Time Nick Message 23:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10380: (follow-up) update POD to fully reflect change to output_pref() <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8a6793af028639f8a8d3de51c4a04a6de4e3979e> / Bug 10380: (follow-up) update two more uses of output_pref() <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4b863c1b361e967efbdda792aa9170d0c8d8057c> / Bug 10380: (follow-up) update some uses of output_pref() <http://git.koha 23:38 druthb o/ 23:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P5 - low, ---, dcook, In Discussion , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client 23:25 rambuten bug 10662 23:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10558 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Convert records table in manage-marc-import.pl to ajax DataTable 23:25 dpk If you see Kyle, point him at Doug Kingston (dpk@efdss.org) re bug 10558. 23:24 rambuten yes 23:23 dpk Is kyle at KohaCon? 23:19 jenkins_koha Starting build #1451 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 23:16 jenkins_koha Starting build #157 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 23:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10535: (follow-up) wrap Budgets.t in transaction <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=969669bb1e2cb08bbfc91334b6c52e3dd0413e11> / Bug 10535: (follow-up) add test case <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a384cc64367647aa519c196ae8927d309b1ec19> 23:04 bgallagher Yup 23:04 rangi I can see this being super useful 23:00 nengard Thank you!!! 22:59 nengard anyone in the back at KohaCon who can close the doors - it's kind of distracting 22:57 eythian sorry, my bad. 22:56 nengard can someone in the back please close the door? 22:42 oleonard Looks like our next presenter is a no-show? 22:42 oleonard Hi again #koha 22:04 jcamins rambuten: I'm here now. 21:48 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: Revert "testing" 21:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #375: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/375/ 21:48 jenkins_koha Starting build #375 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:33 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: testing 21:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #374: SUCCESS in 11 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/374/ 21:33 jenkins_koha Starting build #374 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:25 eythian I think we just don't use that setting. 21:24 eythian mtompset: yeah, that's annoying, it's bad and wrong. 21:13 rambuten ping jcamins 21:13 huginn rambuten: jcamins was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 34 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <jcamins> In Reno. 21:13 rambuten @seen jcamins 20:59 * magnuse looks out the window, sees snow, wanders off to hibernate 20:28 NateC ello! 20:28 meliss hi ebegin 20:27 ebegin Hi NateC, meliss and dani ! 20:25 ebegin Did any body have problem deleting a basket group from the acquisition module ? 20:24 ebegin It is so quiet here... It looks like everybody are elsewhere... I'm wondering where... ;) 19:48 cait yay :) 19:47 gmcharlt yay! 19:38 jcamins In Reno. 18:57 Ashimema time to turn physical... leaving the digital world 18:57 tcohen and there's an indian place too 18:56 * dcook has no idea but powering down 18:56 Ashimema Awesome.. sounds like Indian is a winner... so anyone know where? 18:56 tcohen the rapid bus can take us to a thai place in 3 minutes 18:56 * oleonard switches to analog mode 18:56 tcohen IndianFood++ 18:55 rambuten Indian is good. Thai is good. 18:55 dcook Mmm Indian sounds good 18:55 Ashimema where? 18:55 Ashimema Indian... ? 18:55 magnuse have fun #koha! 18:53 rambuten I'm all for going out 18:53 oleonard Indian food? 18:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10935 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , CSV for basket and basketgroup are broken when translated 18:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10884 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Circulation table: odd behavior on checkboxes 18:52 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10935: (follow-up) adding a line break to fix first list item 18:52 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10935: fix breakage of CSV acq exports when using a non-English translation 18:52 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10884: circulation table: fix odd behavior on checkboxes 18:52 Ashimema I fancy seeing the sun.. anyone got any plans to go outside the casino confines? 18:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1450: FIXED in 1 hr 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1450/ 18:52 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 18:52 rambuten Everything is priced starting at $13 18:52 cait not quite sure 18:52 cait i think it was like... 13 dollars? 18:51 cait oleonard: yeah that's the problem 18:51 Ashimema agreed.. good but overkill 18:51 oleonard Overkill is on the menu everywhere! 18:51 rambuten good, but overkill 18:51 cait we did too 18:50 rambuten me 18:50 oleonard Who tried the buffet yesterday? 18:50 rambuten lunch plans? 18:48 cait setting up all my tools again is kind of no fun today 18:48 Ashimema aww.. qa getting you down today cait 18:48 Ashimema aww.. qa getting you down today cait++ 18:46 * cait sighs trying to make the qa tools be good and work 18:43 dcook Maybe one or the other, or one then the other ;) 18:41 * magnuse thought sleep *and* caffeine was a bad combination in general? 18:40 * dcook isn't sure that he'll be coherent this afternoon 18:40 dcook sleep and caffeine sounds like an awesome idea 18:38 magnuse http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeOnLwi9CtQ 18:35 magnuse "is this a piece of your brain?" 18:35 rangi :) 18:35 rangi and coffee 18:35 rangi i want sleep 18:35 magnuse and sympathy, perhaps? ;-) 18:35 cait tcohen: he just wants attention... :P 18:34 tcohen its weird that we all enjoyed his keynote a lot, and he thinks it was wrong 18:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10935 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , CSV for basket and basketgroup are broken when translated 18:34 rambuten poor rangi http://tinyurl.com/n677ky4 18:34 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10935: (follow-up) adding a line break to fix first list item 18:34 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10935: fix breakage of CSV acq exports when using a non-English translation 18:34 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #156: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/156/ 18:34 cait Ashimema++ 18:34 magnuse "people liked [watching rangi's brain explode]" - lol! :-) 18:33 cait noone was harmed, we didn't need the cleaning crew to come in and people liked it :) 18:33 cait magnuse: he is... exaggerating :) it was alright 18:31 rangi heh 18:30 * magnuse does not trust rangi's exploded brain to give an accurate picture of the explosion ;-) 18:27 magnuse i really hope to make it happen, but we will see. somehow argentina feels further away than nz. no idea why that is 18:26 rangi it wasnt pretty 18:26 magnuse tcohen: :-) 18:26 * magnuse wonders what it looked like when rangi's brain exploded 18:26 tcohen we hope so magnuse! 18:26 dcook \o/ 18:25 magnuse tcohen: hopefully in cordoba next year :-) 18:25 magnuse at home... 18:25 * cait waves to bgkriegel on skype :D 18:25 tcohen i was hoping to finally meet you 18:25 tcohen where are u?? 18:25 tcohen hola magnuse 18:23 magnuse ¡hola, tcohen! 18:21 tcohen hi #koha, exciting keynotes today 18:18 * oleonard_ bounces between wireless networks as one or the other kicks me off 18:11 magnuse community++ 18:03 nengard wah hoo! :) thank you all 18:03 gmcharlt nengard: no worries 18:02 nengard just so long as my old key doesn't get wiped out - that one is for my other computer 18:02 gmcharlt k 18:02 nengard i'll email it along 18:02 rangi meliss: yeah, it was a fun day 18:02 gmcharlt nengard: so, how can we help you? 18:02 nengard I have a key - don't need to register a new one 18:02 gmcharlt larryb: right 18:02 gmcharlt nengard: note that if you need to register a new SSH key, rangi and I can take care of that 18:02 larryb we're hosting the server, but I don't admin the git. I don't think I even have admin rights to the repo 18:02 bgallagher So true paul_p 18:02 rangi nengard: gmcharlt and I mostly look after git on there 18:01 dcook paul_p: hehe 18:01 gmcharlt paul_p: was there every any doubt? :) 18:01 nengard larryb loves me :) 18:01 paul_p at BibLibre we often say "you know you're a geek when you IRC with someone that is less than 2 meters from you" :D 18:01 gmcharlt ;) 18:01 bgallagher Heh 18:01 meliss rangi your son's birthday looks awesome! He looked so happy. 18:01 gmcharlt larryb: quick! run! 18:01 nengard :) hehe 18:01 nengard so ... larryb ... 18:01 rangi :) 18:01 gmcharlt you do :) 18:01 larryb nengard, we do 18:01 rangi you do 18:01 nengard yes gmcharlt - but who hosts that? 18:00 nengard (that 'no' was that i gave the wrong link) 18:00 gmcharlt nengard: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=summary 18:00 wahanui i think confused is "Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?" 18:00 * paul_p confused... 