IRC log for #koha, 2011-08-29

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00:32 bencahill rangi: hey, thanks for all your help the other day...koha is awesome :)
00:32 rangi no worries glad its working out for you
00:33 bencahill :)
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00:42 druthb o/
01:06 Agent_Dani \o
01:07 * Agent_Dani just got home from the Durham Bulls game.
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01:11 Brooke kia ora
01:11 druthb hi, Brooke!
01:12 Brooke 0/
01:12 Brooke what's shakin, bacon>?
01:12 * druthb has been a travelin' chica.  Last week, Indianapolis, and now we're in Sioux Falls.
01:13 Brooke give Washington a Bloody Nose if you get out that way.
01:13 druthb :)
01:14 Brooke
01:15 Brooke how was cootie ridden Indiana?
01:15 Brooke wahanui indiana?
01:15 wahanui brooke: i haven't a clue
01:15 * Brooke gasps.
01:16 Brooke wahanui Indiana is the sole purpose of that godsforsaken land is to keep the cooties from Michigan offa Illinois.
01:16 wahanui OK, Brooke.
01:16 Brooke Indiana?
01:16 wahanui Indiana is the sole purpose of that godsforsaken land is to keep the cooties from Michigan offa Illinois.
01:17 Brooke Michigan?
01:17 Brooke wahanui Michigan?
01:17 wahanui brooke: bugger all, i dunno
01:17 Brooke feh, this bot ain't been to the sweet corn states.
01:17 Brooke wahanui Michigan is if you want your son to be an axe murderer, send them there.
01:17 wahanui OK, Brooke.
01:17 Brooke Michigan?
01:17 wahanui somebody said Michigan was if you want my son to be an axe murderer, send them there.
01:18 Brooke good boy.
01:18 Agent_Dani I thought that was Pennsyltucky.
01:19 Brooke
01:19 Brooke alternatively,
01:19 Brooke BUT it was just alleged.
01:21 druthb I spent most of my Indiana time at larryb's place.  Nice having coworkers here and there.
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01:24 Agent_Dani I still envy your telecommuting.
01:24 Agent_Dani :)
01:25 Brooke step one: Get jorb at ByWater or other friendly place
01:25 Brooke step two: buy truck
01:25 druthb I like that part, mostly.   After this fall, we're gonna try to find places we can stay for 2-3 weeks at a time, then move shorter distances...  this 800 mile thing is for the birds.
01:25 Brooke step three: Profit.
01:26 Brooke pffft, wouldn't be bitchin' if ye had a driver :P
01:26 druthb kid did some of it...still a long day in the chariot.
01:27 Brooke if it were actually a chariot, I'd agree :P
01:27 Agent_Dani What's the purpose of the truck?
01:27 * Brooke still wants photographic evidence of Chariot Racing in Horowhenua.
01:27 * Agent_Dani had a truck at one point...a 1-ton Chevy with a 454. It never met a gas station it didn't like.
01:27 Brooke the truck was CYA for Brooke being unable to fix the rv
01:28 Brooke this is a stinking chevy, too, I think
01:28 druthb don' feel bad...druthb wasn't able to fix that wreck up, either.
01:28 druthb Yes, this truck is a stinkin' chevy.
01:28 Agent_Dani I got it for $0 so I wasn't complaining too much.
01:29 Agent_Dani These days I have the chick car with a vanity tag that makes computer geeks chuckle.
01:29 druthb Mine's a 1992 K2500 (3/4 ton, 350 engine.)
01:30 Brooke chick car? Do tell.
01:30 Brooke <Warning, doing so might permalabel you as femme.>
01:30 Agent_Dani
01:31 Agent_Dani I think I already have that label.
01:31 Brooke meeeeh
01:31 Brooke could be more embarassing
01:31 Agent_Dani No doubt.
01:31 Brooke could be pink with daisies or jello with bubbles
01:31 Agent_Dani $SO is looking for daisy decals to paste on it - she has named it Daisy.
01:32 Brooke what's that white stuff on it's roof?
01:32 Agent_Dani Some frozen crap that fell from the sky a couple times this year. Haven't figured that out; I was told it doesn't happen in the Triangle. ;)
01:32 Brooke where's the 53? Can't find it...
01:33 Agent_Dani There's a small part of me wishes I'd been able to keep the land yacht when we moved, but that wasn't in the cards.
01:34 * Brooke dated a chap a loooooong time ago that had a 70s LTD
01:34 Brooke naught has been a land boat ever since.
01:34 Agent_Dani This was a '59 Buick Electra.
01:34 Brooke meh close
01:34 Brooke he was crestfallen when I told him I would have preferred a hearse.
01:34 Brooke since he was gonna buy one
01:34 Brooke but thought that chicks wouldn't dig it
01:35 Agent_Dani >.<
01:35 Agent_Dani Grim Rides rock
01:35 Brooke indeed!!
01:35 Brooke Ethan's 77 Trans Am was a bigger chick magnet than my 79 Esprit
01:35 Brooke but uh
01:35 Brooke more mpg
01:35 Brooke yeah, that's the ticket ;)
01:35 Agent_Dani hehe
01:36 * Agent_Dani had a Camaro at one point...
01:36 Brooke omg
01:36 Brooke borrowed one of those
01:36 Agent_Dani The real fun was driving that from PA to August, with no AC.
01:36 Brooke and they put the freggin switch for the brights on the floor during the same model runs
01:36 Brooke couldn't find em
01:36 Brooke yeee haw!
01:36 Brooke the little mister had a 82 prelude
01:36 Brooke with no heat
01:36 Brooke in the winter
01:36 Brooke in Albany
01:37 Brooke it was clearly a plot.
01:38 Brooke[…]deptgoog_djvu.txt
01:38 Brooke with friend like OCR, who needs enemies?
01:41 Agent_Dani Ah, yes, dimmer switches on the floor...I remember that in the '71 F250 we had on the farm. I also remember when it became inoperable. :)
01:42 Agent_Dani The floorboard rusted away enough that I went to press it one time and pushed it through the floor.
01:42 Brooke a yep
01:42 Brooke I think mahn were in the normal place on the esprit
01:42 Brooke long time ago then
01:43 Agent_Dani I learned to drive on that was 20 by the time I was and already on its third bed.
01:44 Brooke heh
01:44 Brooke my main rule to buying cars is that unless it's listed as classic, it mustn't be older than me
01:45 Brooke not such a great rule any more XD
01:45 Agent_Dani heh
01:45 Agent_Dani With you there.
01:45 Brooke another biggy is that it should only have 2 doors. The Prius still fits since it's got 2 doors per engine. >.> <.<
01:46 Agent_Dani Nice technicality!
