Time  Nick            Message
00:32 bencahill       rangi: hey, thanks for all your help the other day...koha is awesome :)
00:32 rangi           no worries glad its working out for you
00:33 bencahill       :)
00:42 druthb          o/
01:06 Agent_Dani      \o
01:07 * Agent_Dani    just got home from the Durham Bulls game.
01:11 Brooke          kia ora
01:11 druthb          hi, Brooke!
01:12 Brooke          0/
01:12 Brooke          what's shakin, bacon>?
01:12 * druthb        has been a travelin' chica.  Last week, Indianapolis, and now we're in Sioux Falls.
01:13 Brooke          give Washington a Bloody Nose if you get out that way.
01:13 druthb          :)
01:14 Brooke          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skins_(2002_film)
01:15 Brooke          how was cootie ridden Indiana?
01:15 Brooke          wahanui indiana?
01:15 wahanui         brooke: i haven't a clue
01:15 * Brooke        gasps.
01:16 Brooke          wahanui Indiana is the sole purpose of that godsforsaken land is to keep the cooties from Michigan offa Illinois.
01:16 wahanui         OK, Brooke.
01:16 Brooke          Indiana?
01:16 wahanui         Indiana is the sole purpose of that godsforsaken land is to keep the cooties from Michigan offa Illinois.
01:17 Brooke          Michigan?
01:17 Brooke          wahanui Michigan?
01:17 wahanui         brooke: bugger all, i dunno
01:17 Brooke          feh, this bot ain't been to the sweet corn states.
01:17 Brooke          wahanui Michigan is if you want your son to be an axe murderer, send them there.
01:17 wahanui         OK, Brooke.
01:17 Brooke          Michigan?
01:17 wahanui         somebody said Michigan was if you want my son to be an axe murderer, send them there.
01:18 Brooke          good boy.
01:18 Agent_Dani      I thought that was Pennsyltucky.
01:19 Brooke          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HH_Holmes
01:19 Brooke          alternatively, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lizzie_Borden
01:19 Brooke          BUT it was just alleged.
01:21 druthb          I spent most of my Indiana time at larryb's place.  Nice having coworkers here and there.
01:24 Agent_Dani      I still envy your telecommuting.
01:24 Agent_Dani      :)
01:25 Brooke          step one: Get jorb at ByWater or other friendly place
01:25 Brooke          step two: buy truck
01:25 druthb          I like that part, mostly.   After this fall, we're gonna try to find places we can stay for 2-3 weeks at a time, then move shorter distances...  this 800 mile thing is for the birds.
01:25 Brooke          step three: Profit.
01:26 Brooke          pffft, wouldn't be bitchin' if ye had a driver :P
01:26 druthb          kid did some of it...still a long day in the chariot.
01:27 Brooke          if it were actually a chariot, I'd agree :P
01:27 Agent_Dani      What's the purpose of the truck?
01:27 * Brooke        still wants photographic evidence of Chariot Racing in Horowhenua.
01:27 * Agent_Dani    had a truck at one point...a 1-ton Chevy with a 454. It never met a gas station it didn't like.
01:27 Brooke          the truck was CYA for Brooke being unable to fix the rv
01:28 Brooke          this is a stinking chevy, too, I think
01:28 druthb          don' feel bad...druthb wasn't able to fix that wreck up, either.
01:28 druthb          Yes, this truck is a stinkin' chevy.
01:28 Agent_Dani      I got it for $0 so I wasn't complaining too much.
01:29 Agent_Dani      These days I have the chick car with a vanity tag that makes computer geeks chuckle.
01:29 druthb          Mine's a 1992 K2500 (3/4 ton, 350 engine.)
01:30 Brooke          chick car? Do tell.
01:30 Brooke          <Warning, doing so might permalabel you as femme.>
01:30 Agent_Dani      http://whitrel.com/not-a-bug.jpg
01:31 Agent_Dani      I think I already have that label.
01:31 Brooke          meeeeh
01:31 Brooke          could be more embarassing
01:31 Agent_Dani      No doubt.
01:31 Brooke          could be pink with daisies or jello with bubbles
01:31 Agent_Dani      $SO is looking for daisy decals to paste on it - she has named it Daisy.
01:32 Brooke          what's that white stuff on it's roof?
01:32 Agent_Dani      Some frozen crap that fell from the sky a couple times this year. Haven't figured that out; I was told it doesn't happen in the Triangle. ;)
01:32 Brooke          where's the 53? Can't find it...
01:33 Agent_Dani      There's a small part of me wishes I'd been able to keep the land yacht when we moved, but that wasn't in the cards.
01:34 * Brooke        dated a chap a loooooong time ago that had a 70s LTD
01:34 Brooke          naught has been a land boat ever since.
01:34 Agent_Dani      This was a '59 Buick Electra.
01:34 Brooke          meh close
01:34 Brooke          he was crestfallen when I told him I would have preferred a hearse.
01:34 Brooke          since he was gonna buy one
01:34 Brooke          but thought that chicks wouldn't dig it
01:35 Agent_Dani      >.<
01:35 Agent_Dani      Grim Rides rock
01:35 Brooke          indeed!!
01:35 Brooke          Ethan's 77 Trans Am was a bigger chick magnet than my 79 Esprit
01:35 Brooke          but uh
01:35 Brooke          more mpg
01:35 Brooke          yeah, that's the ticket ;)
01:35 Agent_Dani      hehe
01:36 * Agent_Dani    had a Camaro at one point...
01:36 Brooke          omg
01:36 Brooke          borrowed one of those
01:36 Agent_Dani      The real fun was driving that from PA to SC...in August, with no AC.
01:36 Brooke          and they put the freggin switch for the brights on the floor during the same model runs
01:36 Brooke          couldn't find em
01:36 Brooke          yeee haw!
01:36 Brooke          the little mister had a 82 prelude
01:36 Brooke          with no heat
01:36 Brooke          in the winter
01:36 Brooke          in Albany
01:37 Brooke          it was clearly a plot.
01:38 Brooke          http://www.archive.org/stream/newzealandoffic12deptgoog/newzealandoffic12deptgoog_djvu.txt
01:38 Brooke          with friend like OCR, who needs enemies?
01:41 Agent_Dani      Ah, yes, dimmer switches on the floor...I remember that in the '71 F250 we had on the farm. I also remember when it became inoperable. :)
01:42 Agent_Dani      The floorboard rusted away enough that I went to press it one time and pushed it through the floor.
01:42 Brooke          a yep
01:42 Brooke          I think mahn were in the normal place on the esprit
01:42 Brooke          long time ago then
01:43 Agent_Dani      I learned to drive on that truck...it was 20 by the time I was and already on its third bed.
01:44 Brooke          heh
01:44 Brooke          my main rule to buying cars is that unless it's listed as classic, it mustn't be older than me
01:45 Brooke          not such a great rule any more XD
01:45 Agent_Dani      heh
01:45 Agent_Dani      With you there.
