Time  Nick            Message
22:10 cait            bye all
22:10 cait            time to sleep
22:03 bg              ah feels hotter and more humid
22:03 huginn          bg: The current temperature in Brooksville, Florida is 30.3�C (6:02 PM EDT on August 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Steady).
22:03 bg              @wunder spring hill, fl
22:03 Agent_Dani      ...yeah, I think I'm taking the car to class and not the motorcycle, then.
22:02 huginn          Agent_Dani: The current temperature in Huckleberry Heights, Durham, North Carolina is 22.3�C (6:02 PM EDT on August 29, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Rising).  Severe Thunderstorm Watch 816 in effect until 11 PM EDT this evening...
22:02 Agent_Dani      @wunder 27705
22:02 bg              ah so nice
22:02 huginn          bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 24.8�C (3:01 PM PDT on August 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Falling).
22:02 bg              @wunder 93109
22:02 bg              let's see home
22:02 bg              heh
22:02 libsysguy       aww I was hoping to not have to do that
22:02 huginn          bg: Error: No such location could be found.
22:02 bg              @wunder springhill, fl
22:02 cait            I am sorry
22:02 cait            ouch
22:02 bg              let's see
22:02 bg              ah I'm in florida
22:02 huginn          cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 15.7�C (11:53 PM CEST on August 29, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady).
22:02 cait            @wunder konstanz
22:02 bg              libsysguy: yeah -r -x should do the trick
22:01 cait            how is california?
22:01 cait1           hi bg
22:01 bg              hi there cait1
22:01 cait1           the other fields are?
22:01 cait1           libsysguy: only the series is not working?
22:01 wahanui         somebody said search faq was at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/searching/
22:01 cait1           search faq?
22:01 libsysguy       because we added a lot of ebooks today and the searching isn't working on the series field
22:01 wizzyrea        O! gotta go, bbl!
22:01 libsysguy       So if I wanted to do a zebra rebuild do I have to do a -r
21:40 wahanui         sekjal was last seen on #koha 4 hours, 41 minutes and 28 seconds ago, saying: .. *or* changes to... [Mon Aug 29 16:58:30 2011]
21:40 libsysguy       seen sekjal
20:31 rhcl            time for cookies baked on George...
19:51 jcamins         Ah.
19:48 libsysguy       yeah you probably did but my boss has been working on it for like a week without asking me about it...so she was mad when I told her I thought it was broken
19:47 jcamins         libsysguy: yup. Unfortunately so. I feel like I warned you about that, and was told that I was a real downer. :P
19:39 libsysguy       ohh man I had a hunch it was broken
19:38 jcamins         libsysguy: easiest thing to do is get sekjal to send you the patch that he's been working on for that issue. ;)
19:38 libsysguy       any pro-tips
19:38 libsysguy       and its frustrating
19:38 libsysguy       and its not working
19:38 libsysguy       only this time trying to match on the OCLC number
19:37 libsysguy       so I am trying to use overlays again
19:37 jcamins         libsysguy: yes?
19:37 libsysguy       ooo jcamins i have a question for you
19:35 wahanui         it has been said that jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. or awesome fixing broken email notifications
19:35 jcamins         wahanui: jcamins?
19:35 trea            thx hdl
19:35 hdl             trea: congrats
19:34 wahanui         wizzyrea: excuse me?
19:34 wizzyrea        wahanui knows everything
19:34 libsysguy       i always like seeing that...i told me gf about it and she was like how did wahanui know you were dating a Swede
19:32 wizzyrea        I just wanted to see that
19:32 * trea          chuckles
19:31 wahanui         wizzyrea is, like, amazing
19:31 libsysguy       yes wizzyrea
19:31 libsysguy       i love that one
19:31 libsysguy       hehe
19:31 wahanui         somebody said libsysguy was Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck
19:31 wizzyrea        libsysguy?
19:30 trea            ty ty
19:30 libsysguy       hi trea congratualtions
19:30 libsysguy       sekjal you around?
19:29 trea            mmmhm
19:29 cait1           programmer/support person?
19:29 jcamins         Congratulations!
19:28 cait1           oh congrats
19:28 Agent_Dani      Congrats!
19:28 trea            started with bywater today
19:28 trea            ty ty
19:23 cait1           what did I miss?
19:23 cait1           oh
19:22 rhcl            congrats thatcher!
18:53 cait1           hope we manage this week
18:53 cait1           will try to test it
18:52 cait1           ok
18:52 wizzyrea        correct
18:50 cait1           book from a, checkout out at b, returned at b?
18:50 wizzyrea        right
18:50 cait1           sip machine xml file - branch b - sip user too?
18:50 wahanui         wizzyrea: I forgot so, the sip machine
18:50 wizzyrea        forget so, the sip machine
18:49 wahanui         wizzyrea, I didn't have anything matching sip machine
18:49 wizzyrea        wahanui forget the sip machine
18:49 wizzyrea        forget the sip machine
18:49 wizzyrea        a book with home library of A, en route to B, when checked in through SIP should prompt to send the item home
18:49 wizzyrea        [1:47p] wizzyrea:
18:49 wahanui         i already had it that way, wizzyrea.
18:49 wizzyrea        so, the sip machine is assigned to branch b
18:49 wizzyrea        [1:46p] wizzyrea:
18:49 wizzyrea        checkin book from branch a *at* branch b
18:49 wizzyrea        [1:46p] wizzyrea:
18:49 wizzyrea        right
18:49 wizzyrea        ah all good
18:49 cait1           sorry, pluggin in my external storage froze my linux :(
18:48 wizzyrea        yesm?
18:48 cait1           liz?
18:48 cait1           hmpf
18:47 wizzyrea        a book with home library of A, en route to B, when checked in through SIP should prompt to send the item home
18:46 wizzyrea        so, the sip machine is assigned to branch b
18:46 wizzyrea        checkin book from branch a *at* branch b
18:45 wizzyrea        right
18:45 cait            and it should go into transport, right?
18:45 cait            checkin book from branch a and branch b
18:45 cait            ok, setting automaticitemreturn to do
18:44 cait            hm not sure I get it
18:42 wizzyrea        further down
18:42 wizzyrea        colin gives a test plan
18:42 wizzyrea        actually
18:42 wizzyrea        I will try to yes
18:42 cait            can you give me a test case where the problem always appears?
18:41 cait            so there are problems with it?
18:41 cait            ok
18:40 wizzyrea        but lots of stuff going here and there from that branch
18:39 wizzyrea        actually we only have one branch that uses SIP for circ
18:39 wizzyrea        well we have that
18:39 cait            one for each branch?
18:39 cait            and wondered if you can avoid the problem by having different sip users?
18:39 wizzyrea        I used to have a program... but I can't find it now >.<
18:39 wizzyrea        ooo!
18:39 cait            I was looking at the bug earlier
18:39 cait            we don't have a 3m machine to test with, but my coworker has a program to test with
18:38 cait            hm
18:38 wizzyrea        could you look into that if you have a min?