01:46 Brooke :)
01:48 * druthb stumbles out the door, and heads for bed.
01:48 Brooke night
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02:17 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6528] Cataloging search issues - Holdings not displayed in location column <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6528>
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02:47 BobB Hi rangi, are you about?
02:47 rangi yup
02:48 BobB Hi there.
02:48 rangi heya
02:48 BobB Have you ever experienced problems exporting data from Alice?
02:48 rangi hmm we dont do exports
02:48 rangi we get the clients to do them
02:48 BobB A client has exported a file but not all the records are in it.  Maybe 10% are missing.
02:49 rangi 1/ we dont have the license to use the software,  2/ i dont want to know how they work
02:49 BobB All true.  :)
02:49 rangi how are they getting it out? using the system or the underlying db?
02:50 BobB mtj suggested maybe bad characters.  I can't think why else they wouldn't find all their records.
02:50 BobB They are using a menu option, afaik
02:51 BobB I have never seen the Alice interface.
02:51 rangi well, most proprietary systems are crap, so getting it from the db itself under the hood is usually how our clients end up getting stuff out
02:51 BobB But then they need vendor assistance?
02:51 BobB or cooperation at least?
02:52 rangi nope
02:52 rangi usually they are running on top of some database system, and you just query it
02:52 rangi i dont know with alice, but yeah, there are tons of reasons why it might not export all the records
02:53 BobB So I'll ask if he has DB access - good thought
02:53 rangi if you cant get that
02:53 rangi youd have to try and find a pattern
02:53 rangi in the ones not being exported
02:53 mtj yeah, dont use dynix for the export, just query the universe db instead , etc
02:53 mtj ...  if your client was running dynix (of course)
02:54 mtj heya folks :)
02:54 BobB Alright, well that's another suggestion I can make.
02:55 BobB Hi Mason!
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03:32 Amit_Gupta heya chris
03:32 Amit_Gupta good morning ;)
03:39 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6656] Default sort preferences ignored on advanced search <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6656>
03:41 rangi hi Amit_Gupta
03:54 eythian[…]t-like-Wellington <-- haha
04:21 ketchup ketchup goes to sleep
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04:51 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6704] merging records cuts off fields at quotation marks <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6704>
04:56 eythian Has anyone found the translations putting spurious commas all throughout the OPAC in 3.4.4?
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05:15 francharb morning everyone
05:15 mtj heya francharb
05:20 BobB Has kmkale been in this channel recently?
05:22 mtj @seen kmkale
05:22 huginn mtj: kmkale was last seen in #koha 1 week, 2 days, 21 hours, 33 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <kmkale> Namaskar #koha
05:22 eythian that looks like a no :)
05:23 mtj 9 days ago...
05:25 BobB Thx, I wanted an update on KohaCon.  I'll email him.
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05:33 * Oak waves
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06:09 cait good morning #koha
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06:10 alex_a hi #koha !
06:11 cait hi alex_a :)
06:16 alex_a bonjour cait :)
06:24 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6724] Holds Ratio does not allow decimals <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6724>
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06:37 reiveune hello
06:37 wahanui niihau, reiveune
06:39 Amit_Gupta @seen kmkale
06:39 huginn Amit_Gupta: kmkale was last seen in #koha 1 week, 2 days, 22 hours, 50 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <kmkale> Namaskar #koha
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06:39 Amit_Gupta @seen Amit_Gupta
06:39 huginn Amit_Gupta: Amit_Gupta was last seen in #koha 16 seconds ago: <Amit_Gupta> @seen kmkale
06:39 magnus_away is now known as magnus_afk
06:40 eythian what's the difference between away and afk?
06:40 magnus_afk is now known as magnuse
06:41 magnuse for me, away = logged off, afk = logged on but not necessarily at the keyboard (but i might drop by from time to time)
06:41 magnuse ...and kia ora, #koha
06:42 eythian hi :)
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06:50 * magnuse is off to look at eythians man page patch
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07:05 eythian new packages uploading
07:06 eythian s/uploading/uploaded/
07:08 sophie_m hi #koha
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07:25 magnuse eythian++
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07:34 * magnuse ponders setting up a twitter account for GBSD
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07:44 rangi evening
07:46 magnuse morning
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07:47 reiveune re
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07:55 kf hi #koha
07:55 magnuse hiya kf
07:55 kf hiya magnuse :)
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07:56 rangi hi kf
07:56 kf hi rangi :)
07:56 kf you have been busy!
07:56 rangi ?
07:57 rangi oh fixing bugs?
07:57 wahanui i heard fixing bugs was the best way to do that
07:57 kf your patches are on top of my pile of mails
07:57 kf yep
07:58 rangi ahh
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08:00 kf bonjour sophie_m
08:00 magnuse we have our work cut out for us on friday - next gbsd?
08:01 magnuse next gbsd?
08:01 wahanui next gbsd is[…]bug_squashing_day
08:01 kf lots of things to do yes :)
08:05 rangi yep 88
08:07 magnuse way too many!
08:07 magnuse i will send out a reminder about gbsd shortly
08:07 kf yes, we need to sqash them
08:07 rangi yeah they have been building up over the last 3 weeks
08:08 kf some more hands on those were good
08:08 magnuse hopefully the approaching deadlines for 3.6 should give some encouragement
08:10 magnuse i'm playing with twitter and to create a stream of bugs that have changed status:!/KohaGBSD
08:10 kf :)
08:10 rangi cool
08:10 magnuse the idea is to turn it on for gbsd
08:10 kf magnuse++
08:10 rangi good idea
08:10 magnuse and add #kohails, of course
08:10 magnuse thanks
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08:12 magnuse kia ora paul_p
08:13 paul_p hello magnus & al
08:13 rangi hi paul_p, good holiday?
08:13 paul_p back from vacation. Lot of mails to deal with... will probably spend the day on reading/answering all of them
08:13 kf hi paul_p - already back from your vacation?
08:14 magnuse time flies when you're having fun! ;-)
08:14 paul_p rangi, yep. except a small problem with the car when driving back, that made us arrive at home at 1:30 AM ...
08:14 rangi yuck
08:14 paul_p rangi, french players in the plane heading to NZ at this time...
08:14 rangi yup
08:15 magnuse rangi: how did the match against Oz go?
08:15 rangi not well, 25-20 to australia, but probably good in the long run
08:15 magnuse huh?
08:16 rangi because world cup starts in just over a week
08:16 rangi good to get a reality check
08:16 magnuse ah yes
08:17 rangi nz vs tonga, first game on the 9/9
08:19 magnuse and it's in nz, right?