18:00 paul_p paul_p and paul is not sure to be right. BibLibre hosts mailing lists & jenkins, not git 18:00 larryb but I don't have the access to update keys on it 18:00 nengard no 18:00 rangi yeah, thats bywater 18:00 gmcharlt yes, kindly donated by ByWater 18:00 nengard http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=summary 18:00 larryb the server is git.k-c.org 18:00 nengard wait ... maybe not 18:00 rangi hmm its on git.koha-community.org right 17:59 nengard paul_p says it's them :) 17:59 nengard hey #koha anyone know who hosts the manual's git repo? gmcharlt or paul_p do you know? 17:58 rangi meliss/dani : http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2013/06/02/te-po-atarau-and-maui-nukurau/ <-- my sons birthday party 17:54 cait khall++ 17:54 rangi khall++ 17:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #156 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10884 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Circulation table: odd behavior on checkboxes 17:47 jenkins_koha Jonathan Druart: Bug 10884: circulation table: fix odd behavior on checkboxes 17:47 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #155: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/155/ 17:45 oleonard Up next is khall talking about Libki, if only everyone would come back in from getting coffee 17:20 rambuten jcamins: long layover? 17:18 bgallagher Good presentations 17:18 bgallagher paul_p++ 17:17 cait yeah, they are everywhere! :) 17:16 bgallagher Yes sir 17:16 magnuse hiya bgallagher - you've got your whole posse in reno, right? 17:15 huginn nengard: The current temperature in East Cesar Chavez, Austin, Texas is 20.1°C (12:15 PM CDT on October 17, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling). 17:15 nengard @wunder 78741 17:14 bgallagher Nengard++ 17:12 bgallagher Heya magnuse 17:12 cait yep tons 17:12 magnuse still having fun? :-) 17:12 magnuse hiya cait! 17:12 magnuse yeah, expecting snow tomorrow 17:12 cait heya magnuse :) 17:12 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (6:50 PM CEST on October 17, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Rising). 17:12 magnuse @wunder boo 17:11 huginn bgallagher: The current temperature in Westside, Santa Barbara, California is 20.5°C (10:10 AM PDT on October 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 17:11 bgallagher @wunder 93102 17:10 huginn cait: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 8.6°C (10:00 AM PDT on October 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 17:10 cait @wunder Reno, Nevada 17:10 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.8°C (7:10 PM CEST on October 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 17:10 cait @wunder Konstanz 17:10 cait hi bag :) 17:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10935: (follow-up) adding a line break to fix first list item <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b1e4db6be9bbb18c07c16f0eb2ad02867cf938de> / Bug 10935: fix breakage of CSV acq exports when using a non-English translation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6bf848303fd4a0d827cc688dab907166df701102> 17:07 bgallagher Hi there 17:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #1450 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1448 2 days 15 hr ago) 17:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #155 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 16:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10884: circulation table: fix odd behavior on checkboxes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fa3903fe3d4955e2fd36613a7d7ac7f3a363913a> 16:48 larryb you're welcome dcook 16:48 larryb you 16:48 rambuten yea, there's a basket full of candy in the back 16:48 dcook Thanks for the help resetting the root password 16:48 dcook larryb++ 16:48 cait i have some swiss chocolate waiting her for you 16:47 cait jcamins: safe travels! :) 16:36 rambuten jcamins: Great! 16:35 oleonard Hurry jcamins! 16:35 jcamins At the Denver airport. 16:26 * cait waves from the conference 16:09 jatara Quick question: is there a way for someone to place a hold on the next avaialbe item at a particular branch? 15:44 Pablo Just a simple question: TRUNCATE TABLE auth_header should nicely remove all authorities records..? 