18:38 huginn          04Bug 6335: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Branch not set consistently in all SIP transactions
18:38 wizzyrea        http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6335
18:38 wizzyrea        i wonder
18:38 wizzyrea        OH cool
18:38 cait            starting with them at the moment, everything installed and first tests done
18:38 wizzyrea        do you have one you can *test* with*
18:38 wahanui         one of our libraries is using rfid though and another is implementing it at the moment
18:38 cait            one of our libraries
18:38 cait            yes
18:38 wizzyrea        self-checks
18:38 wizzyrea        do you have 3M machines?
18:37 wizzyrea        :)
18:37 cait            :)
18:37 wahanui         i think wizzyrea is amazing!
18:37 cait            wizzyrea?
18:37 cait            magical cait?
18:37 cait            here
18:36 wizzyrea        well, anyone here from bsz?
18:35 wizzyrea        is the magical cait still on vacation?
18:31 wizzyrea        cait, about?
17:42 druthb          catches the eye better, too
17:42 druthb          ^^
17:42 magnus_afk      easier to click on - bigger "surface"
17:42 * jcamins       too.
17:42 * druthb        likes multi-word links, given a choice.
17:41 jcamins         Ta.
17:41 * druthb        would link the whole phrase, but YMMV
17:41 jcamins         Me, I think it looks a little better with the link on the entire phrase, but the project is the Koha project, not the Koha Integrated Library System project.
17:41 jcamins         Should I have a link to k-c.org just on the text "Koha" in "Koha Integrated Library System" (and should the final three words be capitalized), or should I have a link on the entire phrase?
17:40 * druthb        has one.
17:40 jcamins         I need an opinion.
17:35 trea            o/
17:30 cait            hi again trea
17:15 cait            hi rhcl :)
17:15 rhcl            hi cait
17:14 cait            hi #koha
17:06 libsysguy_class It was just something I was looking into for another project and I didn't know what our reasoning was but I'm glad rangi is looking into other options because that update script can be a pain
17:05 libsysguy_class ohh ok
16:58 sekjal          .. *or* changes to...
16:58 sekjal          up changes to default Framework descriptions
16:58 sekjal          like new sysprefs
16:58 jcamins         rangi's been looking at a way to do it more sensibly.
16:58 sekjal          libsysguy_class: some of the changes in updatedatabase.pl are just data, not structure
16:58 jcamins         Because having the schema in a file managed by git doesn't get the proper updates installed into the server.
16:57 jcamins         libsysguy_class: installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql, I think.
16:57 libsysguy_class so why mess with update_database.pl
16:57 libsysguy_class 0_0
16:57 jcamins         libsysguy_class: the schema is tracked in git.
16:57 libsysguy_class I have a random question.  For DB changes, why don't we just track the db schema in git?
16:37 rhcl            tnx
16:37 sekjal          rhcl:  absolutely
16:37 paul_p          time to leave. Could lower mails waiting for an answer to less than 100 (98 !) but still a lot of things to do...
16:36 magnus_afk      put it on the wiki!
16:36 rhcl            sekjal: can you flesh out your idea a bit and email it to me?
16:36 druthb          sekjal++
16:35 magnus_afk      yeah, that is a very cool idea!
16:35 jcamins         I was thinking of SOPAC. That's the Drupal one.
16:34 wizzyrea        that's a good one too
16:34 magnus_afk      sekjal++
16:34 sekjal          something that obscures all the commandline, Git processes behind a GUI
16:34 sekjal          rhcl:  creation of a downloadable Koha VM with a meta-tool that, once the system is installed, allows librarians to choose patches to test, and provides an easy mechanism for sign-offs
16:34 magnus_afk      jcamins: i looked over someone's shoulder at something that looked pretty far along
16:34 wizzyrea        but i'm nt as fast as you :)
16:34 wizzyrea        ^^ that's what I was thinking of
16:34 jcamins         Scriblio!
16:34 jcamins         Ooh, just found what I wanted, never mind.
16:33 magnus_afk      integration between koha and some cms based on sru and ils-di
16:33 jcamins         Oh, does xc do anything yet?
16:33 rhcl            anyway, I have some good php coding hours available, they're looking for 4-5 projects
16:32 magnus_afk      xc?
16:32 jcamins         wizzyrea: there's this really cool project with Drupal, where you can put your catalog records directly in Drupal, but I don't think there's anything for Wordpress.
16:32 wizzyrea        pretty sure someone's done this
16:32 wizzyrea        interface how?
16:32 wizzyrea        jcamins what are you thinking of?
16:32 jcamins         Interface between Koha and Wordpress, for the PHP.
16:32 rhcl            yea, I keep thinking that I'll get to it .... next month ... next month .... next month
16:31 wizzyrea        because there's not a whole lot of room for php/java in koha proper
16:31 wizzyrea        I think you really ought to get these guys going on that
16:31 wizzyrea        ^^ could go with the whole computer/print management thing
16:30 druthb          patron self-registration screen, with a syspref to allow the library to force a category on them so they know who did that.
16:30 wizzyrea        (certain fines, or overdues returned)
16:30 wizzyrea        undebar when fines are paid
16:29 rhcl            the one grad student needing a project is supposed to be pretty sharp w/ php
16:29 druthb          patron auto-promotion tool, to bulk-update patrons from Child types to Adult types, based on date-of-birth.
16:29 rhcl            anything related to koha or libraries? It would all be open-source of course. Mostly they are looking for level 2-3 php, but possibly also java.
16:28 rhcl            any other ideas?
16:28 wizzyrea        i like that too
16:28 rhcl            feedback on that project?
16:28 wizzyrea        and mostly funstuff.
16:28 wizzyrea        though that's a trivial one
16:28 wizzyrea        gamifying it, for example.
16:28 rhcl            On my back burner I've been really burning to look at a public access control system, possibly based on libki or jw's powerline
16:28 wizzyrea        ^^
16:28 jcamins         rhcl: are you sure? I bet rangi could think of a project on Koha that doesn't require any knowledge of libraries.
16:27 druthb          pity.
16:27 rhcl            Koha is a big beaste, and none of these people are librarians, so there's no way they could get spun up on a Koha dev project in any reasonable amount of time
16:26 rhcl            OK, so I'm working w/ the local university where I got my MAS. They need upper level programming projects and one MS level programming project.
16:25 rhcl            gmcharlt: et al: we can go off-line if necessary...
16:23 wahanui         niihau, gmcharlt
16:23 gmcharlt        rhcl: howdy
16:23 huginn          rhcl: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 3 days, 18 hours, 4 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> heading home, laters
16:23 rhcl            @seen gmcharlt
16:09 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6804] If IndependantBranches and AutoLocation enabled, OPAC login does not redirect properly outside IP range <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6804>
16:07 Oak             thanks...
16:06 Oak             got it.
16:06 Oak             oh yes!
16:06 Oak             aah
16:06 jcamins         Oak: it's a very colorful way of saying that things repeat in cycles.