08:19 rangi yup
08:21 kf 330 mails from koha-bugs...
08:21 kf ugh!
08:21 rangi heh
08:21 kf I was only away for less than 5 days
08:22 rangi i have filters, that filter them into 'signed off' 'needs signoff' etc
08:22 kf hm, perhaps next time
08:22 magnuse filters++
08:22 kf for now I am going to mark them 'read' *ducks*
08:23 * magnuse does that sometimes too...
08:35 magnuse hm, no response from ?
08:38 kf hm
08:38 kf same here it seems
08:38 rangi ill look
08:39 rangi its swapping
08:39 rangi someone/something is working it hard
08:40 kf hm
08:41 rangi hmm something is trying to show tons of bugs at once
08:41 rangi not you magnuse ?
08:41 kf paul_p: working on your rfcs?
08:41 kf nah, probably still reading mails :)
08:42 rangi soon as i get it under control ill lcheck the logs and find out
08:43 * kf imagines rangi riding a gigantic bug...
08:44 kf does this make any sense? probably not
08:44 * kf goes bakc to reading mails
08:45 magnuse rangi: hope not - i have been telling twitterfeed about some feeds, but limited to last 3 or 4 days
08:45 magnuse 2 or 3 even
08:45 magnuse i'll delete them if they are causing trouble
08:45 rangi ill find out when i can get back on the console :)
08:46 magnuse yikes
08:48 paul_p kf, yep, reading emails...
08:48 paul_p and in 10mn a meeting with someone applying to be hired as librarian project manager
08:49 rangi hmmm i think gmcharlt
08:50 rangi ah no, thats the wiki
08:50 kf paul_p: busy first day!
08:50 paul_p yep ;-)
08:50 kf :)
08:52 rangi back
08:53 rangi magnuse: were you using ?
08:53 magnuse rangi: nope,
08:54 magnuse unless twitterfeed uses gnip in the background...
08:54 rangi hmm
08:55 rangi started about 1 hour ago
08:55 rangi - - [28/Aug/2011:19:56:34 +0000] "HEAD /bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6716 HTTP/1.1" 200 295 "-" "UnwindFetchor/1.0 (+"
08:55 rangi - - [28/Aug/2011:19:56:34 +0000] "HEAD /bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6716 HTTP/1.1" 200 295 "-" "UnwindFetchor/1.0 (+"
08:55 rangi lots of that
08:56 magnuse HEAD requests? hm
08:58 rangi ill keep an eye on it
08:58 rangi happy enough at the moment
08:58 magnuse i have deactivated the feeds on, see if that helps
09:02 rangi happy enough at the moment
09:02 rangi ive wound down max clients too, so it shouldnt happen again
09:09 magnuse i reactivated on, so we can see what happens
09:09 rangi cool
09:10 magnuse is there a trick to find recently closed bugs? i tried "Status" changed to "CLOSED" under "Search By Change History" but got no hits?
09:10 rangi try resolved - fixed
09:12 rangi we dont close bugs much, just mark them resolved
09:12 magnuse ah, i'm getting the words mixed up... ;-) thanks
09:12 rangi ill go closing when i do the 3.6.0 release
09:12 magnuse yay
09:12 rangi http://koha-releasemanagement.[…]s/Work_for_3.6.x/
09:13 kf :)
09:13 rangi everything on this list, (which is what is in master at the mo) ill go close
09:13 * magnuse hopes rangi has a script or something for that ;-)
09:13 rangi yep
09:19 rangi paul_p:[…]1/
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09:19 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6803] Removing remote include in MODS xslt <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6803>
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09:24 marcelr hi koha
09:24 rangi hi marcelr
09:24 kf hi marcelr :)
09:25 marcelr does anyone know how to resolve this error from git send-email: fatal: 6803-mods-xsl-v35.patch: 2536: patch contains a line longer than 998 characters
09:26 kf send it as attachement :(
09:26 kf that's what I did in the past
09:26 kf or pull request
09:26 rangi pull request is better, for a big patch like that
09:27 marcelr i'll see what i can do
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10:18 algent hello
10:18 wahanui que tal, algent
10:18 algent where are you from?
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10:19 magnuse algent: wahanui is a bot, truing to be friendly... ;-)
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10:46 Brooke 0/
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10:46 druthb g'morning!
10:46 Brooke mornin' miss.
10:46 druthb @wunder sioux falls, sd
10:46 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Sioux Falls, South Dakota is 13.0�C (4:56 AM CDT on August 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
10:47 druthb uh-huh.  this explains *much*, it does.
10:47 Brooke storms a rollin' in
10:47 druthb frickin' COLD.
10:49 * druthb digs out her cloak
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10:52 Brooke ha! you think that's cold that way XD
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10:52 kf1 hm
10:52 kf1 what was this?
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10:53 Brooke nuffin'. Certain little lady has no idea what actual chill is in her neighbourhood, is all. *duck*
10:53 druthb :P
10:54 druthb Had to get up in the middle of the night and get out the extra blanket.  Mite chilly here, when you're laying still.
10:54 * Brooke looks at the floor.
10:54 druthb :P
10:55 Brooke How about those Mets?
10:55 druthb :P
10:55 druthb Silly Brooke!  *hug*
10:55 magnuse o/
10:55 magnuse @wunder boo
10:55 druthb hi, magnuse!
10:55 Brooke hey magnus
10:55 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0�C (12:20 PM CEST on August 29, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Steady).
10:56 kf @wunder Konstanz
10:56 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 20.0�C (12:53 PM CEST on August 29, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Falling).
10:57 Brooke Yes! We get Jose back![…]news_nym&c_id=nym
10:57 * Brooke sings Jose, Jose, Jose, Jose...
10:58 Brooke would you say it's cold in Bodo, Magnus?
10:59 magnuse Brooke: nah, quite pleasant for the end of august
11:00 * Brooke titters.
11:00 * druthb shivers.
11:00 druthb @wunder sioux falls, sd
11:00 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Sioux Falls, South Dakota is 13.0�C (4:56 AM CDT on August 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
11:00 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
11:00 magnuse hehe
11:00 druthb she's picking on me, magnuse, because I *am* cold.  much cooler here than in indianapolis last week.
11:00 magnuse i have a slightly open window 50cm from where i'm sitting
11:01 kf 13 sounds quite nice
11:01 * kf hides
11:01 * Brooke covers her mouth with her hand.
11:01 druthb See, I'd like that.  I have a completely open roof with a thin sheet of nylon fabric over it about that far over my head.