01:45 Brooke          another biggy is that it should only have 2 doors. The Prius still fits since it's got 2 doors per engine. >.> <.<
01:46 Agent_Dani      Nice technicality!
01:46 Brooke          :)
01:48 * druthb        stumbles out the door, and heads for bed.
01:48 Brooke          night
02:17 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6528] Cataloging search issues - Holdings not displayed in location column <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6528>
02:47 BobB            Hi rangi, are you about?
02:47 rangi           yup
02:48 BobB            Hi there.
02:48 rangi           heya
02:48 BobB            Have you ever experienced problems exporting data from Alice?
02:48 rangi           hmm we dont do exports
02:48 rangi           we get the clients to do them
02:48 BobB            A client has exported a file but not all the records are in it.  Maybe 10% are missing.
02:49 rangi           1/ we dont have the license to use the software,  2/ i dont want to know how they work
02:49 BobB            All true.  :)
02:49 rangi           how are they getting it out? using the system or the underlying db?
02:50 BobB            mtj suggested maybe bad characters.  I can't think why else they wouldn't find all their records.
02:50 BobB            They are using a menu option, afaik
02:51 BobB            I have never seen the Alice interface.
02:51 rangi           well, most proprietary systems are crap, so getting it from the db itself under the hood is usually how our clients end up getting stuff out
02:51 BobB            But then they need vendor assistance?
02:51 BobB            or cooperation at least?
02:52 rangi           nope
02:52 rangi           usually they are running on top of some database system, and you just query it
02:52 rangi           i dont know with alice, but yeah, there are tons of reasons why it might not export all the records
02:53 BobB            So I'll ask if he has DB access - good thought
02:53 rangi           if you cant get that
02:53 rangi           youd have to try and find a pattern
02:53 rangi           in the ones not being exported
02:53 mtj             yeah, dont use dynix for the export, just query the universe db instead , etc
02:53 mtj             ...  if your client was running dynix (of course)
02:54 mtj             heya folks :)
02:54 BobB            Alright, well that's another suggestion I can make.
02:55 BobB            Hi Mason!
03:32 Amit_Gupta      heya chris
03:32 Amit_Gupta      good morning ;)
03:39 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6656] Default sort preferences ignored on advanced search <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6656>
03:41 rangi           hi Amit_Gupta
03:54 eythian         http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/5521175/Hurricane-Irene-just-like-Wellington <-- haha
04:21 ketchup         ketchup goes to sleep
04:51 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6704] merging records cuts off fields at quotation marks <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6704>
04:56 eythian         Has anyone found the translations putting spurious commas all throughout the OPAC in 3.4.4?
05:15 francharb       morning everyone
05:15 mtj             heya francharb
05:20 BobB            Has kmkale been in this channel recently?
05:22 mtj             @seen kmkale
05:22 huginn          mtj: kmkale was last seen in #koha 1 week, 2 days, 21 hours, 33 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <kmkale> Namaskar #koha
05:22 eythian         that looks like a no :)
05:23 mtj             9 days ago...
05:25 BobB            Thx, I wanted an update on KohaCon.  I'll email him.
05:33 * Oak           waves
06:09 cait            good morning #koha
06:10 alex_a          hi #koha !
06:11 cait            hi alex_a :)
06:16 alex_a          bonjour cait :)
06:24 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6724] Holds Ratio does not allow decimals <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6724>
06:37 reiveune        hello
06:37 wahanui         niihau, reiveune
06:39 Amit_Gupta      @seen kmkale
06:39 huginn          Amit_Gupta: kmkale was last seen in #koha 1 week, 2 days, 22 hours, 50 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <kmkale> Namaskar #koha
06:39 Amit_Gupta      @seen Amit_Gupta
06:39 huginn          Amit_Gupta: Amit_Gupta was last seen in #koha 16 seconds ago: <Amit_Gupta> @seen kmkale
06:40 eythian         what's the difference between away and afk?
06:41 magnuse         for me, away = logged off, afk = logged on but not necessarily at the keyboard (but i might drop by from time to time)
06:41 magnuse         ...and kia ora, #koha
06:42 eythian         hi :)
06:50 * magnuse       is off to look at eythians man page patch
07:05 eythian         new packages uploading
07:06 eythian         s/uploading/uploaded/
07:08 sophie_m        hi #koha
07:25 magnuse         eythian++
07:34 * magnuse       ponders setting up a twitter account for GBSD
07:44 rangi           evening
07:46 magnuse         morning
07:47 reiveune        re
07:55 kf              hi #koha
07:55 magnuse         hiya kf
07:55 kf              hiya magnuse :)
07:56 rangi           hi kf
07:56 kf              hi rangi :)
07:56 kf              you have been busy!
07:56 rangi           ?
07:57 rangi           oh fixing bugs?
07:57 wahanui         i heard fixing bugs was the best way to do that
07:57 kf              your patches are on top of my pile of mails
07:57 kf              yep
07:58 rangi           ahh
08:00 kf              bonjour sophie_m
08:00 magnuse         we have our work cut out for us on friday - next gbsd?
08:01 magnuse         next gbsd?
08:01 wahanui         next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2011-09-02_Global_bug_squashing_day
08:01 kf              lots of things to do yes :)
08:05 rangi           yep 88
08:07 magnuse         way too many!
08:07 magnuse         i will send out a reminder about gbsd shortly
08:07 kf              yes, we need to sqash them
08:07 rangi           yeah they have been building up over the last 3 weeks
08:08 kf              some more hands on those were good
08:08 magnuse         hopefully the approaching deadlines for 3.6 should give some encouragement
08:10 magnuse         i'm playing with twitter and twitterfeed.com to create a stream of bugs that have changed status: http://twitter.com/#!/KohaGBSD
08:10 kf              :)
08:10 rangi           cool
08:10 magnuse         the idea is to turn it on for gbsd
08:10 kf              magnuse++
08:10 rangi           good idea
08:10 magnuse         and add #kohails, of course
08:10 magnuse         thanks
08:12 magnuse         kia ora paul_p
08:13 paul_p          hello magnus & al
08:13 rangi           hi paul_p, good holiday?
08:13 paul_p          back from vacation. Lot of mails to deal with... will probably spend the day on reading/answering all of them
08:13 kf              hi paul_p - already back from your vacation?
08:14 magnuse         time flies when you're having fun! ;-)
08:14 paul_p          rangi, yep. except a small problem with the car when driving back, that made us arrive at home at 1:30 AM ...
08:14 rangi           yuck
08:14 paul_p          rangi, french players in the plane heading to NZ at this time...
08:14 rangi           yup
08:15 magnuse         rangi: how did the match against Oz go?
08:15 rangi           not well, 25-20 to australia, but probably good in the long run
08:15 magnuse         huh?
08:16 rangi           because world cup starts in just over a week
08:16 rangi           good to get a reality check
08:16 magnuse         ah yes
08:17 rangi           nz vs tonga, first game on the 9/9
08:19 magnuse         and it's in nz, right?