16:05 indradg         hi folks
16:02 Oak             hmm, I don't understand this: " Time is a figure eight, at its center the city of Deja Vu. ~Robert Brault"
15:57 Oak             :-0
15:57 jcamins         In two hours, I'll have been logged into #koha for 50 days.
15:57 Oak             heh
15:57 wizzyrea        hee
15:57 jcamins         I'm logged on enough that I could be. ;)
15:57 jcamins         Nope.
15:57 Oak             kidding :)
15:56 jcamins         For people who are always logged in and idling, generally we'll see when people say our names when we get back to the computer.
15:56 Oak             are you a bot too jcamins ?
15:56 jcamins         That is correct.
15:56 Oak             so we cannot tell multiple persons something in one go?
15:55 Oak             okay cool, thank you jcamins
15:55 huginn          Oak: The operation succeeded.
15:55 Oak             @later tell druthb http://www.robertbrault.com/2011/08/woman-in-check-out-line.html
15:55 jcamins         However, druthb is logged in, so she should see that when she gets back.
15:55 huginn          Oak: The operation succeeded.
15:55 Oak             @later tell cait http://www.robertbrault.com/2011/08/woman-in-check-out-line.html
15:55 Oak             uh oh
15:55 jcamins         The latter.
15:54 Oak             work*
15:54 Oak             did that worked? or will cait get the message 'druthb' ?
15:54 huginn          Oak: The operation succeeded.
15:54 Oak             @later tell cait druthb http://www.robertbrault.com/2011/08/woman-in-check-out-line.html
15:51 huginn          Oak: The operation succeeded.
15:51 Oak             @later tell Brooke http://www.robertbrault.com/2011/08/woman-in-check-out-line.html
15:50 Oak             :)
15:50 Oak             kia ora rangi
15:50 Oak             heya Agent_Dani
15:49 oleonard        quit
15:49 * oleonard      quits early this week
15:49 Agent_Dani      Hi Oak
15:46 * Oak           waves
15:29 paul_p          meliameggs_, good morning to you. For me, it's no more the morning ( 5PM ;-) )
15:29 meliameggs_     good morning, paul_p!  I'll look for your mail now.
15:27 paul_p          hi meliameggs_ I just sent you a mail !
15:23 wizzyrea        whaddup
15:23 huginn          rhcl: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 46 minutes and 22 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> rangi++
15:23 rhcl            @seen wizzyrea
15:12 reiveune        bye
14:38 oleonard        It wasn't until the Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox betas started coming out that it changed.
14:37 oleonard        There was a time when IE6 was genuinely the best browser out there, after Netscape 4 bloated up.
14:37 wizzyrea        rangi++
14:36 jcamins         Oh, it did! Wow! Well, at least insofar as IE supported standards at all.
14:35 jcamins         IE4 probably didn't even support CSS, did it?
14:35 oleonard        I'm feeling that way about IE6 these days.
14:34 jcamins         oleonard: good. I figure if someone is using IE4, there's really no hope for them.
14:34 oleonard        wizzyrea: It's rangi's patch, I'm just testing.
14:34 * wizzyrea      did not try that particular permutation of variable names
14:33 wizzyrea        oleonard++ thanks for poking at that
14:33 oleonard        jcamins: I would never actually suggest you test IE4.
14:33 * wizzyrea      studies that patch closely
14:33 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6528 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cataloging search issues - Holdings not displayed in location column
14:33 oleonard        Wow, Bug 6528 was just a dumb variable name error.
14:33 jcamins         oleonard: I don't think I can test in IE4 with a Mac and a Windows 7 VM.
14:32 oleonard        What about IE4? Maybe it's an even-number thing.
14:28 jcamins         Apparently IE5.5 and IE7 do not like the latest jQuery. IE6 is perfectly fine with it.
14:27 kf              heh
14:13 jcamins         I mean, other than the fact that you're still using IE, which makes you sad.
14:13 jcamins         Add http:// at the beginning, and suddenly everything's copasetic.
14:13 jcamins         In IE, it flips out, and will not do anything.
14:12 jcamins         Works in Chrome, Firefox, and Safari.
14:12 jcamins         In this case, the URL was 192.168.56.101:4000
14:12 * wizzyrea      likes to be wrong about stuff like that. Enhances my righteous indignation at microsoft
14:12 jcamins         oleonard: well, don't know about Google.
14:12 oleonard        jcamins: You mean you put in "google.com" in IE and it tries to search?
14:12 jcamins         Nope. Works correctly in Chrome.
14:12 * wizzyrea      suspects that chrome would have the same stupidity
14:11 wizzyrea        it tries to search instead
14:11 jcamins         Right.
14:11 magnuse         jcamins: you have clearly been spoilt!
14:11 wizzyrea        you mean it doesn't prepend http:// if you're using a number?
14:10 jcamins         ie--
14:10 jcamins         s/Ive/I've/
14:10 jcamins         Ive gotten used to non-stupid browsers where you can enter a domain name and it will automatically load the page with HTTP.
14:10 oleonard        Uh-wha?
14:10 jcamins         IE doesn't use HTTP by default.
14:09 jcamins         I figured out the problem.
14:09 jcamins         oleonard: it didn't load at all.
14:09 oleonard        In what way does IE not show the site?
14:09 jcamins         This may be the dumbest problem ever.
14:09 jcamins         Wow.
14:08 * jcamins       disables all security features.
14:07 wizzyrea        in IE
14:07 wizzyrea        try putting the address for your site in your allowed security zone?
14:06 jcamins         Okay, the site works in FF on Windows.
14:06 jcamins         Sadly, that's not the problem.
14:04 jcamins         kf: ah, that's a good idea.
14:03 kf              ie I mean
14:03 kf              perhaps offline mode?
14:03 magnuse         what about tel.net?
14:02 jcamins         Telnet is no longer included with Windows?
14:01 jcamins         ?!?
14:01 wahanui         you are a travelin' woman.
14:01 druthb          wahanui: druthb?
14:01 jcamins         What do you mean "No internet access"? It's an unroutable VLAN. Of course it doesn't access the Internet. Just access the stupid site anyway.
14:00 magnuse         kf++
14:00 * kf            sends cookies
14:00 kf              oh
14:00 wizzyrea        some day wahanui is going to come back with that and we're all going to be amazed by his wisdom.
13:59 jcamins         ie-- # why won't you let me access my website? It's my own website.
13:59 wahanui         back in balance? that didn't work out so well for the jedi. has neutral karma
13:59 oleonard        karma back in balance? That didn't work out so well for the Jedi.
13:59 huginn          druthb: "rangi": 396, "oleonard": 320, "gmcharlt": 268, "wizzyrea": 218, "chris_n": 204, "nengard": 185, "cait": 156, "sekjal": 141, "druthb": 119, "paul_p": 111, "slef": 96, "jcamins": 94, "magnuse": 70, "kf": 69, "hdl_laptop": 60, "hdl": 56, "jwagner": 53, "atz": 44, "biblibre": 42, "thd": 42, "eythian": 39, "pianohacker": 39, "larsw": 37, "fredericd": 32, and "Colin": 27
13:59 druthb          @most increased
13:59 druthb          :P
13:59 huginn          wizzyrea: Karma for "oleonard" has been increased 320 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 315.