15:44 Pablo Hi all! 15:01 reiveune bye 14:49 * gmcharlt wanders down for breakfast 14:48 * oleonard will be back later, wi-fi willing 14:47 * ebegin wishes he was at Kohacon 14:45 oleonard And I'm enjoying the view of the mountains out my window :) 14:42 oleonard ...I guess because I assume people have complaints that I don't hear about 14:42 cait-m and even when rangi s head explodes he makes lots of good points :) 14:42 oleonard I was surprised that there weren't more complaints/suggestions in the OPAC roundtable 14:42 * cait-m thinks all presrntations were ptetty good 14:41 oleonard The session on virtualization was over my head but I hope those guys put something on the wiki or something because it sounded useful to others 14:39 oleonard It's great to be here meeting so many folks in person again or for the first time 14:38 oleonard I thought yesterday's talks were really good (even rangi's :P ) 14:36 drojf hello kohacon people. how is it going? :) 14:25 * cait-m nods 14:25 rangi oleonard: yeah, i think you might be right 14:24 cait-m cya there 14:24 oleonard I might too 14:24 oleonard I think you'll need a nap today rangi 14:23 nengard see you soon 14:23 nengard awesome 14:23 nengard feel like i've been pulled in 100 directions and haven't had a chance to stop and talk to either of you 14:23 rangi yep ill just grab a quick shower 14:23 nengard meet near the elevators near the hotel lobby? 14:23 nengard 8am with cait? 14:23 rangi im awake now 14:23 nengard that would be nice 14:23 nengard yes cait-m 14:22 wahanui nengard is fast 14:22 cait-m nengard? 14:20 cait-m hm could make it downstairs around 8 i guess, but maybe just a coffee or juice for breakfast for ne 14:19 oleonard Yeah, I tried and failed to get back to sleep after waking up at 5 14:18 cait-m this time 4:30 14:18 cait-m but woke up agaun 14:18 cait-m nope 14:18 oleonard cait-m: Did you stay up as late as rangi last night? 14:16 nengard rangi or cait are you awake? i haven't had a chance to sit down with either of you yet 14:15 * nengard too 14:15 * oleonard is thinking about breakfast 14:15 oleonard Hi cait-m 14:11 cait-m typoed 14:11 cait-m :) 14:11 cait-m :( 14:10 maximep good morning =) 14:09 cait-m hi #koha 13:56 mtompset Greetings, maximep. 13:55 mtompset That's right, I haven't set a reply yet. 13:55 mtompset mtompset? 13:55 * mtompset smirks. 13:55 wahanui drojf is from Germany and developing Koha on a raspberry pi! 13:55 mtompset drojf? 13:55 mtompset Why would adding a random extra field to a table temporarily (I am assuming) be a bad thing? 13:54 mtompset Greetings, drojf oleonard. 13:44 oleonard Hi #koha 13:37 drojf i have a feeling that injecting that into sql somehow is probably a bad idea 13:37 drojf what is the best way to merge data in koha with some external data? i'd like to add a field from an externa source to my existing installation for a few thousand records 13:22 mtompset Greetings, ebegin. 13:22 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 12:30 Herwig Hey Koha - how is Kohacon going 12:27 drojf hei magnuse 12:27 drojf lol 12:20 magnuse awww... http://kohadevreactions.tumblr.com/post/64285172363/the-lobby-of-the-hotel-at-kohacon-kohails 12:20 magnuse hiya blou 11:56 blou good morning koha 11:19 magnuse jcamins: woohoo! 11:19 jcamins In the airport on my way to Reno. 09:37 wahanui well, rda is my cataloguing standards are bad, and you should feel bad 09:37 magnuse rda? 09:11 magnuse bert: it works ;-) 09:08 bert Test 07:54 reiveune1 test 07:33 magnuse bonjour samueld 07:31 samueld hi everybody :-) 07:22 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 7.1°C (12:15 AM PDT on October 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa (Falling). 07:22 magnuse @wunder reno, nv 07:22 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on October 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). 07:22 magnuse @wunder boo 07:21 wahanui bonjour, gaetan_B 07:21 gaetan_B hello 07:21 * cait waves 07:20 * magnuse waves again 06:46 reiveune hello 06:35 bigbrovar Hi guys, has anyone hosted koha on a digitalocean VPS instance.. I am turn between DO and Linode for hosting my school's instance of koha (which would also run our dspace instance) 06:23 * magnuse waves 05:55 zebran00b I guess everybody is asleep 05:50 zebran00b and now every click through my session is timing out 05:35 zebran00b hi gang - another admin restored our koha server to a backup, and now all the item data doesn't appear in the records. The item data is still there somewhere because it works in search and checkin/checkout, and if you "edit items" the data is there, but it doesn't appear in the biblio record. 04:49 mtompset Well, have a great day, #koha. 04:39 mtompset eythian: Any ideas for avoiding hard coded http://'s and still getting https:// nicely? 04:36 mtompset It's rather annoying that servername/path/to/something.pl is turned into http://whateverIwasJustOn/servername/path/to/something.pl, by default. 04:33 mtompset http://http:// nice. 04:26 mtompset now for that other strange problem... 04:23 mtompset time to clean up my patch. 04:23 mtompset I don't even use $debug in the whole module. 04:23 mtompset What was I thinking?! 