08:19 rangi           yup
08:21 kf              330 mails from koha-bugs...
08:21 kf              ugh!
08:21 rangi           heh
08:21 kf              I was only away for less than 5 days
08:22 rangi           i have filters, that filter them into 'signed off' 'needs signoff' etc
08:22 kf              hm, perhaps next time
08:22 magnuse         filters++
08:22 kf              for now I am going to mark them 'read' *ducks*
08:23 * magnuse       does that sometimes too...
08:35 magnuse         hm, no response from http://bugs.koha-community.org/ ?
08:38 kf              hm
08:38 kf              same here it seems
08:38 rangi           ill look
08:39 rangi           its swapping
08:39 rangi           someone/something is working it hard
08:40 kf              hm
08:41 rangi           hmm something is trying to show tons of bugs at once
08:41 rangi           not you magnuse ?
08:41 kf              paul_p: working on your rfcs?
08:41 kf              nah, probably still reading mails :)
08:42 rangi           soon as i get it under control ill lcheck the logs and find out
08:43 * kf            imagines rangi riding a gigantic bug...
08:44 kf              does this make any sense? probably not
08:44 * kf            goes bakc to reading mails
08:45 magnuse         rangi: hope not - i have been telling twitterfeed about some feeds, but limited to last 3 or 4 days
08:45 magnuse         2 or 3 even
08:45 magnuse         i'll delete them if they are causing trouble
08:45 rangi           ill find out when i can get back on the console :)
08:46 magnuse         yikes
08:48 paul_p          kf, yep, reading emails...
08:48 paul_p          and in 10mn a meeting with someone applying to be hired as librarian project manager
08:49 rangi           hmmm i think gmcharlt
08:50 rangi           ah no, thats the wiki
08:50 kf              paul_p: busy first day!
08:50 paul_p          yep ;-)
08:50 kf              :)
08:52 rangi           back
08:53 rangi           magnuse: were you using http://gnip.com/ ?
08:53 magnuse         rangi: nope, twitterfeed.com
08:54 magnuse         unless twitterfeed uses gnip in the background...
08:54 rangi           hmm
08:55 rangi           started about 1 hour ago
08:55 rangi           0.18.121.47 - - [28/Aug/2011:19:56:34 +0000] "HEAD /bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6716 HTTP/1.1" 200 295 "-" "UnwindFetchor/1.0 (+http://www.gnip.com/)"
08:55 rangi           184.72.46.206 - - [28/Aug/2011:19:56:34 +0000] "HEAD /bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6716 HTTP/1.1" 200 295 "-" "UnwindFetchor/1.0 (+http://www.gnip.com/)"
08:55 rangi           lots of that
08:56 magnuse         HEAD requests? hm
08:58 rangi           ill keep an eye on it
08:58 rangi           happy enough at the moment
08:58 magnuse         i have deactivated the feeds on twitterfeed.com, see if that helps
09:02 rangi           happy enough at the moment
09:02 rangi           ive wound down max clients too, so it shouldnt happen again
09:09 magnuse         i reactivated on twitterfeed.com, so we can see what happens
09:09 rangi           cool
09:10 magnuse         is there a trick to find recently closed bugs? i tried "Status" changed to "CLOSED" under "Search By Change History" but got no hits?
09:10 rangi           try resolved - fixed
09:12 rangi           we dont close bugs much, just mark them resolved
09:12 magnuse         ah, i'm getting the words mixed up... ;-) thanks
09:12 rangi           ill go closing when i do the 3.6.0 release
09:12 magnuse         yay
09:12 rangi           http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/posts/Work_for_3.6.x/
09:13 kf              :)
09:13 rangi           everything on this list, (which is what is in master at the mo) ill go close
09:13 * magnuse       hopes rangi has a script or something for that ;-)
09:13 rangi           yep
09:19 rangi           paul_p: http://www.appbrain.com/app/rugbyheaven-rwc-2011/nz.co.stuff.rwc
09:19 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6803] Removing remote include in MODS xslt <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6803>
09:24 marcelr         hi koha
09:24 rangi           hi marcelr
09:24 kf              hi marcelr :)
09:25 marcelr         does anyone know how to resolve this error from git send-email: fatal: 6803-mods-xsl-v35.patch: 2536: patch contains a line longer than 998 characters
09:26 kf              send it as attachement :(
09:26 kf              that's what I did in the past
09:26 kf              or pull request
09:26 rangi           pull request is better, for a big patch like that
09:27 marcelr         i'll see what i can do
10:18 algent          hello
10:18 wahanui         que tal, algent
10:18 algent          where are you from?
10:19 magnuse         algent: wahanui is a bot, truing to be friendly... ;-)
10:46 Brooke          0/
10:46 druthb          g'morning!
10:46 Brooke          mornin' miss.
10:46 druthb          @wunder sioux falls, sd
10:46 huginn          druthb: The current temperature in Sioux Falls, South Dakota is 13.0�C (4:56 AM CDT on August 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
10:47 druthb          uh-huh.  this explains *much*, it does.
10:47 Brooke          storms a rollin' in
10:47 druthb          frickin' COLD.
10:49 * druthb        digs out her cloak
10:52 Brooke          ha! you think that's cold that way XD
10:52 kf1             hm
10:52 kf1             what was this?
10:53 Brooke          nuffin'. Certain little lady has no idea what actual chill is in her neighbourhood, is all. *duck*
10:53 druthb          :P
10:54 druthb          Had to get up in the middle of the night and get out the extra blanket.  Mite chilly here, when you're laying still.
10:54 * Brooke        looks at the floor.
10:54 druthb          :P
10:55 Brooke          How about those Mets?
10:55 druthb          :P
10:55 druthb          Silly Brooke!  *hug*
10:55 magnuse         o/
10:55 magnuse         @wunder boo
10:55 druthb          hi, magnuse!
10:55 Brooke          hey magnus
10:55 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0�C (12:20 PM CEST on August 29, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Steady).
10:56 kf              @wunder Konstanz
10:56 huginn          kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 20.0�C (12:53 PM CEST on August 29, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Falling).
10:57 Brooke          Yes! We get Jose back!  http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110827&content_id=23846464&vkey=news_nym&c_id=nym
10:57 * Brooke        sings Jose, Jose, Jose, Jose...
10:58 Brooke          would you say it's cold in Bodo, Magnus?
10:59 magnuse         Brooke: nah, quite pleasant for the end of august
11:00 * Brooke        titters.
11:00 * druthb        shivers.
11:00 druthb          @wunder sioux falls, sd
11:00 huginn          druthb: The current temperature in Sioux Falls, South Dakota is 13.0�C (4:56 AM CDT on August 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
11:00 wahanui         i already had it that way, huginn.
11:00 magnuse         hehe
11:00 druthb          she's picking on me, magnuse, because I *am* cold.  much cooler here than in indianapolis last week.