11:02 magnuse :-)
11:02 Brooke "And I've cursed the life when winter days were dawning"
11:02 Brooke http://www.celticlyricscorner.[…]rish/freeborn.htm
11:04 Brooke Oh, Cubbies, ye're even further back than my Mets. *sigh* At least Boston is leading the Evil Empire...
11:06 * magnuse wanders off to find lunch
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11:18 Brooke 0/
11:34 Agent_Dani \o
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11:52 Brooke 0/
11:54 Brooke pfft
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11:54 * Brooke still can't upload an image to the bloody wiki.
11:54 matts_away is now known as matts
11:55 kf Brooke: waht format is your image
11:55 kf ?
11:55 Brooke jpg
11:55 Brooke it's an accepted format
11:55 Brooke the upload page has been tossing errors since feb
11:55 kf and waht is your error message?
11:55 Brooke it's still can't write to public. It displays the categories now, but it won't respect that I check one.
11:57 Brooke "The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver."
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12:00 kf ah
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12:33 oleonard Happy Monday #koha
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12:55 druthb o/
12:56 magnuse \o
12:56 Agent_Dani \o
12:56 druthb \o/
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12:59 oleonard <o>
13:00 druthb Hi, oleonard! :)
13:00 Agent_Dani /o\
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13:03 libsysguy paul_p: you around?
13:03 druthb hi, libsysguy!
13:04 libsysguy omg druthb you are alive!!!
13:04 druthb For some value of "alive", yes.  :)
13:04 Agent_Dani Memorex?
13:04 libsysguy if(alive_analogue >0) alive = true;
13:06 libsysguy so I hear that we are going to have to start playing where in the world is druthb
13:06 druthb hee hee.
13:06 druthb There's a calendar up on my blog, but I'm in Sioux Falls this week.
13:06 magnuse now you see her, now you don't
13:06 oleonard See, it's not much of a game if she tells.
13:06 magnuse they seek her here, they seek her there...
13:07 magnuse ah, but does she tell the truth, i wonder?
13:07 druthb I think the calendar is up through the middle of October at this point.  We're on one-week sprints, due to some appointments I have here and there.
13:08 libsysguy for some reason druthb i keep typing
13:08 libsysguy lol
13:08 druthb lol
13:08 libsysguy ohh with agile methodology
13:08 druthb no, like driving 800 miles as fast as you can on a weekend, whilst doing a go-live.
13:08 druthb (which is what we did this weekend.)
13:08 libsysguy wow
13:09 libsysguy gives druthb a boss badge
13:09 Agent_Dani druthb: Okay, you have me beat.
13:09 druthb Next weekend is easy-peasy...three day weekend, and only 386 miles to drive.  Relaxin'.
13:09 * Agent_Dani figured 750 in August, in a Camaro with no AC, and in the South was pretty hard core.
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13:10 libsysguy druthb: this is for you
13:10 druthb that is pretty hard-core, yeah.
13:10 Agent_Dani 386?! I've done that in a single day on two wheels! :)
13:10 druthb we don't have any AC in our truck, either, but it wasn't bad this weekend.
13:10 * Agent_Dani nods
13:11 libsysguy Agent_Dani what do you ride...just curious
13:11 druthb Pittsburgh -> Indianapolis the week before...that was fierce.
13:11 Agent_Dani No AC on the bike, either, but I get a great breeze.
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13:11 Agent_Dani libsysguy:
13:12 Agent_Dani druthb: In fairness, we didn't realize we'd have no AC when we set out from PA that day...
13:12 libsysguy ohh see you get to ride in comfort lol
13:12 libsysguy aww did you get it fixed yet druthb
13:12 Agent_Dani Yep.
13:12 druthb nope.  I *think* it's just low refrigerant, because it is cooling a little when you turn it on.
13:12 Agent_Dani druthb: Hopefully it's a once and done repair for that...
13:13 oleonard I complained to my wife that my AC only worked when the car was moving. She said, Honey, that's called a window.
13:13 * Agent_Dani snerks
13:13 Agent_Dani I remember that with the C30 we had on the farm.
13:13 libsysguy oleonard: I think you got owned
13:14 Agent_Dani When the AC checked out soon after we got it my father refused to get it fixed...
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13:14 Agent_Dani libsysguy: I've had that Voyager a bit over a year and have averaged 1k miles a month.
13:14 libsysguy[…]0Rrepsol%2009.jpg
13:14 libsysguy its a little harder for me to put in a lot of miles
13:17 wizzyrea mornin trea
13:17 magnuse kia ora trea
13:17 trea good morning koha
13:17 trea kia ora magnuse
13:19 paul_p libsysguy, i'm here now. back from meeting
13:20 libsysguy hey paul_p I was just going to ask you about your singing and dancing machine
13:20 paul_p ???
13:20 libsysguy is that you that posted to the devel list about a machine with an SSD?
13:22 magnuse could have been another paul. especially if it was in the last couple of weeks...
13:22 libsysguy oh yeah...i guess i just assumed it was our paul_p
13:22 * libsysguy smiles sheepishly
13:22 wizzyrea you mean paul, the tired old sysadmin?
13:22 wizzyrea because that's definitely not our paul_p
13:22 druthb too much fast motorcycling addles the brain, libsysguy.
13:22 wizzyrea ^^
13:23 druthb wizzyrea!     *grins*
13:23 libsysguy hehe
13:23 wizzyrea (no, seriously, he signs his mail like that)
13:23 magnuse but paul_p has been known to sing and dance...
13:23 wizzyrea hi druthb!
13:23 wizzyrea a haka, no less :)
13:23 * druthb pictures libsysguy tearing around the piney woods of east TX on his CBR.
13:23 * magnuse has the pictures to prove it!
13:23 * wizzyrea is sad to have not seen it
13:23 wizzyrea ooo there are pictures
13:23 magnuse next time, wizzyrea!
13:24 wizzyrea *nod*
13:24 * druthb is staying at a new campground chain for her, this week..    It's...uhm...targeted at families with smaller kids, but the price is right, and it has more trees here than the rest of SD that I've seen...
13:24 druthb But Lindsey was *mortified* when Yogi Bear came to visit our campsite.
13:25 paul_p magnuse, i've been known to dance (the aka), but not to sing (at least in Koha world ;-) )
13:25 paul_p libsysguy, we have a SSD server for our migrations, but it's not me that talked about it recently iirc
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13:26 paul_p and yes, there's another "paul" that just signs "paul", it's not me, my signature is always Paul Poulain or paul_p
13:26 Agent_Dani libsysguy: I do believe that would be a bit more difficult...proabably more than when I did 500 straight on a Nighthawk 750 (CB750.)