13:59 wizzyrea        @karma oleonard
13:59 huginn          druthb: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
13:59 druthb          druthb--
13:59 trea            o/ good morning kf :D
13:59 wizzyrea        or someone putitng the karma back in balance
13:58 druthb          Blame the youth.
13:58 wizzyrea        :)
13:58 wizzyrea        I bet it was pianohacker.
13:58 * oleonard      wonders what rangi and he did to get downvoted
13:58 kf              hi trea :)
13:58 druthb          lol
13:57 trea            ie--
13:57 trea            ha
13:57 druthb          IE is down 28...keep 'em coming.
13:57 huginn          druthb: "<!": 111, "failed": 67, "-": 40, "<-": 34, "ie": 28, "ptfs": 15, "--><!": 14, "liblime": 12, "src="<!": 11, "monday": 10, "C4::Search": 9, "-rw-r--r": 9, "zebra": 9, "windows": 8, "marc": 8, " is not a known MakeMaker parameter name. ": 6, "patron<!": 6, "jsp": 6, "me": 6, "^": 6, "jerks": 6, "rangi": 5, "oleonard": 5, "problem": 5, and "is": 5
13:57 druthb          @most decreased
13:57 magnuse         ie--
13:57 druthb          ie--
13:57 kf              ie--
13:57 jcamins         ie--
13:56 jcamins         windows--
13:56 druthb          Full-timers also tend to join Escapees, but I've not done that yet.  Buncha cranky old coots, and not that many parks give discounts.
13:54 druthb          It's helpful to get a deck of memberships.  KOA Value-Kard ($24), Good Sam ($20, if you register at a park, rather than online), Happy Campers ($30, I think), AAA, etc.
13:53 * Agent_Dani    is cribbing notes for her hopeful future cross-country motorcycle ride.
13:53 druthb          $22.50 a night, for a commercial campground with wi-fi and wicked-hot showers?  What's not to like.
13:53 Agent_Dani      hehe
13:53 magnuse         wow, living the simple life sounds complicated ;-)
13:53 druthb          we normally choose KOA--I'm on the value-card program, and get 10% off.  But I was pleased to discover that this part is also a Good Sam park, so I got 10% off for *that.*  :D
13:52 jcamins         Ah. I see.
13:52 druthb          I'm not at the unpowered KOA..  :)  I'm at the Jellystone park, where the tent sites *do* have power.
13:52 jcamins         druthb: if there's no power, how are you working?
13:50 druthb          The reviews for Jellystone parks tend to have lots of grumpy oldsters complaining about the kids.  I just wanna tell 'em, fine, go to KOA.  The one here in Sioux Falls is very big-rig friendly--no tent sites with power....  Jellystone markets families with small kids *really* hard.
13:49 jcamins         Woohoo! It works!
13:48 druthb          www.jellystonesiouxfalls.com
13:48 druthb          the same.  :)
13:48 kf              yogi the bear?
13:47 druthb          this site is larger--and flatter--than our site in Indy.  Not very shady; the trees are still a little young.
13:46 druthb          this is a classy camp, though--When we checked in, a kid in a golf cart escorted us to our site, showed us its' boundaries, and asked if he could fetch anything for us.
13:46 wizzyrea        lol wow
13:46 druthb          Apparently, they make the rounds about 1800, of newly-filled sites.
13:45 druthb          Was funny watching Lindsey's reaction...the guy pulls up in a golf cart, with Yogi as a passenger, and he says, "Yogi likes to come around a visit new guests to the camp!"
13:45 wizzyrea        hi and by... oh bother
13:45 wizzyrea        huh. http://screencast.com/t/aR1WCzPiF
13:45 nengard         okay time to log off and train :)
13:44 druthb          :)
13:44 Agent_Dani      druthb: Yogi sure gets around...he was at DBAP this weekend. ;)
13:44 druthb          :D  hi, tcohen!
13:44 * tcohen        waves at druthb
13:43 druthb          good morning!  *wave*
13:43 * magnuse       waves too
13:43 magnuse         nengard: woohoo ;-)
13:42 * oleonard      waves to new Koha library in training
13:42 nengard         good morning #koha - I am with a new Koha library we're on day one of training
13:41 jcamins         I only need very simple menus. But they need to be _above_ the main body of the text, and z-index doesn't appear to do anything for me.
13:40 oleonard        For all my hate of YUI, I do like their menus--even though they're a pain to set up.
13:40 jcamins         oleonard: alas. I've decided to redo my website, and I'm having issues with the dropdown menus.
13:40 oleonard        jcamins: There is a jqueryUI native menu widget in development
13:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5481 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Replace YUI JS libraries with Jquery UI
13:39 oleonard        jcamins: No, in fact that's what I've been waiting for in order to complete Bug 5481
13:39 Agent_Dani      jcamins: I imagine so...similar to coastal NC.
13:39 jcamins         oleonard: do you have a jQuery plugin you like for dropdown menus?
13:35 jcamins         Agent_Dani: I hear in parts of NJ the power's going to be out for days, if not weeks.
13:35 magnuse         oleonard: i was just waiting for that...
13:35 Agent_Dani      I didn't lose power but a bunch of people near where I live did; can't image how it was any distance east of me.
13:35 oleonard        Yes, now the TV news blame game starts: Why did we prepare so well?! What a waste of time!!
13:35 jcamins         Yeah, we were, too.
13:35 * Agent_Dani    agrees
13:34 * magnuse       too
13:34 * wizzyrea      is glad
13:34 jcamins         It was a bit anticlimactic.
13:34 wizzyrea        I see you managed to not get blown away
13:34 libsysguy       morning jcamins
13:33 libsysguy       yeah I understand...its weird mine at 70 gets around 45 but around 120 gets 60
13:33 druthb          hi, jcamins.  :)
13:33 trea            morning jcamins
13:33 jcamins         Good morning, #koha
13:33 Agent_Dani      The one thing I miss about that CB750 was the fuel economy. Doing 70MPH on the interstate and not doing worse than 50MPG.
13:32 Agent_Dani      I believe it.
13:32 Agent_Dani      libsysguy: FYI, I'm looking for an EN-6f (or EN-6n) to use as a commuter and the like. The Voyager is great for distance, but...
13:32 libsysguy       I've done 300 on that thing and I thought I was going to die
13:31 oleonard        Anyone else getting XISBN errors in their OPAC error log?
13:26 Agent_Dani      libsysguy: I do believe that would be a bit more difficult...proabably more than when I did 500 straight on a Nighthawk 750 (CB750.)