11:00 magnuse         i have a slightly open window 50cm from where i'm sitting
11:01 kf              13 sounds quite nice
11:01 * kf            hides
11:01 * Brooke        covers her mouth with her hand.
11:01 druthb          See, I'd like that.  I have a completely open roof with a thin sheet of nylon fabric over it about that far over my head.
11:02 magnuse         :-)
11:02 Brooke          "And I've cursed the life when winter days were dawning"
11:02 Brooke          http://www.celticlyricscorner.net/cherish/freeborn.htm
11:04 Brooke          Oh, Cubbies, ye're even further back than my Mets. *sigh* At least Boston is leading the Evil Empire...
11:06 * magnuse       wanders off to find lunch
11:18 Brooke          0/
11:34 Agent_Dani      \o
11:52 Brooke          0/
11:54 Brooke          pfft
11:54 * Brooke        still can't upload an image to the bloody wiki.
11:55 kf              Brooke: waht format is your image
11:55 kf              ?
11:55 Brooke          jpg
11:55 Brooke          it's an accepted format
11:55 Brooke          the upload page has been tossing errors since feb
11:55 kf              and waht is your error message?
11:55 Brooke          it's still can't write to public. It displays the categories now, but it won't respect that I check one.
11:57 Brooke          "The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver."
12:00 kf              ah
12:33 oleonard        Happy Monday #koha
12:55 druthb          o/
12:56 magnuse         \o
12:56 Agent_Dani      \o
12:56 druthb          \o/
12:59 oleonard        <o>
13:00 druthb          Hi, oleonard! :)
13:00 Agent_Dani      /o\
13:03 libsysguy       paul_p: you around?
13:03 druthb          hi, libsysguy!
13:04 libsysguy       omg druthb you are alive!!!
13:04 druthb          For some value of "alive", yes.  :)
13:04 Agent_Dani      Memorex?
13:04 libsysguy       if(alive_analogue >0) alive = true;
13:06 libsysguy       so I hear that we are going to have to start playing where in the world is druthb
13:06 druthb          hee hee.
13:06 druthb          There's a calendar up on my blog, but I'm in Sioux Falls this week.
13:06 magnuse         now you see her, now you don't
13:06 oleonard        See, it's not much of a game if she tells.
13:06 magnuse         they seek her here, they seek her there...
13:07 magnuse         ah, but does she tell the truth, i wonder?
13:07 druthb          I think the calendar is up through the middle of October at this point.  We're on one-week sprints, due to some appointments I have here and there.
13:08 libsysguy       for some reason druthb i keep typing librarygeekgurl.net
13:08 libsysguy       lol
13:08 druthb          lol
13:08 libsysguy       ohh sprints...like with agile methodology
13:08 druthb          no, like driving 800 miles as fast as you can on a weekend, whilst doing a go-live.
13:08 druthb          (which is what we did this weekend.)
13:08 libsysguy       wow
13:09 libsysguy       gives druthb a boss badge
13:09 Agent_Dani      druthb: Okay, you have me beat.
13:09 druthb          Next weekend is easy-peasy...three day weekend, and only 386 miles to drive.  Relaxin'.
13:09 * Agent_Dani    figured 750 in August, in a Camaro with no AC, and in the South was pretty hard core.
13:10 libsysguy       druthb: this is for you http://instantboss.org/
13:10 druthb          that is pretty hard-core, yeah.
13:10 Agent_Dani      386?! I've done that in a single day on two wheels! :)
13:10 druthb          we don't have any AC in our truck, either, but it wasn't bad this weekend.
13:10 * Agent_Dani    nods
13:11 libsysguy       Agent_Dani what do you ride...just curious
13:11 druthb          Pittsburgh -> Indianapolis the week before...that was fierce.
13:11 Agent_Dani      No AC on the bike, either, but I get a great breeze.
13:11 Agent_Dani      libsysguy: http://whitrel.com/VaPBaC.jpg
13:12 Agent_Dani      druthb: In fairness, we didn't realize we'd have no AC when we set out from PA that day...
13:12 libsysguy       ohh see you get to ride in comfort lol
13:12 libsysguy       aww did you get it fixed yet druthb
13:12 Agent_Dani      Yep.
13:12 druthb          nope.  I *think* it's just low refrigerant, because it is cooling a little when you turn it on.
13:12 Agent_Dani      druthb: Hopefully it's a once and done repair for that...
13:13 oleonard        I complained to my wife that my AC only worked when the car was moving. She said, Honey, that's called a window.
13:13 * Agent_Dani    snerks
13:13 Agent_Dani      I remember that with the C30 we had on the farm.
13:13 libsysguy       oleonard: I think you got owned
13:14 Agent_Dani      When the AC checked out soon after we got it my father refused to get it fixed...
13:14 Agent_Dani      libsysguy: I've had that Voyager a bit over a year and have averaged 1k miles a month.
13:14 libsysguy       http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Gallery%20B/Honda%20CBR%201000RR%20Rrepsol%2009.jpg
13:14 libsysguy       its a little harder for me to put in a lot of miles
13:17 wizzyrea        mornin trea
13:17 magnuse         kia ora trea
13:17 trea            good morning koha
13:17 trea            kia ora magnuse
13:19 paul_p          libsysguy, i'm here now. back from meeting
13:20 libsysguy       hey paul_p I was just going to ask you about your singing and dancing machine
13:20 paul_p          ???
13:20 libsysguy       is that you that posted to the devel list about a machine with an SSD?
13:22 magnuse         could have been another paul. especially if it was in the last couple of weeks...
13:22 libsysguy       oh yeah...i guess i just assumed it was our paul_p
13:22 * libsysguy     smiles sheepishly
13:22 wizzyrea        you mean paul, the tired old sysadmin?
13:22 wizzyrea        because that's definitely not our paul_p
13:22 druthb          too much fast motorcycling addles the brain, libsysguy.
13:22 wizzyrea        ^^
13:23 druthb          wizzyrea!     *grins*
13:23 libsysguy       hehe
13:23 wizzyrea        (no, seriously, he signs his mail like that)
13:23 magnuse         but paul_p has been known to sing and dance...
13:23 wizzyrea        hi druthb!
13:23 wizzyrea        a haka, no less :)
13:23 * druthb        pictures libsysguy tearing around the piney woods of east TX on his CBR.
13:23 * magnuse       has the pictures to prove it!
13:23 * wizzyrea      is sad to have not seen it
13:23 wizzyrea        ooo there are pictures
13:23 magnuse         next time, wizzyrea!
13:24 wizzyrea        *nod*
13:24 * druthb        is staying at a new campground chain for her, this week..    It's...uhm...targeted at families with smaller kids, but the price is right, and it has more trees here than the rest of SD that I've seen...
13:24 druthb          But Lindsey was *mortified* when Yogi Bear came to visit our campsite.