04:22 eythian heh there you go 04:21 mtompset That's an unexpected freaky side effect. 04:21 mtompset I put readonly on debug in one of my patches. 04:21 mtompset I have an external authentication patch. 04:20 eythian oh? 04:20 mtompset My bad. :) 04:20 mtompset BINGO! 04:16 eythian Have you searched the code for readonly? 04:16 eythian hmm, dunno then. But presumably something is setting it read only. 04:16 mtompset Commented out in one, nothing in the other. 04:15 eythian nothing along those lines? 04:15 eythian etc/koha-httpd.conf:# SetEnv DEBUG "1" 04:15 eythian $ grep -ri debug etc 04:15 mtompset I'm thinking, the only good way to know for sure if to rebuild a distribution and put it up. 04:15 mtompset No DEBUG defined in either. 04:14 eythian could it be coming from the apache environment? 04:14 mtompset Nope cgi_debug and debug are both identical. 04:08 mtompset Good point. 04:07 eythian You're testing debug code, so you should make sure your debug settings are identical. 04:07 mtompset I can only replicate it on a build from master a couple days ago. 04:06 mtompset but I can't replicate the problem on my local VM. 04:06 eythian fix the problem, not the symptom. 04:06 eythian I'm not sold on it needing to be readonly. 04:06 eythian it's debug everywhere else in the app. 04:05 mtompset so a "my $local_debug = $debug || $cgi_debug;" and tweak other lines? 04:05 eythian having a central (to the module) debug indicator is much preferable. 04:04 eythian yeah, but there may have been more $debug stuff, or there may be in the future. 04:04 mtompset but should the assignment in that module affect outside that module?! 04:04 eythian oh 04:04 eythian It's saying "if debug is not set, set it to $cgi_debug" 04:04 eythian the assignment is the point. 04:04 eythian ? 04:03 mtompset and then no need to assign anything. 04:03 mtompset The weird thing is, the $debug is only used in one place... I don't understand why they didn't just put the $debug || $cgi_debug on that line. 04:02 eythian yes I do 04:02 eythian oh wait 04:02 eythian I don't see the point of the "$debug or" bit though. 04:02 eythian it's smarter than that, that would be a syntax error 04:01 mtompset Because I could see how it might barf if it tries to assign $cgi_debug to ($debug or $debug) 04:00 mtompset Would parenthesis help clarify it? 04:00 mtompset The line reads "$debug or $debug = $cgi_debug;" 03:57 eythian It might be, don't know. 03:56 mtompset but the same code in a local VM doesn't barf like that. 03:56 mtompset Because a build I used off of master gives me "Modification of a read-only value attempted at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/tools/viewlog.pl line 46" 03:55 eythian mtompset: not sure where it gets defined actually. 03:55 AnDrew__ bye. 03:55 AnDrew__ thanks mtompset. 03:55 mtompset eythian: Is $debug declared as a readonly variable somewhere? 03:54 mtompset I mean everything. 03:54 mtompset I believe that will list everyone you need to CPAN, if you decide to CPAN everything. 03:53 mtompset ./koha_perl_deps.pl -a -b 03:53 mtompset oh... 03:53 AnDrew__ wish me luck. :) 03:53 AnDrew__ thanks for the pointers... 03:53 AnDrew__ will check with you guys again later.... 03:53 AnDrew__ thanks mtompset.... I will go offline now... to use vpn accesss to my server... 03:53 mtompset After finding 18 libraries not in default repositories, I gave up. 03:52 mtompset I did try to get Koha on to CentOS once. 03:52 AnDrew__ that you suggested.... 03:52 AnDrew__ mtompset, I am also referring to that documentation part as well 03:51 AnDrew__ yea... I m having the hard time now... 03:50 * mtompset cringes, "I think that is probably good, because it is hard to remember what you did or didn't CPAN." 03:50 eythian I'd almost say that if you're going to be CPANning 75% of everything, you may as well do 100% 03:49 mtompset However, there are other dependencies that may not be installed in newer versions, which may require hunting for RPMs (prefer method) or worse CPAN'ing them (horrible reality). 03:48 mtompset Someone obviously got 3.8.6 to work on Red Hat: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Redhat_Enterprise_6 03:47 AnDrew__ eythian, sad case... we don't have it here. :( 03:46 eythian *licenses. 03:46 eythian You also have Debian license. 03:46 AnDrew__ unfortunately we only have rh liccenses 03:46 mtompset But the majority of people do not install from red hat. 03:46 AnDrew__ I notice lots of recommendation on debian 03:45 mtompset Koha can be made to run on Red Hat. 03:45 AnDrew__ oh.... please don't tell me RH is not supported.... 03:45 mtompset Koha runs really well under Debian or other Debian-based Linuxes. 