someone to place a hold on the next avaialbe item at a particular branch?
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16:26 * cait waves from the conference
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16:35 jcamins At the Denver airport.
16:35 oleonard Hurry jcamins!
16:36 rambuten jcamins: Great!
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16:47 cait jcamins: safe travels! :)
16:48 cait i have some swiss chocolate waiting her for you
16:48 dcook larryb++
16:48 dcook Thanks for the help resetting the root password
16:48 rambuten yea, there's a basket full of candy in the back
16:48 larryb you
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16:48 larryb you're welcome dcook
16:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10884: circulation table: fix odd behavior on checkboxes <[…]a7d7ac7f3a363913a>
17:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #155 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #1450 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1448 2 days 15 hr ago)
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17:07 bgallagher Hi there
17:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10935: (follow-up) adding a line break to fix first list item <[…]eb2ad02867cf938de> / Bug 10935: fix breakage of CSV acq exports when using a non-English translation <[…]dab907166df701102>
17:10 cait hi bag :)
17:10 cait @wunder Konstanz
17:10 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.8°C (7:10 PM CEST on October 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
17:10 cait @wunder Reno, Nevada
17:10 huginn cait: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 8.6°C (10:00 AM PDT on October 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
17:11 bgallagher @wunder 93102
17:11 huginn bgallagher: The current temperature in Westside, Santa Barbara, California is 20.5°C (10:10 AM PDT on October 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
17:12 magnuse @wunder boo
17:12 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (6:50 PM CEST on October 17, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Rising).
17:12 cait heya magnuse :)
17:12 magnuse yeah, expecting snow tomorrow
17:12 magnuse hiya cait!
17:12 magnuse still having fun? :-)
17:12 cait yep tons
17:12 bgallagher Heya magnuse
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17:14 bgallagher Nengard++
17:15 nengard @wunder 78741
17:15 huginn nengard: The current temperature in East Cesar Chavez, Austin, Texas is 20.1°C (12:15 PM CDT on October 17, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
17:16 magnuse hiya bgallagher - you've got your whole posse in reno, right?
17:16 bgallagher Yes sir
17:17 cait yeah, they are everywhere! :)
17:18 bgallagher paul_p++
17:18 bgallagher Good presentations
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17:20 rambuten jcamins: long layover?
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17:45 oleonard Up next is khall talking about Libki, if only everyone would come back in from getting coffee
17:47 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #155: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/155/
17:47 jenkins_koha Jonathan Druart: Bug 10884: circulation table: fix odd behavior on checkboxes
17:47 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10884 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Circulation table: odd behavior on checkboxes
17:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #156 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
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17:54 rangi khall++
17:54 cait khall++
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17:58 rangi meliss/dani :[…]and-maui-nukurau/  <-- my sons birthday party
17:59 nengard hey #koha anyone know who hosts the manual's git repo? gmcharlt or paul_p do you know?
17:59 nengard paul_p says it's them :)
18:00 rangi hmm its on right
18:00 nengard wait ... maybe not
18:00 larryb the server is
18:00 nengard[…]oha.git;a=summary
18:00 gmcharlt yes, kindly donated by ByWater
18:00 rangi yeah, thats bywater
18:00 nengard no
18:00 larryb but I don't have the access to update keys on it
18:00 paul_p paul_p and paul is not sure to be right. BibLibre hosts mailing lists & jenkins, not git
18:00 * paul_p confused...
18:00 wahanui i think confused is "Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
18:00 gmcharlt nengard:[…]ocs.git;a=summary
18:00 nengard (that 'no' was that i gave the wrong link)
18:01 nengard yes gmcharlt - but who hosts that?
18:01 rangi you do
18:01 larryb nengard, we do
18:01 gmcharlt you do :)
18:01 rangi :)
18:01 nengard so ... larryb ...
18:01 nengard :) hehe
18:01 gmcharlt larryb: quick! run!
18:01 meliss rangi your son's birthday looks awesome!  He looked so happy.
18:01 bgallagher Heh
18:01 gmcharlt ;)
18:01 paul_p at BibLibre we often say "you know you're a geek when you IRC with someone that is less than 2 meters from you" :D
18:01 nengard larryb loves me :)
18:01 gmcharlt paul_p: was there every any doubt? :)
18:01 dcook paul_p: hehe
18:02 rangi nengard: gmcharlt and I mostly look after git on there
18:02 bgallagher So true paul_p
18:02 larryb we're hosting the server, but I don't admin the git. I don't think I even have admin rights to the repo
18:02 gmcharlt nengard: note that if you need to register a new SSH key, rangi and I can take care of that
18:02 gmcharlt larryb: right
18:02 nengard I have a key - don't need to register a new one
18:02 gmcharlt nengard: so, how can we help you?
18:02 rangi meliss: yeah, it was a fun day
18:02 nengard i'll email it along
18:02 gmcharlt k
18:02 nengard just so long as my old key doesn't get wiped out - that one is for my other computer
18:03 gmcharlt nengard: no worries
18:03 nengard wah hoo! :) thank you all
18:11 magnuse community++
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18:18 * oleonard_ bounces between wireless networks as one or the other kicks me off
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18:21 tcohen hi #koha, exciting keynotes today
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18:23 magnuse ¡hola, tcohen!
18:25 tcohen hola magnuse
18:25 tcohen where are u??
18:25 tcohen i was hoping to finally meet you
18:25 * cait waves to bgkriegel on skype :D
18:25 magnuse at home...
18:25 magnuse tcohen: hopefully in cordoba next year :-)
18:26 dcook \o/
18:26 tcohen we hope so magnuse!