13:26 paul_p          and yes, there's another "paul" that just signs "paul", it's not me, my signature is always Paul Poulain or paul_p
13:25 paul_p          libsysguy, we have a SSD server for our migrations, but it's not me that talked about it recently iirc
13:25 paul_p          magnuse, i've been known to dance (the aka), but not to sing (at least in Koha world ;-) )
13:24 druthb          But Lindsey was *mortified* when Yogi Bear came to visit our campsite.
13:24 * druthb        is staying at a new campground chain for her, this week..    It's...uhm...targeted at families with smaller kids, but the price is right, and it has more trees here than the rest of SD that I've seen...
13:24 wizzyrea        *nod*
13:23 magnuse         next time, wizzyrea!
13:23 wizzyrea        ooo there are pictures
13:23 * wizzyrea      is sad to have not seen it
13:23 * magnuse       has the pictures to prove it!
13:23 * druthb        pictures libsysguy tearing around the piney woods of east TX on his CBR.
13:23 wizzyrea        a haka, no less :)
13:23 wizzyrea        hi druthb!
13:23 magnuse         but paul_p has been known to sing and dance...
13:23 wizzyrea        (no, seriously, he signs his mail like that)
13:23 libsysguy       hehe
13:23 druthb          wizzyrea!     *grins*
13:22 wizzyrea        ^^
13:22 druthb          too much fast motorcycling addles the brain, libsysguy.
13:22 wizzyrea        because that's definitely not our paul_p
13:22 wizzyrea        you mean paul, the tired old sysadmin?
13:22 * libsysguy     smiles sheepishly
13:22 libsysguy       oh yeah...i guess i just assumed it was our paul_p
13:22 magnuse         could have been another paul. especially if it was in the last couple of weeks...
13:20 libsysguy       is that you that posted to the devel list about a machine with an SSD?
13:20 paul_p          ???
13:20 libsysguy       hey paul_p I was just going to ask you about your singing and dancing machine
13:19 paul_p          libsysguy, i'm here now. back from meeting
13:17 trea            kia ora magnuse
13:17 trea            good morning koha
13:17 magnuse         kia ora trea
13:17 wizzyrea        mornin trea
13:14 libsysguy       its a little harder for me to put in a lot of miles
13:14 libsysguy       http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Gallery%20B/Honda%20CBR%201000RR%20Rrepsol%2009.jpg
13:14 Agent_Dani      libsysguy: I've had that Voyager a bit over a year and have averaged 1k miles a month.
13:14 Agent_Dani      When the AC checked out soon after we got it my father refused to get it fixed...
13:13 libsysguy       oleonard: I think you got owned
13:13 Agent_Dani      I remember that with the C30 we had on the farm.
13:13 * Agent_Dani    snerks
13:13 oleonard        I complained to my wife that my AC only worked when the car was moving. She said, Honey, that's called a window.
13:12 Agent_Dani      druthb: Hopefully it's a once and done repair for that...
13:12 druthb          nope.  I *think* it's just low refrigerant, because it is cooling a little when you turn it on.
13:12 Agent_Dani      Yep.
13:12 libsysguy       aww did you get it fixed yet druthb
13:12 libsysguy       ohh see you get to ride in comfort lol
13:12 Agent_Dani      druthb: In fairness, we didn't realize we'd have no AC when we set out from PA that day...
13:11 Agent_Dani      libsysguy: http://whitrel.com/VaPBaC.jpg
13:11 Agent_Dani      No AC on the bike, either, but I get a great breeze.
13:11 druthb          Pittsburgh -> Indianapolis the week before...that was fierce.
13:11 libsysguy       Agent_Dani what do you ride...just curious
13:10 * Agent_Dani    nods
13:10 druthb          we don't have any AC in our truck, either, but it wasn't bad this weekend.
13:10 Agent_Dani      386?! I've done that in a single day on two wheels! :)
13:10 druthb          that is pretty hard-core, yeah.
13:10 libsysguy       druthb: this is for you http://instantboss.org/
13:09 * Agent_Dani    figured 750 in August, in a Camaro with no AC, and in the South was pretty hard core.
13:09 druthb          Next weekend is easy-peasy...three day weekend, and only 386 miles to drive.  Relaxin'.
13:09 Agent_Dani      druthb: Okay, you have me beat.
13:09 libsysguy       gives druthb a boss badge
13:08 libsysguy       wow
13:08 druthb          (which is what we did this weekend.)
13:08 druthb          no, like driving 800 miles as fast as you can on a weekend, whilst doing a go-live.
13:08 libsysguy       ohh sprints...like with agile methodology
13:08 druthb          lol
13:08 libsysguy       lol
13:08 libsysguy       for some reason druthb i keep typing librarygeekgurl.net
13:07 druthb          I think the calendar is up through the middle of October at this point.  We're on one-week sprints, due to some appointments I have here and there.
13:07 magnuse         ah, but does she tell the truth, i wonder?
13:06 magnuse         they seek her here, they seek her there...
13:06 oleonard        See, it's not much of a game if she tells.
13:06 magnuse         now you see her, now you don't
13:06 druthb          There's a calendar up on my blog, but I'm in Sioux Falls this week.
13:06 druthb          hee hee.
13:06 libsysguy       so I hear that we are going to have to start playing where in the world is druthb
13:04 libsysguy       if(alive_analogue >0) alive = true;
13:04 Agent_Dani      Memorex?
13:04 druthb          For some value of "alive", yes.  :)
13:04 libsysguy       omg druthb you are alive!!!
13:03 druthb          hi, libsysguy!
13:03 libsysguy       paul_p: you around?
13:00 Agent_Dani      /o\
13:00 druthb          Hi, oleonard! :)
12:59 oleonard        <o>
12:56 druthb          \o/
12:56 Agent_Dani      \o
12:56 magnuse         \o
12:55 druthb          o/
12:33 oleonard        Happy Monday #koha
12:00 kf              ah
11:57 Brooke          "The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver."
11:55 Brooke          it's still can't write to public. It displays the categories now, but it won't respect that I check one.
11:55 kf              and waht is your error message?
11:55 Brooke          the upload page has been tossing errors since feb
11:55 Brooke          it's an accepted format
11:55 Brooke          jpg
11:55 kf              ?
11:55 kf              Brooke: waht format is your image
11:54 * Brooke        still can't upload an image to the bloody wiki.
11:54 Brooke          pfft
11:52 Brooke          0/
11:34 Agent_Dani      \o
11:18 Brooke          0/
11:06 * magnuse       wanders off to find lunch
11:04 Brooke          Oh, Cubbies, ye're even further back than my Mets. *sigh* At least Boston is leading the Evil Empire...
11:02 Brooke          http://www.celticlyricscorner.net/cherish/freeborn.htm
11:02 Brooke          "And I've cursed the life when winter days were dawning"
11:02 magnuse         :-)
11:01 druthb          See, I'd like that.  I have a completely open roof with a thin sheet of nylon fabric over it about that far over my head.
11:01 * Brooke        covers her mouth with her hand.