03:45 mtompset Okay... RH. :( 03:45 AnDrew__ I am using red hat 6 03:44 mtompset Okay, there is a lot of bad documenation out there. 03:44 AnDrew__ sorry.... I was not aware if there's an actual documentation 03:44 AnDrew__ searched the web.... 03:43 mtompset What version of Linux are you using, AnDrew__? 03:42 mtompset Where did you get the documentation you are referencing? 03:41 mtompset Thank you, wahanui. I was asking AnDrew__. 03:41 wahanui it has been said that documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ 03:41 mtompset what documentation? 03:41 AnDrew__ on how to setup koha 03:41 AnDrew__ was looking into the documentation 03:41 mtompset why are you using cpan? 03:39 Andrew_ do I execute this command "cpan" or "cpan /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/CPAN/Config.pm initialized." ? 03:39 Andrew_ do I execute this command "cpan 03:38 Andrew_ for the cpan initialization 03:38 Andrew_ hi guys. I m newbie to koha. would be great if someone can show me some pointers 03:19 ibeardslee was a beautiful day out there at lunch time 03:16 eythian I don't remember when I last saw 18°C in this country. Can't have been since last summer, anyway. 03:10 mtompset typhoon? 03:00 eythian holy crap what happened 03:00 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (3:30 PM NZDT on October 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 03:00 eythian @wunder nzwn 01:43 nick12254353 it works now 01:43 nick12254353 thank you 01:43 nick12254353 YAY! 01:42 jcamins Yes. 01:41 nick12254353 do i just write Listen 8080 01:41 nick12254353 i see it has Listen 80 01:40 nick12254353 what do i write to do that? 01:40 nick12254353 ehe nope 01:40 jcamins Did you set it up to listen on port 8080 in /etc/apache2/ports.conf? 01:39 nick12254353 but if i go to ip address or server name :8080 it doesnt work 01:39 nick12254353 and opac is on *80 01:39 nick12254353 #intranet virtualhost is set to *8080 01:39 nick12254353 thats how it is now i thnik 01:38 jcamins nick12254353: in order to just use 80 and 8080, all you have to do is configure Apache to serve the virtual hosts on different ports. 01:37 nick12254353 thanks though 01:37 nick12254353 Oh, ok 01:37 mtompset Sorry... I don't have time to help now... my work calls. :( 01:36 nick12254353 i think it goes through dhcp 01:36 mtompset perhaps you are using DHCP? 01:36 nick12254353 how do i get it to work like that? instead of having all this -intra stuff 01:36 mtompset different ip address. 01:36 nick12254353 it just used 80 and 8080 and it worked fine 01:36 nick12254353 i know ive setup with koha 3.2 01:36 nick12254353 hm 01:35 mtompset Because you'll need to do that for EVERY machine. 01:35 mtompset And adding it into HOSTS is the wrong way to do it. 01:34 mtompset Well, I don't maintain your machines, your sysadmin should be doing it. 01:33 nick12254353 so my sys admin said to add into my host file the ip addres of my server then libary-intra 01:30 wizzyrea \o/ winning 01:29 nick12254353 Ok thanks 01:29 mtompset You need a DNS entry, and a static IP address for your linux box. 01:29 nick12254353 what do i tell my sys admiun 01:29 nick12254353 oh 01:29 nick12254353 win 7 google chrome 01:29 mtompset Then I can't help you. 01:29 nick12254353 No 01:28 mtompset Are the other machines Ubuntu too? 01:28 nick12254353 what do i edit /etc/hosts to? 01:28 mtompset This is why you need to talk to your system adminsitrator or network administrator about this. 01:28 nick12254353 but id like to configure from a diffrent computer, where, theres an actual gui 01:28 mtompset Not unless you modify the equivalent /etc/hosts file on every other machine. 01:28 nick12254353 i know, ive used it beffore 01:27 nick12254353 can i get to it from google chrome on another computer? 01:27 mtompset Because you can't get OPAC until you've finished the install. 01:27 mtompset That's correct. 01:27 nick12254353 but 01:27 nick12254353 libary-intra goes to koha installer 01:27 mtompset Then try lynx libary-intra 01:27 nick12254353 did that 01:27 mtompset No, sudo service apache2 restart 01:27 mtompset Because you probably don't have Listen:8080 in /etc/apache2/ports.conf 01:26 nick12254353 And now what should i go to? URL 01:26 mtompset Yes. 01:24 nick12254353 should i change that to 80? 01:24 nick12254353 Oh! # intranet virtualhost is *8080 01:23 nick12254353 i dont really want to type it all unless nessicary 01:23 nick12254353 is there something inpiticular you need from it? 01:22 mtompset Sure... sounds like a plan. 01:21 nick12254353 and im putting /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/libary 01:21 nick12254353 Yes 01:21 mtompset So, just go there, change the channel to #koha, put in your nick, and then type anything... just you get an idea of how it works. 