13:31 oleonard Anyone else getting XISBN errors in their OPAC error log?
13:32 libsysguy I've done 300 on that thing and I thought I was going to die
13:32 Agent_Dani libsysguy: FYI, I'm looking for an EN-6f (or EN-6n) to use as a commuter and the like. The Voyager is great for distance, but...
13:32 Agent_Dani I believe it.
13:33 Agent_Dani The one thing I miss about that CB750 was the fuel economy. Doing 70MPH on the interstate and not doing worse than 50MPG.
13:33 jcamins_away is now known as jcamins
13:33 jcamins Good morning, #koha
13:33 trea morning jcamins
13:33 druthb hi, jcamins.  :)
13:33 libsysguy yeah I understand...its weird mine at 70 gets around 45 but around 120 gets 60
13:34 libsysguy morning jcamins
13:34 wizzyrea I see you managed to not get blown away
13:34 jcamins It was a bit anticlimactic.
13:34 * wizzyrea is glad
13:34 * magnuse too
13:35 * Agent_Dani agrees
13:35 jcamins Yeah, we were, too.
13:35 oleonard Yes, now the TV news blame game starts: Why did we prepare so well?! What a waste of time!!
13:35 Agent_Dani I didn't lose power but a bunch of people near where I live did; can't image how it was any distance east of me.
13:35 magnuse oleonard: i was just waiting for that...
13:35 jcamins Agent_Dani: I hear in parts of NJ the power's going to be out for days, if not weeks.
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13:39 jcamins oleonard: do you have a jQuery plugin you like for dropdown menus?
13:39 Agent_Dani jcamins: I imagine so...similar to coastal NC.
13:39 oleonard jcamins: No, in fact that's what I've been waiting for in order to complete Bug 5481
13:39 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5481 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Replace YUI JS libraries with Jquery UI
13:40 oleonard jcamins: There is a jqueryUI native menu widget in development
13:40 jcamins oleonard: alas. I've decided to redo my website, and I'm having issues with the dropdown menus.
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13:40 oleonard For all my hate of YUI, I do like their menus--even though they're a pain to set up.
13:41 jcamins I only need very simple menus. But they need to be _above_ the main body of the text, and z-index doesn't appear to do anything for me.
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13:42 nengard good morning #koha - I am with a new Koha library we're on day one of training
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13:42 * oleonard waves to new Koha library in training
13:43 magnuse nengard: woohoo ;-)
13:43 * magnuse waves too
13:43 druthb good morning!  *wave*
13:44 * tcohen waves at druthb
13:44 druthb :D  hi, tcohen!
13:44 Agent_Dani druthb: Yogi sure gets around...he was at DBAP this weekend. ;)
13:44 druthb :)
13:45 nengard okay time to log off and train :)
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13:45 wizzyrea huh.
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13:45 wizzyrea hi and by... oh bother
13:45 druthb Was funny watching Lindsey's reaction...the guy pulls up in a golf cart, with Yogi as a passenger, and he says, "Yogi likes to come around a visit new guests to the camp!"
13:46 druthb Apparently, they make the rounds about 1800, of newly-filled sites.
13:46 wizzyrea lol wow
13:46 druthb this is a classy camp, though--When we checked in, a kid in a golf cart escorted us to our site, showed us its' boundaries, and asked if he could fetch anything for us.
13:47 druthb this site is larger--and flatter--than our site in Indy.  Not very shady; the trees are still a little young.
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13:48 kf yogi the bear?
13:48 druthb the same.  :)
13:48 druthb
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13:49 jcamins Woohoo! It works!
13:50 druthb The reviews for Jellystone parks tend to have lots of grumpy oldsters complaining about the kids.  I just wanna tell 'em, fine, go to KOA.  The one here in Sioux Falls is very big-rig friendly--no tent sites with power....  Jellystone markets families with small kids *really* hard.
13:52 jcamins druthb: if there's no power, how are you working?
13:52 druthb I'm not at the unpowered KOA..  :)  I'm at the Jellystone park, where the tent sites *do* have power.
13:52 jcamins Ah. I see.
13:53 druthb we normally choose KOA--I'm on the value-card program, and get 10% off.  But I was pleased to discover that this part is also a Good Sam park, so I got 10% off for *that.*  :D
13:53 magnuse wow, living the simple life sounds complicated ;-)
13:53 Agent_Dani hehe
13:53 druthb $22.50 a night, for a commercial campground with wi-fi and wicked-hot showers?  What's not to like.
13:53 * Agent_Dani is cribbing notes for her hopeful future cross-country motorcycle ride.
13:54 druthb It's helpful to get a deck of memberships.  KOA Value-Kard ($24), Good Sam ($20, if you register at a park, rather than online), Happy Campers ($30, I think), AAA, etc.
13:56 druthb Full-timers also tend to join Escapees, but I've not done that yet.  Buncha cranky old coots, and not that many parks give discounts.
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13:56 jcamins windows--
13:57 jcamins ie--
13:57 kf ie--
13:57 druthb ie--
13:57 magnuse ie--
13:57 druthb @most decreased
13:57 huginn druthb: "<!": 111, "failed": 67, "-": 40, "<-": 34, "ie": 28, "ptfs": 15, "--><!": 14, "liblime": 12, "src="<!": 11, "monday": 10, "C4::Search": 9, "-rw-r--r": 9, "zebra": 9, "windows": 8, "marc": 8, " is not a known MakeMaker parameter name. ": 6, "patron<!": 6, "jsp": 6, "me": 6, "^": 6, "jerks": 6, "rangi": 5, "oleonard": 5, "problem": 5, and "is": 5
13:57 druthb IE is down 28...keep 'em coming.
13:57 trea ha
13:57 trea ie--
13:58 druthb lol
13:58 kf hi trea :)
13:58 * oleonard wonders what rangi and he did to get downvoted
13:58 wizzyrea I bet it was pianohacker.
13:58 wizzyrea :)
13:58 druthb Blame the youth.
13:59 wizzyrea or someone putitng the karma back in balance
13:59 trea o/ good morning kf :D
13:59 druthb druthb--
13:59 huginn druthb: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
13:59 wizzyrea @karma oleonard
13:59 huginn wizzyrea: Karma for "oleonard" has been increased 320 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 315.