13:25 paul_p          magnuse, i've been known to dance (the aka), but not to sing (at least in Koha world ;-) )
13:25 paul_p          libsysguy, we have a SSD server for our migrations, but it's not me that talked about it recently iirc
13:26 paul_p          and yes, there's another "paul" that just signs "paul", it's not me, my signature is always Paul Poulain or paul_p
13:26 Agent_Dani      libsysguy: I do believe that would be a bit more difficult...proabably more than when I did 500 straight on a Nighthawk 750 (CB750.)
13:31 oleonard        Anyone else getting XISBN errors in their OPAC error log?
13:32 libsysguy       I've done 300 on that thing and I thought I was going to die
13:32 Agent_Dani      libsysguy: FYI, I'm looking for an EN-6f (or EN-6n) to use as a commuter and the like. The Voyager is great for distance, but...
13:32 Agent_Dani      I believe it.
13:33 Agent_Dani      The one thing I miss about that CB750 was the fuel economy. Doing 70MPH on the interstate and not doing worse than 50MPG.
13:33 jcamins         Good morning, #koha
13:33 trea            morning jcamins
13:33 druthb          hi, jcamins.  :)
13:33 libsysguy       yeah I understand...its weird mine at 70 gets around 45 but around 120 gets 60
13:34 libsysguy       morning jcamins
13:34 wizzyrea        I see you managed to not get blown away
13:34 jcamins         It was a bit anticlimactic.
13:34 * wizzyrea      is glad
13:34 * magnuse       too
13:35 * Agent_Dani    agrees
13:35 jcamins         Yeah, we were, too.
13:35 oleonard        Yes, now the TV news blame game starts: Why did we prepare so well?! What a waste of time!!
13:35 Agent_Dani      I didn't lose power but a bunch of people near where I live did; can't image how it was any distance east of me.
13:35 magnuse         oleonard: i was just waiting for that...
13:35 jcamins         Agent_Dani: I hear in parts of NJ the power's going to be out for days, if not weeks.
13:39 jcamins         oleonard: do you have a jQuery plugin you like for dropdown menus?
13:39 Agent_Dani      jcamins: I imagine so...similar to coastal NC.
13:39 oleonard        jcamins: No, in fact that's what I've been waiting for in order to complete Bug 5481
13:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5481 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Replace YUI JS libraries with Jquery UI
13:40 oleonard        jcamins: There is a jqueryUI native menu widget in development
13:40 jcamins         oleonard: alas. I've decided to redo my website, and I'm having issues with the dropdown menus.
13:40 oleonard        For all my hate of YUI, I do like their menus--even though they're a pain to set up.
13:41 jcamins         I only need very simple menus. But they need to be _above_ the main body of the text, and z-index doesn't appear to do anything for me.
13:42 nengard         good morning #koha - I am with a new Koha library we're on day one of training
13:42 * oleonard      waves to new Koha library in training
13:43 magnuse         nengard: woohoo ;-)
13:43 * magnuse       waves too
13:43 druthb          good morning!  *wave*
13:44 * tcohen        waves at druthb
13:44 druthb          :D  hi, tcohen!
13:44 Agent_Dani      druthb: Yogi sure gets around...he was at DBAP this weekend. ;)
13:44 druthb          :)
13:45 nengard         okay time to log off and train :)
13:45 wizzyrea        huh. http://screencast.com/t/aR1WCzPiF
13:45 wizzyrea        hi and by... oh bother
13:45 druthb          Was funny watching Lindsey's reaction...the guy pulls up in a golf cart, with Yogi as a passenger, and he says, "Yogi likes to come around a visit new guests to the camp!"
13:46 druthb          Apparently, they make the rounds about 1800, of newly-filled sites.
13:46 wizzyrea        lol wow
13:46 druthb          this is a classy camp, though--When we checked in, a kid in a golf cart escorted us to our site, showed us its' boundaries, and asked if he could fetch anything for us.
13:47 druthb          this site is larger--and flatter--than our site in Indy.  Not very shady; the trees are still a little young.
13:48 kf              yogi the bear?
13:48 druthb          the same.  :)
13:48 druthb          www.jellystonesiouxfalls.com
13:49 jcamins         Woohoo! It works!
13:50 druthb          The reviews for Jellystone parks tend to have lots of grumpy oldsters complaining about the kids.  I just wanna tell 'em, fine, go to KOA.  The one here in Sioux Falls is very big-rig friendly--no tent sites with power....  Jellystone markets families with small kids *really* hard.
13:52 jcamins         druthb: if there's no power, how are you working?
13:52 druthb          I'm not at the unpowered KOA..  :)  I'm at the Jellystone park, where the tent sites *do* have power.
13:52 jcamins         Ah. I see.
13:53 druthb          we normally choose KOA--I'm on the value-card program, and get 10% off.  But I was pleased to discover that this part is also a Good Sam park, so I got 10% off for *that.*  :D
13:53 magnuse         wow, living the simple life sounds complicated ;-)
13:53 Agent_Dani      hehe
13:53 druthb          $22.50 a night, for a commercial campground with wi-fi and wicked-hot showers?  What's not to like.
13:53 * Agent_Dani    is cribbing notes for her hopeful future cross-country motorcycle ride.
13:54 druthb          It's helpful to get a deck of memberships.  KOA Value-Kard ($24), Good Sam ($20, if you register at a park, rather than online), Happy Campers ($30, I think), AAA, etc.
13:56 druthb          Full-timers also tend to join Escapees, but I've not done that yet.  Buncha cranky old coots, and not that many parks give discounts.
13:56 jcamins         windows--
13:57 jcamins         ie--
13:57 kf              ie--
13:57 druthb          ie--
13:57 magnuse         ie--
13:57 druthb          @most decreased
13:57 huginn          druthb: "<!": 111, "failed": 67, "-": 40, "<-": 34, "ie": 28, "ptfs": 15, "--><!": 14, "liblime": 12, "src="<!": 11, "monday": 10, "C4::Search": 9, "-rw-r--r": 9, "zebra": 9, "windows": 8, "marc": 8, " is not a known MakeMaker parameter name. ": 6, "patron<!": 6, "jsp": 6, "me": 6, "^": 6, "jerks": 6, "rangi": 5, "oleonard": 5, "problem": 5, and "is": 5
13:57 druthb          IE is down 28...keep 'em coming.
13:57 trea            ha
13:57 trea            ie--
13:58 druthb          lol
13:58 kf              hi trea :)
13:58 * oleonard      wonders what rangi and he did to get downvoted
13:58 wizzyrea        I bet it was pianohacker.
13:58 wizzyrea        :)
13:58 druthb          Blame the youth.
13:59 wizzyrea        or someone putitng the karma back in balance
13:59 trea            o/ good morning kf :D
13:59 druthb          druthb--
13:59 huginn          druthb: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
13:59 wizzyrea        @karma oleonard
13:59 huginn          wizzyrea: Karma for "oleonard" has been increased 320 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 315.