01:21 nick12254353 ok 01:20 mtompset okay... first, we need to get you to use http://paste.koha-community.org 01:20 nick12254353 i am bac 01:15 mtompset http://youtu.be/VF4HBjRzOD0 01:15 mtompset Hmmm... I think Koha means something in some other language. 01:08 mtompset It's too psychodelic, and not enough groovy. :P 01:06 wizzyrea What retro 60's music isn't your favorite :P 01:05 mtompset Not my favorite style of music, but it's an okay tune. 01:04 wizzyrea I aim to please. 01:03 wizzyrea hehe 01:03 mtompset http://youtu.be/LQj--Kjn0z8 -- You triggered this musical flashback. 01:02 wizzyrea I think this tea was brewed on the face of the sun. 01:02 wizzyrea yea figured I'd just leave that there for him 01:01 mtompset But nick12254353 is probably gone for supper. 01:01 mtompset The <VirtualHost *:80> 00:56 wizzyrea and make sure the first line says *:80 and not *:8080 00:56 wizzyrea so I'd check your /etc/apache2/sites-available/libary scroll down to where you see intranet 00:55 wizzyrea possibly your config is listening for libary-intra on 8080 and not 80 00:51 mtompset can you cut and paste your /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/libary file to http://paste.koha-community.org -- NOT THE CHANNEL. 00:50 nick12254353 Ok great, but i'll be 20 min now, im actually going for dinner 00:50 mtompset DON'T promise results. 00:50 nick12254353 :( 00:50 mtompset I promise results. 00:49 mtompset You have some apache configuration issue as well, it would seem. 00:49 mtompset right... 00:49 nick12254353 it goes to the maint. page * 00:49 nick12254353 it goes to the main. page 00:49 nick12254353 really 00:48 wahanui mtompset: I forgot really 00:48 mtompset wahanui: forget really 00:48 wahanui really is probably off now 00:48 mtompset really? 00:48 nick12254353 it goes to opac 00:47 mtompset And get the koha web-install started. 00:47 mtompset Then you should be able to: lynx libary-intra 00:46 mtompset Oops... libary-intra (since you made that typo) 00:46 mtompset 127.0.0.1 libary library-intra 00:46 mtompset I would *ADD* 00:46 nick12254353 Should i? 00:46 nick12254353 Should it? 00:45 wahanui mtompset: I forgot mtompset 00:45 mtompset wahanui: forget mtompset 00:45 wahanui it has been said that mtompset is fighting a test writing learning curve to get code in before feature slush. 00:45 nick12254353 mtompset 00:44 huginn BobB: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 17.5°C (5:30 PM PDT on October 16, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Steady). 00:44 BobB @wunder reno, nv 00:42 nick12254353 should i change these 00:42 nick12254353 127.0.1.1 servername 00:42 nick12254353 127.0.0.1 localhost 00:42 nick12254353 mine just has 00:42 nick12254353 i looked at the hosts 00:41 mtompset there? 00:41 mtompset there is a script to rebuild with using nozebra 00:40 mtompset There is a lot of clean up that could be done. 00:40 mtompset there? 00:40 wahanui mtompset: I forgot there 00:40 mtompset wahanui forget there 00:40 wahanui i heard there was a lot of clean up that could be done. 00:40 mtompset there? 00:40 wahanui rumour has it there is a script to rebuild with using nozebra 00:40 mtompset there? 00:40 wahanui somebody said there was a lot of clean up that could be done. 00:40 mtompset there? 00:39 wahanui there is a lot of clean up that could be done. 00:39 mtompset there? 00:39 wahanui okay, mtompset. 00:39 mtompset However, there is also an edit of /etc/hosts to compensate for a temporary non-existence of a DNS entry. 00:39 mtompset There is use of lynx too. 00:39 nick12254353 ok, ill try again' 00:38 mtompset If you follow those instructions, it should work. 00:38 mtompset You are using Ubuntu... 00:38 mtompset http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages 00:38 nick12254353 http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian is what i used ... 00:37 nick12254353 and it says unable to access document 00:37 nick12254353 i usede lynx to try and access it from the server 00:37 wahanui packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 00:37 mtompset packages? 00:37 wahanui it has been said that ubuntu is a debian-based OS and Koha has shiny new ubuntu intructions. 00:37 mtompset ubuntu? 00:37 nick12254353 i have ubuntu 12.04 00:36 nick12254353 No gui 00:36 mtompset Hmmm... do you have a gui? 00:33 nick12254353 Thats ok 00:30 mtompset Sorry I couldn't help more. 00:30 nick12254353 20~ minutes maybe 00:30 nick12254353 i have to go, but ill be back later, thanks for the help 00:29 nick12254353 oh 00:29 nick12254353 but right now thats not setup 00:29 mtompset They would be able to help you set up a local network DNS entry so that the machine is known by all the other machines on the network. 