11:01 * kf            hides
11:01 kf              13 sounds quite nice
11:00 magnuse         i have a slightly open window 50cm from where i'm sitting
11:00 druthb          she's picking on me, magnuse, because I *am* cold.  much cooler here than in indianapolis last week.
11:00 magnuse         hehe
11:00 wahanui         i already had it that way, huginn.
11:00 huginn          druthb: The current temperature in Sioux Falls, South Dakota is 13.0�C (4:56 AM CDT on August 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
11:00 druthb          @wunder sioux falls, sd
11:00 * druthb        shivers.
11:00 * Brooke        titters.
10:59 magnuse         Brooke: nah, quite pleasant for the end of august
10:58 Brooke          would you say it's cold in Bodo, Magnus?
10:57 * Brooke        sings Jose, Jose, Jose, Jose...
10:57 Brooke          Yes! We get Jose back!  http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110827&content_id=23846464&vkey=news_nym&c_id=nym
10:56 huginn          kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 20.0�C (12:53 PM CEST on August 29, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Falling).
10:56 kf              @wunder Konstanz
10:55 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0�C (12:20 PM CEST on August 29, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Steady).
10:55 Brooke          hey magnus
10:55 druthb          hi, magnuse!
10:55 magnuse         @wunder boo
10:55 magnuse         o/
10:55 druthb          Silly Brooke!  *hug*
10:55 druthb          :P
10:55 Brooke          How about those Mets?
10:54 druthb          :P
10:54 * Brooke        looks at the floor.
10:54 druthb          Had to get up in the middle of the night and get out the extra blanket.  Mite chilly here, when you're laying still.
10:53 druthb          :P
10:53 Brooke          nuffin'. Certain little lady has no idea what actual chill is in her neighbourhood, is all. *duck*
10:52 kf1             what was this?
10:52 kf1             hm
10:52 Brooke          ha! you think that's cold that way XD
10:49 * druthb        digs out her cloak
10:47 druthb          frickin' COLD.
10:47 Brooke          storms a rollin' in
10:47 druthb          uh-huh.  this explains *much*, it does.
10:46 huginn          druthb: The current temperature in Sioux Falls, South Dakota is 13.0�C (4:56 AM CDT on August 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
10:46 druthb          @wunder sioux falls, sd
10:46 Brooke          mornin' miss.
10:46 druthb          g'morning!
10:46 Brooke          0/
10:19 magnuse         algent: wahanui is a bot, truing to be friendly... ;-)
10:18 algent          where are you from?
10:18 wahanui         que tal, algent
10:18 algent          hello
09:27 marcelr         i'll see what i can do
09:26 rangi           pull request is better, for a big patch like that
09:26 kf              or pull request
09:26 kf              that's what I did in the past
09:26 kf              send it as attachement :(
09:25 marcelr         does anyone know how to resolve this error from git send-email: fatal: 6803-mods-xsl-v35.patch: 2536: patch contains a line longer than 998 characters
09:24 kf              hi marcelr :)
09:24 rangi           hi marcelr
09:24 marcelr         hi koha
09:19 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6803] Removing remote include in MODS xslt <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6803>
09:19 rangi           paul_p: http://www.appbrain.com/app/rugbyheaven-rwc-2011/nz.co.stuff.rwc
09:13 rangi           yep
09:13 * magnuse       hopes rangi has a script or something for that ;-)
09:13 rangi           everything on this list, (which is what is in master at the mo) ill go close
09:13 kf              :)
09:12 rangi           http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/posts/Work_for_3.6.x/
09:12 magnuse         yay
09:12 rangi           ill go closing when i do the 3.6.0 release
09:12 magnuse         ah, i'm getting the words mixed up... ;-) thanks
09:12 rangi           we dont close bugs much, just mark them resolved
09:10 rangi           try resolved - fixed
09:10 magnuse         is there a trick to find recently closed bugs? i tried "Status" changed to "CLOSED" under "Search By Change History" but got no hits?
09:09 rangi           cool
09:09 magnuse         i reactivated on twitterfeed.com, so we can see what happens
09:02 rangi           ive wound down max clients too, so it shouldnt happen again
09:02 rangi           happy enough at the moment
08:58 magnuse         i have deactivated the feeds on twitterfeed.com, see if that helps
08:58 rangi           happy enough at the moment
08:58 rangi           ill keep an eye on it
08:56 magnuse         HEAD requests? hm
08:55 rangi           lots of that
08:55 rangi           184.72.46.206 - - [28/Aug/2011:19:56:34 +0000] "HEAD /bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6716 HTTP/1.1" 200 295 "-" "UnwindFetchor/1.0 (+http://www.gnip.com/)"
08:55 rangi           0.18.121.47 - - [28/Aug/2011:19:56:34 +0000] "HEAD /bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6716 HTTP/1.1" 200 295 "-" "UnwindFetchor/1.0 (+http://www.gnip.com/)"
08:55 rangi           started about 1 hour ago
08:54 rangi           hmm
08:54 magnuse         unless twitterfeed uses gnip in the background...
08:53 magnuse         rangi: nope, twitterfeed.com
08:53 rangi           magnuse: were you using http://gnip.com/ ?
08:52 rangi           back
08:50 kf              :)
08:50 paul_p          yep ;-)
08:50 kf              paul_p: busy first day!
08:50 rangi           ah no, thats the wiki
08:49 rangi           hmmm i think gmcharlt
08:48 paul_p          and in 10mn a meeting with someone applying to be hired as librarian project manager
08:48 paul_p          kf, yep, reading emails...
08:46 magnuse         yikes
08:45 rangi           ill find out when i can get back on the console :)
08:45 magnuse         i'll delete them if they are causing trouble
08:45 magnuse         2 or 3 even
08:45 magnuse         rangi: hope not - i have been telling twitterfeed about some feeds, but limited to last 3 or 4 days
08:44 * kf            goes bakc to reading mails
08:44 kf              does this make any sense? probably not
08:43 * kf            imagines rangi riding a gigantic bug...
08:42 rangi           soon as i get it under control ill lcheck the logs and find out
08:41 kf              nah, probably still reading mails :)
08:41 kf              paul_p: working on your rfcs?
08:41 rangi           not you magnuse ?
08:41 rangi           hmm something is trying to show tons of bugs at once
08:40 kf              hm
08:39 rangi           someone/something is working it hard
08:39 rangi           its swapping
08:38 rangi           ill look
08:38 kf              same here it seems
08:38 kf              hm
08:35 magnuse         hm, no response from http://bugs.koha-community.org/ ?
08:23 * magnuse       does that sometimes too...
08:22 kf              for now I am going to mark them 'read' *ducks*
08:22 magnuse         filters++
08:22 kf              hm, perhaps next time
08:22 rangi           i have filters, that filter them into 'signed off' 'needs signoff' etc
08:21 kf              I was only away for less than 5 days
08:21 rangi           heh
08:21 kf              ugh!
08:21 kf              330 mails from koha-bugs...