18:26 * magnuse wonders what it looked like when rangi's brain exploded
18:26 magnuse tcohen: :-)
18:26 rangi it wasnt pretty
18:27 magnuse i really hope to make it happen, but we will see. somehow argentina feels further away than nz. no idea why that is
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18:30 * magnuse does not trust rangi's exploded brain to give an accurate picture of the explosion ;-)
18:31 rangi heh
18:33 cait magnuse: he is... exaggerating :) it was alright
18:33 cait noone was harmed, we didn't need the cleaning crew to come in and people liked it :)
18:34 magnuse "people liked [watching rangi's brain explode]" - lol! :-)
18:34 cait Ashimema++
18:34 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #156: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/156/
18:34 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10935: fix breakage of CSV acq exports when using a non-English translation
18:34 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10935: (follow-up) adding a line break to fix first list item
18:34 rambuten poor rangi
18:34 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10935 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , CSV for basket and basketgroup are broken when translated
18:34 tcohen its weird that we all enjoyed his keynote a lot, and he thinks it was wrong
18:35 cait tcohen: he just wants attention... :P
18:35 magnuse and sympathy, perhaps? ;-)
18:35 rangi i want sleep
18:35 rangi and coffee
18:35 rangi :)
18:35 magnuse "is this a piece of your brain?"
18:38 magnuse
18:40 dcook sleep and caffeine sounds like an awesome idea
18:40 * dcook isn't sure that he'll be coherent this afternoon
18:41 * magnuse thought sleep *and* caffeine was a bad combination in general?
18:43 dcook Maybe one or the other, or one then the other ;)
18:46 * cait sighs trying to make the qa tools be good and work
18:48 Ashimema aww.. qa getting you down today cait++
18:48 Ashimema aww.. qa getting you down today cait
18:48 cait setting up all my tools again is kind of no fun today
18:50 rambuten lunch plans?
18:50 oleonard Who tried the buffet yesterday?
18:50 rambuten me
18:51 cait we did too
18:51 rambuten good, but overkill
18:51 oleonard Overkill is on the menu everywhere!
18:51 Ashimema agreed.. good but overkill
18:51 cait oleonard: yeah that's the problem
18:52 cait i think it was like... 13 dollars?
18:52 cait not quite sure
18:52 rambuten Everything is priced starting at $13
18:52 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
18:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1450: FIXED in 1 hr 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1450/
18:52 Ashimema I fancy seeing the sun.. anyone got any plans to go outside the casino confines?
18:52 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10884: circulation table: fix odd behavior on checkboxes
18:52 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10935: fix breakage of CSV acq exports when using a non-English translation
18:52 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10935: (follow-up) adding a line break to fix first list item
18:52 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10884 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Circulation table: odd behavior on checkboxes
18:52 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10935 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , CSV for basket and basketgroup are broken when translated
18:53 oleonard Indian food?
18:53 rambuten I'm all for going out
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18:55 magnuse have fun #koha!
18:55 Ashimema Indian... ?
18:55 Ashimema where?
18:55 dcook Mmm Indian sounds good
18:55 rambuten Indian is good. Thai is good.
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18:56 tcohen IndianFood++
18:56 * oleonard switches to analog mode
18:56 tcohen the rapid bus can take us to a thai place in 3 minutes
18:56 Ashimema Awesome.. sounds like Indian is a winner... so anyone know where?
18:56 * dcook has no idea but powering down
18:57 tcohen and there's an indian place too
18:57 Ashimema time to turn physical... leaving the digital world
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19:38 jcamins In Reno.
19:47 gmcharlt yay!
19:48 cait yay :)
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20:24 ebegin It is so quiet here... It looks like everybody are elsewhere... I'm wondering where... ;)
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20:25 ebegin Did any body have problem deleting a basket group from the acquisition module ?
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20:27 ebegin Hi NateC, meliss and dani !
20:28 meliss hi ebegin
20:28 NateC ello!
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20:59 * magnuse looks out the window, sees snow, wanders off to hibernate
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21:13 rambuten @seen jcamins
21:13 huginn rambuten: jcamins was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 34 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <jcamins> In Reno.
21:13 rambuten ping jcamins
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21:24 eythian mtompset: yeah, that's annoying, it's bad and wrong.
21:25 eythian I think we just don't use that setting.
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21:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #374: SUCCESS in 11 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/374/
21:33 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: testing
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21:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #375: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/375/
21:48 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: Revert "testing"
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22:04 jcamins rambuten: I'm here now.
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22:42 oleonard Hi again #koha
22:42 oleonard Looks like our next presenter is a no-show?
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22:56 nengard can someone in the back please close the door?
22:57 eythian sorry, my bad.
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22:59 nengard anyone in the back at KohaCon who can close the doors - it's kind of distracting
23:00 nengard Thank you!!!
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23:04 rangi I can see this being super useful
23:04 bgallagher Yup
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23:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10535: (follow-up) wrap Budgets.t in transaction <[…]4b6c52e3dd0413e11> / Bug 10535: (follow-up) add test case <[…]6ae8927d309b1ec19>
23:16 jenkins_koha Starting build #157 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
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23:23 dpk Is kyle at KohaCon?
23:24 rambuten yes
23:25 dpk If you see Kyle, point him at Doug Kingston ( re bug 10558.
23:25 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10558 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Convert records table in to ajax DataTable
23:25 rambuten bug 10662
23:25 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P5 - low, ---, dcook, In Discussion , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client
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23:38 druthb o/
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23:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10380: (follow-up) update POD to fully reflect change to output_pref() <[…]1c4a04a6de4e3979e> / Bug 10380: (follow-up) update two more uses of output_pref() <[…]2aa9170d0c8d8057c> / Bug 10380: (follow-up) update some uses of output_pref() <http://git.koha
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