13:59 druthb :P
13:59 druthb @most increased
13:59 huginn druthb: "rangi": 396, "oleonard": 320, "gmcharlt": 268, "wizzyrea": 218, "chris_n": 204, "nengard": 185, "cait": 156, "sekjal": 141, "druthb": 119, "paul_p": 111, "slef": 96, "jcamins": 94, "magnuse": 70, "kf": 69, "hdl_laptop": 60, "hdl": 56, "jwagner": 53, "atz": 44, "biblibre": 42, "thd": 42, "eythian": 39, "pianohacker": 39, "larsw": 37, "fredericd": 32, and "Colin": 27
13:59 oleonard karma back in balance? That didn't work out so well for the Jedi.
13:59 wahanui back in balance? that didn't work out so well for the jedi. has neutral karma
13:59 jcamins ie-- # why won't you let me access my website? It's my own website.
14:00 wizzyrea some day wahanui is going to come back with that and we're all going to be amazed by his wisdom.
14:00 kf oh
14:00 * kf sends cookies
14:00 magnuse kf++
14:01 jcamins What do you mean "No internet access"? It's an unroutable VLAN. Of course it doesn't access the Internet. Just access the stupid site anyway.
14:01 druthb wahanui: druthb?
14:01 wahanui you are a travelin' woman.
14:01 jcamins ?!?
14:02 jcamins Telnet is no longer included with Windows?
14:03 magnuse what about
14:03 kf perhaps offline mode?
14:03 kf ie I mean
14:04 jcamins kf: ah, that's a good idea.
14:06 jcamins Sadly, that's not the problem.
14:06 jcamins Okay, the site works in FF on Windows.
14:07 wizzyrea try putting the address for your site in your allowed security zone?
14:07 wizzyrea in IE
14:08 * jcamins disables all security features.
14:09 jcamins Wow.
14:09 jcamins This may be the dumbest problem ever.
14:09 oleonard In what way does IE not show the site?
14:09 jcamins oleonard: it didn't load at all.
14:09 jcamins I figured out the problem.
14:10 jcamins IE doesn't use HTTP by default.
14:10 oleonard Uh-wha?
14:10 jcamins Ive gotten used to non-stupid browsers where you can enter a domain name and it will automatically load the page with HTTP.
14:10 jcamins s/Ive/I've/
14:10 jcamins ie--
14:11 wizzyrea you mean it doesn't prepend http:// if you're using a number?
14:11 magnuse jcamins: you have clearly been spoilt!
14:11 jcamins Right.
14:11 wizzyrea it tries to search instead
14:12 * wizzyrea suspects that chrome would have the same stupidity
14:12 jcamins Nope. Works correctly in Chrome.
14:12 oleonard jcamins: You mean you put in "" in IE and it tries to search?
14:12 jcamins oleonard: well, don't know about Google.
14:12 * wizzyrea likes to be wrong about stuff like that. Enhances my righteous indignation at microsoft
14:12 jcamins In this case, the URL was
14:12 jcamins Works in Chrome, Firefox, and Safari.
14:13 jcamins In IE, it flips out, and will not do anything.
14:13 jcamins Add http:// at the beginning, and suddenly everything's copasetic.
14:13 jcamins I mean, other than the fact that you're still using IE, which makes you sad.
14:27 kf heh
14:28 jcamins Apparently IE5.5 and IE7 do not like the latest jQuery. IE6 is perfectly fine with it.
14:32 oleonard What about IE4? Maybe it's an even-number thing.
14:33 jcamins oleonard: I don't think I can test in IE4 with a Mac and a Windows 7 VM.
14:33 oleonard Wow, Bug 6528 was just a dumb variable name error.
14:33 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6528 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cataloging search issues - Holdings not displayed in location column
14:33 * wizzyrea studies that patch closely
14:33 magnuse is now known as magnus_afk
14:33 oleonard jcamins: I would never actually suggest you test IE4.
14:33 wizzyrea oleonard++ thanks for poking at that
14:34 * wizzyrea did not try that particular permutation of variable names
14:34 oleonard wizzyrea: It's rangi's patch, I'm just testing.
14:34 jcamins oleonard: good. I figure if someone is using IE4, there's really no hope for them.
14:35 oleonard I'm feeling that way about IE6 these days.
14:35 jcamins IE4 probably didn't even support CSS, did it?
14:36 jcamins Oh, it did! Wow! Well, at least insofar as IE supported standards at all.
14:37 wizzyrea rangi++
14:37 oleonard There was a time when IE6 was genuinely the best browser out there, after Netscape 4 bloated up.
14:38 oleonard It wasn't until the Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox betas started coming out that it changed.
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15:12 reiveune bye
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15:23 rhcl @seen wizzyrea
15:23 huginn rhcl: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 46 minutes and 22 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> rangi++
15:23 wizzyrea whaddup
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15:27 paul_p hi meliameggs_ I just sent you a mail !
15:29 meliameggs_ good morning, paul_p!  I'll look for your mail now.
15:29 paul_p meliameggs_, good morning to you. For me, it's no more the morning ( 5PM ;-) )
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15:46 * Oak waves
15:49 Agent_Dani Hi Oak
15:49 * oleonard quits early this week
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15:50 trea-meeting is now known as trea
15:50 Oak heya Agent_Dani
15:50 Oak kia ora rangi
15:50 Oak :)
15:51 Oak @later tell Brooke[…]eck-out-line.html
15:51 huginn Oak: The operation succeeded.
15:54 Oak @later tell cait druthb[…]eck-out-line.html
15:54 huginn Oak: The operation succeeded.
15:54 Oak did that worked? or will cait get the message 'druthb' ?
15:54 Oak work*
15:55 jcamins The latter.
15:55 Oak uh oh
15:55 Oak @later tell cait[…]eck-out-line.html
15:55 huginn Oak: The operation succeeded.
15:55 jcamins However, druthb is logged in, so she should see that when she gets back.
15:55 Oak @later tell druthb[…]eck-out-line.html
15:55 huginn Oak: The operation succeeded.
15:55 Oak okay cool, thank you jcamins
15:56 Oak so we cannot tell multiple persons something in one go?
15:56 jcamins That is correct.
15:56 Oak are you a bot too jcamins ?
15:56 jcamins For people who are always logged in and idling, generally we'll see when people say our names when we get back to the computer.
15:57 Oak kidding :)
15:57 jcamins Nope.
15:57 jcamins I'm logged on enough that I could be. ;)
15:57 wizzyrea hee
15:57 Oak heh
15:57 jcamins In two hours, I'll have been logged into #koha for 50 days.
15:57 Oak :-0
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16:02 Oak hmm, I don't understand this: " Time is a figure eight, at its center the city of Deja Vu. ~Robert Brault"
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16:05 indradg hi folks
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16:06 jcamins Oak: it's a very colorful way of saying that things repeat in cycles.
16:06 Oak aah
16:06 Oak oh yes!