08:19 rangi           yup
08:19 magnuse         and it's in nz, right?
08:17 rangi           nz vs tonga, first game on the 9/9
08:16 magnuse         ah yes
08:16 rangi           good to get a reality check
08:16 rangi           because world cup starts in just over a week
08:15 magnuse         huh?
08:15 rangi           not well, 25-20 to australia, but probably good in the long run
08:15 magnuse         rangi: how did the match against Oz go?
08:14 rangi           yup
08:14 paul_p          rangi, french players in the plane heading to NZ at this time...
08:14 rangi           yuck
08:14 paul_p          rangi, yep. except a small problem with the car when driving back, that made us arrive at home at 1:30 AM ...
08:14 magnuse         time flies when you're having fun! ;-)
08:13 kf              hi paul_p - already back from your vacation?
08:13 paul_p          back from vacation. Lot of mails to deal with... will probably spend the day on reading/answering all of them
08:13 rangi           hi paul_p, good holiday?
08:13 paul_p          hello magnus & al
08:12 magnuse         kia ora paul_p
08:10 magnuse         thanks
08:10 magnuse         and add #kohails, of course
08:10 rangi           good idea
08:10 kf              magnuse++
08:10 magnuse         the idea is to turn it on for gbsd
08:10 rangi           cool
08:10 kf              :)
08:10 magnuse         i'm playing with twitter and twitterfeed.com to create a stream of bugs that have changed status: http://twitter.com/#!/KohaGBSD
08:08 magnuse         hopefully the approaching deadlines for 3.6 should give some encouragement
08:08 kf              some more hands on those were good
08:07 rangi           yeah they have been building up over the last 3 weeks
08:07 kf              yes, we need to sqash them
08:07 magnuse         i will send out a reminder about gbsd shortly
08:07 magnuse         way too many!
08:05 rangi           yep 88
08:01 kf              lots of things to do yes :)
08:01 wahanui         next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2011-09-02_Global_bug_squashing_day
08:01 magnuse         next gbsd?
08:00 magnuse         we have our work cut out for us on friday - next gbsd?
08:00 kf              bonjour sophie_m
07:58 rangi           ahh
07:57 kf              yep
07:57 kf              your patches are on top of my pile of mails
07:57 wahanui         i heard fixing bugs was the best way to do that
07:57 rangi           oh fixing bugs?
07:56 rangi           ?
07:56 kf              you have been busy!
07:56 kf              hi rangi :)
07:56 rangi           hi kf
07:55 kf              hiya magnuse :)
07:55 magnuse         hiya kf
07:55 kf              hi #koha
07:47 reiveune        re
07:46 magnuse         morning
07:44 rangi           evening
07:34 * magnuse       ponders setting up a twitter account for GBSD
07:25 magnuse         eythian++
07:08 sophie_m        hi #koha
07:06 eythian         s/uploading/uploaded/
07:05 eythian         new packages uploading
06:50 * magnuse       is off to look at eythians man page patch
06:42 eythian         hi :)
06:41 magnuse         ...and kia ora, #koha
06:41 magnuse         for me, away = logged off, afk = logged on but not necessarily at the keyboard (but i might drop by from time to time)
06:40 eythian         what's the difference between away and afk?
06:39 huginn          Amit_Gupta: Amit_Gupta was last seen in #koha 16 seconds ago: <Amit_Gupta> @seen kmkale
06:39 Amit_Gupta      @seen Amit_Gupta
06:39 huginn          Amit_Gupta: kmkale was last seen in #koha 1 week, 2 days, 22 hours, 50 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <kmkale> Namaskar #koha
06:39 Amit_Gupta      @seen kmkale
06:37 wahanui         niihau, reiveune
06:37 reiveune        hello
06:24 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6724] Holds Ratio does not allow decimals <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6724>
06:16 alex_a          bonjour cait :)
06:11 cait            hi alex_a :)
06:10 alex_a          hi #koha !
06:09 cait            good morning #koha
05:33 * Oak           waves
05:25 BobB            Thx, I wanted an update on KohaCon.  I'll email him.
05:23 mtj             9 days ago...
05:22 eythian         that looks like a no :)
05:22 huginn          mtj: kmkale was last seen in #koha 1 week, 2 days, 21 hours, 33 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <kmkale> Namaskar #koha
05:22 mtj             @seen kmkale
05:20 BobB            Has kmkale been in this channel recently?
05:15 mtj             heya francharb
05:15 francharb       morning everyone
04:56 eythian         Has anyone found the translations putting spurious commas all throughout the OPAC in 3.4.4?
04:51 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6704] merging records cuts off fields at quotation marks <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6704>
04:21 ketchup         ketchup goes to sleep
03:54 eythian         http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/5521175/Hurricane-Irene-just-like-Wellington <-- haha
03:41 rangi           hi Amit_Gupta
03:39 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6656] Default sort preferences ignored on advanced search <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6656>
03:32 Amit_Gupta      good morning ;)
03:32 Amit_Gupta      heya chris
02:55 BobB            Hi Mason!
02:54 BobB            Alright, well that's another suggestion I can make.
02:54 mtj             heya folks :)
02:53 mtj             ...  if your client was running dynix (of course)
02:53 mtj             yeah, dont use dynix for the export, just query the universe db instead , etc
02:53 rangi           in the ones not being exported
02:53 rangi           youd have to try and find a pattern
02:53 rangi           if you cant get that
02:53 BobB            So I'll ask if he has DB access - good thought
02:52 rangi           i dont know with alice, but yeah, there are tons of reasons why it might not export all the records
02:52 rangi           usually they are running on top of some database system, and you just query it
02:52 rangi           nope
02:51 BobB            or cooperation at least?
02:51 BobB            But then they need vendor assistance?
02:51 rangi           well, most proprietary systems are crap, so getting it from the db itself under the hood is usually how our clients end up getting stuff out
02:51 BobB            I have never seen the Alice interface.
02:50 BobB            They are using a menu option, afaik
02:50 BobB            mtj suggested maybe bad characters.  I can't think why else they wouldn't find all their records.
02:49 rangi           how are they getting it out? using the system or the underlying db?
02:49 BobB            All true.  :)
02:49 rangi           1/ we dont have the license to use the software,  2/ i dont want to know how they work
02:48 BobB            A client has exported a file but not all the records are in it.  Maybe 10% are missing.
02:48 rangi           we get the clients to do them
02:48 rangi           hmm we dont do exports
02:48 BobB            Have you ever experienced problems exporting data from Alice?
02:48 rangi           heya
02:48 BobB            Hi there.
02:47 rangi           yup
02:47 BobB            Hi rangi, are you about?
02:17 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6528] Cataloging search issues - Holdings not displayed in location column <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6528>
01:48 Brooke          night
01:48 * druthb        stumbles out the door, and heads for bed.
01:46 Brooke          :)
01:46 Agent_Dani      Nice technicality!