00:29 nick12254353 What were planning on doing is that guys just gonna forward the ip to the server name 00:28 mtompset so, who is your system/network administrator? 00:28 nick12254353 its going to be over a local network 00:28 mtompset over the internet. 00:28 mtompset because the assumption is you want your library OPAC to be searched publicly. 00:28 mtompset you can, but the instructions are name-based. 00:27 nick12254353 somwhow* 00:27 nick12254353 so can i just use the ip somewhoe? 00:27 mtompset because the machine you are browsing from doesn't know how to turn libary-intra into the ip address. 00:27 nick12254353 uh 00:27 mtompset That's because you have a DNS issue now. 00:27 nick12254353 nope 00:26 mtompset that means libary-intra:80 should go to staff client and libary should go to opac. 00:26 nick12254353 whoops, libary .. but thats ok 00:26 mtompset libary or library? :) 00:25 nick12254353 sudo koha-create --create-db libary 00:25 mtompset What did you use for the koha-create command? 00:25 nick12254353 servername-intra doesnt workl 00:25 mtompset servername:80 goes to opac 00:24 mtompset servername-intra:80 goes to staff client. 00:24 nick12254353 DEFAULTSQL = "" ** 00:24 mtompset Therefore... 00:24 mtompset INTRASUFFIX = "-intra" 00:24 nick12254353 DOMAIN="" # Any library instance will be a subdomain of this string. INTRAPORT="80" # TCP listening port for the administration interface INTRAPREFIX="" # For administration interface URL: Prefix to be added to the instance name. INTRASUFFIX="-intra" # For administration interface URL: Suffix to be added to the instance name. DEFAULTSQL="/usr/share/koha/defaults.sql.gz" # only needed if you're pre-populating from another Koha 00:23 mtompset use paste.koha-community.org 00:23 mtompset So, I'd like to know... what did you put in /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf? 00:23 nick12254353 so how do i get it to work? 00:22 nick12254353 haha thats fine 00:22 mtompset Sorry for the slow reply, I was putting my son to beed. 00:22 mtompset Because the instructions you followed are named-based setup for apache. 00:22 mtompset Right. 00:20 nick12254353 servername:8080 doesntwork 00:20 nick12254353 servername:80 works to opac 00:18 nick12254353 mtompset ** 00:18 nick12254353 i was following http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian#Current_Stable_Version for development version 00:18 nick12254353 i am trying to access with 192.168.1.169:8080 00:18 nick12254353 i am trying to access with 192.168.1.169 00:15 mtompset Because my guess is that you are trying to access with an IP address and not a name. 00:15 mtompset What instructions did you follow? 00:15 mtompset nick12254353: How did you install Koha? packages? 00:14 rambuten sessions over 00:14 Ashimema laters all 00:14 Ashimema right.. time to sign off.. 00:14 dcook I think Imma peace out too 00:13 cait cya later all :) 00:11 rangi http://storify.com/ranginui/kohacon13/ 00:11 nick12254353 Hello, i just installed koha onto ubuntu following this http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian#Current_Stable_Version , i can access :80 and it shows koha maintence but :8080 doesnt work, anyhelp is appreciated 00:10 Ashimema storify link? 00:09 rambuten I don't facebook, "like", Myspace, nothing 00:09 mtompset Though, I have visited that storify link rangi posted. 00:09 rambuten twitter is just about the only web 2.0 thing I do occasionally.... 00:08 mtompset #I #think #hashtags #are #annoying #because #people #abuse #them. :P 00:08 mtompset I don't tweet. 00:08 rambuten mtompset: are you following the #kohacon13 tweets? 00:06 dcook mtompset: http://www.kete.net.nz/ 00:06 Ashimema blame the kiwi's ;) 00:06 Ashimema hence the pronunciation conundrum... 00:05 Ashimema current kohacon talk is about 'kete' 00:05 mtompset So, why are we talking about pronouncing 'ki' as in 'kit' and 'tee' for kitty? 00:03 mtompset I can think of 3 a's and perhaps 3 i's, so yes... lots of wrong ways, I would think. 00:03 cait it seems :) 00:02 cait becaue katrin has some difficulties to pronounce 00:02 wahanui well, logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/ 00:02 mtompset logs? 00:02 cait cait just like kate 00:02 cait um no. 00:02 mtompset Oh, is this somehow related to how to pronounce cait's name? 00:02 Ashimema cat jokes aside, looks awesome 00:01 gmcharlt :) 00:01 Ashimema meow.. 00:01 wahanui Here, kitty kitty kitty... 00:01 cait be gmcharlt 00:01 rambuten that 00:01 cait :) 00:01 rambuten yep, like htat 00:01 gmcharlt keh-tee (to my ear) 00:01 mtompset kit-tee? 00:00 mtompset katie? ;) 00:00 rambuten long terminal "e" 00:00 rambuten kitty 00:00 mtompset keet?