13:59 druthb          :P
13:59 druthb          @most increased
13:59 huginn          druthb: "rangi": 396, "oleonard": 320, "gmcharlt": 268, "wizzyrea": 218, "chris_n": 204, "nengard": 185, "cait": 156, "sekjal": 141, "druthb": 119, "paul_p": 111, "slef": 96, "jcamins": 94, "magnuse": 70, "kf": 69, "hdl_laptop": 60, "hdl": 56, "jwagner": 53, "atz": 44, "biblibre": 42, "thd": 42, "eythian": 39, "pianohacker": 39, "larsw": 37, "fredericd": 32, and "Colin": 27
13:59 oleonard        karma back in balance? That didn't work out so well for the Jedi.
13:59 wahanui         back in balance? that didn't work out so well for the jedi. has neutral karma
13:59 jcamins         ie-- # why won't you let me access my website? It's my own website.
14:00 wizzyrea        some day wahanui is going to come back with that and we're all going to be amazed by his wisdom.
14:00 kf              oh
14:00 * kf            sends cookies
14:00 magnuse         kf++
14:01 jcamins         What do you mean "No internet access"? It's an unroutable VLAN. Of course it doesn't access the Internet. Just access the stupid site anyway.
14:01 druthb          wahanui: druthb?
14:01 wahanui         you are a travelin' woman.
14:01 jcamins         ?!?
14:02 jcamins         Telnet is no longer included with Windows?
14:03 magnuse         what about tel.net?
14:03 kf              perhaps offline mode?
14:03 kf              ie I mean
14:04 jcamins         kf: ah, that's a good idea.
14:06 jcamins         Sadly, that's not the problem.
14:06 jcamins         Okay, the site works in FF on Windows.
14:07 wizzyrea        try putting the address for your site in your allowed security zone?
14:07 wizzyrea        in IE
14:08 * jcamins       disables all security features.
14:09 jcamins         Wow.
14:09 jcamins         This may be the dumbest problem ever.
14:09 oleonard        In what way does IE not show the site?
14:09 jcamins         oleonard: it didn't load at all.
14:09 jcamins         I figured out the problem.
14:10 jcamins         IE doesn't use HTTP by default.
14:10 oleonard        Uh-wha?
14:10 jcamins         Ive gotten used to non-stupid browsers where you can enter a domain name and it will automatically load the page with HTTP.
14:10 jcamins         s/Ive/I've/
14:10 jcamins         ie--
14:11 wizzyrea        you mean it doesn't prepend http:// if you're using a number?
14:11 magnuse         jcamins: you have clearly been spoilt!
14:11 jcamins         Right.
14:11 wizzyrea        it tries to search instead
14:12 * wizzyrea      suspects that chrome would have the same stupidity
14:12 jcamins         Nope. Works correctly in Chrome.
14:12 oleonard        jcamins: You mean you put in "google.com" in IE and it tries to search?
14:12 jcamins         oleonard: well, don't know about Google.
14:12 * wizzyrea      likes to be wrong about stuff like that. Enhances my righteous indignation at microsoft
14:12 jcamins         In this case, the URL was 192.168.56.101:4000
14:12 jcamins         Works in Chrome, Firefox, and Safari.
14:13 jcamins         In IE, it flips out, and will not do anything.
14:13 jcamins         Add http:// at the beginning, and suddenly everything's copasetic.
14:13 jcamins         I mean, other than the fact that you're still using IE, which makes you sad.
14:27 kf              heh
14:28 jcamins         Apparently IE5.5 and IE7 do not like the latest jQuery. IE6 is perfectly fine with it.
14:32 oleonard        What about IE4? Maybe it's an even-number thing.
14:33 jcamins         oleonard: I don't think I can test in IE4 with a Mac and a Windows 7 VM.
14:33 oleonard        Wow, Bug 6528 was just a dumb variable name error.
14:33 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6528 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cataloging search issues - Holdings not displayed in location column
14:33 * wizzyrea      studies that patch closely
14:33 oleonard        jcamins: I would never actually suggest you test IE4.
14:33 wizzyrea        oleonard++ thanks for poking at that
14:34 * wizzyrea      did not try that particular permutation of variable names
14:34 oleonard        wizzyrea: It's rangi's patch, I'm just testing.
14:34 jcamins         oleonard: good. I figure if someone is using IE4, there's really no hope for them.
14:35 oleonard        I'm feeling that way about IE6 these days.
14:35 jcamins         IE4 probably didn't even support CSS, did it?
14:36 jcamins         Oh, it did! Wow! Well, at least insofar as IE supported standards at all.
14:37 wizzyrea        rangi++
14:37 oleonard        There was a time when IE6 was genuinely the best browser out there, after Netscape 4 bloated up.
14:38 oleonard        It wasn't until the Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox betas started coming out that it changed.
15:12 reiveune        bye
15:23 rhcl            @seen wizzyrea
15:23 huginn          rhcl: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 46 minutes and 22 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> rangi++
15:23 wizzyrea        whaddup
15:27 paul_p          hi meliameggs_ I just sent you a mail !
15:29 meliameggs_     good morning, paul_p!  I'll look for your mail now.
15:29 paul_p          meliameggs_, good morning to you. For me, it's no more the morning ( 5PM ;-) )
15:46 * Oak           waves
15:49 Agent_Dani      Hi Oak
15:49 * oleonard      quits early this week
15:49 oleonard        quit
15:50 Oak             heya Agent_Dani
15:50 Oak             kia ora rangi
15:50 Oak             :)
15:51 Oak             @later tell Brooke http://www.robertbrault.com/2011/08/woman-in-check-out-line.html
15:51 huginn          Oak: The operation succeeded.
15:54 Oak             @later tell cait druthb http://www.robertbrault.com/2011/08/woman-in-check-out-line.html
15:54 huginn          Oak: The operation succeeded.
15:54 Oak             did that worked? or will cait get the message 'druthb' ?
15:54 Oak             work*
15:55 jcamins         The latter.
15:55 Oak             uh oh
15:55 Oak             @later tell cait http://www.robertbrault.com/2011/08/woman-in-check-out-line.html
15:55 huginn          Oak: The operation succeeded.
15:55 jcamins         However, druthb is logged in, so she should see that when she gets back.
15:55 Oak             @later tell druthb http://www.robertbrault.com/2011/08/woman-in-check-out-line.html
15:55 huginn          Oak: The operation succeeded.
15:55 Oak             okay cool, thank you jcamins
15:56 Oak             so we cannot tell multiple persons something in one go?
15:56 jcamins         That is correct.
15:56 Oak             are you a bot too jcamins ?
15:56 jcamins         For people who are always logged in and idling, generally we'll see when people say our names when we get back to the computer.
15:57 Oak             kidding :)
15:57 jcamins         Nope.
15:57 jcamins         I'm logged on enough that I could be. ;)
15:57 wizzyrea        hee
15:57 Oak             heh
15:57 jcamins         In two hours, I'll have been logged into #koha for 50 days.
15:57 Oak             :-0
16:02 Oak             hmm, I don't understand this: " Time is a figure eight, at its center the city of Deja Vu. ~Robert Brault"
16:05 indradg         hi folks
16:06 jcamins         Oak: it's a very colorful way of saying that things repeat in cycles.