16:06 Oak got it.
16:07 Oak thanks...
16:09 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6804] If IndependantBranches and AutoLocation enabled, OPAC login does not redirect properly outside IP range <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6804>
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16:23 rhcl @seen gmcharlt
16:23 huginn rhcl: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 3 days, 18 hours, 4 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> heading home, laters
16:23 gmcharlt rhcl: howdy
16:23 wahanui niihau, gmcharlt
16:25 rhcl gmcharlt: et al: we can go off-line if necessary...
16:26 rhcl OK, so I'm working w/ the local university where I got my MAS. They need upper level programming projects and one MS level programming project.
16:27 rhcl Koha is a big beaste, and none of these people are librarians, so there's no way they could get spun up on a Koha dev project in any reasonable amount of time
16:27 druthb pity.
16:28 jcamins rhcl: are you sure? I bet rangi could think of a project on Koha that doesn't require any knowledge of libraries.
16:28 wizzyrea ^^
16:28 rhcl On my back burner I've been really burning to look at a public access control system, possibly based on libki or jw's powerline
16:28 wizzyrea gamifying it, for example.
16:28 wizzyrea though that's a trivial one
16:28 wizzyrea and mostly funstuff.
16:28 rhcl feedback on that project?
16:28 wizzyrea i like that too
16:28 rhcl any other ideas?
16:29 rhcl anything related to koha or libraries? It would all be open-source of course. Mostly they are looking for level 2-3 php, but possibly also java.
16:29 druthb patron auto-promotion tool, to bulk-update patrons from Child types to Adult types, based on date-of-birth.
16:29 rhcl the one grad student needing a project is supposed to be pretty sharp w/ php
16:30 wizzyrea undebar when fines are paid
16:30 wizzyrea (certain fines, or overdues returned)
16:30 druthb patron self-registration screen, with a syspref to allow the library to force a category on them so they know who did that.
16:31 wizzyrea ^^ could go with the whole computer/print management thing
16:31 wizzyrea I think you really ought to get these guys going on that
16:31 wizzyrea because there's not a whole lot of room for php/java in koha proper
16:32 rhcl yea, I keep thinking that I'll get to it .... next month ... next month .... next month
16:32 jcamins Interface between Koha and Wordpress, for the PHP.
16:32 wizzyrea jcamins what are you thinking of?
16:32 wizzyrea interface how?
16:32 wizzyrea pretty sure someone's done this
16:32 jcamins wizzyrea: there's this really cool project with Drupal, where you can put your catalog records directly in Drupal, but I don't think there's anything for Wordpress.
16:32 magnus_afk xc?
16:33 rhcl anyway, I have some good php coding hours available, they're looking for 4-5 projects
16:33 jcamins Oh, does xc do anything yet?
16:33 magnus_afk integration between koha and some cms based on sru and ils-di
16:34 jcamins Ooh, just found what I wanted, never mind.
16:34 jcamins Scriblio!
16:34 wizzyrea ^^ that's what I was thinking of
16:34 wizzyrea but i'm nt as fast as you :)
16:34 magnus_afk jcamins: i looked over someone's shoulder at something that looked pretty far along
16:34 sekjal rhcl:  creation of a downloadable Koha VM with a meta-tool that, once the system is installed, allows librarians to choose patches to test, and provides an easy mechanism for sign-offs
16:34 sekjal something that obscures all the commandline, Git processes behind a GUI
16:34 magnus_afk sekjal++
16:34 wizzyrea that's a good one too
16:35 jcamins I was thinking of SOPAC. That's the Drupal one.
16:35 magnus_afk yeah, that is a very cool idea!
16:36 druthb sekjal++
16:36 rhcl sekjal: can you flesh out your idea a bit and email it to me?
16:36 magnus_afk put it on the wiki!
16:37 paul_p time to leave. Could lower mails waiting for an answer to less than 100 (98 !) but still a lot of things to do...
16:37 sekjal rhcl:  absolutely
16:37 rhcl tnx
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16:57 libsysguy_class I have a random question.  For DB changes, why don't we just track the db schema in git?
16:57 jcamins libsysguy_class: the schema is tracked in git.
16:57 libsysguy_class 0_0
16:57 libsysguy_class so why mess with
16:57 jcamins libsysguy_class: installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql, I think.
16:58 jcamins Because having the schema in a file managed by git doesn't get the proper updates installed into the server.
16:58 sekjal libsysguy_class: some of the changes in are just data, not structure
16:58 jcamins rangi's been looking at a way to do it more sensibly.
16:58 sekjal like new sysprefs
16:58 sekjal up changes to default Framework descriptions
16:58 sekjal .. *or* changes to...
17:05 libsysguy_class ohh ok
17:06 libsysguy_class It was just something I was looking into for another project and I didn't know what our reasoning was but I'm glad rangi is looking into other options because that update script can be a pain
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17:14 cait hi #koha
17:15 rhcl hi cait
17:15 cait hi rhcl :)
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17:30 cait hi again trea
17:35 trea o/
17:40 jcamins I need an opinion.
17:40 * druthb has one.
17:41 jcamins Should I have a link to just on the text "Koha" in "Koha Integrated Library System" (and should the final three words be capitalized), or should I have a link on the entire phrase?
17:41 jcamins Me, I think it looks a little better with the link on the entire phrase, but the project is the Koha project, not the Koha Integrated Library System project.
17:41 * druthb would link the whole phrase, but YMMV
17:41 jcamins Ta.
17:42 * druthb likes multi-word links, given a choice.
17:42 * jcamins too.
17:42 magnus_afk easier to click on - bigger "surface"
17:42 druthb ^^
17:42 druthb catches the eye better, too
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18:31 wizzyrea cait, about?
18:35 wizzyrea is the magical cait still on vacation?
18:36 wizzyrea well, anyone here from bsz?
18:37 cait here
18:37 cait magical cait?
18:37 cait wizzyrea?
18:37 wahanui i think wizzyrea is amazing!
18:37 cait :)
18:37 wizzyrea :)
18:38 wizzyrea do you have 3M machines?
18:38 wizzyrea self-checks
18:38 cait yes
18:38 cait one of our libraries
18:38 wahanui one of our libraries is using rfid though and another is implementing it at the moment
18:38 wizzyrea do you have one you can *test* with*
18:38 cait starting with them at the moment, everything installed and first tests done
18:38 wizzyrea OH cool
18:38 wizzyrea i wonder
18:38 wizzyrea[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6335
18:38 huginn Bug 6335: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Branch not set consistently in all SIP transactions
18:38 wizzyrea could you look into that if you have a min?