01:45 Brooke          another biggy is that it should only have 2 doors. The Prius still fits since it's got 2 doors per engine. >.> <.<
01:45 Agent_Dani      With you there.
01:45 Agent_Dani      heh
01:45 Brooke          not such a great rule any more XD
01:44 Brooke          my main rule to buying cars is that unless it's listed as classic, it mustn't be older than me
01:44 Brooke          heh
01:43 Agent_Dani      I learned to drive on that truck...it was 20 by the time I was and already on its third bed.
01:42 Brooke          long time ago then
01:42 Brooke          I think mahn were in the normal place on the esprit
01:42 Brooke          a yep
01:42 Agent_Dani      The floorboard rusted away enough that I went to press it one time and pushed it through the floor.
01:41 Agent_Dani      Ah, yes, dimmer switches on the floor...I remember that in the '71 F250 we had on the farm. I also remember when it became inoperable. :)
01:38 Brooke          with friend like OCR, who needs enemies?
01:38 Brooke          http://www.archive.org/stream/newzealandoffic12deptgoog/newzealandoffic12deptgoog_djvu.txt
01:37 Brooke          it was clearly a plot.
01:36 Brooke          in Albany
01:36 Brooke          in the winter
01:36 Brooke          with no heat
01:36 Brooke          the little mister had a 82 prelude
01:36 Brooke          yeee haw!
01:36 Brooke          couldn't find em
01:36 Brooke          and they put the freggin switch for the brights on the floor during the same model runs
01:36 Agent_Dani      The real fun was driving that from PA to SC...in August, with no AC.
01:36 Brooke          borrowed one of those
01:36 Brooke          omg
01:36 * Agent_Dani    had a Camaro at one point...
01:35 Agent_Dani      hehe
01:35 Brooke          yeah, that's the ticket ;)
01:35 Brooke          more mpg
01:35 Brooke          but uh
01:35 Brooke          Ethan's 77 Trans Am was a bigger chick magnet than my 79 Esprit
01:35 Brooke          indeed!!
01:35 Agent_Dani      Grim Rides rock
01:35 Agent_Dani      >.<
01:34 Brooke          but thought that chicks wouldn't dig it
01:34 Brooke          since he was gonna buy one
01:34 Brooke          he was crestfallen when I told him I would have preferred a hearse.
01:34 Brooke          meh close
01:34 Agent_Dani      This was a '59 Buick Electra.
01:34 Brooke          naught has been a land boat ever since.
01:34 * Brooke        dated a chap a loooooong time ago that had a 70s LTD
01:33 Agent_Dani      There's a small part of me wishes I'd been able to keep the land yacht when we moved, but that wasn't in the cards.
01:32 Brooke          where's the 53? Can't find it...
01:32 Agent_Dani      Some frozen crap that fell from the sky a couple times this year. Haven't figured that out; I was told it doesn't happen in the Triangle. ;)
01:32 Brooke          what's that white stuff on it's roof?
01:31 Agent_Dani      $SO is looking for daisy decals to paste on it - she has named it Daisy.
01:31 Brooke          could be pink with daisies or jello with bubbles
01:31 Agent_Dani      No doubt.
01:31 Brooke          could be more embarassing
01:31 Brooke          meeeeh
01:31 Agent_Dani      I think I already have that label.
01:30 Agent_Dani      http://whitrel.com/not-a-bug.jpg
01:30 Brooke          <Warning, doing so might permalabel you as femme.>
01:30 Brooke          chick car? Do tell.
01:29 druthb          Mine's a 1992 K2500 (3/4 ton, 350 engine.)
01:29 Agent_Dani      These days I have the chick car with a vanity tag that makes computer geeks chuckle.
01:28 Agent_Dani      I got it for $0 so I wasn't complaining too much.
01:28 druthb          Yes, this truck is a stinkin' chevy.
01:28 druthb          don' feel bad...druthb wasn't able to fix that wreck up, either.
01:28 Brooke          this is a stinking chevy, too, I think
01:27 Brooke          the truck was CYA for Brooke being unable to fix the rv
01:27 * Agent_Dani    had a truck at one point...a 1-ton Chevy with a 454. It never met a gas station it didn't like.
01:27 * Brooke        still wants photographic evidence of Chariot Racing in Horowhenua.
01:27 Agent_Dani      What's the purpose of the truck?
01:27 Brooke          if it were actually a chariot, I'd agree :P
01:26 druthb          kid did some of it...still a long day in the chariot.
01:26 Brooke          pffft, wouldn't be bitchin' if ye had a driver :P
01:25 Brooke          step three: Profit.
01:25 druthb          I like that part, mostly.   After this fall, we're gonna try to find places we can stay for 2-3 weeks at a time, then move shorter distances...  this 800 mile thing is for the birds.
01:25 Brooke          step two: buy truck
01:25 Brooke          step one: Get jorb at ByWater or other friendly place
01:24 Agent_Dani      :)
01:24 Agent_Dani      I still envy your telecommuting.
01:21 druthb          I spent most of my Indiana time at larryb's place.  Nice having coworkers here and there.
01:19 Brooke          BUT it was just alleged.
01:19 Brooke          alternatively, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lizzie_Borden
01:19 Brooke          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HH_Holmes
01:18 Agent_Dani      I thought that was Pennsyltucky.
01:18 Brooke          good boy.
01:17 wahanui         somebody said Michigan was if you want my son to be an axe murderer, send them there.
01:17 Brooke          Michigan?
01:17 wahanui         OK, Brooke.
01:17 Brooke          wahanui Michigan is if you want your son to be an axe murderer, send them there.
01:17 Brooke          feh, this bot ain't been to the sweet corn states.
01:17 wahanui         brooke: bugger all, i dunno
01:17 Brooke          wahanui Michigan?
01:17 Brooke          Michigan?
01:16 wahanui         Indiana is the sole purpose of that godsforsaken land is to keep the cooties from Michigan offa Illinois.
01:16 Brooke          Indiana?
01:16 wahanui         OK, Brooke.
01:16 Brooke          wahanui Indiana is the sole purpose of that godsforsaken land is to keep the cooties from Michigan offa Illinois.
01:15 * Brooke        gasps.
01:15 wahanui         brooke: i haven't a clue
01:15 Brooke          wahanui indiana?
01:15 Brooke          how was cootie ridden Indiana?
01:14 Brooke          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skins_(2002_film)
01:13 druthb          :)
01:13 Brooke          give Washington a Bloody Nose if you get out that way.
01:12 * druthb        has been a travelin' chica.  Last week, Indianapolis, and now we're in Sioux Falls.
01:12 Brooke          what's shakin, bacon>?
01:12 Brooke          0/
01:11 druthb          hi, Brooke!
01:11 Brooke          kia ora
01:07 * Agent_Dani    just got home from the Durham Bulls game.
01:06 Agent_Dani      \o
00:42 druthb          o/
00:33 bencahill       :)
00:32 rangi           no worries glad its working out for you
00:32 bencahill       rangi: hey, thanks for all your help the other day...koha is awesome :)