16:06 Oak             aah
16:06 Oak             oh yes!
16:06 Oak             got it.
16:07 Oak             thanks...
16:09 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6804] If IndependantBranches and AutoLocation enabled, OPAC login does not redirect properly outside IP range <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6804>
16:23 rhcl            @seen gmcharlt
16:23 huginn          rhcl: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 3 days, 18 hours, 4 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> heading home, laters
16:23 gmcharlt        rhcl: howdy
16:23 wahanui         niihau, gmcharlt
16:25 rhcl            gmcharlt: et al: we can go off-line if necessary...
16:26 rhcl            OK, so I'm working w/ the local university where I got my MAS. They need upper level programming projects and one MS level programming project.
16:27 rhcl            Koha is a big beaste, and none of these people are librarians, so there's no way they could get spun up on a Koha dev project in any reasonable amount of time
16:27 druthb          pity.
16:28 jcamins         rhcl: are you sure? I bet rangi could think of a project on Koha that doesn't require any knowledge of libraries.
16:28 wizzyrea        ^^
16:28 rhcl            On my back burner I've been really burning to look at a public access control system, possibly based on libki or jw's powerline
16:28 wizzyrea        gamifying it, for example.
16:28 wizzyrea        though that's a trivial one
16:28 wizzyrea        and mostly funstuff.
16:28 rhcl            feedback on that project?
16:28 wizzyrea        i like that too
16:28 rhcl            any other ideas?
16:29 rhcl            anything related to koha or libraries? It would all be open-source of course. Mostly they are looking for level 2-3 php, but possibly also java.
16:29 druthb          patron auto-promotion tool, to bulk-update patrons from Child types to Adult types, based on date-of-birth.
16:29 rhcl            the one grad student needing a project is supposed to be pretty sharp w/ php
16:30 wizzyrea        undebar when fines are paid
16:30 wizzyrea        (certain fines, or overdues returned)
16:30 druthb          patron self-registration screen, with a syspref to allow the library to force a category on them so they know who did that.
16:31 wizzyrea        ^^ could go with the whole computer/print management thing
16:31 wizzyrea        I think you really ought to get these guys going on that
16:31 wizzyrea        because there's not a whole lot of room for php/java in koha proper
16:32 rhcl            yea, I keep thinking that I'll get to it .... next month ... next month .... next month
16:32 jcamins         Interface between Koha and Wordpress, for the PHP.
16:32 wizzyrea        jcamins what are you thinking of?
16:32 wizzyrea        interface how?
16:32 wizzyrea        pretty sure someone's done this
16:32 jcamins         wizzyrea: there's this really cool project with Drupal, where you can put your catalog records directly in Drupal, but I don't think there's anything for Wordpress.
16:32 magnus_afk      xc?
16:33 rhcl            anyway, I have some good php coding hours available, they're looking for 4-5 projects
16:33 jcamins         Oh, does xc do anything yet?
16:33 magnus_afk      integration between koha and some cms based on sru and ils-di
16:34 jcamins         Ooh, just found what I wanted, never mind.
16:34 jcamins         Scriblio!
16:34 wizzyrea        ^^ that's what I was thinking of
16:34 wizzyrea        but i'm nt as fast as you :)
16:34 magnus_afk      jcamins: i looked over someone's shoulder at something that looked pretty far along
16:34 sekjal          rhcl:  creation of a downloadable Koha VM with a meta-tool that, once the system is installed, allows librarians to choose patches to test, and provides an easy mechanism for sign-offs
16:34 sekjal          something that obscures all the commandline, Git processes behind a GUI
16:34 magnus_afk      sekjal++
16:34 wizzyrea        that's a good one too
16:35 jcamins         I was thinking of SOPAC. That's the Drupal one.
16:35 magnus_afk      yeah, that is a very cool idea!
16:36 druthb          sekjal++
16:36 rhcl            sekjal: can you flesh out your idea a bit and email it to me?
16:36 magnus_afk      put it on the wiki!
16:37 paul_p          time to leave. Could lower mails waiting for an answer to less than 100 (98 !) but still a lot of things to do...
16:37 sekjal          rhcl:  absolutely
16:37 rhcl            tnx
16:57 libsysguy_class I have a random question.  For DB changes, why don't we just track the db schema in git?
16:57 jcamins         libsysguy_class: the schema is tracked in git.
16:57 libsysguy_class 0_0
16:57 libsysguy_class so why mess with update_database.pl
16:57 jcamins         libsysguy_class: installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql, I think.
16:58 jcamins         Because having the schema in a file managed by git doesn't get the proper updates installed into the server.
16:58 sekjal          libsysguy_class: some of the changes in updatedatabase.pl are just data, not structure
16:58 jcamins         rangi's been looking at a way to do it more sensibly.
16:58 sekjal          like new sysprefs
16:58 sekjal          up changes to default Framework descriptions
16:58 sekjal          .. *or* changes to...
17:05 libsysguy_class ohh ok
17:06 libsysguy_class It was just something I was looking into for another project and I didn't know what our reasoning was but I'm glad rangi is looking into other options because that update script can be a pain
17:14 cait            hi #koha
17:15 rhcl            hi cait
17:15 cait            hi rhcl :)
17:30 cait            hi again trea
17:35 trea            o/
17:40 jcamins         I need an opinion.
17:40 * druthb        has one.
17:41 jcamins         Should I have a link to k-c.org just on the text "Koha" in "Koha Integrated Library System" (and should the final three words be capitalized), or should I have a link on the entire phrase?
17:41 jcamins         Me, I think it looks a little better with the link on the entire phrase, but the project is the Koha project, not the Koha Integrated Library System project.
17:41 * druthb        would link the whole phrase, but YMMV
17:41 jcamins         Ta.
17:42 * druthb        likes multi-word links, given a choice.
17:42 * jcamins       too.
17:42 magnus_afk      easier to click on - bigger "surface"
17:42 druthb          ^^
17:42 druthb          catches the eye better, too
18:31 wizzyrea        cait, about?
18:35 wizzyrea        is the magical cait still on vacation?
18:36 wizzyrea        well, anyone here from bsz?
18:37 cait            here
18:37 cait            magical cait?
18:37 cait            wizzyrea?
18:37 wahanui         i think wizzyrea is amazing!
18:37 cait            :)
18:37 wizzyrea        :)
18:38 wizzyrea        do you have 3M machines?
18:38 wizzyrea        self-checks
18:38 cait            yes
18:38 cait            one of our libraries
18:38 wahanui         one of our libraries is using rfid though and another is implementing it at the moment
18:38 wizzyrea        do you have one you can *test* with*
18:38 cait            starting with them at the moment, everything installed and first tests done
18:38 wizzyrea        OH cool
18:38 wizzyrea        i wonder
18:38 wizzyrea        http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6335
18:38 huginn          04Bug 6335: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Branch not set consistently in all SIP transactions
18:38 wizzyrea        could you look into that if you have a min?