18:38 cait hm
18:39 cait we don't have a 3m machine to test with, but my coworker has a program to test with
18:39 cait I was looking at the bug earlier
18:39 wizzyrea ooo!
18:39 wizzyrea I used to have a program... but I can't find it now >.<
18:39 cait and wondered if you can avoid the problem by having different sip users?
18:39 cait one for each branch?
18:39 wizzyrea well we have that
18:39 wizzyrea actually we only have one branch that uses SIP for circ
18:40 wizzyrea but lots of stuff going here and there from that branch
18:41 cait ok
18:41 cait so there are problems with it?
18:42 cait can you give me a test case where the problem always appears?
18:42 wizzyrea I will try to yes
18:42 wizzyrea actually
18:42 wizzyrea colin gives a test plan
18:42 wizzyrea further down
18:44 cait hm not sure I get it
18:45 cait ok, setting automaticitemreturn to do
18:45 cait checkin book from branch a and branch b
18:45 cait and it should go into transport, right?
18:45 wizzyrea right
18:46 wizzyrea checkin book from branch a *at* branch b
18:46 wizzyrea so, the sip machine is assigned to branch b
18:47 wizzyrea a book with home library of A, en route to B, when checked in through SIP should prompt to send the item home
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18:48 cait1 hmpf
18:48 cait1 liz?
18:48 wizzyrea yesm?
18:49 cait1 sorry, pluggin in my external storage froze my linux :(
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18:49 wizzyrea ah all good
18:49 wizzyrea right
18:49 wizzyrea [1:46p] wizzyrea:
18:49 wizzyrea checkin book from branch a *at* branch b
18:49 wizzyrea [1:46p] wizzyrea:
18:49 wizzyrea so, the sip machine is assigned to branch b
18:49 wahanui i already had it that way, wizzyrea.
18:49 wizzyrea [1:47p] wizzyrea:
18:49 wizzyrea a book with home library of A, en route to B, when checked in through SIP should prompt to send the item home
18:49 wizzyrea forget the sip machine
18:49 wizzyrea wahanui forget the sip machine
18:49 wahanui wizzyrea, I didn't have anything matching sip machine
18:50 wizzyrea forget so, the sip machine
18:50 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot so, the sip machine
18:50 cait1 sip machine xml file - branch b - sip user too?
18:50 wizzyrea right
18:50 cait1 book from a, checkout out at b, returned at b?
18:52 wizzyrea correct
18:52 cait1 ok
18:53 cait1 will try to test it
18:53 cait1 hope we manage this week
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19:22 rhcl congrats thatcher!
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19:23 cait1 oh
19:23 cait1 what did I miss?
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19:28 trea ty ty
19:28 trea started with bywater today
19:28 Agent_Dani Congrats!
19:28 cait1 oh congrats
19:29 jcamins Congratulations!
19:29 cait1 programmer/support person?
19:29 trea mmmhm
19:30 libsysguy sekjal you around?
19:30 libsysguy hi trea congratualtions
19:30 trea ty ty
19:31 wizzyrea libsysguy?
19:31 wahanui somebody said libsysguy was Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck
19:31 libsysguy hehe
19:31 libsysguy i love that one
19:31 libsysguy yes wizzyrea
19:31 wahanui wizzyrea is, like, amazing
19:32 * trea chuckles
19:32 wizzyrea I just wanted to see that
19:34 libsysguy i always like seeing that...i told me gf about it and she was like how did wahanui know you were dating a Swede
19:34 wizzyrea wahanui knows everything
19:34 wahanui wizzyrea: excuse me?
19:35 hdl trea: congrats
19:35 trea thx hdl
19:35 jcamins wahanui: jcamins?
19:35 wahanui it has been said that jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. or awesome fixing broken email notifications
19:37 libsysguy ooo jcamins i have a question for you
19:37 jcamins libsysguy: yes?
19:37 libsysguy so I am trying to use overlays again
19:38 libsysguy only this time trying to match on the OCLC number
19:38 libsysguy and its not working
19:38 libsysguy and its frustrating
19:38 libsysguy any pro-tips
19:38 jcamins libsysguy: easiest thing to do is get sekjal to send you the patch that he's been working on for that issue. ;)
19:39 libsysguy ohh man I had a hunch it was broken
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19:47 jcamins libsysguy: yup. Unfortunately so. I feel like I warned you about that, and was told that I was a real downer. :P
19:48 libsysguy yeah you probably did but my boss has been working on it for like a week without asking me about she was mad when I told her I thought it was broken
19:51 jcamins Ah.
20:31 rhcl time for cookies baked on George...
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21:40 wahanui sekjal was last seen on #koha 4 hours, 41 minutes and 28 seconds ago, saying: .. *or* changes to... [Mon Aug 29 16:58:30 2011]
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22:01 libsysguy So if I wanted to do a zebra rebuild do I have to do a -r
22:01 wizzyrea O! gotta go, bbl!
22:01 libsysguy because we added a lot of ebooks today and the searching isn't working on the series field
22:01 cait1 search faq?
22:01 wahanui somebody said search faq was at[…]on/faq/searching/
22:01 cait1 libsysguy: only the series is not working?
22:01 cait1 the other fields are?
22:01 bg hi there cait1
22:01 cait1 hi bg
22:01 cait1 is now known as cait
22:01 cait how is california?
22:02 bg libsysguy: yeah -r -x should do the trick
22:02 cait @wunder konstanz
22:02 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 15.7�C (11:53 PM CEST on August 29, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady).
22:02 bg ah I'm in florida
22:02 bg let's see
22:02 cait ouch
22:02 cait I am sorry
22:02 bg @wunder springhill, fl
22:02 huginn bg: Error: No such location could be found.
22:02 libsysguy aww I was hoping to not have to do that
22:02 bg heh
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22:02 bg let's see home
22:02 bg @wunder 93109
22:02 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 24.8�C (3:01 PM PDT on August 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Falling).
22:02 bg ah so nice
22:02 Agent_Dani @wunder 27705
22:02 huginn Agent_Dani: The current temperature in Huckleberry Heights, Durham, North Carolina is 22.3�C (6:02 PM EDT on August 29, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Rising). Severe Thunderstorm Watch 816 in effect until 11 PM EDT this evening...
22:03 Agent_Dani ...yeah, I think I'm taking the car to class and not the motorcycle, then.
22:03 bg @wunder spring hill, fl
22:03 huginn bg: The current temperature in Brooksville, Florida is 30.3�C (6:02 PM EDT on August 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Steady).
22:03 bg ah feels hotter and more humid
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22:10 cait time to sleep
22:10 cait bye all
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