18:38 cait            hm
18:39 cait            we don't have a 3m machine to test with, but my coworker has a program to test with
18:39 cait            I was looking at the bug earlier
18:39 wizzyrea        ooo!
18:39 wizzyrea        I used to have a program... but I can't find it now >.<
18:39 cait            and wondered if you can avoid the problem by having different sip users?
18:39 cait            one for each branch?
18:39 wizzyrea        well we have that
18:39 wizzyrea        actually we only have one branch that uses SIP for circ
18:40 wizzyrea        but lots of stuff going here and there from that branch
18:41 cait            ok
18:41 cait            so there are problems with it?
18:42 cait            can you give me a test case where the problem always appears?
18:42 wizzyrea        I will try to yes
18:42 wizzyrea        actually
18:42 wizzyrea        colin gives a test plan
18:42 wizzyrea        further down
18:44 cait            hm not sure I get it
18:45 cait            ok, setting automaticitemreturn to do
18:45 cait            checkin book from branch a and branch b
18:45 cait            and it should go into transport, right?
18:45 wizzyrea        right
18:46 wizzyrea        checkin book from branch a *at* branch b
18:46 wizzyrea        so, the sip machine is assigned to branch b
18:47 wizzyrea        a book with home library of A, en route to B, when checked in through SIP should prompt to send the item home
18:48 cait1           hmpf
18:48 cait1           liz?
18:48 wizzyrea        yesm?
18:49 cait1           sorry, pluggin in my external storage froze my linux :(
18:49 wizzyrea        ah all good
18:49 wizzyrea        right
18:49 wizzyrea        [1:46p] wizzyrea:
18:49 wizzyrea        checkin book from branch a *at* branch b
18:49 wizzyrea        [1:46p] wizzyrea:
18:49 wizzyrea        so, the sip machine is assigned to branch b
18:49 wahanui         i already had it that way, wizzyrea.
18:49 wizzyrea        [1:47p] wizzyrea:
18:49 wizzyrea        a book with home library of A, en route to B, when checked in through SIP should prompt to send the item home
18:49 wizzyrea        forget the sip machine
18:49 wizzyrea        wahanui forget the sip machine
18:49 wahanui         wizzyrea, I didn't have anything matching sip machine
18:50 wizzyrea        forget so, the sip machine
18:50 wahanui         wizzyrea: I forgot so, the sip machine
18:50 cait1           sip machine xml file - branch b - sip user too?
18:50 wizzyrea        right
18:50 cait1           book from a, checkout out at b, returned at b?
18:52 wizzyrea        correct
18:52 cait1           ok
18:53 cait1           will try to test it
18:53 cait1           hope we manage this week
19:22 rhcl            congrats thatcher!
19:23 cait1           oh
19:23 cait1           what did I miss?
19:28 trea            ty ty
19:28 trea            started with bywater today
19:28 Agent_Dani      Congrats!
19:28 cait1           oh congrats
19:29 jcamins         Congratulations!
19:29 cait1           programmer/support person?
19:29 trea            mmmhm
19:30 libsysguy       sekjal you around?
19:30 libsysguy       hi trea congratualtions
19:30 trea            ty ty
19:31 wizzyrea        libsysguy?
19:31 wahanui         somebody said libsysguy was Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck
19:31 libsysguy       hehe
19:31 libsysguy       i love that one
19:31 libsysguy       yes wizzyrea
19:31 wahanui         wizzyrea is, like, amazing
19:32 * trea          chuckles
19:32 wizzyrea        I just wanted to see that
19:34 libsysguy       i always like seeing that...i told me gf about it and she was like how did wahanui know you were dating a Swede
19:34 wizzyrea        wahanui knows everything
19:34 wahanui         wizzyrea: excuse me?
19:35 hdl             trea: congrats
19:35 trea            thx hdl
19:35 jcamins         wahanui: jcamins?
19:35 wahanui         it has been said that jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. or awesome fixing broken email notifications
19:37 libsysguy       ooo jcamins i have a question for you
19:37 jcamins         libsysguy: yes?
19:37 libsysguy       so I am trying to use overlays again
19:38 libsysguy       only this time trying to match on the OCLC number
19:38 libsysguy       and its not working
19:38 libsysguy       and its frustrating
19:38 libsysguy       any pro-tips
19:38 jcamins         libsysguy: easiest thing to do is get sekjal to send you the patch that he's been working on for that issue. ;)
19:39 libsysguy       ohh man I had a hunch it was broken
19:47 jcamins         libsysguy: yup. Unfortunately so. I feel like I warned you about that, and was told that I was a real downer. :P
19:48 libsysguy       yeah you probably did but my boss has been working on it for like a week without asking me about it...so she was mad when I told her I thought it was broken
19:51 jcamins         Ah.
20:31 rhcl            time for cookies baked on George...
21:40 libsysguy       seen sekjal
21:40 wahanui         sekjal was last seen on #koha 4 hours, 41 minutes and 28 seconds ago, saying: .. *or* changes to... [Mon Aug 29 16:58:30 2011]
22:01 libsysguy       So if I wanted to do a zebra rebuild do I have to do a -r
22:01 wizzyrea        O! gotta go, bbl!
22:01 libsysguy       because we added a lot of ebooks today and the searching isn't working on the series field
22:01 cait1           search faq?
22:01 wahanui         somebody said search faq was at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/
22:01 cait1           libsysguy: only the series is not working?
22:01 cait1           the other fields are?
22:01 bg              hi there cait1
22:01 cait1           hi bg
22:01 cait            how is california?
22:02 bg              libsysguy: yeah -r -x should do the trick
22:02 cait            @wunder konstanz
22:02 huginn          cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 15.7�C (11:53 PM CEST on August 29, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady).
22:02 bg              ah I'm in florida
22:02 bg              let's see
22:02 cait            ouch
22:02 cait            I am sorry
22:02 bg              @wunder springhill, fl
22:02 huginn          bg: Error: No such location could be found.
22:02 libsysguy       aww I was hoping to not have to do that
22:02 bg              heh
22:02 bg              let's see home
22:02 bg              @wunder 93109
22:02 huginn          bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 24.8�C (3:01 PM PDT on August 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Falling).
22:02 bg              ah so nice
22:02 Agent_Dani      @wunder 27705
22:02 huginn          Agent_Dani: The current temperature in Huckleberry Heights, Durham, North Carolina is 22.3�C (6:02 PM EDT on August 29, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Rising).  Severe Thunderstorm Watch 816 in effect until 11 PM EDT this evening...
22:03 Agent_Dani      ...yeah, I think I'm taking the car to class and not the motorcycle, then.
22:03 bg              @wunder spring hill, fl
22:03 huginn          bg: The current temperature in Brooksville, Florida is 30.3�C (6:02 PM EDT on August 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Steady).
22:03 bg              ah feels hotter and more humid
22:10 cait            time to sleep
22:10 cait            bye all